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Darksonic

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Darksonic 2014-02-21T03:08:17+00:00

[Navy] wrote:
[Normal]

00:05:303 (3,4) - change rhythm? (add reverse in (3) instead of (4) ) Nah, it ends up being the same.

00:11:121 (2) - erase? Hmm I don't see why.

[Insane]

00:12:757 (2) - how about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/73vK7.jpg A triplet here won't be following the music, try listening this part carefully.

00:52:030 (1) - I think new combo more fits at 00:52:212 (2) Vocal changes here, so no.

No changes for me, but thanks for modding and star!

Chewin wrote:
MòèSònìc <3 <3

Normal

00:12:575 (4) - I think curved slider like: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1352018 would flow better here I agree.
00:18:939 (4) - Add whistle on the tail Sure.
00:20:212 (1) - Clap for consistency with 00:14:393 (1) But 00:14.393 (1) - doesn't have a clap, lol.
00:26:030 (3) - You could use some whistles here to emphasize the vocal rhythm. Add whistle on the head and on the tail of this slider, and do the same for 00:28:939 (4), 00:37:666 (3), 00:40:575 (3) - as well. It actually looks so empty w/o hitsounds IMO Okay.
01:03:484 (1) - Whistle on reverse? Same for this circle if you add it, for consistency: 01:15:484 (3) Hmm it won't be following anything, so no.
Insane

00:07:121 (4) - New vocal = new combo Ok.
00:17:848 (3,4) - This sliders completely ruin the flow you created. If you want to keep them straight than place them in this way, it's muuuch better: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1352061 In this case I prefer to keep it, since I think your suggestion won't change flow too much tbh.
00:18:575 (1) - If you follow my suggestion above about those two sliders, it'd be better to change this slider shape as well to make the part more flowing. You could move the 00:19:121 (2), make the 00:18:575 (1) and the 00:19:303 (3) in this way: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1352066 Nothing to do here I guess.
00:31:121 (3) - Whistle on the head I'm using Whistles to follow music here instead vocals, so a Whistle wouldn't fit.
00:55:484 (2) - I think this circle is played bad there. Maybe stack it with 00:54:575 (4)? Nooo, this circle stars a star pattern.
That's all :3 Sorry for the bad mod, I haven't modded for months D: Baka, actually your mod was pretty helpful! ^^

Thank you prowin <3

And changed some stuff on Hard diff as well.

Garven

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Garven 2014-02-21T14:55:46+00:00

[Navy] wrote:
[Garven's Easy]

00:10:030 (1,2,3) - for (3)'s location, move (1) to (408,352, (2) to (284,32) and (3) to (256,192)

This adds some crazy overlap. No thanks.

00:34:757 (2,3,4) - eraze and copy (1) The rhythm gets boring then. :<

00:53:666 (1,2) - I think this sliders need reverse for better rhythm
Nah, I wanted to keep the rhythm changing a bit, but still fairly easy.

I think this notes are hard in terms of Easy

00:24:939 (1,2,3,4) - how about zigzag Nah, a curve feels better

01:03:848 (3,4,5,6) - change 2 notes to slider? Nah, it wouldn't feel the same.

01:09:666 (2,3,4,5)

01:15:121 (2,3,4,5,6)

Thanks for the look!

Chewin wrote:
MòèSònìc <3 Garven <3 ;_;

Garven's Easy

00:13:121 (1) - You clearly mapped this spinner following the vocal sound. I think that this finish on the spinner is actually too loud and it doesn't fit that well honestly. I think it'd be more enjoyable to hear if you decided to decrease its volume till 50% at least. Changed to a normal finish. I want some large hit on the end of such a long spinner.
00:23:121 (1) - There should be a soft finish here to keep consistency with 00:13:121 (1)'s end. Obviously my suggestion above is the same for this circle as well. The consecutive drum hitsounds feel better compared to the lone sound of the finish before.
00:42:030 (1,2) - Actually I think it'd be more logical if you decided to remove the new combo from (1) adding it on the (2) instead. It fills better for three reasons: 1) It would mh.. I don't know how to say, "fill" better the finish hitsound; 2)New vocal rhythm starts here; 3) The pattern 00:42:757 (2,3,4) is symmetric and starting the combo on the slider 00:42:757 (2) would fit much better IMO. This one was tricky since it actually used to be spilt up as two combos, but considering the length of the vocal parts here, it was suggested to extend them. I agreed, but now the two sets of two hit objects are four. I'll take the suggestion though, since it fits my progression prior now that the shorter combos are gone.
01:25:848 - Spinner would be pretty cool here. It'd be also consistent with other diffs. Add it here or remove the (2) adding it there. No forced end spinner plz thx. Maybe if the song felt like it really should have a longer fade out, but for now it's just too short and lame sounding. Don't want to map to that.

Sank ya!

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Title:Parallel Hearts (TV Size)
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Creator:Darksonic
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Source:Pandora Hearts
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Darksonic

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Darksonic 2014-02-21T23:51:43+00:00

Updated everything.

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 2014-02-23T00:00:46+00:00

M4M from ur queue, hope this helps

[Insane]
00:06:030 (2,3) - I don't really think it makes sense to stack here. I'm not sure why either lol >_<, just this descending part in the music feels better if the mouse was constantly moving.
00:10:757 (1) - ctrl + g this maybe?
01:24:575 (2) - ^
00:19:303 (3) - (nazi) i think looks slightly better if you move the middle slider point 1 grid to the left
00:40:575 (1,2) - the flow is a bit weird here. at of now, you kinda have to move your mouse like this and its a bit awkward

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01:20:575 (3) - maybe if you ctrl + g this and 01:20:939 (4)
01:24:939 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - maybe blanket this stream around 01:23:848 (5)?
00:25:303 (3,4,1) - why not space these out evenly? (move (1) or (4) 1 grid to the left)
00:45:666 (3,4) - i suggest (select both) and move to x180 y92

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[Verdi's Hard]
During the first kiai time, i think finish sounds are a bit overused tbh. Also, why is there a kiai time here in this difficulty and not on other difficulties?
00:21:848 - i recommend having a 1/2 reversed slider here the space there just feels a bit empty since there is such a loud sound playing in the background
00:30:212 - this seems like a bit of a weird time to change slider velocities Oo, the song didn't really speed up and music didn't really change alot
00:49:303 (5,6,7) - am i the only one that thinks the normal whistles sound weird here? owo
01:15:484 (4,5,1) - i think this circle pattern or w/e here can use some work lol, ~~try to get them symmetrical,.. or w/e u call it~~. Edit: i meant making the spacing between the sliders more consistent. fk it ill just draw a diagram to help explain. maybe using grid level 4 would help

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also, it might just be me but i think you need to find some better hitsounds for this song lol xD

[Normal]
also when you have the slider tick hitclaps, they sound louder than the normal ones. not sure how to fix this though :/
00:10:030 (1,2,3) - (very very nazi) spacing here is SLIGHTLY inconsistent
01:02:757 (2,3,1) - a bit awkward flow here
01:20:939 (2,4) - u can stack this better i think
01:21:303 (3,4) - consider a blanket?

[Garven's Easy]
00:11:484 (2,3) - this overlap is just... well first i think you should avoid overlaps in an easy difficulty in general, but this one is kinda.. bad
00:42:757 (1) - don't think this finish fits here, since if you put one here, it feels like you need to put one on (2) as well. for me anyway
Edit: also i think you should avoid having too many circles consecutively in an easy difficulty. i think yours should be fine though. not sure, just had someone tell me this

And that's all i got, hope its helpful enough for u to mod my map lol.

Last edited by Kibbleru 2014-02-23T07:57:25+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Garven

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Garven 2014-02-23T00:21:16+00:00

The hell, that slider shouldn't be there.

336,304,11484,2,0,B|296:344|216:344|216:344|

I like the finish. I'm weird. q:

As to the consecutive circles, I think it's fair for the kiai section. Gotta ramp it up a bit for the powerful part of the song.

Fionana

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Fionana 2014-02-23T07:48:23+00:00

Hi!!!!!

[Insane]

00:13:848 (4) - I'd rather make a jump at 00:14:393 (1)- to replace here because of the NC.
00:21:848 (2,3) - it'd be better if they are not overlapped imo. Not way too flow because you didn't overlap 00:21:303 (4,1) - which goes before 2,3.
00:22:393 (4,5) - ctrl+g
00:34:757 (1) - make a reversed slider would be awesome.
01:19:484 (5) - ctrl+g
01:20:575 (3) - ^
01:20:939 (4) - ^

like the way you map!

[Hard]

AR+1
00:14:939 (2)- http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1360131 the rhythm is fluent enough so try to make it reversed instead of a slider?
00:15:484 (3) - remove
01:24:212 (3,4) - the spacing's kinda far from each other imo..
00:58:757 (4) - make it extend to 00:59:393 -

Easy, Normal all fine.

Nice map ;3

Darksonic

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Darksonic 2014-02-24T03:41:53+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
[Insane]
00:06:030 (2,3) - I don't really think it makes sense to stack here. I'm not sure why either lol >_<, just this descending part in the music feels better if the mouse was constantly moving. This part is pretty slow so I guess it's not a problem.
00:10:757 (1) - ctrl + g this maybe? Nah, breaks the pattern.
01:24:575 (2) - ^ Makes the end too easy.
00:19:303 (3) - (nazi) i think looks slightly better if you move the middle slider point 1 grid to the left It would be almost touching (1) and that seems bad, so I'll keep it.
00:40:575 (1,2) - the flow is a bit weird here. at of now, you kinda have to move your mouse like this and its a bit awkward I can't see that puush x.x
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01:20:575 (3) - maybe if you ctrl + g this and 01:20:939 (4) Not a bad suggestion but ruins a bit the flow on the next pattern.
01:24:939 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - maybe blanket this stream around 01:23:848 (5)? I did already lol.
00:25:303 (3,4,1) - why not space these out evenly? (move (1) or (4) 1 grid to the left) Ok.
00:45:666 (3,4) - i suggest (select both) and move to x180 y92 Ugh no, that makes it really boring.
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[Normal]
also when you have the slider tick hitclaps, they sound louder than the normal ones. not sure how to fix this though :/ Neither do I.
00:10:030 (1,2,3) - (very very nazi) spacing here is SLIGHTLY inconsistent It's made on purpose, because SV increases here.
01:02:757 (2,3,1) - a bit awkward flow here I don't see why, and won't change it if you haven't a suggestion for me, sorry.
01:20:939 (2,4) - u can stack this better i think Fixed.
01:21:303 (3,4) - consider a blanket? This is a blanket.

Fionana wrote:
[Insane]
00:13:848 (4) - I'd rather make a jump at 00:14:393 (1)- to replace here because of the NC. Sure.
00:21:848 (2,3) - it'd be better if they are not overlapped imo. Not way too flow because you didn't overlap 00:21:303 (4,1) - which goes before 2,3. Changed.
00:22:393 (4,5) - ctrl+g Ok.
00:34:757 (1) - make a reversed slider would be awesome. I prefer to follow a piano sound here instead.
01:19:484 (5) - ctrl+g Ok.
01:20:575 (3) - ^ Answered this in the previous mod.
01:20:939 (4) - ^ ^
like the way you map! Thanks :3

Thanks for modding guys! All updated.

ritsu-tanaika

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ritsu-tanaika 2014-02-24T12:28:51+00:00

M4M

GARVEN"S EASY

00:21:121 (x) - Suggest adding a note here because I hear a rather strong drum beat in the background, so I think it would be necessary

00:39:848 (2) - Suggest moving to (176,96) to make a triangular pattern

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00:42:030 (5) - If you follow above, stack this on top of 00:39:848 (2) -

00:47:121 (3) - Move slightly lower to (256,8) so that it wont be so off-screen to the top

01:15:121 (1) - Suggest to NC this so that the pentagon pattern is more clear in a different color

NORMAL

00:14:393 (1) - suggest adding a finish at the start of the slider to signify a strong note

01:15:121 (2) - Move slightly up to (256,224) to avoid the minor overlap with 01:13:666 (4) - as it hasnt completely disappeared yet

HARD

00:33:848 (3) - is the whistle for the whole slider intentional? Sounds a bit weird in my opinion

01:08:212 (1) - Pattern might be better if this was the same shape as 01:08:939 (2) - , except Ctrl + J (in the same location)

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01:24:212 (3,4) - To me, the jump between these notes is quite large, even for Hard.

Here's just another solution I could suggest, but you dont have to follow.

1. Move both (4 and 5) to (192,160) so that they're stacked
2. Keep 01:24:939 (6) - in the same location but only Ctrl + G
3. Keep 01:25:666 (7) - stacked on the tail of (6)

Step 1:

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Step 2 and 3:

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INSANE

00:38:939 (8) - Might be a bit confusing to stack it on the tail at a 1/2 note interval. Suggest moving to (444,108) to make a big triangle jump

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01:23:484 (3,4) - Think the order of notes would flow better if these two were swapped

Hope I helped

Garven

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Garven 2014-02-25T03:39:00+00:00

ritsu-tanaika wrote:
GARVEN"S EASY

00:21:121 (x) - Suggest adding a note here because I hear a rather strong drum beat in the background, so I think it would be necessary

Kind of breaks the general pace of that part if I add another note.

00:39:848 (2) - Suggest moving to (176,96) to make a triangular pattern

I made it more curved instead. Flows better.

00:47:121 (3) - Move slightly lower to (256,8) so that it wont be so off-screen to the top

It's not off-screen though...

01:15:121 (1) - Suggest to NC this so that the pentagon pattern is more clear in a different color

That breaks my new combo rhythm. I keep it with the musical grouping (every two measuresish).

Thanks!

SPOILER

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Rizia

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Joined January 2012

Rizia 2014-02-25T10:32:17+00:00

[Normal
00:14:393 - finish
00:17:303 (1) - ^
00:20:212 - ^
00:23:121 (1) - ^
00:34:030 (2) - whistle
00:37:666 (3) - last node ->x368 y264

01:00:939 - whistle
01:12:575 (2) - ^
01:15:484 (3) - ^

[Hard]
01:23:484 (1,2) - and 01:24:212 (3,4) - seem same DS, i think it's hard to read here ._."

Good map ><~
and star><~
hope helpful

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2014-02-25T15:02:41+00:00

I will lost powerin half of hour. mod will come tomorrow. hope it's okay=L=

Darksonic

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Topic Starter

Darksonic 2014-02-25T20:45:23+00:00

kamisamaaa wrote:
I will lost powerin half of hour. mod will come tomorrow. hope it's okay=L=

It's fine unless someone steal you the slot on my queue :p

ritsu-tanaika wrote:
NORMAL

00:14:393 (1) - suggest adding a finish at the start of the slider to signify a strong note I can hear guitars only here, finish fits better with cymbals only imo.

01:15:121 (2) - Move slightly up to (256,224) to avoid the minor overlap with 01:13:666 (4) - as it hasnt completely disappeared yet Hmm this is not a big issue, also that's note is 1,5 seconds behind, so this won't be confusing or something.

INSANE

00:38:939 (8) - Might be a bit confusing to stack it on the tail at a 1/2 note interval. Suggest moving to (444,108) to make a big triangle jump If I do that spacing will be a bit confusing, because it's like minimal spacing, a big one and then a minimal one again, like that seems a bit ugly.

SPOILER

01:23:484 (3,4) - Think the order of notes would flow better if these two were swapped Flows the same.

Kawaiwkyik wrote:
[Normal
00:14:393 - finish Answered this on the previous mod.
00:17:303 (1) - ^ Same here.
00:20:212 - ^ ^
00:23:121 (1) - ^ ^
00:34:030 (2) - whistle I can't hear anything that worth adding a Whistle here.
00:37:666 (3) - last node ->x368 y264 No lol, you are ruining it like that.

01:00:939 - whistle Ohh forgot this one, added.
01:12:575 (2) - ^ ^
01:15:484 (3) - ^ Not here, wouldn't be following anything.

Thanks a lot for modding guys ^^, so bad I almost didn't change anything, so maybe it's time for me to get a BAT.

Edd

57 posts

Joined February 2012

Edd 2014-02-25T22:28:19+00:00

Here for an M4M with any luck.

Insane

I kinda like my hitsounds, here's a list of changes I think you should make.
00:35:303 (2) - Add whistle.
00:43:484 (4) - Add whistle.
00:44:212 (7) - Add whistle start of slider, drum clap at the end. The song is building up again so a short tom fill helps push it nicely.
00:46:757 (3) - Add clap at start, add drum clap at end.
00:46:757 (3) - Changing these to auto claps fits the drum fill here better.
00:58:757 (1,2) - Drum claps.
00:58:939 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Auto claps, also consider turning the volume down of that fill to about 50% if you make those changes too.
01:24:939 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Same as above.

00:22:030 (3,4) - The jump feels odd seeing as the violin maintains the same pitch. Perhaps stack the (4) on 00:23:121 (1) - and then stack the other parts of the triangles on the other sliders they end up near?

Rest of the map seems fine.

Hard

Same as above, hitsounds first.
00:01:303 (2) - Remove the drum hitsound at the end of the slider, the taps you get from them feel unnatural considering the acousticyness of the song at this point in time.
00:02:757 (2) - Same as above and so on with the other sliders like this.
00:15:484 (3) - Change to a normal hitsound to give a snare.
00:20:575 (2) - ^
00:22:030 (5) - ^
00:21:484 (4) - Normal/drum cymbal like 00:14:939 (2) -
00:23:121 (1) - Normal snare at end of slider.
00:58:757 (4) - Drum finishes for the first 2 and the end, fill rest with the normal snare thing.
01:04:212 (2) - Normal clap, highlighting every other snare is fine, I would just try to be consistent at least throughout this passage.
01:07:121 (5) - ^
01:08:212 (1) - ^ at end of slider.
01:09:666 (3) - Remove the cymbal and add normal snare at the end.
01:10:393 (4) - Consider changing the cymbals to snares as above.
01:11:121 (1) - The claps and whistles are a little all over the place and mostly on the weaker beats right now for the whole of the kiai. Just either have the claps follow the snare drum more closely or get rid of the claps and whistles completely.

00:19:121 (3,4,1,2,3) - Whilst I probably went super derp, even I managed to fail at this pattern. The different speeds of both these stacks make it confusing and I would go for unstacking the last three circles here.
00:23:666 (2,3,4,5,6) - Not a huge fan of the stack but nothing particularly wrong, just voicing opinion. :/
01:01:484 (5,6) - I would ctrl-g (6), doesn't feel as if there should be a jump here.
01:24:212 (3,4,5) - Monster jump yet all the the emphasis in your hitsounds is put on (5), I'd make (4)-(5) jumpy and distance snap (3)-(4).

Normal

Hitsounds, you know the drill.
00:13:303 (1) - Add whistle to the end of the slider, much like you did in the insane.
00:17:666 (2) - Add clap.
00:18:939 (4) - I'd remove the cymbal from the end of this, add claps either end too.
00:20:212 (1) - Then add the cymbal here instead of the whistle, add clap at the end.
00:21:848 (4) - Add clap in middle.
00:24:212 (2) - Change to drum clap.
00:35:848 (5) - Claps feel out of place considering you are not able to sound any of the other off beat snares in this section.
00:46:393 (3) - Possibility to add a clap for the slider tick in here.
00:47:121 (4) - Change middle and end to auto clap.
00:58:757 (4,5) - An auto clap followed by a drum clap would make a nice fill here.
01:24:939 (1,2) - Drum clap followed by auto for this one.

00:23:121 (1,2) - Misses a note on the red beat. A solution like this would solve it fairly nicely.

Don't really notice any other issues, nicely done diff you've done there.

Easy

A quick look on the aimod is still giving some circles which are not distance snapped, mostly seem to be osu just derping a bit but just get it checked.

Hitsounds seem fine, all good there.

00:35:484 (3,4,5,1) - The pattern here definitely feels a bit too compact for an easy mode. It needs to always be clear what the next circle will be, and it won't be to a new player. I suggest to move the (3) near to about 240,48 ish and descend to the slider from there.
01:03:848 (3,4,5,6,1) - 01:03:848 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is a long run, I suggest to make some of them into sliders.
01:09:666 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:15:121 (2,3,4,5,6) - Same once again, the sudden changes in direction also feel too hard for an easy as a side note.
01:25:666 (2) - A spinner here wouldn't go amiss.

I think I'm done, gl with the rest of the process. ^^

Garven

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Garven 2014-02-26T02:12:37+00:00

spaminabox wrote:
[Easy]A quick look on the aimod is still giving some circles which are not distance snapped, mostly seem to be osu just derping a bit but just get it checked.

I broke distance snap on purpose several times. If you didn't notice them while playing, then I guess they fit well. q:

Hitsounds seem fine, all good there.

Wow, that's rare. Usually people hate my hitsounding, haha.

00:35:484 (3,4,5,1) - The pattern here definitely feels a bit too compact for an easy mode. It needs to always be clear what the next circle will be, and it won't be to a new player. I suggest to move the (3) near to about 240,48 ish and descend to the slider from there.

I see what you're getting at, but I don't see this triangle pattern as being particularly high in terms of difficulty spike.

01:03:848 (3,4,5,6,1) - 01:03:848 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is a long run, I suggest to make some of them into sliders.
01:09:666 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:15:121 (2,3,4,5,6) - Same once again, the sudden changes in direction also feel too hard for an easy as a side note.

Sliders would take away too much. Also it's the kiai section, so the difficulty is expected to raise a bit.

01:25:666 (2) - A spinner here wouldn't go amiss.

No end spinner, sorry. Would feel just as forced as the fadeout.

Thanks!

Edd

57 posts

Joined February 2012

Edd 2014-02-26T02:54:23+00:00

Garven wrote:
spaminabox wrote:
Hitsounds seem fine, all good there.

Wow, that's rare. Usually people hate my hitsounding, haha.

Well it's not as if much can go wrong... >.< So long as it's consistent with the music I'm happy. ^^

kamisamaaa

605 posts

Joined July 2011

kamisamaaa 2014-02-26T04:42:27+00:00

mod for M4M, but come late and have no slot T.T
so..this become a normal mod

[insane]
00:02:393 (3,4) - change these two to a slider feel better. because 'na~ 'continue from 00:02:393 to 00:02:575. this voice is a group. a slider really nice imo.
00:13:848 (4) - make something like this(01) stack to the 1's tail. flow will also look better
00:16:030 (2,3) - ctrl+G? because 2 is stronger than 3. a jump between 1 2 feel better than jump between 2 3 imo.
00:19:121 (2) - stack this on 00:17:666 (2) - ? because of a strong beat on 00:19:303 (3) - and you add a finish. a huge jump really nice to me
00:20:212 (1) - ctrl+G or do some other? 1.01X is toooooo close
00:21:303 (4,1,2,3) - a little strange when I testplay. but I dont know how to change them
00:22:030 (3,4) - a normal distance is okay here. 2.17X is a little far.because 00:22:393 (4) - just has a weak beat.
00:29:303 (4) - move to 166|151 feel better in flow imo
00:35:484 (3) - why make a reserve flow here? a line flow is more suit here
00:38:030 (4,5) - ctrl+G on these two and also ctrl+G to this 00:38:393 (6) - . because I think a jump between 00:38:393 (6,7) - is better.
00:40:212 (4,1) - also suggest to make a jump
00:44:030 (6,7) - same above
00:49:303 (1) - stack this to 00:48:393 (3) - ?
00:52:212 (2,3,4) - strange flow here...maybe change 00:52:575 (4) - into some other shape?
01:12:212 (5) - ctrl+G? just my feeling.. have no reason haha

[hard]
00:29:666 (5,1) - begin these sliders at 00:29:484 and end 1 at 00:30:393
00:38:212 (4) - change this into a slider? because a strong beat at 00:38:393 not 00:38:212
01:00:575 (3) - also suggest to change to a slider. because 'na~ 'continue to 01:00:757. this voice is a group. a slider really nice imo.
01:12:030 (3) - maybe delete this? because the drum is really weak here
01:24:030 (2) - change this to a slider begin at 01:23:939 sound better for me

[easy and normal]
really good map and have nothing to say

hope this mod will help you~
good luck

Darksonic

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Topic Starter

Darksonic 2014-02-27T03:05:44+00:00

spaminabox wrote:
Insane
I kinda like my hitsounds, here's a list of changes I think you should make.
00:35:303 (2) - Add whistle. Hmm it feels like it wouldn't be following a sound or something on the music, I'm using Whistles for a different sound here.
00:43:484 (4) - Add whistle. ^
00:44:212 (7) - Add whistle start of slider, drum clap at the end. The song is building up again so a short tom fill helps push it nicely. Saaame, I can't hear anything that worth these hitsounds here.
00:46:757 (3) - Add clap at start, add drum clap at end. Oops, forgot this one, added.
00:46:757 (3) - Changing these to auto claps fits the drum fill here better. Hmm ok.
00:58:757 (1,2) - Drum claps. What is that supposed to follow on the music? doesn't fit imo.
00:58:939 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Auto claps, also consider turning the volume down of that fill to about 50% if you make those changes too. I thought about it too but I think it would sound bad if I add all these claps so close from each other, so I guess it isn't a problem if I don't add them.
01:24:939 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Same as above. ^

00:22:030 (3,4) - The jump feels odd seeing as the violin maintains the same pitch. Perhaps stack the (4) on 00:23:121 (1) - and then stack the other parts of the triangles on the other sliders they end up near? Well I'm actually following drums since (4), since I'm following something different here it's not a problem to have a big jump between 2 notes.
Rest of the map seems fine.

Normal
Hitsounds, you know the drill.
00:13:303 (1) - Add whistle to the end of the slider, much like you did in the insane. I didn't add a Whistle here on Insane lol.
00:17:666 (2) - Add clap. Added.
00:18:939 (4) - I'd remove the cymbal from the end of this, add claps either end too. Nah, cymbal fits nicely.
00:20:212 (1) - Then add the cymbal here instead of the whistle, add clap at the end. I answered this on a previous mod, I can hear a guitar only here and a Finish will fit better with a cymbal.
00:21:848 (4) - Add clap in middle. Forgot this one as well x.x, added.
00:24:212 (2) - Change to drum clap. Yeah I'm a bit stupid lol, changed.
00:35:848 (5) - Claps feel out of place considering you are not able to sound any of the other off beat snares in this section. Uhm? this is fine.
00:46:393 (3) - Possibility to add a clap for the slider tick in here. Yeah I did but someone told me to remove it, idk why since it sounds fine, so readded.
00:47:121 (4) - Change middle and end to auto clap. Done.
00:58:757 (4,5) - An auto clap followed by a drum clap would make a nice fill here. If I don't add them on the Insane I won't do it here.
01:24:939 (1,2) - Drum clap followed by auto for this one. ^

00:23:121 (1,2) - Misses a note on the red beat. A solution like this would solve it fairly nicely. It breaks spacing consistency that way.

Thanks for modding! and by the way on Hard diff, although Verdi told me to fix the diff for him I won't change any hitsounds on it, since his hitsounds style is kinda different to mine but still I consider it fine, and I would prefer to not change anything on it.

kamisamaaa wrote:
mod for M4M, but come late and have no slot T.T
so..this become a normal mod I'm sorry, but thanks a lot for modding it anyways <3

[insane]
00:02:393 (3,4) - change these two to a slider feel better. because 'na~ 'continue from 00:02:393 to 00:02:575. this voice is a group. a slider really nice imo. Well her voice tone changes a bit, that's why I prefer 2 notes instead.
00:13:848 (4) - make something like this(01) stack to the 1's tail. flow will also look better I don't understand x.x
00:16:030 (2,3) - ctrl+G? because 2 is stronger than 3. a jump between 1 2 feel better than jump between 2 3 imo. Yeah, agree.
00:19:121 (2) - stack this on 00:17:666 (2) - ? because of a strong beat on 00:19:303 (3) - and you add a finish. a huge jump really nice to me Hmm no I prefer to use 1x spacing here.
00:20:212 (1) - ctrl+G or do some other? 1.01X is toooooo close Yeah but it's fine to have a little spacing sometimes xD.
00:21:303 (4,1,2,3) - a little strange when I testplay. but I dont know how to change them I won't move anything then :p
00:22:030 (3,4) - a normal distance is okay here. 2.17X is a little far.because 00:22:393 (4) - just has a weak beat. It was like that before, but flows better like I did now imo.
00:29:303 (4) - move to 166|151 feel better in flow imo That makes the pattern toooooo boring.
00:35:484 (3) - why make a reserve flow here? a line flow is more suit here Changed.
00:38:030 (4,5) - ctrl+G on these two and also ctrl+G to this 00:38:393 (6) - . because I think a jump between 00:38:393 (6,7) - is better. Flow is a bit weird like that so I prefer to keep it.
00:40:212 (4,1) - also suggest to make a jump Will keep this one as well.
00:44:030 (6,7) - same above ^
00:49:303 (1) - stack this to 00:48:393 (3) - ? ^
00:52:212 (2,3,4) - strange flow here...maybe change 00:52:575 (4) - into some other shape? Why strange? it's a square, and slider is fine imo.
01:12:212 (5) - ctrl+G? just my feeling.. have no reason haha Ruins the flow a bit.

Thank you!

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Lissette 2014-03-01T05:20:11+00:00

[Insane]
Nothing to mention here, really nice one.

[Verdi's Hard]
00:19:848 (2,3) - I think will feel better while playing if these notes arent stacked (maybe with a dimond shape along with 00:20:212 (1) - would be nice http://puu.sh/7eoSY.jpg)

[Normal]
00:24:212 (2) - This slider was kinda weird to play, try this http://puu.sh/7epoU.jpg like you did here 00:16:757 (5,1) -
00:46:393 (3) - sliders end has a default softclap, looks like a mistake here

[Garven's Easy]
00:18:575 (1) - this new combo is bugged

Really good set guys!

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Garven 2014-03-02T02:10:17+00:00

Lissette wrote:
[Garven's Easy]
00:18:575 (1) - this new combo is bugged

It's intentional. o3o

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Darksonic 2014-03-02T20:22:45+00:00

Lissette wrote:
[Insane]
Nothing to mention here, really nice one. :3

[Normal]
00:24:212 (2) - This slider was kinda weird to play, try this http://puu.sh/7epoU.jpg like you did here 00:16:757 (5,1) - Ok.
00:46:393 (3) - sliders end has a default softclap, looks like a mistake here Oh my bad, fixed.

Thank you Liss <3, updated everything.

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Verdisphena 2014-03-02T22:13:11+00:00

omg gracias bruno por hacer esto por mí

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Darksonic 2014-03-03T21:59:56+00:00

Verdisphena wrote:
omg gracias bruno por hacer esto por mí

No fue nada, me ahorre bastante tiempo de hecho en esperar los fixes, más fácil hacerlos yo mismo. Cuando quieras echale un vistazo a tu diff, hay varias cosas cambiadas pero no son de suma importancia.

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YTYuyu 2014-03-04T02:31:40+00:00

hey Bruno--m4m request

Bold: Unrankable/must fix.
Red: Should be fixed/highly suggested.
Green: Suggestion.
Blue: Comments, Advice or Other.

[General]
CLEAR~!

[Garven's Easy]
00:11:484 (2) - perhaps you can go for symmetry in this by making the slider look like this? i find it more comfortable to follow for beginners than the current one during gameplay.
00:52:030 (2) - i think you can move this to the right, slightly aligning to the end of (1). same reason as above.
nothing against this easy, though the hitsounds bothered me a bit. personal preference of mine so yea it's nothing important.

[Normal]
00:13:303 (1) - i hear drums at the end of this slider, so add a drum clap at the end for that purpose.
00:22:575 (5) - same as above, but this time at the beginning and end.
00:24:030 - think you add a circle here just to be safe? i feel that players would mislead this part as the 1/2 slider in this combo during gameplay IMO.
01:24:939 (1) - same idea as 00:13:303. add a drum clap for emphasis in the drums in the BGM.

[Verdi's Hard]
00:19:666 (1,2,3) - same as normal. add drum claps for emphasis in the drums.

[Insane]
00:02:575 (4) - delete this note. you're breaking consistency with the 1/1 rhythm in this part of the song.
01:01:303 (2) - why don't you align this to the end of (1) so that the transition feels more comfortable for players during gameplay?
01:24:939 (3,4,5) - same as normal.

let me know after you look at this mod.

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Darksonic 2014-03-04T03:01:12+00:00

Byakugan249 wrote:
Bold: Unrankable/must fix.
Red: Should be fixed/highly suggested.
Green: Suggestion.
Blue: Comments, Advice or Other.

[Normal]
00:13:303 (1) - i hear drums at the end of this slider, so add a drum clap at the end for that purpose. Sure.
00:22:575 (5) - same as above, but this time at the beginning and end. Added the one at the beginning only, since I think the Auto one at the end fits better with these drums.
00:24:030 - think you add a circle here just to be safe? i feel that players would mislead this part as the 1/2 slider in this combo during gameplay IMO. Ok, found a way to make it look decent at least, done.
01:24:939 (1) - same idea as 00:13:303. add a drum clap for emphasis in the drums in the BGM. Ok.

[Insane]
00:02:575 (4) - delete this note. you're breaking consistency with the 1/1 rhythm in this part of the song. This note is here because tone of her voice changes a bit here, so I think it fits nicely.
01:01:303 (2) - why don't you align this to the end of (1) so that the transition feels more comfortable for players during gameplay? Moved a bit.
01:24:939 (3,4,5) - same as normal. Added on (3) only, it doesn't sound really good on the other ones.

Also, added these Claps on Hard diff, thanks a lot Nyaku! Waiting for Garven fixes only.

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Garven 2014-03-04T08:53:11+00:00

Byakugan249 wrote:
[Garven's Easy]
00:11:484 (2) - perhaps you can go for symmetry in this by making the slider look like this? i find it more comfortable to follow for beginners than the current one during gameplay.

Nah, if I was gong for symmetry, you'd know hehe.

00:52:030 (2) - i think you can move this to the right, slightly aligning to the end of (1). same reason as above.

I didn't want to have this that far to the right. It'd mess with flow too much imo.

nothing against this easy, though the hitsounds bothered me a bit. personal preference of mine so yea it's nothing important.

Haha, no worries. I find a lot of people don't like my hitsounding. q:

Thanks!

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Darksonic 2014-03-04T08:54:08+00:00

Everything is updated then.

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YTYuyu 2014-03-05T08:38:04+00:00

re-check~

[Normal]
00:24:030 (2,3) - for this one, the flow in this feels uncomfortable to follow for players, so you can stack these notes, while at the same time, making (3) a curved slider to blanket the end of (1) like so.

SPOILER

44,184,24030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
44,184,24212,2,0,P|80:184|112:164,1,65,8|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

00:52:939 (5,1) - would it be possible to move this down a bit to avoid a slight overlap from 00:52:212 (4) - ?

just that and i think it should be ready to go.

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Darksonic 2014-03-05T08:44:00+00:00

All fixed!

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YTYuyu 2014-03-05T09:04:10+00:00

and~ boop

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Darksonic 2014-03-05T09:06:33+00:00

Thank you so much <3

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-Neipezi 2014-03-05T13:37:07+00:00

ranked gogo!

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Kyouren 2014-03-05T14:54:29+00:00

LOL! Easy is Hard

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BeatofIke 2014-03-06T08:17:38+00:00

Must be a bug or something @gokugohan12468. Easy difficulty is only 1.64 stars and Normal is 4.36 stars. Another upload could fix it. Anyways, here are a few things to point out!
[Easy]

Your green timing sections at 00:10:759 and 00:12:941 are unsnapped. Please re-snap these timing sections by moving them by +2 ms.

[Normal]

01:03:484 (1) - Remome combo here. You don't really need one here.
01:05:303 (3) - If suggested above, consider adding a new combo here.
01:09:666 (1) - Also, Remove this combo as well, to keep the consistency with the vocal sections.

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Darksonic 2014-03-06T08:21:32+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
[Easy]
Your green timing sections at 00:10:759 and 00:12:941 are unsnapped. Please re-snap these timing sections by moving them by +2 ms. Whoops, fixed.
[Normal]
01:03:484 (1) - Remome combo here. You don't really need one here. Hmm sure.
01:05:303 (3) - If suggested above, consider adding a new combo here. ^
01:09:666 (1) - Also, Remove this combo as well, to keep the consistency with the vocal sections. ^

Thank you!!