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Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera

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Krisom wrote:

Ohai o/ wow, hi :o

Hard
00:30:188 (1,2) - Manually stack them like the others. (ex: 00:33:939 (1,2) - ) well ok I guess
01:31:368 (3,4) - Is this ok for a hard nowdays? kids these days :x, haha yes it's okay. it's not like you follow (3) to the end? you literally just press the start and then hop over to (4).
01:40:041 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - Nope. First, there's no reason to increase the spacing after (7) since there's no musical cue. Also WHY is (5) underlapped by (3)!? If you make (1,2,3,4,5) a star pattern I'll forgive everything. There is a reason; singer raising pitch noticably. I'll consider later though.
02:03:950 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is this really ok for a hard nowdays? At least add a NC at (5) (or at (6)) to make the player know the spacing will be going back to normal. Nope, it was just me being uncreative. I'll let something happen about it.
02:18:014 (4,5) - I'd really really REALLY consider unstacking all these on the slow section. This is the cue you've been using the whole diff for a 1/4 slider end. Gotta ask Reiji D:

Nice. thanks :)
As expected, not much to say. Great mapset. yeah I think so too :D
Thanks a lot, Krisom!
Yeah, the newer ways are a little different than what you are used to. You might wanna hit me up on that one if you wanna know more.

nevermind, everything fixed! v
Naraku!
osu file format v13

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narakucrimson
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narakucrimson

Krisom wrote:

Ohai o/

Insane
00:29:954 (10,1,2,3) - Still think they should be evenly spaced. Move (1) further away please. First, for the sake of the pattern, no. Second, it doesn't feel bad at all!
00:31:829 (7) - Finish is a tad too much for the vocalist high pitch. Maybe a normal whistle or a clap.
00:35:580 (11) - ^ Again I don't fully agree, but I changed them for whistles
01:47:307 (10) - Rankeable? Before I was absent, sliderticks that were outside the grid were considered unrankeable because it'd make the map impossible to be SS'd in CtB. Same 01:51:058 (10) EDIT: Asked in #lounge. They still are. EDIT2: No they're not, it gets autofixed on CtB. Glad to know that now.
02:32:782 (4) - I feel a whistle would help follow the rhythm better. It would create emphasis where I don't want it, so no :C
02:38:525 - No circle here makes me :'( Reworked the pattern to add a circle

Great as expected.

Normal
I feel you've abused the normal finish here. Also, why not reduce the slider tickrate? For these rhythms it feels like a lot.
The hitsounds had a lot of thought behind them, they are fine ^^ also, the tick rate helps follow some rythms that I can't really get with the hit objects, I believe it feels pretty good!
01:08:396 (2,3) - I love you too <3 :3
02:26:453 (3) - Shouldn't this be soft? No :D
03:00:441 (3) - Just make this start at (2)'s. Feels weird right now. Why? Not only it really isn't a problem, but also it manages to put a lot of emphasis on the voice, which is something I really like.


As expected, not much to say. Great mapset.
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Sonnyc wrote:

Random suggestion for a great song & map. Since it's so tiny, no need to kd.

Insane:
  1. 03:17:084 (8) - How about adding an extra combo at this last note to give a stable ending of the map? Also since there is a volume change, this note feels seperated from the previous combe section. Yeah, sounds like a good idea
Star Star~~ Good luck! I always like your maps.
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Sonnyc wrote:

Random suggestion for a great song & map. Since it's so tiny, no need to kd.

Insane:
  1. 02:47:080 (1) - Everytime the kiai starts, it just started with a single Finish, without a whistle. This hitsound usage feels a little off in consistency, and even if it was an intention of an emphasis, still I didn't felt nice. I felt that it was appropriate as a one-time climax, so I don't know what I'd rather do.
  2. 03:00:441 (9,10) - I think just tabbing ctrl+G while selecting both would construct a smoother flow. Why don't you try it? I just tried it and I know that it wouldn't work, simply by looking at it. I wanted a sharp directional change upward to match the vocal's change in intensity.
  3. 03:17:084 (8) - How about adding an extra combo at this last note to give a stable ending of the map? Also since there is a volume change, this note feels seperated from the previous combe section.
Not my point to address, but new combos create an awkward double combo finish. If anything, that would probably destabilise the ending even more. Finishes go on the end of a pattern.

Star Star~~ Good luck! I always like your maps.
Fuck yes, I got a Krisom clean sweep (also, I think naraku's finishes are fine).
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Hey! no quiero que me vuelvas loco (?

[General]
  1. Asegúrate de deshabilitar widescreen support en todas las dificultades, a pesar de que Hard e Insane si cuentan con un SB no es necesario porque el BG es menor a 1366x768 pixeles y esto ocasiona que se adecue a la pantalla: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960047, si contaras con un BG 1366x768 las franjas negras con el widescreen support activado se eliminarían y de esa manera si sería de utilidad. Por todo lo anterior esa opción no es necesaria en este map.
  2. Las reglas hoy en día son un poco estrictas respecto a que el artista y el titulo estén correctamente, en este caso el artista debería ser únicamente "Maroon 5" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)". Aquí la fuente.
  3. Nada necesario pero que te parece agregar "Adam Levine" y "Hands All Over" a las tags?

[Normal]
  1. Al parecer se te olvidó agregar los otros combo colors en está dificultad, asegúrate que sean los mismos que en Hard e Insane.
  2. 02:45:205 - ¿Que te parece agregar un spinner aquí? La verdad es que encaja perfectamente con la pista y podría terminar 1/1 antes del siguiente circle para no hacerlo tan difícil, además de que el circle esta justo en el centro. Si estas de acuerdo supongo que necesitarás hacer lo mismo en Insane para ser consistente.
[Hard]
  1. Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a "Collab Hard" para especificar que se trata de un collab, lo mismo para el Insane donde deberá ser "Collab Insane", las reglas nuevas otra vez, blah blah.
  2. How about HP & OD+1? Now the setup seems kinda low to an Hard diff.

    Lizzy
  3. 00:52:691 (1) - *nazi* Remove the red control point of this slider to make it smoother. http://puu.sh/b5zAL/a545032935.png
  4. 00:55:738 (1) - This combo with only one slider looks pretty weird-oh, maybe try this: 00:54:566 (6) - Add new combo here (fits perfectly with the music) and then remove the new combo here.
  5. 01:28:321 - The rhythmic break should start here.
  6. 01:36:759 (1) - How about make a straight slider instead this one? imo looks/fits better: http://puu.sh/b5A3f/a37e3c73c2.png
  7. 01:41:213 (5) - To be consistent with the spacing change of this combo, stack this circle with (3). Now the spacing between this circle and the previous is weird, you know why.
  8. 02:40:986 (7) - Move the second control point to the opposite side, I find this way better to the flow. http://puu.sh/b5ACJ/ea5d10f03f.png
  9. 03:17:084 - Add a circle with finish here maybe? In Normal & Insane works pretty well, why not here?.

    Reiji
  10. 01:14:022 (5) - *nazi* Move both control points to opposite side to make a smoother slider: http://puu.sh/b5zRA/d114d77531.png
  11. 01:54:574 (1) - Considers move this downwards and Ctrl+Ging the next slider to make a jump consistent with 01:52:699 (1). Something like this: http://puu.sh/b5Apv/d7411e1bf8.png
[Insane]

  • D33D
  1. 00:54:566 (9) - Considers add NC here. I mean, the symmetric sequence begins here and this combo is turning long.
  2. 01:09:568 (9) - Same thing here.
  3. 02:28:328 (1) - Remove this NC and add one to 02:29:031 (9), if you don't add with the first thing at least considers add nc to 02:29:031 (9) since the sv changes (really considers).
  4. 02:56:457 (10) - Again with the nc issue, add one here and remove from 02:57:629 (1), then add new combo in 02:58:332 (8). idk I find this way better.
  5. 03:00:441 (6) - Okay maybe here the NC is really necessary, c'mon the spacing is totally different in comparison with the previous.

    Naraku
  6. 00:33:939 (6) - Puede que no sea necesario pero siento que deberías agregar un NC aquí. Hiciste lo mismo aquí 00:36:517 (1) y es prácticamente el mismo espacio entre ambos patrones.
  7. 00:43:081 (5) - No sé si te guste pero intenta hacerle Ctrl+G a este slider, creo que podrías mejorar el flujo ya que el slider anterior sigue el mismo curso que este. Sobre el siguiente circle no veo el problema ya que es fácil seguirlo desde que a los slider 1/2 solo es necesario mantener el cursor en el inicio para lograrlos.
  8. 01:28:321 - Agrega un rhythmic break que empiece aquí (como lo hiciste en normal).
  9. 01:54:574 (7) - La verdad no soy fanático de los combos largos así que quizás agrega un nc aquí (va bien con la secuencia simetrica). Vamos! algunos en esta diff son verdaderamente muy largos.
  10. 01:58:324 (5) - NC por el cambio en la pista, y si quizás aquí no, puede que en el siguiente circle si sea necesario.
  11. 02:09:576 (7) - Lo mismo de los NC, solo lo mencionaré porque me llaman bastante la atención.
  12. 02:14:029 (10,11) - Que el primer slider termine en un tick azúl y el circle este en uno blanco puede llegar a confundir bastante, quizás sigan apropiadamente la pista pero resulta confuso de verdad. Considera eliminar el circle y agregar una repetición al slider.
  13. 02:35:829 (9) - Aquí creo que vendría bien un NC, aparte de que el sv aumenta ligeramente, tanto la voz como el espaciado sugieren uno.
  14. 03:11:458 (7) - Lo mismo, perdón por la insistencia pero siento que son verdaderamente necesarios.
  15. 03:17:084 (8) - Agrega quizas un NC aquí, no es muy necesario pero queda bastante bien por el cambio en la pista y el volumen del finish.
Pff pensé que me tomaría menos terminarlo, espero que te sirva de ayuda
Y no te preocupes por mi guest diff, ya está en marcha.
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Kenezz wrote:

Hey! no quiero que me vuelvas loco (?

[General]
  1. Asegúrate de deshabilitar widescreen support en todas las dificultades, a pesar de que Hard e Insane si cuentan con un SB no es necesario porque el BG es menor a 1366x768 pixeles y esto ocasiona que se adecue a la pantalla: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960047, si contaras con un BG 1366x768 las franjas negras con el widescreen support activado se eliminarían y de esa manera si sería de utilidad. Por todo lo anterior esa opción no es necesaria en este map. No termino de entender, con y sin Widescreen Support, el background se sigue ajustando... Pero bueno.
  2. Las reglas hoy en día son un poco estrictas respecto a que el artista y el titulo estén correctamente, en este caso el artista debería ser únicamente "Maroon 5" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)". Aquí la fuente. Listo!
  3. Nada necesario pero que te parece agregar "Adam Levine" y "Hands All Over" a las tags?

[Normal]
  1. Al parecer se te olvidó agregar los otros combo colors en está dificultad, asegúrate que sean los mismos que en Hard e Insane. No, la idea es que solo sean los colores de un mapper, denota que no es un collab.
  2. 02:45:205 - ¿Que te parece agregar un spinner aquí? La verdad es que encaja perfectamente con la pista y podría terminar 1/1 antes del siguiente circle para no hacerlo tan difícil, además de que el circle esta justo en el centro. Si estas de acuerdo supongo que necesitarás hacer lo mismo en Insane para ser consistente. Prefiero la pausa!
[Hard]
  1. Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a "Collab Hard" para especificar que se trata de un collab, lo mismo para el Insane donde deberá ser "Collab Insane", las reglas nuevas otra vez, blah blah.
  2. How about HP & OD+1? Now the setup seems kinda low to an Hard diff.

    Lizzy
  3. 00:52:691 (1) - *nazi* Remove the red control point of this slider to make it smoother. http://puu.sh/b5zAL/a545032935.png
  4. 00:55:738 (1) - This combo with only one slider looks pretty weird-oh, maybe try this: 00:54:566 (6) - Add new combo here (fits perfectly with the music) and then remove the new combo here.
  5. 01:28:321 - The rhythmic break should start here.
  6. 01:36:759 (1) - How about make a straight slider instead this one? imo looks/fits better: http://puu.sh/b5A3f/a37e3c73c2.png
  7. 01:41:213 (5) - To be consistent with the spacing change of this combo, stack this circle with (3). Now the spacing between this circle and the previous is weird, you know why.
  8. 02:40:986 (7) - Move the second control point to the opposite side, I find this way better to the flow. http://puu.sh/b5ACJ/ea5d10f03f.png
  9. 03:17:084 - Add a circle with finish here maybe? In Normal & Insane works pretty well, why not here?.

    Reiji
  10. 01:14:022 (5) - *nazi* Move both control points to opposite side to make a smoother slider: http://puu.sh/b5zRA/d114d77531.png
  11. 01:54:574 (1) - Considers move this downwards and Ctrl+Ging the next slider to make a jump consistent with 01:52:699 (1). Something like this: http://puu.sh/b5Apv/d7411e1bf8.png
[Insane]

  • D33D
  1. 00:54:566 (9) - Considers add NC here. I mean, the symmetric sequence begins here and this combo is turning long.
  2. 01:09:568 (9) - Same thing here.
  3. 02:28:328 (1) - Remove this NC and add one to 02:29:031 (9), if you don't add with the first thing at least considers add nc to 02:29:031 (9) since the sv changes (really considers).
  4. 02:56:457 (10) - Again with the nc issue, add one here and remove from 02:57:629 (1), then add new combo in 02:58:332 (8). idk I find this way better.
  5. 03:00:441 (6) - Okay maybe here the NC is really necessary, c'mon the spacing is totally different in comparison with the previous.

    Naraku
  6. 00:33:939 (6) - Puede que no sea necesario pero siento que deberías agregar un NC aquí. Hiciste lo mismo aquí 00:36:517 (1) y es prácticamente el mismo espacio entre ambos patrones. Lo mismo!
  7. 00:43:081 (5) - No sé si te guste pero intenta hacerle Ctrl+G a este slider, creo que podrías mejorar el flujo ya que el slider anterior sigue el mismo curso que este. Sobre el siguiente circle no veo el problema ya que es fácil seguirlo desde que a los slider 1/2 solo es necesario mantener el cursor en el inicio para lograrlos. No le hice precisamente Ctrl + G a ese slider, pero hice otra cosa. No me parecía tan imperante.
  8. 01:28:321 - Agrega un rhythmic break que empiece aquí (como lo hiciste en normal). Originalmente estaba, no sé qué pasó!
  9. 01:54:574 (7) - La verdad no soy fanático de los combos largos así que quizás agrega un nc aquí (va bien con la secuencia simetrica). Vamos! algunos en esta diff son verdaderamente muy largos.
  10. 01:58:324 (5) - NC por el cambio en la pista, y si quizás aquí no, puede que en el siguiente circle si sea necesario.
  11. 02:09:576 (7) - Lo mismo de los NC, solo lo mencionaré porque me llaman bastante la atención. No voy a cambiar ningún combo :S
  12. 02:14:029 (10,11) - Que el primer slider termine en un tick azúl y el circle este en uno blanco puede llegar a confundir bastante, quizás sigan apropiadamente la pista pero resulta confuso de verdad. Considera eliminar el circle y agregar una repetición al slider. La idea es que presten atención al hitcircle, no me parece que esté mal.
  13. 02:35:829 (9) - Aquí creo que vendría bien un NC, aparte de que el sv aumenta ligeramente, tanto la voz como el espaciado sugieren uno.
  14. 03:11:458 (7) - Lo mismo, perdón por la insistencia pero siento que son verdaderamente necesarios.
  15. 03:17:084 (8) - Agrega quizas un NC aquí, no es muy necesario pero queda bastante bien por el cambio en la pista y el volumen del finish.
Pff pensé que me tomaría menos terminarlo, espero que te sirva de ayuda
Y no te preocupes por mi guest diff, ya está en marcha.
Perdón por los combos pero se quedan así. Gracias! :D
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Combomods: sorry, I won't be changing any of them any time soon, since I had specific ideas for phrasing. I might split one or two longer combos, but I don't recall there being anything overly long. As for spacing, I never NC spacing changes for the sake of it, so it's generally better to point out spacing issues for my mapping.
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narakucrimson wrote:

[General]
Las reglas hoy en día son un poco estrictas respecto a que el artista y el titulo estén correctamente, en este caso el artista debería ser únicamente "Maroon 5" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)". Aquí la fuente. Listo!
Una acotación sobre algo que muchas veces resulta ambiguo y en lo que las fuentes se suelen contradecir.

iTunes identifica a un solo nombre en el campo de artista cuando el otro artista es un un artista de apoyo, tan solo cuando es un dueto o algo así los identifica a ambos en el campo de 'Artist' (Como por ejemplo en Princess of China). Aún así, me parece que todos los artistas aunque sean colaboradores los deberías incluir en el campo de 'Artist' ya que el Título propiamente dicho es tan solo "Moves Like Jagger". Por ejemplo, en Wiki en el título incluyen a la parte del "featuring" pero no dentro de las comillas que indican el título en sí, sino simplemente al costado con una fuente pequeña http://prntscr.com/4ghyd7

Bueno, no puedo estar 100% seguro, de cualquier forma estaría bien pero yo creo que se ve mucho mejor si sólo incluyes el título propiamente dicho en el campo respectivo.



Si quieres que revise esto me avisas :d
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Bien, indagando más sobre el tema del titulo creo que Gonz tiene razón, al parecer muchas fuentes como Itunes consideran agregar únicamente al campo del artista a aquellos que hallan colaborado en la canción/canciones una mayor parte de esta (como es el caso de los duetos).

Ahora, para determinar cual es el titulo y artista correcto he buscado el formato físico del tema (que me ha resultado ser la fuente más confiable por obvias razones) y esto fue lo que encontré:

A) http://puu.sh/b80Jz/12151c1037.png
B) http://puu.sh/b80O7/56167ae380.png

Como habrás notado, tanto el titulo como el artista estaban correctos como los tenías (sorry), aunque con una pequeña diferencia: El "feat." debe extenderse a "featuring" quedando el artista finalmente como: "Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger"

PD: Revisa el primer punto en el mod que le hice al Hard, creo que se te pasó por alto.
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Cannot respond for 2+ weeks. I think you're lucky if Reiji is coming back anytime soon... because if that's the case, I'd like her to take care of my parts, the way she thinks it's right.

But right now, I can't... sorry :I
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Nunca vi un "featuring" completo en una canción en ningún lado, creo que me corto las venas antes de poner la palabra entera... No puede ser la abreviatura?
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Amigo, lamento decirtelo pero parece que tendrás que cortarte las venas owo;

SPOILER

Avisame cuando tomes una desición para darle recheck (a menos que Kenzy o Gonz ya esten en ello, en cuyo caso me encargo de la burbuja)
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Kenezz wrote:

[Hard]
  1. Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a "Collab Hard" para especificar que se trata de un collab, lo mismo para el Insane donde deberá ser "Collab Insane", las reglas nuevas otra vez, blah blah. Are you saying this is a new rule? If not, I'd strongly advise against changing the names since the sb kinda tells they're collabs. Even if it's a rule, I hate it by now.
  2. How about HP & OD+1? Now the setup seems kinda low to an Hard diff. make it rather 6,5 both

    Lizzy
  3. 00:52:691 (1) - *nazi* Remove the red control point of this slider to make it smoother. http://puu.sh/b5zAL/a545032935.png doesn't change much, but I think I can go with it.
  4. 00:55:738 (1) - This combo with only one slider looks pretty weird-oh, maybe try this: 00:54:566 (6) - Add new combo here (fits perfectly with the music) and then remove the new combo here. The NC isn't weird because it makes sense the way it's sitting between both combos. It feels weird not having it, mind you, the singer has started a new sentence here already.
  5. 01:28:321 - The rhythmic break should start here. ??? I don't really get what you mean.
  6. 01:36:759 (1) - How about make a straight slider instead this one? imo looks/fits better: http://puu.sh/b5A3f/a37e3c73c2.png it doesn't really fit better, and I did that on purpose, but it wouldn't change anythingwithout red node.
  7. 01:41:213 (5) - To be consistent with the spacing change of this combo, stack this circle with (3). Now the spacing between this circle and the previous is weird, you know why. I currently don't have the editor in front of me, so I can't tell visually. But I've memorized the section well enough and as I listened to that part on mp3, it sounds like a part where I'm sure abou what I did. I'll take another look at it whenever possible, though.
  8. 02:40:986 (7) - Move the second control point to the opposite side, I find this way better to the flow. http://puu.sh/b5ACJ/ea5d10f03f.png Yeah looks nice, I'll have the pattern in the example built in!
  9. 03:17:084 - Add a circle with finish here maybe? In Normal & Insane works pretty well, why not here? I doesn't exactly work well, I mean think about it: there's not even a beat in the song that it would be mapped to.

    Reiji
  10. 01:14:022 (5) - *nazi* Move both control points to opposite side to make a smoother slider: http://puu.sh/b5zRA/d114d77531.png
  11. 01:54:574 (1) - Considers move this downwards and Ctrl+Ging the next slider to make a jump consistent with 01:52:699 (1). Something like this: http://puu.sh/b5Apv/d7411e1bf8.png
    I advise against both suggestions; both points were made intentionally and I can't help but suggest to wait on Reiji's opinion. :/
Thank you!
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Okay, fixed everything that I was allowed to haha

The map is up now!
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lol.. ese ''featuring'' en el titulo se ve horrible.. no horrible no.. espantoso! D: quizas horrible y espantoso al mismo tiempo xd
Tenia que decirlo hehe.. Suerte con el mapa :P!

*runs*
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narakucrimson wrote:

[Normal]
  1. Al parecer se te olvidó agregar los otros combo colors en está dificultad, asegúrate que sean los mismos que en Hard e Insane. No, la idea es que solo sean los colores de un mapper, denota que no es un collab.
En ese caso agrega también los combos nuevos en esta diff y ajustalos manualmente para que solo se muestren los "default", estoy seguro que como los tienes ahora son unrankeables porque todas las diffs deben tener los mismos combo colors
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Really? Eso parece una regla tan tonta... Pero bueno, si es necesario... Ahí lo arreglé
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Lol, when I first read the title, I pronounced it ''Move Like Jeager'' blame snk pls
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Hiii naraku!

[Insane]
01:50:355 (7,8,9) - Try to make these 3 symmetrical with 01:49:300 (2,3,4,5) ?
01:52:230 (11,12) - These would flow better if you move them to the top right corner
01:54:574 (7,8) - Feels like you ran out of space here and the positioning of 8 feels awkward, you could try moving these to the bottom left corner to have more space 01:53:871 (4,5,6)
02:04:653 (4,5,6,7,8) - The position of 8 looks awkward here, what were you going for?

[Hard]
00:37:455 (5,1) - Uh, for starters i dont think these should be stacked, but if you keep it then:

Stack properly pls u.u
01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something.
01:59:028 (1) - Eh i think you should remove this spinner, it's pretty short + post-spinner notes are quite close anyway.
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
02:59:738 (4,1) - I would expect some of your unique slider stacking here, but seems like it's different on this one, any specific reason?
03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle?

[Normal]
00:44:253 (6,7) - Is this stack really necessary.
02:55:050 (1,2) - I disagree with 1/2 stacks like these on the lowest diff of the set.

Good Luck!
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In addition
dunno why, map page doesn't give variant to dl without video (i'm late orz)
...about stacks, mentioned by Sakura - they are fine for me.

Insane
01:29:493 (1) - 1/8 here
Hard
01:29:493 (1) - 1/6 here for the same. guys pls, someone is wrong.

A bit more for Hard
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
Hard has many 1/4 moments, would be great to reduce quantity of 1/4 for consistancy with other diffs (ofc if it's possible)

Normal
I personally have nothing against 1/2 stacks (mentioned by Sakura), but i don't like mixing stacks in easiest diffs, as example 1/1 stacks together with 1/2. so, i'd choose stacks for 1/2 and regular spacing for 1/1. anyway, just my vision and suggestion
02:49:424 (5,6) - expected 1/1 slider with reverse here
03:00:207 (2,3) - i'd move (3) 1/2 later, current 1/2 rhythm sounds strange for me http://puu.sh/cBBLV/37da110c1c.jpg

poke me l8r o/
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Oh hi guys!

Sakura wrote:

Hiii naraku! Hii! :D

[Insane]
01:50:355 (7,8,9) - Try to make these 3 symmetrical with 01:49:300 (2,3,4,5) ? They are actually symmetrical to 01:46:604 (7,8,9) -
01:52:230 (11,12) - These would flow better if you move them to the top right corner Alright
01:54:574 (7,8) - Feels like you ran out of space here and the positioning of 8 feels awkward, you could try moving these to the bottom left corner to have more space 01:53:871 (4,5,6) Nah, this is intentional and I don't feel it neither forced nor awkward at all ^^
02:04:653 (4,5,6,7,8) - The position of 8 looks awkward here, what were you going for? First, it is aligned with 02:04:653 (4,7) - . Second, I wanted to create a nice progressive jump pattern. It doesn't feel awkward imo.

[Normal]
00:44:253 (6,7) - Is this stack really necessary. Well the basic idea was to create a little pause before the chorus started. I think the effect itself is really cool, but maybe it isn't really needed. Removed and reworked the pattern.
02:55:050 (1,2) - I disagree with 1/2 stacks like these on the lowest diff of the set. I now use sliders instead of the two circle stacks. Didn't change the ones that were a circle-slider stack.

Good Luck! Thanks! :D
And also...

Aleks719 wrote:

In addition
dunno why, map page doesn't give variant to dl without video (i'm late orz) wut let's see if the update fixes that!
...about stacks, mentioned by Sakura - they are fine for me.

Insane
01:29:493 (1) - 1/8 here
Hard
01:29:493 (1) - 1/6 here for the same. guys pls, someone is wrong. Lol changed this one.

Normal
I personally have nothing against 1/2 stacks (mentioned by Sakura), but i don't like mixing stacks in easiest diffs, as example 1/1 stacks together with 1/2. so, i'd choose stacks for 1/2 and regular spacing for 1/1. anyway, just my vision and suggestion
02:49:424 (5,6) - expected 1/1 slider with reverse here The idea was to include a little follow-up to Christina's voice here. Don't think it's that wrong.
03:00:207 (2,3) - i'd move (3) 1/2 later, current 1/2 rhythm sounds strange for me http://puu.sh/cBBLV/37da110c1c.jpg Again, this is all to emphasize Christina's voice. I think it's a very relevant elemet of the song in this particular part. Let me know if that doesn't convince you!

poke me l8r o/ I'll tell you when the gurls answer to the mod :P
Thanks a lot! :D
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Naraku, it's 1/6, I listened extremely closely.
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ffs naraku it's 1/6
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Sakura wrote:

[Hard]
00:37:455 (5,1) - Uh, for starters i dont think these should be stacked, but if you keep it then: I like this stacks~

Stack properly pls u.u
01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something. Lizzy!
01:59:028 (1) - Eh i think you should remove this spinner, it's pretty short + post-spinner notes are quite close anyway. Removed
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard. Made 1/1
02:59:738 (4,1) - I would expect some of your unique slider stacking here, but seems like it's different on this one, any specific reason? cause I do these stacks on sliders very rarely
03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle? Lizzy? D:
Thank you!

Aleks719 wrote:

A bit more for Hard
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
Hard has many 1/4 moments, would be great to reduce quantity of 1/4 for consistancy with other diffs (ofc if it's possible) Fixed some 1/4

Спасибо!
http://puu.sh/cEyuf/0eb012cbe6.osu

BTW for Naraku:

Insane

  1. 00:44:018 (3,4,5) - 1/6 here (but 1/4 plays good for me anyway, just letting you know if you want to fix it :3)
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Omg double post, sorry ;w;
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Cool map :D
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Thanks Secretpipe! :D

Also yeah you might be right about the 1/6ths.

Updated!
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Sakura wrote:

02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
Show me where it says so in the guidelines/ranking criteria.

Sakura wrote:

01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something.
Well I could think about it, I spaced the circles before (4,5) so hugely because singer's pitch reaches a peak. (4,5) are evenly spaced, also towards following (1), because pitch stays the same on (4,5). Anyway, could change this in the future.

Sakura wrote:

03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle?
Nope, because a finish emphasizes the end of drumset too much. A whistle is much more delicate.

Aleks719 wrote:

03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
I didn't do that because there's no actual beat on where the other diffs stop. The way I stopped is made more closely to the last drum hit.


I sound picky, yes I do. But for a reason..... sorry guys for lack of fixes! :(

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440,264,189583,6,2,P|468:184|460:96,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
448,76,190052,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,134,190286,2,2,L|225:139,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
178,230,190755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
219,129,190990,2,0,P|228:78|211:20,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
69,103,191458,2,2,P|57:162|84:263,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
72,268,191927,2,0,L|185:261,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,296,192396,1,0,3:0:0:0:
384,252,192630,2,0,P|392:196|378:144,2,107.999996704102,2|8|2,1:1|1:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
224,328,193334,6,2,P|211:275|219:222,1,107.999996704102,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,68,193803,2,2,P|312:120|304:173,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,136,194271,2,2,P|168:123|221:131,1,107.999996704102,2|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
396,248,194740,2,0,P|343:260|290:252,1,107.999996704102,10|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,195209,12,2,196615,2:0:0:0:
did change one awkward pattern tho
narakucrimson
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Sorry for going AWOL. I'm going to do what I can to help this set, so I'll check my parts and see what you've changed.
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Lizzy wrote:

Sakura wrote:

02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
Show me where it says so in the guidelines/ranking criteria.
p/3359472

Garven wrote:

Using these settings as criteria:

BPM 160

Easy: 1 full measure of recovery time -> 1500 ms
Normal: 2 beats recovery time -> 750 ms
Hard: 1 beat recovery time -> 375 ms
Insane or higher: Any (within musical reason)

Having a hardline is unreasonable due to varying BPM however, so having a little leeway is fine, but this as a guideline should give sufficient recovery time for players of the respective difficulty levels.
Actually i said 1 full measure, but i meant 1 beat, heh.
narakucrimson
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Yeah, as I told you via private:

Garven told me that the rule is very adamant about hitobjects. He said that spinners shouldn't be a problem, as in having a separation of 1/2 beat between spinners is ok.

You can check that with him anyway, but I believe that solves it :)

Naraku out!
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The issue about post-spinner objects is for resetting the cursor to aim at your next target. Spinners don't need that.

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like I had a choice.... hrrr

http://puu.sh/cO5V5/17e828ea1e.osu
narakucrimson
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Okay it's updated again. COuld we get that bubble going pleeeeeease?
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Before i remod this recheck the metadata, because i believe it goes more like this recently qualified map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/156371
(Also this means that it can't get qualified anyway until that map is out of qualified)
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we went through this a million times.... you know, mancuso naraku and so on

really now?
narakucrimson
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Yeah, read the thread Sakura xD

We've already discussed this and reached a conscensus, the metadata is correct as is.
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Yeah but then doesnt that mean the other one needs to be DQ'd?
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Yes it does, strictly speaking
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