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Jeff Williams - Red Like Roses part I & II

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Faustas156
I still don't know why a beatmap like this is not ranked :o
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RaZoRgAmer23245
this map is AWESOME!!!
hehedoge
This map is EVIL. Try the jumps.
My Angel Yaong
Awesome map, simply put together wonderfully and the parts fit together perfectly, you really did an amazing job on this map! hope to see this ranked soon can't wait to try and grind it on stream more, the jumps get me so badly XD, but keep up the awesome work ;)
laport
The mp3 appears to be bad quality, when the song is played here it contains cracking noises.
Ket
love this map pls rankkkkk
ZenitH-AT
Rank this! The hard part in the middle is a bit crazy but I love how each time the "bass is dropped?" then the jumps go a bit bigger.
D13t3r
This needs to be ranked!!!!!!
jeanbernard8865
I beg of you, resurrect ;w;
Zel
fun map, but the timing is really awful. I would recommend fixing it. Use this map and steal timing https://osu.ppy.sh/b/293224
cyprianz5
hi
dadadok
Bumping for begging to fix so it can be ranked!
archer-
I still have hope for this
awesomemacD
N E V E R G I V E U P
20Below
plz rank
Lunicia
I like booty
Lucid
What's with part II on demand? It doesn't skip you to part two or anything :/
acriter
awesome chart!
boirjama
plz rank this :'(
dumbass
rank boys
Oszu
Rank pls
DumRabbit
need this ranked
My Angel Akito
Loved hype
Ashton

Legolasxx wrote:

Loved hype

I was literally thinking the same thing xD
fieryrage
the map is objectively terrible. by that i mean the background quality is absolute garbage, the mp3 quality sounds like it's been bass boosted, the jumps make no sense rhythmically (not to mention almost all the patterns are generic and take 3 seconds to make on your own) and the flow is actually awful in most places of the map.

here, give me a second, i'll show you exactly what's wrong with it.

hitsounds are awful all over the place, for one. and i already mentioned mp3 quality. also, HUGE nc issues, and i mean fucking huge. like i have no idea how people consider this polished.

01:27:815 (8,9,1,2) - this pattern is shit and misleading, mainly due to the stack on 01:28:187 (2)
01:41:559 (5,6,7,8) - back and forth here is misleading since it's literally never done prior to this part
01:43:226 (5,6,7,8) - why stack this is so awful playability wise
01:46:823 (3,4) - 4 has more emphasis so why is it stacked here
01:50:705 (6,7,8,1) - why no blue tick map here
01:54:155 (7,1,2) - back and forth goes astray for no reason and awkward flow as a result
01:57:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - wtf is this stream shape lmao (also not DS'd?????????)
01:58:955 (5,6) - why
02:00:305 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - why
02:03:455 (8,1) - nice sudden jump increase for literally no reason, wtf is this supposed to even follow
02:03:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is also way too spaced out for pretty obvious reasons
02:10:655 (8,1) - same as 02:03:455 (8,1)
02:10:805 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - yea you get the point
02:22:505 (6,7,8) - random spacing increase again
02:26:105 (10,11,12) - ^
02:50:312 (7,8,9,10) - ^ for fucks sake
02:52:712 (7,8,9,10) - ^^^^^^^^^
02:53:312 (1,2,3) - why change rhythm here? there's absolutely no reason to
02:54:362 (4,5,6,7,8) - and the jumps here make absolutely no sense on top of it
03:02:312 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ok thanks for the random square out of nowhere
03:04:712 (1,2,3,4) - snore
03:05:612 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - what is being followed here? i can't even tell with all this garbage
03:33:990 (2,3) - stack ruins flow here
03:34:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - thanks for distance snapping everything for no reason! a common theme throughout the song, too
03:57:547 (6,7) - nice flow into slider which is also a huge issue throughout the map
04:16:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - the sides of this could use increased spacing (the only time i'm saying this)
04:29:118 (1,2,3,4) - why does the latter back and forth have more spacing
04:31:404 (2,3,4,5,6) - please don't ever do this.
04:36:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - wtf is the flow on this back and forth
04:41:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - differentiate your pattern so this isn't as boring as fuck to play
04:57:976 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this flows awful like every single distance snapped pattern in this map (aka the entire map, good job!)
05:07:690 (6,7) - WHY STACK
05:10:404 (8,9,10,1,2,3) - WHy
05:13:260 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - way too much spacing emphasis for no reason
05:26:833 (10) - let's skip entire notes like we always do hell yea
05:28:260 (3,4,5,6) - awful transition from triangle to back-and-forth
05:29:690 (3,4,5,6,7) - awful pattern in general
05:30:833 (1,2,3,4,5) - no like actually these play like shit
05:38:404 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - delete this pattern and please stop mapping before you give yourself and everyone else around you cancer, this is actually completely fucking horrid and if this gets anywhere near loved i'm quitting mapping.
05:47:976 (4,5,6,7,8) - please stop using distance snap
05:50:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - please never do jump patterns like this because not only does it look horrendous, it also plays like shit; mainly 05:51:404 (9,10,11,12,13) - this one playing like shit
05:57:404 (6,7,8) - haha woah
06:01:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - where is the emphasis?
06:03:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - where are the unique patterns?
06:05:833 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - ^
06:08:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - found the emphasis but it's too much haha woah
06:09:261 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - awful triangles and 06:10:118 (3,4,5) - wtf is this lmao
06:10:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - lol please don't this is so bad
06:12:690 (1,2) - WHY WOULD YOU STACK THIS LMAO
06:12:833 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - same as previous one
06:14:975 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - honestly this is a pretty good and unique pattern, i just feel like it spaces out a bit too much here though
06:17:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - boring copy and paste
06:18:404 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - this is self explanatory, if people hate on monstrata for quaver why not hate on this lolz
06:23:904 (10,11,12,13) - overmapped
06:25:833 (8,9) - flow-breaking stack for the millionth time
06:33:690 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - symmetry shouldn't be used here considering notes have more emphasis, also 06:34:261 (8,9,10,11,12) - fucking awful never do this shit ever again
06:34:833 (12,13,14) - cool spacing increase
06:36:404 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - cool spacing increase
06:37:833 (1,2,3) - overmapped
06:38:976 (1,2,3) - lol why
06:44:903 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - conversely, this is undermapped, there should be a note on the white ticks
06:51:976 (1,2,3,4,5) - what pattern is this?
06:54:833 (1,2,3,4) - sliders go way too far and make this a guaranteed 100 90% of the time
07:09:261 (8,1,2) - why across the screen
07:11:833 (4) - why skip a clap here
07:13:118 (9,10,11,12) - why do the same pattern here
07:17:118 (2,3,4) - roflmao
07:19:689 (6,7,8) - ^
07:23:118 (13,14,15) - good idea but terrible pattern to do it with
07:36:833 (1,2,3,4) - random spacing increase with no real reason
07:41:690 (5,6) - this jump goes way too far
07:58:047 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as the other one
08:06:260 (1,2,3,4) - no why
08:10:260 (5,6,7,8) - no why
08:11:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is actually awful for the same reason as the other "guaranteed 100" one
08:13:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - did you actually just copy the exact same pattern and flip it holy fucking shit what a god
08:25:689 (6,7,8,9,10) - rofl
08:26:688 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - rofl
08:27:403 (7,1) - why stack after a jump
08:27:974 (2,3,4,5,6) - more back and forths just what we needed right?
08:36:260 (1,2,3,1) - shitty jump patterns again woo!
08:37:689 (1) - spinner starts too early lolz

ok yeah i'm done with this piece of shit
if this gets loved i'm out bye
_DT3
Guys, this set is really outdated, so naturally, this set isn't exactly the best map to begin with.
And also, Loved maps don't exactly have to be as much quality as a ranked map you know, the section was meant to be for maps that aren't really gonna go to the ranked section any time soon but are really liked by the community.
You ask why this map is so loved by the community? It's a classic, that's why. This map is a veery iconic map first of all and if I am not mistaken, introduced some new concepts mapping wise at that time. And don't forget, favorites are not indications that people think the map has been mapped top quality. You also have to include the fact that people like the music, that it is a 7 star map and that it comes from RWBY.
fieryrage

_DT3 wrote:

Guys, this set is really outdated, so naturally, this set isn't exactly the best map to begin with.
And also, Loved maps don't exactly have to be as much quality as a ranked map you know, the section was meant to be for maps that aren't really gonna go to the ranked section any time soon but are really liked by the community.
You ask why this map is so loved by the community? It's a classic, that's why. This map is a veery iconic map first of all and if I am not mistaken, introduced some new concepts mapping wise at that time. And don't forget, favorites are not indications that people think the map has been mapped top quality. You also have to include the fact that people like the music, that it is a 7 star map and that it comes from RWBY.
once you can actually play this map call me because you'll be able to critique it properly then
_DT3

fieryrage wrote:

_DT3 wrote:

Guys, this set is really outdated, so naturally, this set isn't exactly the best map to begin with.
And also, Loved maps don't exactly have to be as much quality as a ranked map you know, the section was meant to be for maps that aren't really gonna go to the ranked section any time soon but are really liked by the community.
You ask why this map is so loved by the community? It's a classic, that's why. This map is a veery iconic map first of all and if I am not mistaken, introduced some new concepts mapping wise at that time. And don't forget, favorites are not indications that people think the map has been mapped top quality. You also have to include the fact that people like the music, that it is a 7 star map and that it comes from RWBY.
once you can actually play this map call me because you'll be able to critique it properly then
I never said it was good. Also, just cleared up the thing about why this can get loved
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Kotayo
considering removing the map completely if people are just gonna have a rage out between like/don't like

let's be nice to each other and enjoy the game please
Nokui
You should probably get a mod to lock this thread then. because most likely going to be full of people fighting over whether or not they like this map once it gets loved :/
buny
Still one of my favourite maps that I like to play, regardless if the map has scoreboard or not.

@fieryrage
There is nothing objective about mapping as mapping itself is a visual interpretation of the mapper, just as music can be the interpretation of the song artist and music is interpreted in many ways by the listener. If you think otherwise, then you're objectively an idiot.

Your mod is terrible also, have you heard the term constructive criticism? Your post is literally filled with hate with little to no reasoning behind your suggested changes. The contrast between your mod and my mod is between night and day, the purpose of a mod is to polish somebody else's artwork, not make it your own.

The backlash you received on your mod would be a lot less simply if you didn't put so much hatred into your posts.

Kotayo wrote:

considering removing the map completely if people are just gonna have a rage out between like/don't like
It would be a bit disappointing if it ended like this because of a few people trying to speak their minds couldn't fathom the concept that maybe the world doesn't revolve around their opinion (shocker!)

The best course of action would be to ask a forum mod to close this thread since in my opinion this map is iconic for its time and would be sad to see another old and good map disappear.
MillhioreF
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