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axschiming
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2014年7月9日 at 20:44:59

Artist: Akiyama Uni
Title: Yuukyuu no Joukikikan
Source: Touhou
Tags: Touhou Akiyama Uni th12.3 fxtz Tasofro Twilight Frontier 黄昏フロンティア zun u2 hisoutensoku Hollow Wings [Kudryavka]
BPM: 100
Filesize: 7111kb
Play Time: 01:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.36 stars, 77 notes)
  2. Hard (3 stars, 237 notes)
  3. HW's Extra (5.52 stars, 319 notes)
  4. Kudryavka's Insane (4.47 stars, 280 notes)
  5. Lunatic (4.74 stars, 339 notes)
  6. Normal (2.26 stars, 138 notes)
Download: Akiyama Uni - Yuukyuu no Joukikikan
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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TH12.3 東方非想天則 ED
悠久の蒸気機関
SB made by me
Easy
Normal
Hard
Kudryavka's Insane map by Kudryavka
Lunatic [remap]
HW's Extra map by Hollow Wings
kamisamaaa
[总体]
  1. BPM只有100用ar9很不合适
  2. note数量有点太多了 尤其是前面 怎么能全部用一个节奏一个感觉的note呢 曲子不是一样的啊
  3. 间距完全是乱的 各种小数点 看着版面很不整齐
  4. MP3文件比特率不能超过192
[具体]
  1. 00:03:770 (4) - 这个明显和前后的不一样啊 可是你这里完全一样
  2. 00:07:670 (5) - ^ 后面同样问题不指出来了
  3. 00:02:870 (1,1) - 像这种音比较重的用稍微大一些的间距 别和前后一致 比如说前面那些都用1.4X间距 这里用1.8X 就会感觉突出一些(纯属举例。PS 你这里距离一团乱啊 各种1.42 1.43 1.38什么的)
  4. 00:07:670 (5,6) - 这里什么特别的音都没有为啥要突然跳
  5. 00:13:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这里太突兀了 节奏快了一倍 然后间距和之前差不多 第一次玩读图根本反应不来
  6. 为啥两次kiai歌曲一样滑条速度不一样 第一个是1.5X后面一个是2.0X
  7. 00:23:570 (4) - 这里怎么也突然来了一个大跳额
  8. 00:31:670 (5,1) - 这里的节奏应该换成两个对称的滑条在加一个单点比较合适
  9. 00:37:670 (8) - 这里这种反向滑条就比较合适~
  10. 00:38:870 (2) - 这里用反向滑条合适的多 你可以吧这种音都换成反向 统一起来 具体感觉看下面建议吧
  11. 00:42:920 (2,3) - 这个反向就感觉和歌曲没啥关系 莫名其妙
  12. 01:07:820 (2,3) - 这两个换一下位置感觉更合适

[建议]
后面没详细指出了 因为各种问题。。。
我觉得首先你需要一个整体的想法 就是你做完这首歌的timing之后 哪里歌曲什么样子 怎么下节奏 用什么音效 什么距离 有个整体的想法
用你这个举例子 比如说第一次kiai前比较舒缓 而且节奏相对单一~我只下红白线节奏 不用蓝线 然后摆放距离都是1.2X 重音的地方下finish 距离变成1.6X 音量用40% 音效用soft 到了kiai 我听听两段kiai基本一致 然后就统一起来 两段kiai滑条速度全部变成1.5X 距离基本变成1.4X 音乐该跳的地方用2.0X 音量变成60% 音效用Normal 第一段kiai结束后那一段 感觉比开头激烈但是比kiai舒缓 所以可以取介于他们之间的值~这样一个大的框架就做好了 然后按照这个框架再去具体的下节奏啊 想排列啊什么的(当然这里面的具体数字都是随便举得。。。) 大概就是这种感觉吧 目测需要remap=L=

先说这么多额 你可以看看改改~如果remap了可以在找我看~因为这个mod里面基本没说排列问题 只是说整体大问题 :)
Topic Starter
axschiming

kamisamaaa wrote:

[总体]
  1. BPM只有100用ar9很不合适
  2. note数量有点太多了 尤其是前面 怎么能全部用一个节奏一个感觉的note呢 曲子不是一样的啊
  3. 间距完全是乱的 各种小数点 看着版面很不整齐
  4. MP3文件比特率不能超过192
[具体]
  1. 00:03:770 (4) - 这个明显和前后的不一样啊 可是你这里完全一样
  2. 00:07:670 (5) - ^ 后面同样问题不指出来了
  3. 00:02:870 (1,1) - 像这种音比较重的用稍微大一些的间距 别和前后一致 比如说前面那些都用1.4X间距 这里用1.8X 就会感觉突出一些(纯属举例。PS 你这里距离一团乱啊 各种1.42 1.43 1.38什么的)
  4. 00:07:670 (5,6) - 这里什么特别的音都没有为啥要突然跳
  5. 00:13:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这里太突兀了 节奏快了一倍 然后间距和之前差不多 第一次玩读图根本反应不来
  6. 为啥两次kiai歌曲一样滑条速度不一样 第一个是1.5X后面一个是2.0X
  7. 00:23:570 (4) - 这里怎么也突然来了一个大跳额唔猴
  8. 00:31:670 (5,1) - 这里的节奏应该换成两个对称的滑条在加一个单点比较合适唔猴
  9. 00:37:670 (8) - 这里这种反向滑条就比较合适~
  10. 00:38:870 (2) - 这里用反向滑条合适的多 你可以吧这种音都换成反向 统一起来 具体感觉看下面建议吧
  11. 00:42:920 (2,3) - 这个反向就感觉和歌曲没啥关系 莫名其妙唔猴
  12. 01:07:820 (2,3) - 这两个换一下位置感觉更合适
[建议]
后面没详细指出了 因为各种问题。。。
我觉得首先你需要一个整体的想法 就是你做完这首歌的timing之后 哪里歌曲什么样子 怎么下节奏 用什么音效 什么距离 有个整体的想法
用你这个举例子 比如说第一次kiai前比较舒缓 而且节奏相对单一~我只下红白线节奏 不用蓝线 然后摆放距离都是1.2X 重音的地方下finish 距离变成1.6X 音量用40% 音效用soft 到了kiai 我听听两段kiai基本一致 然后就统一起来 两段kiai滑条速度全部变成1.5X 距离基本变成1.4X 音乐该跳的地方用2.0X 音量变成60% 音效用Normal 第一段kiai结束后那一段 感觉比开头激烈但是比kiai舒缓 所以可以取介于他们之间的值~这样一个大的框架就做好了 然后按照这个框架再去具体的下节奏啊 想排列啊什么的(当然这里面的具体数字都是随便举得。。。) 大概就是这种感觉吧 目测需要remap=L=

先说这么多额 你可以看看改改~如果remap了可以在找我看~因为这个mod里面基本没说排列问题 只是说整体大问题 :)
因为在Q里面聊过了,所以回复简便一些-w-,总体问题已经解决了(大概,十分感谢你的MU
rinsukir
qq req
放心no more long mods from rinsukir :3

[General]
Artist: あきやま うに
总体来说进步还是挺大的
sb赞
自己看一下ai mod 检查出一些问题
最低难度的星数要低于3.24 你还要做个easy

[Normal]
开头那段节奏时紧时松不是很好吧..低难度的节奏建议跟鼓点(?)
normal的ds要全部一致 自己检查一下
00:19:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - combo太长 后面我不再提
00:23:270 (5) - 没包好 后面还有自己检查一下 我不再提
00:38:270 (3) - 柑橘可以删掉 或者移到后面的红线
00:38:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - normal里面最好不要出现连续的多个单点 很难的..
00:55:070 (1,1) - 合并成一个?
01:11:870 (5) - 缩到前面的红线 然后01:12:770加一个note?
01:27:470 (9) - 弄成一个转盘?

[Hard]
其实我觉得这个曲子完全可以做一个善良hard 没有overmap(?)的必要
边缘可以多利用一下
好多连续单点..blanket我没看 自己检查一下啦
00:16:670 (3) - 没叠好
00:29:420 (2,3) - 感觉可以换成滑条
00:30:920 (4) - 删掉?
00:33:620 (2,4) - ^
00:38:120 (7) - ^
01:11:870 (1) - 变速有点突然
01:18:170 (5) - 歪了
01:27:470 (5) - 弄成一个转盘?

[Lunatic]
玛德我现在看到这个难度名都有种恐惧感
边缘可以多利用一下+1
00:40:820 (5) - 为什么这里要下whistle
00:59:720 (6) - 感觉可以删掉
01:06:470 (4,5,6,7) - 这里也跳一下?
01:08:120 (4,5) - 有点难读(
01:20:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 间距太大了吧
还行 就是间距有点乱+节奏变化太突然(?)

很用心的图 加油rank阿><
goodluck~ :)

EDIT: 不小心又..
Topic Starter
axschiming

rinsukir wrote:

qq req
放心no more long mods from rinsukir :3

[General]
Artist: あきやま うに
总体来说进步还是挺大的
sb赞
自己看一下ai mod 检查出一些问题
最低难度的星数要低于3.24 你还要做个easy

[Normal]
开头那段节奏时紧时松不是很好吧..低难度的节奏建议跟鼓点(?) 稍稍改了下,不过这一段只有钢琴没鼓点哭哭哦
normal的ds要全部一致 自己检查一下
00:19:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - combo太长 后面我不再提 猴~
00:23:270 (5) - 没包好 后面还有自己检查一下 我不再提 猴~
00:38:270 (3) - 柑橘可以删掉 或者移到后面的红线 猴~,移到红线了
00:38:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - normal里面最好不要出现连续的多个单点 很难的.. 猴~,中间插了个滑条
00:55:070 (1,1) - 合并成一个? 两段琴声还是很有层次感的哦
01:11:870 (5) - 缩到前面的红线 然后01:12:770加一个note? 红线的音太轻了,而且那个note是有音的哦
01:27:470 (9) - 弄成一个转盘?让火车鸣笛当唯一的转盘吧~

[Hard]
其实我觉得这个曲子完全可以做一个善良hard 没有overmap(?)的必要 没overmap哦……kiai时鼓点其实是200BPM的
边缘可以多利用一下
好多连续单点..blanket我没看 自己检查一下啦
00:16:670 (3) - 没叠好 猴~
00:29:420 (2,3) - 感觉可以换成滑条 删了2
00:30:920 (4) - 删掉? 还是保持节奏感一致吧
00:33:620 (2,4) - ^ 猴~,这里改了下
00:38:120 (7) - ^ 保持节奏
01:11:870 (1) - 变速有点突然 猴~
01:18:170 (5) - 歪了 猴~
01:27:470 (5) - 弄成一个转盘? 同NM

[Lunatic]
玛德我现在看到这个难度名都有种恐惧感
边缘可以多利用一下+1
00:40:820 (5) - 为什么这里要下whistle 猴~
00:59:720 (6) - 感觉可以删掉 不太想删._.
01:06:470 (4,5,6,7) - 这里也跳一下? 猴~
01:08:120 (4,5) - 有点难读( 我觉得已经挺良心的……
01:20:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 间距太大了吧 恩,故意的
还行 就是间距有点乱+节奏变化太突然(?)

很用心的图 加油rank阿><
goodluck~ :)

EDIT: 不小心又..
Thank:D,终于又有人肯mod我的蠢图了哦
Hollow Wings
mark

想做ex
Topic Starter
axschiming

Hollow Wings wrote:

mark

想做ex
猴~
Syameimaru-Aya
m4m
我的mod
总体
第二段kiai结束后右下角那玩意好可怕!!

Lunatic

00:01:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 虽然是有些梗啦但我觉得还是酝酿一下比较好,听听音乐感受一下调子,调整一下DS,美观一下排列。
(九成no fix)
00:15:470 (2,3,4) - 这会是一个好感觉吗?
00:18:770 (2,3) - 两个物件对的不好看。
00:29:870 (1) - 拉的好看点
00:37:670 (8) - 滑条不好看
00:36:320 (1,2,3,4,5) - 最好不要在意之前的DS认真弄个五星
01:16:370 (3,4) - 对称一下
01:25:670 (1) - 变速的太突然让人反应不过来的

没有Lunatic该有的感觉,建议还是多感受一下map,更多的问题我也没提出来,还是多学习学习比较好。

Hard
00:03:770 (4,5,6) - 对称一下,和前面的音也不同了有点跳没啥的
00:50:870 (5) - 不好看

该怎么说,还是多看看图

Normal
Normal做的比Lunatic好是怎么回事,还是建议多看看图

Easy
……多看图
没怎么认真摸真的很抱歉,希望八月份回来能看到你的图更加好,然后我会非常卖力的去mod的 :)
IamKwaN
[General]
- Combo Colors能選幾個不是default的嗎?
- 這BG的Size不太符合標準, 4:3的話是1024*768, 16:9的話是1366*768
- 歌的位元率也是,192kpbs才符合ranking criteria

[Lunatic]
- BPM100 AR9太蛋疼 SV我覺得也太快 :o
- 00:26:270 (1,2) - 這spacing難讀耶, 我會stack
- Insane這玩兒我不懂mod 真對不起 :(

[Hard]
- AR-1 SV也太快 這歌感覺很輕鬆 根據現在的SV 趕得像追尾班車
- 00:09:470 (3) - 沒有跟00:09:170 (2)包好
- 00:09:470 (3,1) - 這flow也不太美觀 建議00:10:070 (1)的方位(352,344)
- 00:12:470 (3,4) - 這兩個slider copy and paste就好了
- 00:16:670 (3) - 這個的Prev是0.02x 嘗試把grid level開成最準確的然後調整一下位置?
- 00:17:270 (2,6) - 沒包好
- 00:18:470 (6,1) - flow
- 00:43:070 (2,3) - 沒包好
- 00:54:170 (4,5) - 我覺得(5)的位置比較莫名其妙
- 00:55:970 (4,5) - 這裡的spacing降一下比較好讀;因為現在00:56:420 (5,1)跟00:55:970 (4,5) spacing差不多,但一個是1/4 一個是1/2
- 01:13:820 - 加圓圈,感覺更順手
- 01:15:770 (3) - 轉了SV, NC?

[Normal]
- AR大於5是不能當成Normal的 這裡AR5就好
- 00:07:670 (3) - 請把這做成slider, 00:07:670 - 00:07:970.
- 00:22:070 (1) - Spacing
- 00:52:370 (1) - 不要NC
- 00:53:270 (4) - 在這裡NC
- 00:56:870 (1,1) - 後面的slider開始得太快 新手們可能不夠時間準備;能改的可能是把前面的spinner刪掉或者縮短
- 01:06:470 (4) - spacing
- 01:07:670 (2,6) - stack?
- 01:13:070 (6,1) - 沒包好
- 01:18:470 (3,4) - ^
- 01:20:270 (1,2) - 嘗試(1)包(2)會更美觀
- 01:22:070 (1) - 嘗試這樣
- 01:24:470 (6,7) - 這裡(7)copy(6)就好了
- 01:23:570 (4,7) - 這兩個stack得不好
- 01:23:870 (5) - NC
- 01:25:670 (8) - ^
- 01:27:470 (9) - ^
- 01:29:270 (1) - 縮短至01:31:070.

[Easy]
- 00:01:070 (1,2,3) - 這裡的spacing明顯不對啊
- 00:02:870 (1,2,3) - ^
- 00:43:070 (1) - 這個spinner太短了
- 00:47:870 (1) - ^
- 01:29:270 (1) - 最後的spinner跟Normal的mod一樣
這Easy我就不mod了,大體上看了看,感覺spacing在Easy裡一定要一致阿,還有就是重音的掌握做得不太好,加油嚕! 有什麼問題都能在遊戲裡找我 ;)
Topic Starter
axschiming

Syameimaru-Aya wrote:

m4m
我的mod
总体
第二段kiai结束后右下角那玩意好可怕!!那是幻想乡的高达哦

Lunatic

00:01:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 虽然是有些梗啦但我觉得还是酝酿一下比较好,听听音乐感受一下调子,调整一下DS,美观一下排列
(九成no fix)后半改了下,目测还要改改
00:15:470 (2,3,4) - 这会是一个好感觉吗?还好 不过改了改4的位置
00:18:770 (2,3) - 两个物件对的不好看。
00:29:870 (1) - 拉的好看点;w;
00:37:670 (8) - 滑条不好看我觉得不太丑啊
00:36:320 (1,2,3,4,5) - 最好不要在意之前的DS认真弄个五星猴……大概
01:16:370 (3,4) - 对称一下
01:25:670 (1) - 变速的太突然让人反应不过来的

没有Lunatic该有的感觉,建议还是多感受一下map,更多的问题我也没提出来,还是多学习学习比较好。

Hard
00:03:770 (4,5,6) - 对称一下,和前面的音也不同了有点跳没啥的猴,Hard的话还是不要大跳了
00:50:870 (5) - 不好看不太糟

该怎么说,还是多看看图

Normal
Normal做的比Lunatic好是怎么回事,还是建议多看看图

Easy
……多看图
没怎么认真摸真的很抱歉,希望八月份回来能看到你的图更加好,然后我会非常卖力的去mod的 :)
THX,其实我过了寒假也没时间了哦;w;
Topic Starter
axschiming

IamKwaN wrote:

[General]
- Combo Colors能選幾個不是default的嗎? 唔,配了下色,感觉很恶心就放弃了Orz
- 這BG的Size不太符合標準, 4:3的話是1024*768, 16:9的話是1366*768猴~
- 歌的位元率也是,192kpbs才符合ranking criteria尽快修复

[Lunatic]
- BPM100 AR9太蛋疼 SV我覺得也太快 :o
- 00:26:270 (1,2) - 這spacing難讀耶, 我會stack
- Insane這玩兒我不懂mod 真對不起 :(
那个啊,其实我是想做跳图的哦……

[Hard]
- AR-1 SV也太快 這歌感覺很輕鬆 根據現在的SV 趕得像追尾班車AR-1,但是以后或许会改回8
- 00:09:470 (3) - 沒有跟00:09:170 (2)包好猴~
- 00:09:470 (3,1) - 這flow也不太美觀 建議00:10:070 (1)的方位(352,344)选了384,344,因为还要跟下2
- 00:12:470 (3,4) - 這兩個slider copy and paste就好了猴~
- 00:16:670 (3) - 這個的Prev是0.02x 嘗試把grid level開成最準確的然後調整一下位置?OK~
- 00:17:270 (2,6) - 沒包好?OK~
- 00:18:470 (6,1) - flowOK~
- 00:43:070 (2,3) - 沒包好OK~
- 00:54:170 (4,5) - 我覺得(5)的位置比較莫名其妙OK~
- 00:55:970 (4,5) - 這裡的spacing降一下比較好讀;因為現在00:56:420 (5,1)跟00:55:970 (4,5) spacing差不多,但一個是1/4 一個是1/2OK~
- 01:13:820 - 加圓圈,感覺更順手已经过了最难的一部分了哦
- 01:15:770 (3) - 轉了SV, NC?OK~

[Normal]
- AR大於5是不能當成Normal的 這裡AR5就好OK~
- 00:07:670 (3) - 請把這做成slider, 00:07:670 - 00:07:970.感觉没必要
- 00:22:070 (1) - Spacing大概没问题……
- 00:52:370 (1) - 不要NCOK~
- 00:53:270 (4) - 在這裡NCOK~
- 00:56:870 (1,1) - 後面的slider開始得太快 新手們可能不夠時間準備;能改的可能是把前面的spinner刪掉或者縮短缩了下
- 01:06:470 (4) - spacingOK~
- 01:07:670 (2,6) - stack?OK~
- 01:13:070 (6,1) - 沒包好OK~
- 01:18:470 (3,4) - ^OK~
- 01:20:270 (1,2) - 嘗試(1)包(2)會更美觀OK~
- 01:22:070 (1) - 嘗試這樣
- 01:24:470 (6,7) - 這裡(7)copy(6)就好了 没啥必要
- 01:23:570 (4,7) - 這兩個stack得不好OK~
- 01:23:870 (5) - NCOK~
- 01:25:670 (8) - ^OK~
- 01:27:470 (9) - ^OK~
- 01:29:270 (1) - 縮短至01:31:070.OK~

[Easy]
- 00:01:070 (1,2,3) - 這裡的spacing明顯不對啊Orz,可能是今天家里来熊孩子乱搞了下
- 00:02:870 (1,2,3) - ^
- 00:43:070 (1) - 這個spinner太短了OK~
- 00:47:870 (1) - ^ 大概……可以吧
- 01:29:270 (1) - 最後的spinner跟Normal的mod一樣
這Easy我就不mod了,大體上看了看,感覺spacing在Easy裡一定要一致阿,還有就是重音的掌握做得不太好,加油嚕! 有什麼問題都能在遊戲裡找我 ;)
非常好的mod,十分感谢;w;!十分有帮助哦
Hollow Wings
[my gd]
HW's Extra
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Title:Yuukyuu no Joukikikan
TitleUnicode:Yuukyuu no Joukikikan
Artist:Akiyama Uni
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Creator:axschiming
Version:HW's Extra
Source:touhou
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[my mod]

General

  1. 总的来说我觉得你的图还有很多可以改进的地方
  2. MP3文件不能超过192kbps码率,压一下音频后重新测timing,然后resnap所有diff的obj,包括我的diff
  3. 图的sb太闪了,开启sb警告
  4. sb里的那些符文转的太快了,眼花,改成少转几圈;后面非想天则往前走的那个标题画面的sb,所有东西也都动的太快了,你也玩过th123的弄得速度差不多好了,实在把握不了可以参考一下:http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32926 这张图的最神级别sb
  5. 仅就metadata部分:
  6. combo color自定义的话可以参考一下我做的diff用的;
  7. 音效音量方面我觉得我的gd里分布的比较科学,你做的diff里部分安静的地方感觉音量有点响;
  8. titleunicode改成“悠久の蒸気機関”
  9. artistunicode改成"あきやまうに"
  10. 现在的title里“no”和“Joukikikan”中间有两个空格,去掉一个
  11. tags可以参考这些:th12.3 fxtz Tasofro Twilight Frontier 黄昏フロンティア zun u2 hisoutensoku
  12. 以上修改要在全diff进行,包括我的gd
  13. 其他:
  14. bpm100用od8大丈夫?推荐改成od7,我的ex目前也是od8,如果要改的话连着我的diff一起改一下;

Lunatic

  1. 00:13:670 (1,2,3,4) - 这几个还是不要overlap,都分开点
  2. 00:56:570 (9,1) - 同上,即使是对称也最好不要这么overlap
  3. 00:59:870 (7,1) - 和 01:01:370 (7,8) - 不应该是同样的梗么,为何nc的方式不同,统一一下
    (这种变ds梗很难做,虽然我给不出什么好的建议,不过我觉得你做的还是有点违和
  4. 01:26:870 (4,5) - 这ds相对于三单点来说太小了,还是放远比较好
  5. 怎么说呢,我个人是感觉排版有很大的提高空间的,就看你愿不愿意改了。不过我也是弱,你最好多求些mod听听别人怎么说

Hard

  1. 00:19:070 (1,2) - blanket?
  2. 00:31:970 (2,3) - 这种稍微叠到一点点的我建议还是分开,不然不好看,同理还有后面的00:35:270 (2,3,4,5) - 以及很多很多
  3. 00:32:570 (4,5) - 像这种地方你以为自己blanket好了其实完全没弄好,虽然就这样也没什么问题,就是跟你说一下
  4. 00:42:170 (7,8) - 这样叠也不是不可以,只不过你这里的话还是仔细弄一下让它们相互平行吧
  5. 01:01:370 (4,5,6) - stack
  6. 01:02:420 (2) - 这个前后ds统一一下

Normal

  1. 00:08:270 (1,2,3) - 像这种可以考虑摆成1个slider各顺逆时针转120后得到的图形,好看点
  2. 00:24:170 (4,1) - blanket
  3. 00:42:170 加个note,normal里不要有变ds的梗,00:41:570 (2,3) - 这种变ds梗在normal里肯定被bat拍死
  4. 00:44:570 (1) - 从这里开始音效音量变得太轻了,关于音效音量就如我之前所说可以参考一下我gd里的设置
  5. 01:13:070 (6,1) - blanket
  6. 01:17:270 (1,2) - 弄在一条直线上吧
  7. 01:23:570 (4,7) - stack

Easy

  1. 00:01:070 (1,2,3) - easy里更不能有这种这么大变ds梗,后面还有好多,全都改掉
    做easy的时候直接开ds摆obj就行,别搞太难
  2. 00:56:870 (1,1) - 转盘和转盘后的note靠太近,让转盘在00:58:070结束就行
噗,感觉还有待提高啊,祝早日rank

射U2一星

good luck
Topic Starter
axschiming

Hollow Wings wrote:

[my gd]
HW's Extra
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: 17. - .mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43970
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 13664,19064,24464,29864,63320
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 16

[Metadata]
Title:Yuukyuu no Joukikikan
TitleUnicode:Yuukyuu no Joukikikan
Artist:Akiyama Uni
ArtistUnicode:Akiyama Uni
Creator:axschiming
Version:HW's Extra
Source:touhou
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:133001

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2.1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"5840562.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
1070,600,3,2,1,75,1,0
1070,-100,3,2,1,45,0,0
11870,-100,3,2,1,30,0,0
13670,-100,3,2,1,40,0,0
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[my mod]

General

  1. 总的来说我觉得你的图还有很多可以改进的地方
  2. MP3文件不能超过192kbps码率,压一下音频后重新测timing,然后resnap所有diff的obj,包括我的difffix
  3. 图的sb太闪了,开启sb警告
  4. sb里的那些符文转的太快了,眼花,改成少转几圈;后面非想天则往前走的那个标题画面的sb,所有东西也都动的太快了,你也玩过th123的弄得速度差不多好了,实在把握不了可以参考一下:http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32926 这张图的最神级别sb
  5. 仅就metadata部分:
  6. combo color自定义的话可以参考一下我做的diff用的;fix
  7. 音效音量方面我觉得我的gd里分布的比较科学,你做的diff里部分安静的地方感觉音量有点响;fix,一部分,大概
  8. titleunicode改成“悠久の蒸気機関”fix
  9. artistunicode改成"あきやまうに"fix
  10. 现在的title里“no”和“Joukikikan”中间有两个空格,去掉一个[/color]fix
  11. tags可以参考这些:th12.3 fxtz Tasofro Twilight Frontier 黄昏フロンティア zun u2 hisoutensoku尽快修复
  12. 以上修改要在全diff进行,包括我的gd
  13. 其他:
  14. bpm100用od8大丈夫?推荐改成od7,我的ex目前也是od8,如果要改的话连着我的diff一起改一下;
[/color]fix

Lunatic

  1. 00:13:670 (1,2,3,4) - 这几个还是不要overlap,都分开点没有overlap啊。。。
  2. 00:56:570 (9,1) - 同上,即使是对称也最好不要这么overlapfix
  3. 00:59:870 (7,1) - 和 01:01:370 (7,8) - 不应该是同样的梗么,为何nc的方式不同,统一一下fix
    (这种变ds梗很难做,虽然我给不出什么好的建议,不过我觉得你做的还是有点违和
  4. 01:26:870 (4,5) - 这ds相对于三单点来说太小了,还是放远比较好fix
  5. 怎么说呢,我个人是感觉排版有很大的提高空间的,就看你愿不愿意改了。不过我也是弱,你最好多求些mod听听别人怎么说

Hard

  1. 00:19:070 (1,2) - blanket?fix
  2. 00:31:970 (2,3) - 这种稍微叠到一点点的我建议还是分开,不然不好看,同理还有后面的00:35:270 (2,3,4,5) - 以及很多很多fix
  3. 00:32:570 (4,5) - 像这种地方你以为自己blanket好了其实完全没弄好,虽然就这样也没什么问题,就是跟你说一下fix
  4. 00:42:170 (7,8) - 这样叠也不是不可以,只不过你这里的话还是仔细弄一下让它们相互平行吧换了种体位
  5. 01:01:370 (4,5,6) - stackfix
  6. 01:02:420 (2) - 这个前后ds统一一下fix。。。。。。。

Normal

  1. 00:08:270 (1,2,3) - 像这种可以考虑摆成1个slider各顺逆时针转120后得到的图形,好看点fix
  2. 00:24:170 (4,1) - blanketfix
  3. 00:42:170 加个note,normal里不要有变ds的梗,00:41:570 (2,3) - 这种变ds梗在normal里肯定被bat拍死fix
  4. 00:44:570 (1) - 从这里开始音效音量变得太轻了,关于音效音量就如我之前所说可以参考一下我gd里的设置
  5. 01:13:070 (6,1) - blanketfix
  6. 01:17:270 (1,2) - 弄在一条直线上吧fix
  7. 01:23:570 (4,7) - stackfix

Easy

  1. 00:01:070 (1,2,3) - easy里更不能有这种这么大变ds梗,后面还有好多,全都改掉fix
    做easy的时候直接开ds摆obj就行,别搞太难
  2. 00:56:870 (1,1) - 转盘和转盘后的note靠太近,让转盘在00:58:070结束就行fix
噗,感觉还有待提高啊,祝早日rank

射U2一星

good luck
THX,其实E和N的上面mod已经改了,但是传不上了;w;
ZZHBOY
m4req
[general]
tags加上hollow wing
我感觉低难度音效加的好奇怪啊 错觉吗
[easy]
slidertick音效有点吵的感觉 SVM1.20可能会被喷...
00:46:680 (4) - 改成1/2滑条,自己听
00:49:680 (1) - 这种可以换成一个3/2滑条 ,00:50:580 这个音也不会漏
00:51:480 (2) - ^
00:53:280 (3) - ^
01:07:380 - 漏音 这里可以和前面一样啊
01:14:880 - 这里漏音 然后01:14:580 - 这里slidertick音简直违和 建议拆开或者让slidertick在白线上
[normal]
00:16:080 (2) - 尾向外一点blanket好 低难度美观些好
00:58:680 (1,2) - blanket会美观一点._.
ri 没感觉 不会摸了
[hard]
ar9?有病?考虑一下diff spread 这和N的难度差距太大了 会死的啊 爷爷
00:04:680 (1,2,3) - 辅助旋转120°
00:29:280 (2) - 考虑加8或16分拍折返滑条 个人建议
00:32:880 (5,1) - overlap不好看
00:59:880 (4,5,6) - hard做善良一点啊
01:19:080 (2) - 形状丑 flow也不好
[lunatic]
可以od8
01:01:980 (2) - 丑 flow差 可以前一个复制然后翻转
01:03:930 - 加个note 可以加280,272 flow也好些
01:05:430 - 这种空一两个还好多了感觉违和 考虑把补上
01:08:280 (5) - 这个flow巨差 别这样摆
看完这个难度..感觉有点像hw的绯想天..难道他收你做徒弟了吗o.o应该没吧不然L的cs会+2
[ex]
cs5 咦 没看错?
od8如何?
00:16:605 - 价格note
00:38:280 (8) - 滑条向左边折flow会好些啊
01:22:980 (4) - 建议移开一点点不然会误读成一个短滑条后面接一个长滑条
啊好喜欢壕王啊把吃不忽忽❤❤
Hollow Wings

ZZHBOY wrote:

[ex]
cs5 咦 没看错?嗯,没看错
od8如何? 好的,其实我也觉得od8没什么问题
00:16:605 - 价格note 这里音多没有,柑橘没必要啊0.0
00:38:280 (8) - 滑条向左边折flow会好些啊 反向跳flow基本就不用考虑了,这边往右好些
01:22:980 (4) - 建议移开一点点不然会误读成一个短滑条后面接一个长滑条 不会的,这边一般不会读成后面接滑条的
啊好喜欢壕王啊把吃不忽忽❤❤ -,-||| 后面说的都看不懂了 [/notice]
with other changing
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29,183,59580,2,0,B|105:190|105:190|153:95,1,157.5
173,123,59880,1,0,0:0:0:0:
163,316,60030,2,0,L|50:301,1,105,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,201,60330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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365,153,60780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
462,344,60930,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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24,344,61380,1,0,0:0:0:0:
2,215,61530,2,0,L|54:191,2,52.5,0|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,63,61830,1,8,0:0:0:0:
133,179,61980,2,0,L|257:196,1,105,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,85,62280,6,0,B|492:54|492:54|457:106,1,210,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
375,220,62730,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,339,62880,2,0,L|309:229,1,105
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416,320,64080,6,0,B|439:192|439:192|413:151,1,157.5,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
385,116,64380,2,0,L|313:10,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,278,64680,2,0,B|310:233|310:233|325:166,1,105,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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238,103,65205,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,340,65580,2,0,L|480:352,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,142,65880,5,12,0:0:0:0:
60,338,66105,2,0,L|75:279,1,52.5
105,158,66330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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353,232,66780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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261,144,67230,1,8,0:0:0:0:
467,188,67380,2,0,L|351:202,1,105
128,222,67680,5,12,0:0:0:0:
356,115,67830,2,0,L|418:127,2,52.5
455,254,68130,1,0,0:0:0:0:
37,230,68280,2,0,L|142:254,1,105
24,317,68580,1,2,0:0:0:0:
84,88,68730,2,0,L|34:101,2,52.5
153,313,69030,1,8,0:0:0:0:
188,168,69180,1,2,0:0:0:0:
251,346,69330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,234,69480,5,12,0:0:0:0:
362,194,69555,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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330,115,69705,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,75,69780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
291,244,69930,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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206,20,70380,1,8,0:0:0:0:
196,60,70455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,101,70530,1,0,0:0:0:0:
175,141,70605,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,153,70680,1,0,0:0:0:0:
207,302,70830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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98,240,71280,6,0,L|154:226,1,52.5,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,203,71430,2,0,L|282:191,1,52.5
364,172,71580,1,2,0:0:0:0:
207,302,71730,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,58,71880,1,0,0:0:0:0:
429,114,72030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
82,123,72180,6,0,L|48:163,1,52.5,6|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,366,72405,2,0,L|403:325,1,52.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
277,59,72630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
229,242,72780,2,0,L|217:138,1,105,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,359,73080,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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207,129,73530,2,0,L|163:46,2,78.7500030040742
108,275,73980,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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78,162,74430,2,0,P|57:126|59:80,2,78.7500030040742
298,156,74880,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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237,84,75330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,103,75480,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,117,75630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,189,75780,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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169,276,76230,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,186,76380,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Topic Starter
axschiming

ZZHBOY wrote:

m4req
[general]
tags加上hollow wingfix
我感觉低难度音效加的好奇怪啊 错觉吗
[easy]
slidertick音效有点吵的感觉 SVM1.20可能会被喷...
00:46:680 (4) - 改成1/2滑条,自己听这样的话估计能填满红白线了啊。。。还真是EZ嘛。。。
00:49:680 (1) - 这种可以换成一个3/2滑条 ,00:50:580 这个音也不会漏^
00:51:480 (2) - ^^
00:53:280 (3) - ^^
01:07:380 - 漏音 这里可以和前面一样啊想了想你书的队
01:14:880 - 这里漏音 然后01:14:580 - 这里slidertick音简直违和 建议拆开或者让slidertick在白线上fix
[normal]
00:16:080 (2) - 尾向外一点blanket好 低难度美观些好哭哭哦看不懂
00:58:680 (1,2) - blanket会美观一点._.fix
ri 没感觉 不会摸了
[hard]
ar9?有病?考虑一下diff spread 这和N的难度差距太大了 会死的啊 爷爷爷爷我错了,大概是我手滑了
00:04:680 (1,2,3) - 辅助旋转120°fix
00:29:280 (2) - 考虑加8或16分拍折返滑条 个人建议 hard做善良一点啊
00:32:880 (5,1) - overlap不好看fix
00:59:880 (4,5,6) - hard做善良一点啊fix
01:19:080 (2) - 形状丑 flow也不好fix
[lunatic]
可以od8
01:01:980 (2) - 丑 flow差 可以前一个复制然后翻转fix
01:03:930 - 加个note 可以加280,272 flow也好些改变了下体位
01:05:430 - 这种空一两个还好多了感觉违和 考虑把补上感觉还是奇怪
01:08:280 (5) - 这个flow巨差 别这样摆 fix
看完这个难度..感觉有点像hw的绯想天..难道他收你做徒弟了吗o.o应该没吧不然L的cs会+2思考
啊好喜欢壕王啊把吃不忽忽❤❤
Topic Starter
axschiming
已上船._.
[Seraphin]
tag fix
no kd

hollow wings --> Hollow Wings
touhou --> Touhou
add tag --> Unthinkable Natural Law
sjoy
M4M
[Easy]
没啥问题
[Normal]
00:08:280 (1) - whistle
00:11:880 (3) - 头whis
00:22:080 (1) - 头CLAP
00:29:880 (1) - 头CLAP
00:40:680 (1) - CTRL+g 感觉比较顺 顺便后面也改一下位置
00:43:680 (1) - 尾巴FIN
00:50:880 (3) - WHIS
00:58:680 (1) - FIN放这里比较好 转圈就不要了
01:25:680 (1) - http://puu.sh/6w7H9.jpg
01:27:480 (1) - 延长一倍长度
[Hard]
00:05:280 (2) - 头换成CLAP
00:19:680 (2) - 感觉略蠢换成2个1/2
00:23:880 (4) - 感觉可以删,没钢琴音
00:29:880 (1) - 同理 FIN这开始,前面的删了
00:30:330 (2) - 注意间距
00:31:080 (5) - CLAP应该在尾巴感觉好点
00:34:080 (2) - CLAP 加这,1尾巴删了
00:39:780 (5) - 我觉得应该加头上
00:41:430 (4) - 间距阿 5怎么突然分那么开了 这是HARD
00:50:880 (5) - 头FIN
00:56:880 (1) --^
01:05:880 (1) - WHIS
[Lunatic]
音效参考 HARD
00:34:380 这里我觉得可以滑条表达 1/8音
00:39:180这里添个8分音3连试试
00:49:080 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得用滑条比较有连续感
01:10:680 (7) - 我觉得和 8对称一下比较好
01:19:080 (5) - CTRL+G
01:27:480 (7) - 延迟到 01:28:680
[HW's Extra]
00:04:680 (1) - 头WHIS
00:13:680 (1) - ^
00:23:280 (2) - whis
00:25:680 (9) - ^
00:27:705 (4) - http://puu.sh/6w8q1.jpg
00:34:380 (5) - http://puu.sh/6w8us.jpg这才是你的鬼畜吧
00:39:030 (2) - 这个应该是12分拍4连的注意听
00:44:880 (4) - 头WHIS
00:45:480 (7) - ^
00:52:080 (3) - ^
00:52:680 (6) - ^
00:52:680 (6) - WHIS
01:02:880 (3) - WHIS
01:07:380 (8) - whis
01:09:930 (6) - 非常变扭的一个FLOW
01:10:080 (7) - whis

最后的SB感觉我有见过阿
Topic Starter
axschiming

[Seraphin] wrote:

tag fix
no kd

hollow wings --> Hollow Wings
touhou --> Touhou
add tag --> Unthinkable Natural Law
Thank :)
Topic Starter
axschiming

sjoy wrote:

M4M
[Easy]
没啥问题
[Normal]
00:08:280 (1) - whistle fix
00:11:880 (3) - 头whis fix
00:22:080 (1) - 头CLAP fix
00:29:880 (1) - 头CLAP fix
00:40:680 (1) - CTRL+g 感觉比较顺 顺便后面也改一下位置 换了下体位
00:43:680 (1) - 尾巴FIN fix
00:50:880 (3) - WHIS fix
00:58:680 (1) - FIN放这里比较好 转圈就不要了 fix
01:25:680 (1) - http://puu.sh/6w7H9.jpg 换了下体位
01:27:480 (1) - 延长一倍长度 fix
[Hard]
00:05:280 (2) - 头换成CLAP fix
00:19:680 (2) - 感觉略蠢换成2个1/2 fix
00:23:880 (4) - 感觉可以删,没钢琴音 有音效而且做成原地的柑橘可以留
00:29:880 (1) - 同理 FIN这开始,前面的删了 fix
00:30:330 (2) - 注意间距 fix
00:31:080 (5) - CLAP应该在尾巴感觉好点 fix
00:34:080 (2) - CLAP 加这,1尾巴删了 柑橘有点怪。。
00:39:780 (5) - 我觉得应该加头上 ^
00:41:430 (4) - 间距阿 5怎么突然分那么开了 这是HARD fix
00:50:880 (5) - 头FIN fix
00:56:880 (1) --^ fix
01:05:880 (1) - WHIS fix
[Lunatic]
音效参考 HARD
00:34:380 这里我觉得可以滑条表达 1/8音 做了下发现效果不太好
00:39:180这里添个8分音3连试试
00:49:080 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得用滑条比较有连续感 我觉得琴声很独立。。
01:10:680 (7) - 我觉得和 8对称一下比较好
01:19:080 (5) - CTRL+G fix
01:27:480 (7) - 延迟到 01:28:680 fix

最后的SB感觉我有见过阿对啊对啊,参照之前那啥做来的;w;
yf_bmp
Hi, m4m


  1. Red: Be unrankable
  2. Blue: Be important
  3. Black: Suggestions
[General]
TAGS: hollow wing -> hollow wings
TAGS: ADD ( [Kudryavka] )
softfinish不太适合BGM..建议替换

[Hollow Wings]
排列大气 所以找排列有些难 选曲原因 所以找节奏有些难
这里提供些个人认为更适合这个图的风格的建议

00:29:730 (13) - 试着方向更加偏向 00:29:880 (1) - 的头
00:45:180 (5,6) - ctrl+G
00:52:680 (6) - 顺时针
00:58:380 (8,9) - 顺序调换,或者00:58:530 (9) - ctrl+g
01:04:980 (4,5,6) - (5): x:232 y:164
01:10:680 (12) - 偏了不太适合下一个接
01:10:680 (12) - ctrl+g

[Kudryavka]
00:29:880 (9,3) - 叠好
01:06:780 (5) - 出界,unrankable
01:08:880 (2) - ^

看不出什么...flow也难抓

[Lunatic]
00:35:880 (5) - 出界,unrankable
00:45:480 (5) - ^

00:59:880 (7,1) - too close 这种建议要么再远些符合spacing 要么再近些把这类梗做到位 像这样:01:04:980 (4,5) - 完全重叠也不错
01:01:380 (7,1) - ^
01:10:980 (8) - ^
01:01:680 (1,2) - 稍微排好些

从这张图种感觉到有些地方打起来会不舒服..作图时要更加关注flow才好 不光是要排着整齐美观 而且打起来也要顺才是 这里就先不在这上详细mod了 别的地方也感觉没什么问题了

[Hard]
00:29:880 (1,2) - 太近 ,看这里:00:31:080 (5,1) - 这里我觉得合适, 前面那里和这里距离一样,却是1/4,00:30:480 (3,4,5) - 看这三个已经确定好了的1/4的距离关系 前面那个就不要太近了
00:33:480 (1,2) - 太近,这个是1/4的距离,如果要做梗还得近到00:31:080 (5,1) - 这种程度差不多
00:34:680 (1,2) - ^
00:39:480 (4,5) - ^
00:59:280 (3,4,5) - 检查距离
01:01:680 (5,6) - ^
01:03:780 (7,1) - ^
01:13:380 (2,3) - ^

这种问题要关注一下

OK先mod这些了啊 改好之后可以叫我recheck下
Hollow Wings

sjoy wrote:

[HW's Extra]
看了一下后面hs mod很多,而且都是叫我加whistle。我个人加音效的话是跟着感觉走的,如果是配合打击感的话或许会有些变化,并不一定会单纯的按规律下音效,所以之后的音效我一个个看过来,如果有改的我会feedback,没写的就是不改。
00:04:680 (1) - 头WHIS
00:13:680 (1) - ^
00:23:280 (2) - whis
00:25:680 (9) - ^
我在00:25:680 (9) - 的尾上加了个whistle
00:27:705 (4) - http://puu.sh/6w8q1.jpg 两个puu链接全挂了
00:34:380 (5) - http://puu.sh/6w8us.jpg这才是你的鬼畜吧 我的鬼畜是啥啊orz,真想看看啊噗
00:39:030 (2) - 这个应该是12分拍4连的注意听 不是,这里应该是:00:39:030一个音,00:39:105一个很快的倚音,00:39:180一个音。中间那个倚音速度估计能达到32分拍,所以就并成一个好了 你同理可以听听00:40:680 (1) - 这里的音,头和尾都是两个很快的倚音,中间那个是没音的,但是这里就不太好表现了,我就直接塞了个折返。
00:44:880 (4) - 头WHIS
00:45:480 (7) - ^
00:52:080 (3) - ^
00:52:680 (6) - ^
00:52:680 (6) - WHIS
01:02:880 (3) - WHIS 这里加了
01:07:380 (8) - whis 这里加了
01:09:930 (6) - 非常变扭的一个FLOW 这里主要是强调定位跳,flow很坏确实,不过不要紧(其实我打起来完全没问题,叫了几个tester触手基本都fc了,水平差一点的这里全接的也有
01:10:080 (7) - whis 这里加了
thx for modding!

yf_bmp wrote:

[General]
softfinish不太适合BGM..建议替换 个人觉得其实还好,如果换音效的话估计音效又要重新做过orz

[Hollow Wings]
排列大气 所以找排列有些难 选曲原因 所以找节奏有些难
这里提供些个人认为更适合这个图的风格的建议

00:29:730 (13) - 试着方向更加偏向 00:29:880 (1) - 的头 可以,我把它们搞平行了
00:45:180 (5,6) - ctrl+G 嗯,我对这边的pattern都不太满意,全部推翻重做了一下
00:52:680 (6) - 顺时针 这个不好
00:58:380 (8,9) - 顺序调换,或者00:58:530 (9) - ctrl+g 故意的,不改
01:04:980 (4,5,6) - (5): x:232 y:164 故意的,不改
01:10:680 (12) - 偏了不太适合下一个接 这里的pattern我改了
01:10:680 (12) - ctrl+g ??
thx for modding!

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251,346,69330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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314,75,69780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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196,60,70455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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207,302,71730,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,60,71880,1,0,0:0:0:0:
429,114,72030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
82,123,72180,6,0,L|48:163,1,52.5,6|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,366,72405,2,0,L|403:325,1,52.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
277,59,72630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
229,242,72780,2,0,L|217:138,1,105,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,359,73080,5,6,0:0:0:0:
327,217,73230,2,0,P|323:256|310:293,1,78.7500030040742
207,129,73530,2,0,L|163:46,2,78.7500030040742
108,275,73980,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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78,162,74430,2,0,P|57:126|59:80,2,78.7500030040742
298,156,74880,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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330,103,75480,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,117,75630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,189,75780,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,186,76380,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,281,76530,1,0,0:0:0:0:
209,365,76680,6,0,L|225:261,1,78.7500030040742
238,192,76980,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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377,283,77580,2,0,B|350:255|350:255|303:245,1,78.7500030040742,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
165,59,77880,2,0,B|154:96|154:96|168:141,1,78.7500030040742
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476,201,78780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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187,201,81330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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[Kudryavka]

yf_bmp wrote:

Hi, m4m


  1. Red: Be unrankable
  2. Blue: Be important
  3. Black: Suggestions
[Kudryavka]
00:29:880 (9,3) - 叠好 fixed
01:06:780 (5) - 出界,unrankable fixed
01:08:880 (2) - ^ fixed
看不出什么...flow也难抓 flow难抓是指要重做flow吗
thanks for modding :)
Topic Starter
axschiming

yf_bmp wrote:

Hi, m4m


  1. Red: Be unrankable
  2. Blue: Be important
  3. Black: Suggestions
[General]
TAGS: hollow wing -> hollow wingsfix
TAGS: ADD ( [Kudryavka] )fix
softfinish不太适合BGM..建议替换招募中……话说上次找你的时候不是书用默认的就好了嘛……

[Lunatic]
00:35:880 (5) - 出界,unrankable
00:45:480 (5) - ^[/color]fix
00:59:880 (7,1) - too close 这种建议要么再远些符合spacing 要么再近些把这类梗做到位 像这样:01:04:980 (4,5) - 完全重叠也不错fix
01:01:380 (7,1) - ^fix
01:10:980 (8) - ^fix
01:01:680 (1,2) - 稍微排好些fix

从这张图种感觉到有些地方打起来会不舒服..作图时要更加关注flow才好 不光是要排着整齐美观 而且打起来也要顺才是 这里就先不在这上详细mod了 别的地方也感觉没什么问题了恩,,

[Hard]
00:29:880 (1,2) - 太近 ,看这里:00:31:080 (5,1) - 这里我觉得合适, 前面那里和这里距离一样,却是1/4,00:30:480 (3,4,5) - 看这三个已经确定好了的1/4的距离关系 前面那个就不要太近了fix
00:33:480 (1,2) - 太近,这个是1/4的距离,如果要做梗还得近到00:31:080 (5,1) - 这种程度差不多fix
00:34:680 (1,2) - ^fix
00:39:480 (4,5) - ^fix
00:59:280 (3,4,5) - 检查距离fix
01:01:680 (5,6) - ^fix
01:03:780 (7,1) - ^fix
01:13:380 (2,3) - ^fix

这种问题要关注一下

OK先mod这些了啊 改好之后可以叫我recheck下
All fix!
Spring Roll
hello,mod from m4m.

General

  1. 把tag和source统一一下

Easy

  1. 00:04:680 (3) - 往上转一点别和1重叠
  2. 00:13:680 - 低难度里没用的绿线建议删掉
  3. 01:16:380 - 这里一堆也是
  4. 00:23:880 (3) - 这个滑条,形状弄成上下对称的会比较好看
  5. 01:02:880 (2) -
  6. 01:06:480 (2,3) - 拉开一点别重叠
  7. 01:13:980 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - 节奏不太好,感觉作为EZ不如直接一路无脑1/1下来合适

Normal

  1. 还是没用的绿线都没删
  2. 01:26:280 - 01:27:180 - clap
  3. 00:22:680 (2) -
  4. 00:50:880 (3) - 这个whistle是不小心加上去的么,如果不是建议所有类似节奏上都放whistle统一点,比如00:47:280 (3) - 00:52:680 (4) -

Hard

  1. 00:01:080 (1,2) - 开头的两个建议改成一个滑条
  2. 00:19:080 (1,2) - 要么叠起来要么间距正常点
  3. 00:20:280 (3,5) - 这两个可以很好地blanket,不要重叠
  4. 00:29:880 (1,2,3) - 间距啊 这梗放insane都有点坑了
  5. 00:31:080 (5,1) - 间距,hard的话偶尔有点小跳,大部分都开DS比较好
  6. 00:36:630 (1,2,3) - 有很多这样子的地方,其实打起来很反人类,可以考虑00:41:130 (2,3,4) - 这里的排列
  7. 总体讲比一般的hard要难,还是建议remap一个简单点的,毕竟已经有两个insane和一个EX了,hard还是这么难队新人不友好

Kudryavka's Insane

  1. 00:40:680 (3,4) - 连打是不是多了两个,感觉怪怪的,
  2. 01:25:680 (2) - NC,吧前面那个NC去了
  3. 00:43:080 (1) - 改成1/4滑条,连打从00:43:380 - 这里开始
  4. 01:19:380 - finish去掉

Lunatic

  1. 单点好像有点多,有的地方可以适当用一用滑条和单点的组合
  2. 00:34:980 (4,1) - 有点坑哦
  3. 00:35:880 (5,6) - 反人类,可以吧6换成二连加滑条,后面那个1删了
  4. 01:12:780 - 加个1/4滑条

HW's EX

  1. 00:27:630 (4,5) - 换成和之前一样的吧00:03:705 (3,4) -
    爷爷 磨不动,至今没涉足过鬼畜也不知道评判鬼畜好坏的标准如何,就先这样吧

GL ,hope this helps
Topic Starter
axschiming

Spring Roll wrote:

hello,mod from m4m.

General

  1. 把tag和source统一一下

Easy

  1. 00:04:680 (3) - 往上转一点别和1重叠fix
  2. 00:13:680 - 低难度里没用的绿线建议删掉fix
  3. 01:16:380 - 这里一堆也是fix
  4. 00:23:880 (3) - 这个滑条,形状弄成上下对称的会比较好看fix
  5. 01:02:880 (2) - fix
  6. 01:06:480 (2,3) - 拉开一点别重叠fix
  7. 01:13:980 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - 节奏不太好,感觉作为EZ不如直接一路无脑1/1下来合适fix,改了下,虽然没完全照你的改0 0

Normal

  1. 还是没用的绿线都没删fix
  2. 01:26:280 - 01:27:180 - clap这一段想了下因为跟着音乐所以只放finish了
  3. 00:22:680 (2) - fix
  4. 00:50:880 (3) - 这个whistle是不小心加上去的么,如果不是建议所有类似节奏上都放whistle统一点,比如00:47:280 (3) - 00:52:680 (4) -
fix,手滑了;w;

Hard

  1. 00:01:080 (1,2) - 开头的两个建议改成一个滑条
  2. 00:19:080 (1,2) - 要么叠起来要么间距正常点fix
  3. 00:20:280 (3,5) - 这两个可以很好地blanket,不要重叠fix
  4. 00:29:880 (1,2,3) - 间距啊 这梗放insane都有点坑了还是稍微缩了下,但是感觉还是差不多的说。。
  5. 00:31:080 (5,1) - 间距,hard的话偶尔有点小跳,大部分都开DS比较好梗。。
  6. 00:36:630 (1,2,3) - 有很多这样子的地方,其实打起来很反人类,可以考虑00:41:130 (2,3,4) - 这里的排列哭哭哦这些其实我考虑了好久,最后还是做成这样了;w;
  7. 总体讲比一般的hard要难,还是建议remap一个简单点的,毕竟已经有两个insane和一个EX了,hard还是这么难队新人不友好
关于remap我先保留下意见吧~,主要是不舍得这排列哦;w;,如果太多人说难的话我再重新做一张吧。。其实我觉得这个确实能当insane-了233

Lunatic

  1. 单点好像有点多,有的地方可以适当用一用滑条和单点的组合
  2. 00:34:980 (4,1) - 有点坑哦还好啦。。。
  3. 00:35:880 (5,6) - 反人类,可以吧6换成二连加滑条,后面那个1删了我改成了三连,后面一个空拍0 0
  4. 01:12:780 - 加个1/4滑条试了下,有点奇怪。。删了


GL ,hope this helps
十分感谢 :)
- TiRaFiouS -
BPM=200
我手測是這樣....我所有圖都是手測的
所以錯一起錯吧((炸毛
然後

表示先改我再摸
再不你不改,再有圖我下次給你摸2張\\

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smallboat
hi.

[L2]

00:08:902 (3,4) - 為什麼不跟旁邊note同距? 偏偏就只有兩個stack有點奇怪。
00:14:902 (5,6) - 太近了,要擺遠一點才不會誤讀。
00:32:602 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - 或許之間能來個跳之類的(5到6真心不順)
00:33:802 (2,3) - ^
00:39:202 (4,5,6) - 這幾個應該是同間距的,怎麼4到5會有個跳。
00:44:302 (7,1) - 也是不順。
01:00:202 (7,1) - ^ (01:00:502 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 另外也說一下這flow走向,01:00:952 (4,5) - flow就突然往右走,有點難拿捏接下來的走向,)
01:03:802 (11,12,1) - 像這個也是屬於銳角度數很小的flow,通常這種flow都有點難點擊。(尤其12到1,也是不順。)
01:09:802 (6) - 為何跟上下連打間距差這麼小?沒看過ins放這麼小間距的。
01:14:002 (3) - 聽音樂還可以再跳一點間距。
01:16:402 (3) - Ctrl+g?
01:24:802 (2,3,4) - 明明節奏間距一樣,為何位置放不同的間距?(尤其34,不如就234放anti-jump.)

質量我覺得勉強還可以吧,只是彼此間距小了點,需要改善。
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