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Hi~

M4M From my queue
基本都是suggestion,不喜欢可以ignore。

General
MP3的质量好像有点差,我听起来好嘈杂..也可能是歌本身就这样。找找有没有192kbps的吧.
我觉得所有diff的音效都稍微有点吵(音量),盖住了歌。考虑适当降低音量
这是一首两分半的曲子,你真的不准备放哪怕一个break吗..整首打下来感觉...
01:43:358 - 到01:54:652 - 完全可以放个break(也是唯一可以放的地方,王直男从头到尾都在唱._.)

Easy
我建议你用1.1Distance Snap来摆。现在的间距太小了,note跟note之间靠太近,不好看。1.1会好看很多
00:24:299 (1,2) - 1尾和2加Finish听起来不错
00:25:711 (3,4,1) - 没围好,同时也是1.0X的原因,看起来不美观 乱乱的
01:11:594 (4,1) - 4往下放或者1往上放,flow好点
01:44:770 (2) - 感觉不是很好,考虑复制01:43:358 (1) - 然后Ctrl+H和Ctrl+J。好看点
01:56:064 (3,4,1) - 间距不等,强烈建议用1.1x... 后面一样的就不提了
感觉挺好的,就是节奏稍微有点密,空拍能再多点就好了

Normal
00:32:417 (2) - 可以移到00:31:005 (4) - 一样的位置
00:56:770 (3) - 跟00:55:358 (1) - 一模一样的音,也做成长滑条会很好
01:02:417 (3) - ^
01:40:535 (3) - 完全没跟上节奏.. 01:40:888 - 01:41:241 - 01:41:947 - 这几个音都没下到,难受。在normal里很难下,干脆用个转盘吧..
02:07:358 (3) - 头上加clap?

Hard
00:01:711 (4,5) - 一个2.1的跳? 而且音乐听不出有变化。 莫名
00:03:476 (2,3) - 又一个 我觉得真的没必要.这是hard
00:08:064 (3) - Spacing...这类的做法我觉得只适合在insane里出现。
00:11:505 (4) - 什么都没跟到
00:28:888 (1,2) - 不要叠不好看
00:28:888 (1,2,3) - 后面两个KIAI这里都是1/2塞满了。为何第一个不这么做,不统一。
00:29:594 (3,1) - ^
00:31:358 (1,2,3,4) - 没必要加速,音乐根本听不出。而且不明显,看起来比较混乱。
00:34:182 (1,2,3,4) - ^这里还跟前面反过来了...单纯是想用加速梗?
00:37:358 (2,3) -4.0x跳 饶命
00:55:358 (1) - 1/2音很明显,做成1/2吧
00:57:123 (6) - ^
后面一样的段落就不挑了 对照同样的音检查.
02:00:299 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏最密的地方反而note最疏.. why? 不跟歌曲走的话这个感觉像自己打节拍
排版有些乱,可以清爽很多的。这么乱的原因是你的spacing很混乱。我觉得Hard还是好好开着DS做,没必要随机改变spacing。那些点子留给Insane吧。(这个难度本身就像一个节奏密度低的Insane)

Insane
有点吵..整首打下来头有点晕_(:з」∠)_
00:04:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - - 这里全是1/4琵琶音,这样下不是不可以,但是浪费了1/4. 像我标的一样放个9连多带感。
00:10:182 (1,2,3,4) - ^塞成连打
00:21:476 (2,3,4,5) - 琵琶音浪费了。。
00:24:476 - 这里开始的减速莫名 强烈推荐不减速。。
00:42:652 (1,2,3,4) - 跟其他难度一样的问题
00:45:476 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:55:535 (2,3,4) - 做成纯1/2 跟那个刷拉拉拉..
01:01:711 (5,6) - overmap
01:02:770 (2,3) - ^
01:40:799 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 异常难读,用蓝线滑条吧(随便放的不要用这个排版)http://puu.sh/6lpnK.jpg
01:43:005 (5) - overmap,去掉reverse
02:10:535 (1,2,3) - 为何不跟第二个KIAI一样 难度不一致..
02:00:299 - 这么好的下串地方,浪费了 做点连打吧..
有点单调,感觉从头到尾都是差不多。。能下串的地方就下点串吧。

感觉还有不少可以提高的地方.Good luck
Topic Starter
liangv587
好好改
Awaken
王直男 谢谢你的爱
Narcissu
沒想到587做正常的insane 這麼厲害……Orz

手動黑化什麼鬼……那個osb真的要這樣?

怎麼有兩個Mp3 …… 而且kbps 這麼低……黑科技還是什麼?

BG是1366*767……可能你有強迫症會希望換成768……

[Easy]

很不錯111

不過到後面似乎就懶了,基本都是貪吃蛇和blanket,多錨點少了,弧度也固定了

[Normal]

00:18:677 - 重音還是建議放置點擊,其他地方如果被排版限制就算了。這種帶了finish的儘量都起滑條下圈吧

[Hard]

01:39:148 (1,2,3,4) - 這種3/4表示人聲的方式,如果不希望滑條尾的normal-hitnormal影響節奏可以把samplest 切成soft達到簡易消音的效果

01:43:030 (3) - 值得一提是音樂這裡很神奇的停掉了,不建議overmap在hard

[Insane]

01:23:619 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 這個完全貼底線了大概相當難打……【雖然我小映射輕鬆虐

02:00:324 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 只管放8/16連打不必擔心難打……四下一頓反而不合曲,也不合4.5的星級

如果這是妹子歌我把星全給你 ~\(≧▽≦)/~
jonathanlfj
i tried, need furthur refinements in some transitions since different layers seem to go at different timing...

331,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
1742,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
24330,375,4,1,1,70,1,0
25080,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
25785,342.857142857143,4,1,1,70,1,0
26470,333.333333333333,4,1,1,70,1,0
27153,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
29978,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
64188,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
65246,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
66657,361.44578313253,4,1,1,70,1,0
68102,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
69513,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
70924,337.078651685393,4,1,1,70,1,0
71598,357.142857142857,4,1,1,70,1,0
72312,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
75148,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
78676,375,4,1,1,70,1,0
79426,333.333333333333,4,1,1,70,1,0
80092,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
80797,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
100561,348.837209302326,4,1,1,70,1,0
102305,359.281437125748,4,1,1,70,1,0
103382,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
111896,338.983050847458,4,1,1,70,1,0
112573,355.029585798817,4,1,1,70,1,0
112928,372.670807453416,4,1,1,70,1,0
113300,344.827586206897,4,1,1,70,1,0
114679,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
116090,350.877192982456,4,1,1,70,1,0
117493,357.142857142857,4,1,1,70,1,0
118921,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
119626,344.827586206897,4,1,1,70,1,0
120315,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
125980,375,4,1,1,70,1,0
126730,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
127435,342.857142857143,4,1,1,70,1,0
128120,333.333333333333,4,1,1,70,1,0
128786,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
131609,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
151373,359.281437125748,4,1,1,70,1,0
Topic Starter
liangv587

jonathanlfj wrote:

i tried, need furthur refinements in some transitions since different layers seem to go at different timing...

331,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
1742,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
24330,375,4,1,1,70,1,0
25080,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
25785,342.857142857143,4,1,1,70,1,0
26470,333.333333333333,4,1,1,70,1,0
27153,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
29978,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
64188,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
65246,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
66657,361.44578313253,4,1,1,70,1,0
68102,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
69513,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
70924,337.078651685393,4,1,1,70,1,0
71598,357.142857142857,4,1,1,70,1,0
72312,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
75148,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
78676,375,4,1,1,70,1,0
79426,333.333333333333,4,1,1,70,1,0
80092,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
80797,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
100561,348.837209302326,4,1,1,70,1,0
102305,359.281437125748,4,1,1,70,1,0
103382,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
111896,338.983050847458,4,1,1,70,1,0
112573,355.029585798817,4,1,1,70,1,0
112928,372.670807453416,4,1,1,70,1,0
113300,344.827586206897,4,1,1,70,1,0
114679,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
116090,350.877192982456,4,1,1,70,1,0
117493,357.142857142857,4,1,1,70,1,0
118921,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
119626,344.827586206897,4,1,1,70,1,0
120315,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
125980,375,4,1,1,70,1,0
126730,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
127435,342.857142857143,4,1,1,70,1,0
128120,333.333333333333,4,1,1,70,1,0
128786,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
131609,352.941176470588,4,1,1,70,1,0
151373,359.281437125748,4,1,1,70,1,0
thanks a lot
zj0924
占个坑先~

[Insane]
  1. 00:08:447 (5,6) - 45的flow角度有点大,试试类似这样的
  2. 00:09:506 (3,4) - 同样的道理,渣改
  3. 00:47:977 (7,8,1) - 这样的flow尽量避免,很难受
  4. 01:09:160 (1) - 如果要用这样的反跳也应该是叠在之前出现过的圈上效果会比较好,目前的摆法一直会抢拍,虽然你用了nc但我觉得并没有什么用。叠01:08:807 (4) - 上
  5. 01:12:312 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里bass音很强依旧不建议用钝角来表达
  6. 01:20:797 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得可以放开一点,打起来很紧感觉
  7. 01:23:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这梗打起来很难受
  8. 01:32:973 (6) - 叠01:32:091 (1) - 上,会好一点...?否则678的flow...
  9. 01:41:345 (1,1) - nc分梗?
  10. 01:42:305 (1,2,3,4) - 由于前面的更我觉得这里用连打串会更好
  11. 02:12:667 (7,8,1) - 这flow直的难受..
  12. 02:17:785 (4,5,6) - 太难打了这大钝角,而且距离还不一样。做个类似这样的效果会好很多
  13. 02:26:256 (4,5,6) - ^
剩下的有空就更新~
Topic Starter
liangv587

zj0924 wrote:

占个坑先~

[Insane]
  1. 00:08:447 (5,6) - 45的flow角度有点大,试试类似这样的不喜欢overlap
  2. 00:09:506 (3,4) - 同样的道理,渣改这个可以
  3. 00:47:977 (7,8,1) - 这样的flow尽量避免,很难受钝角跳并没什么不好
  4. 01:09:160 (1) - 如果要用这样的反跳也应该是叠在之前出现过的圈上效果会比较好,目前的摆法一直会抢拍,虽然你用了nc但我觉得并没有什么用。叠01:08:807 (4) - 上并不会抢拍,打图还是要听声音的,而且这里音效音量都降低了
  5. 01:12:312 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里bass音很强依旧不建议用钝角来表达
  6. 01:20:797 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得可以放开一点,打起来很紧感觉
  7. 01:23:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这梗打起来很难受
  8. 01:32:973 (6) - 叠01:32:091 (1) - 上,会好一点...?否则678的flow...单点跳还管flow
  9. 01:41:345 (1,1) - nc分梗?
  10. 01:42:305 (1,2,3,4) - 由于前面的更我觉得这里用连打串会更好
  11. 02:12:667 (7,8,1) - 这flow直的难受..
  12. 02:17:785 (4,5,6) - 太难打了这大钝角,而且距离还不一样。做个类似这样的效果会好很多
  13. 02:26:256 (4,5,6) - ^懒改了
剩下的有空就更新~
谢摸
说好的剩下的呢
Kencho
woc 有2kd
[General]
  1. 根據現在圖的走向,除了EZ以外全難度HP-1?
[Insane]
  1. 00:24:517 (2) - 由於突然減速的關係建議再加個NC

    00:53:625 (4) - ctrl+G會更好

    00:55:036 (4) - 這滑條應該ctrl+H重新放一下吧,順著方向比較好
[Hard]
  1. Nice diff
[Normal]
  1. 保持DS誤差不要超過+-0.05x

    00:23:624 (4,1) - 1.05x

    00:24:330 (1,2) - 0.93x

    01:03:507 (4,1) - 0.92x

    01:18:324 (2,3) - 1.07x

    01:40:561 (3) - 雙折返好坑,建議換成單折返

    01:50:440 (3,4) - 01:51:499 (4,1) - 02:04:550 (3,4) - 02:05:980 (1,2) - 02:06:730 (2,3) - 02:07:435 (3,4) - 02:08:120 (4,1) - DS

    排版來說沒什麼,就是感覺圓圈有點太多,不過對比EZ的話也足夠了
[Easy]
  1. 00:13:036 (1,2) - 1.06x

    00:23:624 (3,1) - 01:02:801 (4,1) - 01:03:860 (1,2) - DS

    01:03:860 (1,2,3) - 這個走向不太好

    01:09:513 (3,4) - 01:17:971 (1,2) - 01:20:444 (4,1) - 01:36:326 (1,2) - DS

    01:40:561 (3) - 不要雙折返

    01:47:617 (2,1) - 01:50:440 (2,3) - 02:07:082 (2,3) - 02:29:961 (1,2) - DS
美麗
meii18
Hello! Old M4M

[Easy]
  1. I would like to use 1.1x or 1.2x spacing to avoid the overlaps in my opinion
  2. 00:27:153(1,2)- This pattern doesn't look really good in my opinion.You can re-arrange the pattern like here but then you have to move some objects to avoid spacing issues
  3. 00:31:389(1,2)- On this note there are not the reset of the vocals as I can hear the music plus the vocals.The NC must be on the next note I mean on 00:33:154(2)- because the reset of the vocals are on 00:32:801- but there's slider's tail and on this note would be good to emphasize the reset of the vocals so I suggest to remove the NC from 00:31:389(1)- and add it on 00:33:154(2)-
  4. 00:35:272- Here's a noticeable beat and seems that it's kind of strong beat.A note would be good here to emphasize this stronger beat
  5. 00:37:389(1)- Here you have to remove the NC since there aren't reset of the vocals and add the NC on 00:38:448(3)- instead
  6. 00:49:742(3,4)- Spacing issue
  7. 01:04:540(2,3)- The flow seems to be odd here since the direction of 01:04:540(2)- feels it's like that it goes to left but the next note is on right part so I suggest to make ctrl+H here to improve the flow between these notes
  8. 01:09:513(1)- I guess you forgot to add the NC since there are the reset of the vocals as I can see
  9. 01:11:261- Another noticeable and also strong beat.To emphasize it instead leaving it empty,you can add a note here
  10. 02:28:550(3,4)- Honestly saying,this rhythm seems pretty weird to me because the vocal is saying only one time that lyric and starting this tick with the next slider's head instead having there a note would be good.Also you have to snap the slider back to 1/1 if you will move it to 02:28:550- and then the note must be on 02:29:609- because there's a strong beat and it will feel empty then if there will not be a note or something to emphasize that strong beat
    I suggest to take a look again at NCs.Some of them are added where are not the reset of the vocals


[Hard]
  1. 01:08:012(4,5)- On 00:11:360(4,5)- you used 1.6x spacing but here you used kind of 1.5x spacing.I suggest to use the same spacing as you did at 01:08:012(4,5)- but you need here 1.3x spacing to have the same spacing like 01:08:012(4,5)-
    01:08:807(8,1)- Here there's a little break between these notes and you used the same spacing but seems like that it feels confusing.When I played this pattern,I missed 1 clicking it early because there was the same spacing.You have to increase the spacing of this note (1)- to avoid confusing while playing this pattern
  2. 01:31:032(1)- I don't think that changing the SV here with 0.80x would feel useful enough for following the vocals from there and also increasing the SV to 1.00 it's the same but you have just to extend the slider like here so increasing the SV to 1.00 would follow the vocals much better in my opinion that 0.80 SV


[Insane]
  1. 00:50:448(5,6,7,8)- The guitars are going to be stronger here but the notes' spacing decreased suddenly which doesn't emphasize the guitars at all.To emphasize the stronger guitars,you have to increase the spacing of the notes to give that emphasis as you did at other patterns where are the strong guitars
  2. 00:58:566(2,3)- Seems like here's is kind of overmapping because here I don't hear doublets if you listen the music carefully so you have to delete 00:58:683(3)- to avoid overmapping and also since on the purple tick (1/3 tick) there's no any sound to follow it
  3. 01:08:807(4,1)- Same issue as I said in Hard difficult
  4. 02:21:314(8,1)- The guitars are getting stronger on 02:21:491(1)- as I can see but the notes' spacing decreased suddenly so you have to increase the spacing here to emphasize the strong guitars instead decreasing them suddenly


Overall good set.Nothing to say in Normal.Some mods would be appreciated before pushing it forward and then you can call me for a recheck.
Good Luck!
Topic Starter
liangv587

ByBy wrote:

Hello! Old M4M

[Easy]
  1. I would like to use 1.1x or 1.2x spacing to avoid the overlaps in my opinion
  2. 00:27:153(1,2)- This pattern doesn't look really good in my opinion.You can re-arrange the pattern like here but then you have to move some objects to avoid spacing issues
  3. 00:31:389(1,2)- On this note there are not the reset of the vocals as I can hear the music plus the vocals.The NC must be on the next note I mean on 00:33:154(2)- because the reset of the vocals are on 00:32:801- but there's slider's tail and on this note would be good to emphasize the reset of the vocals so I suggest to remove the NC from 00:31:389(1)- and add it on 00:33:154(2)-
  4. 00:35:272- Here's a noticeable beat and seems that it's kind of strong beat.A note would be good here to emphasize this stronger beat
  5. 00:37:389(1)- Here you have to remove the NC since there aren't reset of the vocals and add the NC on 00:38:448(3)- instead
  6. 00:49:742(3,4)- Spacing issue
  7. 01:04:540(2,3)- The flow seems to be odd here since the direction of 01:04:540(2)- feels it's like that it goes to left but the next note is on right part so I suggest to make ctrl+H here to improve the flow between these notes
  8. 01:09:513(1)- I guess you forgot to add the NC since there are the reset of the vocals as I can see ok
  9. 01:11:261- Another noticeable and also strong beat.To emphasize it instead leaving it empty,you can add a note here
  10. 02:28:550(3,4)- Honestly saying,this rhythm seems pretty weird to me because the vocal is saying only one time that lyric and starting this tick with the next slider's head instead having there a note would be good.Also you have to snap the slider back to 1/1 if you will move it to 02:28:550- and then the note must be on 02:29:609- because there's a strong beat and it will feel empty then if there will not be a note or something to emphasize that strong beat ok
    I suggest to take a look again at NCs.Some of them are added where are not the reset of the vocals


[Hard]
  1. 01:08:012(4,5)- On 00:11:360(4,5)- you used 1.6x spacing but here you used kind of 1.5x spacing.I suggest to use the same spacing as you did at 01:08:012(4,5)- but you need here 1.3x spacing to have the same spacing like 01:08:012(4,5)-
    01:08:807(8,1)- Here there's a little break between these notes and you used the same spacing but seems like that it feels confusing.When I played this pattern,I missed 1 clicking it early because there was the same spacing.You have to increase the spacing of this note (1)- to avoid confusing while playing this pattern
  2. 01:31:032(1)- I don't think that changing the SV here with 0.80x would feel useful enough for following the vocals from there and also increasing the SV to 1.00 it's the same but you have just to extend the slider like here so increasing the SV to 1.00 would follow the vocals much better in my opinion that 0.80 SV


[Insane]
  1. 00:50:448(5,6,7,8)- The guitars are going to be stronger here but the notes' spacing decreased suddenly which doesn't emphasize the guitars at all.To emphasize the stronger guitars,you have to increase the spacing of the notes to give that emphasis as you did at other patterns where are the strong guitars
  2. 00:58:566(2,3)- Seems like here's is kind of overmapping because here I don't hear doublets if you listen the music carefully so you have to delete 00:58:683(3)- to avoid overmapping and also since on the purple tick (1/3 tick) there's no any sound to follow it
  3. 01:08:807(4,1)- Same issue as I said in Hard difficult
  4. 02:21:314(8,1)- The guitars are getting stronger on 02:21:491(1)- as I can see but the notes' spacing decreased suddenly so you have to increase the spacing here to emphasize the strong guitars instead decreasing them suddenly


Overall good set.Nothing to say in Normal.Some mods would be appreciated before pushing it forward and then you can call me for a recheck.
Good Luck!
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Topic Starter
liangv587

Kencho wrote:

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[General]
  1. 根據現在圖的走向,除了EZ以外全難度HP-1?
[Insane]
  1. 00:24:517 (2) - 由於突然減速的關係建議再加個NC 可以反应过来的

    00:53:625 (4) - ctrl+G會更好 ok

    00:55:036 (4) - 這滑條應該ctrl+H重新放一下吧,順著方向比較好 ok
[Hard]
  1. Nice diff
[Normal]
  1. 保持DS誤差不要超過+-0.05x 由于timing变化,为了物件之间的间隙,变了一些ds,但是影响不大

    00:23:624 (4,1) - 1.05x

    00:24:330 (1,2) - 0.93x

    01:03:507 (4,1) - 0.92x

    01:18:324 (2,3) - 1.07x

    01:40:561 (3) - 雙折返好坑,建議換成單折返 这里不好处理,想过很多方案,这个是最好的

    01:50:440 (3,4) - 01:51:499 (4,1) - 02:04:550 (3,4) - 02:05:980 (1,2) - 02:06:730 (2,3) - 02:07:435 (3,4) - 02:08:120 (4,1) - DS

    排版來說沒什麼,就是感覺圓圈有點太多,不過對比EZ的話也足夠了
[Easy]
  1. 00:13:036 (1,2) - 1.06x

    00:23:624 (3,1) - 01:02:801 (4,1) - 01:03:860 (1,2) - DS

    01:03:860 (1,2,3) - 這個走向不太好 ok

    01:09:513 (3,4) - 01:17:971 (1,2) - 01:20:444 (4,1) - 01:36:326 (1,2) - DS

    01:40:561 (3) - 不要雙折返 这里不好处理,想过很多方案,这个是最好的

    01:47:617 (2,1) - 01:50:440 (2,3) - 02:07:082 (2,3) - 02:29:961 (1,2) - DS
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