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You know what, not everyone can singletap like you. I happen to be one of those players who alternates EVERYTHING because it helps me keep the damn beat of the map I am playing a hell of a lot better than single tapping. not only that, but I happen to play on a laptop and I play the game just fine.Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
Lmao... Cool story bro, keyboard smashing doesn't count as playing good.VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
You know what, not everyone can singletap like you. I happen to be one of those players who alternates EVERYTHING because it helps me keep the damn beat of the map I am playing a hell of a lot better than single tapping. not only that, but I happen to play on a laptop and I play the game just fine.Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
And oh, btw, nice copy, flip and paste avatar you got there, like I haven't seen that before.
no need to get serious bruvVIDgamefrk9 wrote:
You are just trying to get an emotional response out of me. Nice try, but I play using tablet, and I don't smash my keyboard. you have probably broke keys using your "singletapping". Please be respectful as everyone plays the game their own way. If you don't like my playstyle, then complain about it on an offtopic thread please. I do not come on the forums to be trolled and I wish for none of this treatment
That isn't true at all. Alternating actually increases your overall streaming stamina in comparison to single tapping everything, as a single tapper won't be as used to using their alternate finger.Soarezi wrote:
Alternating everything affects the later game, your stamina will become incredibly horrible, you can't stream for long and you cannot compete with the end game anymore.
That isn't true at all for normal play. Alternating can still be viable... I'm not completely anti... but your "alternating finger" for a single-tapper does not get used often except for streams. Full alternating does not require good stamina, because neither finger is used full-time at all. Full-alternating does not have high stamina requirements.Tasha wrote:
That isn't true at all. Alternating actually increases your overall streaming stamina in comparison to single tapping everything, as a single tapper won't be as used to using their alternate finger.
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
You know what, not everyone can singletap like you. I happen to be one of those players who alternates EVERYTHING because it helps me keep the damn beat of the map I am playing a hell of a lot better than single tapping. not only that, but I happen to play on a laptop and I play the game just fine.Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
And oh, btw, nice copy, flip and paste avatar you got there, like I haven't seen that before.
judging people by their written statsWolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
Excuse me for having a <99% accuracy because I am not a machine. I just got a tablet and I am getting used to it. Please understand that not everyone can be like Cookiezi and get SS on practically everything. Keep in mind that I don't play every day, so my accuracy may not be the best.WolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
Rock on. I alternate by preference on everything.VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
You know what, not everyone can singletap like you. I happen to be one of those players who alternates EVERYTHING because it helps me keep the damn beat of the map I am playing a hell of a lot better than single tapping. not only that, but I happen to play on a laptop and I play the game just fine.Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
And oh, btw, nice copy, flip and paste avatar you got there, like I haven't seen that before.
Nice 20k rank you have there, buddy.WolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
can you show me the studies that prove this?Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
silmarilen wrote:
can you show me the studies that prove this?Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
silmarilen wrote:
can you show me the studies that prove this?Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
Excuse me for having a <99% accuracy because I am not a machine. I just got a tablet and I am getting used to it. Please understand that not everyone can be like Cookiezi and get SS on practically everything. Keep in mind that I don't play every day, so my accuracy may not be the best.WolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
WolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
Soarezi wrote:
I haven't seen a single person that alternates, that can stream 260bpm+- and can keep up with freedom dive streams as in stamina.
Then again we're talking about standard, not taiko.
VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
You are just trying to get an emotional response out of me. Nice try, but I play using tablet, and I don't smash my keyboard. you have probably broke keys using your "singletapping". Please be respectful as everyone plays the game their own way. If you don't like my playstyle, then complain about it on an offtopic thread please. I do not come on the forums to be trolled and I wish for none of this treatment
GoldenWolf wrote:
VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
You know what, not everyone can singletap like you. I happen to be one of those players who alternates EVERYTHING because it helps me keep the damn beat of the map I am playing a hell of a lot better than single tapping. not only that, but I happen to play on a laptop and I play the game just fine.Soarezi wrote:
i have no c lue what you're on about. all im saying is alternating makes you worse and it does. scientifically and mathematically calculated.
And oh, btw, nice copy, flip and paste avatar you got there, like I haven't seen that before.
Everyone is bound to make a thread like that at some point.Me168 wrote:
I love how I tried to make an Innocent post asking for Playing Advice for a Tricky Beat Pattern for myself and it all went to hell
You're making the fatal assumption I'm actually a good player.VIDgamefrk9 wrote:
Excuse me for having a <99% accuracy because I am not a machine. I just got a tablet and I am getting used to it. Please understand that not everyone can be like Cookiezi and get SS on practically everything. Keep in mind that I don't play every day, so my accuracy may not be the best.WolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
Because numbersbuny wrote:
judging people by their written statsWolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
lol
Nice 95% accuracy there, buddy.dkun wrote:
...Nice 20k rank you have there, buddy.WolfCoder wrote:
Says the player with 87.89% accuracy...
The accuracy shown on your userpage means absolutely nothing about your actual accuracy. I actually have no idea where the concept of "alternating reduces accuracy" came from but I'm pretty sure there is no reason alternating would reduce your accuracy.WolfCoder wrote:
(I don't doubt that there are top 10k players who always alternate and have at least 97% accuracy though, I'm just being silly here since we devolved into stat quoting since the last page)
When people say alternating, they mean alternating everything not just streams. Of course even single tappers alternate streams (given they are too fast to maintain with one finger) but people seem to claim (without real evidence) that alternating things other than streams reduces accuracy for whatever reason.Talinoth wrote:
Seriously though, I've read some of the posts in this thread, thought about them, read them again, and they still don't make sense. Why would alternating reduce your accuracy? If you want to be the best at Osu, surely at some point you'll be forced to do the high bpm streams on maps like Freedom Dive - where, (I imagine), you'll have no choice but to alternate.
You'd think this but your secondary finger does not feel as far behind compared to your primary finger and single tapping does give you more stamina compared to alternating.Talinoth wrote:
All I see happening if you single tap the whole way through your Osu lifetime, is that you'll have one superbly buff finger mashing your Z key, and one puny underdeveloped finger on your X key. One finger will have amazing stamina, the other won't, your hand will look and feel wonky, and in situations where you more or less HAVE to alternate you won't do it as well as people who have been practicing it for ages already.
The accuracy shown on the userpage is the average accuracy you get when playing beatmaps. It will be lower than your real accuracy if: you play inaccurate on purpose for enough maps or you do not improve old scores. The second case goes away if you just play with improved accuracy for many more different beatmaps (as is the case with experienced players who have scores on thousands of beatmaps) thus saturating this metric much closer to your real accuracy. It can be too easy to have a high accuracy yet play lower difficulty beatmaps. Therefore, the only case in which this metric is accurate is if the player has a high rank (high ranked score) and has played many different beatmaps (high classic ranked score) and then the accurate metric will be.. accurate.Almost wrote:
...The accuracy shown on your userpage means absolutely nothing about your actual accuracy...
No you are still wrong. The accuracy shown on the userpage shows your average accuracy on your pp giving maps. Songs that award a lot of pp are not necessarily difficult and you can easily gain a high pp rank and accuracy by playing easy maps (like myself). Even songs that are actually difficult may not even award much pp if any at all and thus would affect your accuracy a lot less. Then you also have to consider the way OD affects pp accuracy. For example, you may get some pp for an OD7 song that you SS'd and that would improve your accuracy score shown on your userpage by 0.01%, but when you play it again with HR and only get 97%, you would lose that accuracy you just received even though the difficulty in obtain both those accuracies are more or less equivalent.WolfCoder wrote:
The accuracy shown on the userpage is the average accuracy you get when playing beatmaps. It will be lower than your real accuracy if: you play inaccurate on purpose for enough maps or you do not improve old scores. The second case goes away if you just play with improved accuracy for many more different beatmaps (as is the case with experienced players who have scores on thousands of beatmaps) thus saturating this metric much closer to your real accuracy. It can be too easy to have a high accuracy yet play lower difficulty beatmaps. Therefore, the only case in which this metric is accurate is if the player has a high rank (high ranked score) and has played many different beatmaps (high classic ranked score) and then the accurate metric will be.. accurate.Almost wrote:
...The accuracy shown on your userpage means absolutely nothing about your actual accuracy...
This doesn't make sense. Alternating should reduce the time between hits since you have a free finger that can tap whenever. If you single tap, you have to release the key and then re-hit it which increases time between hits. Human error shouldn't really apply greater for alternating if it feels more natural as well since you don't have to think before hitting your keyboard, you just do it. Also comparing unstable rates is silly because everyone has varying degrees of accuracy so it's just not possible.lolcubes wrote:
Alternating technically yields worse accuracy overall compared to single tap. Simply cause if you alternate everything, the time between hits is bigger and the margin for human error is bigger as well. Just check the unstable rates.
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/AccuracyAlmost wrote:
...The accuracy shown on the userpage shows your average accuracy on your pp giving maps...
He's making a point about the "break" time between single-tap vs alternate... i.e. liftin'Almost wrote:
This doesn't make sense.lolcubes wrote:
Alternating technically yields worse accuracy overall compared to single tap. Simply cause if you alternate everything, the time between hits is bigger and the margin for human error is bigger as well. Just check the unstable rates.
You're ranked 20k and stop getting pp from hards? I spent the last 3 days and this morning farming from about rank 160-100 and most of my pp came from hards. Hell, I don't think I played a single insane during that farming. Overall accuracy is based on your accuracy from all maps and it's shown when you finish a song and hit accuracy is just what pp accuracy is called. The pp system does not work at all which is why many players (and all top players) forgo it for the better alternative of tp.WolfCoder wrote:
Almost wrote:
...The accuracy shown on the userpage shows your average accuracy on your pp giving maps...
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Accuracy
The reference page does mention there are two global accuracy metrics, one called "Overall Accuracy" and one called "PP Accuracy", but the one on each profile is just called "Hit Accuracy". It doesn't actually matter which one it actually is since "PP Accuracy" would be better. The PP system is full of bizarre anomalies, but it generally works. You can't actually hard-farm, there was already a point hard maps quit giving me pp (and if they did it was 1 or so points) so now I have to do insanes (barring anomalies like that one easy map that for some reason give 100+ pp, but you can see that in a particular profile if it occurs). Though I seem to be one of the few (or only other one besides peppy) who believed in the PP system.
Because it can only process your top 50 scores, as it doesn't have access to the whole database.WolfCoder wrote:
Osu TP is completely whack for me, there's only 4 random easy beatmaps in my scores list there and nothing else.
When I start the pattern, I'm doing fine, getting 300's and whatnot, but after a longer period of time with the pattern it slowly descends into 50's and misses, So It might be a Timing, Stamina, or Endurance issuelolcubes wrote:
As for those patterns in the op, in what way do you struggle? Do your fingers get confused so you don't know what to press or is it just a timing issue?