Underflow wrote:

No kudosu plz

[RatedNC17's Taiko Oni]

1. 00:50:055 (1,1,1) - Certainly vocal start at 00:51:266, 00:52:756 but why are spinners start mapped to 00:51:173, 00:52:663?
2. 02:00:023 (1,1,1) - Same as above.
3. 02:22:011 (9) - It is unrankable. Big notes at the end of stream must have the opposite color of the four previous notes.

[mii-chan's Inner Oni]

1. This is too easy for this difficulty. i'd recommend you change this difficulty to Muzukashii by changing some patterns.

Sorry, i can't mod this becuase i can't understand mapping style.

Oops, I noticed the no kds too late heh, if this is a problem I'll ask a mod to remove it. Thanks.

Avishay wrote:

Oops, I noticed the no kds too late heh, if this is a problem I'll ask a mod to remove it. Thanks.

It is no problem. but i want to remove that kds.

Underflow wrote:

Avishay wrote:

Oops, I noticed the no kds too late heh, if this is a problem I'll ask a mod to remove it. Thanks.

It is no problem. but i want to remove that kds.

Don't worry. Removed~

reseted kd cuz ufw is 카와이

No Dap wrote:

reseted kd cuz ufw is 카와이

Underflow than said he wanted it removed.

No Dap wrote:

reseted kd cuz ufw is 카와이

What is going on

I like the idea that BN are coming into my map but nothing will be achieved this way

Avishay wrote:

No Dap wrote:

reseted kd cuz ufw is 카와이

What is going on

I like the idea that BN are coming into my map but nothing will be achieved this way

Well, I helped with this map too, so it's not just cuz I'm a BN.
And I just talked to Underflow and he wants it removed.

No Dap wrote:

reseted kd cuz ufw is 카와이

No Dap lol

lol i wanted to troll him sorry

No Dap wrote:

lol i wanted to troll him sorry

As a punishment, mod my map

First time in a year summon!
No kudosu.

not need 'op' tag. so, already 'opning'. redundant data. so remove it.

good luck~.

P o M u T a wrote:

First time in a year summon!
No kudosu.

not need 'op' tag. so, already 'opning'. redundant data. so remove it.

good luck~.

Updated :S

I had some thinking, and I decided to remove the Taiko diffs, it is mainly my fault that I can not make them go live. The unavailability of the taiko mappers is not helping either.

I can not map taiko well but I still like the mode, I couldn't get the map going for a long time and the mappers are partly gone, I'll try to get the standard set ranked soon, the taiko diffs are included in the description for anyone interested!

[ROLLING STAR]

00:00:730 (1) - Okay. Your intro isn't very consistent in terms of rhythm. Here you use a circle, followed by 1/1 break. You then use a slider at 00:02:260 (1) - . to map the same beats, with 1/2 beat in between, before switching back to a single circle with 1/1 break at 00:03:750 (9) - . Honestly, it's better to fllow the 1/2 slider rhythm for all of these strong beats, rather than leaving a 1/1 gap because what this creates is irregular spacing going into the next note.
00:03:750 (9,1) - Take this for example. The spacing is very similar to the spacing you see in the previous circles that were spaced 1/2 apart. However, these two circles are actually spaced 1/1 apart which is not good. It creates an irregularly short spacing that also interferes with flow.

00:03:378 (6,7,8) - Doesn't fit honestly... No triplet sound here. You are mirroring the slider from before: 00:01:887 (5) - . So be consistent and also use a 1/2 slider here.
00:06:173 (1,2) - Stack perfectly ;D
00:12:694 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - This jump pattern is poorly spaced imo... 00:12:694 (1,2,3) - Are one set of beats with 1 being the strongest, so the jump from 1>2 makes sense. Going by your style, you want 2>3 to have a small spacing (which is fine i guess,). However, this jump pattern needs to be mirrored in the next set of 3 beats to be consistent, so the jump from 3>4 should also be large (you did this), and so should the jump from 4>1. The jump from 1>2 should be the closely spaced jump, followed by a large jump again into the next slider.
00:18:471 (8,1) - Potential for a triplet here instead.
00:18:284 (7,8,1) - Also, the spacing here is a bit awkward. White ticks like 1 are usually strong beats, but you map it to a very short jump... that doesn't play well imo.
00:25:179 (6,1) - This is a bit better, having a large jump on the strong white tick. This jump might be slightly exaggerated though...
00:26:669 - You should map something "clickable" here rather than a slider end, since you map the other drum hits, all of which are clicked.
00:28:719 (5,1) - Is this necessary? Difficult to read because so much of the slider is overlapped. I don't see a purpose to this overlap other than to screw with people lol.
00:30:023 (3,1) - Not the best flow. I'd like to see the slider angled a bit more to the top/right of the screen rather than being so horizontal.
00:34:123 (4) - This slider doesn't really do much... it honestly doesn't fit, and you also miss out on mapping the beat at 00:34:496 - to something clickable that would lead into the next slider better.
00:34:123 (4,1) - Yea, I don't think a flow break fits here. If anything though, at least fix the stack on the slider-ends.
00:36:545 (1,2,3) - Again, poor flow. Also, i don't think the repeat on 2 works that well... You might want to consider a rhythm like this instead: Here
00:45:862 (3,4,1) - Here again, the spacing makes it seem like 1 is also 1/2 beat away from 4, when its actually 1/1. You can fix this by making 4 a slider though.
00:58:905 (1,2,3) - You could honestly improve this pattern. It doesn't look like much honestly...
01:03:005 (3,4,1) - This flow break doesn't work for me... I feel like a jump from 4>1 fits better than a flow-break.
01:13:812 (3,1,2,1) - Spacing issues with jumps again.
01:37:663 (1,2) - Poor flow. Also, fix the blanket with slider 3.
01:38:781 (5,1) - Blanket
01:40:458 (6,1) - Mentioned earlier about having a short jump on the white tick. Also, this spacing makes the jump from 01:40:831 (2,3) - extremely exaggerated.. Also, I really don't think the drum beat on 3 is so important that you need such a large jump. You don't map the same beat in later and earlier sections so such a drastic jump so this doesn't seem consistent.
01:42:694 (5,1) - ^
01:43:067 (2,3) - Yea, I don't think this flow-breaking jump works either. Also note how you map the beat at 01:43:253 - to a slider-end this time? That pretty much tells the player this particular beat wasn't that significant considering it wasn't even mapped to something click/tappable. But you just mapped a huge jump to it the measure before.
01:43:812 (5,6,1) - Mentioned earlier about 1/1 spacing issues.
01:52:570 (5,6,7) - This rhythm doesn't really work for me... Try this rhythm instead: Here.
01:55:551 (1,1) - Hmm, the 1/1 spacing works here because the circles are clearly not spaced to appear like 1/2 distance spaced jumps, so this is another alternative~
01:57:415 (1,3) - Fix stack.
02:02:259 (1,2) - This doesn't work. First, take out the NC's, Then follow the rhythm you set up in the previous measure 02:00:023 (1,2,3,4,5) - . This rhythm works well, but you need to mirror it in the next measure by making 02:02:259 (1) - two circles, and having a 1/2 slider begin at 02:02:632 -
02:02:819 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Honestly... nothing in the music really suggests a stream. Especially the first half of it. You could argue that the second half might fit
02:07:477 (7) - NC, and stick to this rhythm because it's good: 02:07:477 (7,1,2,3,4) -
02:11:949 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - This isn't the Kiai section anymore, the streams don't need to be so spaced... I feel like this is just to up the star rating. Also, I recommend flipping both streams horizontally so they flow better. Something like this would be nice. Since the first stream would flow nicely from 02:11:576 (3) - . And the second stream would flow into your next stream nicely too.
02:18:750 (4,1) - This is a really sharp directional shift. I wouldn't recommend this Nothing in the song suggests such a shift. If you wanted a sharp turn, it makes more sense to put it at 02:18:378 (6,1) - Since there is an audible change in the music.
02:17:912 (1,2,3) - Also, why stack? It's very difficult to read and plays kinda awkwardly...
02:21:824 (3,4,5) - Okay, 3>4 jump is pretty big, that's fine, but why the short spacing from 4>5 when 5 is an even stronger beat than 4? You want to emphasize 5 so make it a big jump too, or nerf 3>4 jump.

Problems i'm seeing are:

There isn't a clear, consistent rhythm. You swap to varying rhythms even though the rhythm in the song is being mirrored in the next measure.

Also, I think your jump patterns could use some work. Some of them don't flow that well for me. I feel you could try and create better patterns for those jumps. As they are now, they seem kind of unpolished and a bit random. Also, consider the spacing too, when you map your jumps, because large spacing is usually used to emphasize certain beats.



I know I said I'd mod 3 diff's but I spent a lot of time on this one, and I hope I've explained myself clearly enough. You may ask me for a recheck on your Insane later if you want, I wouldn't mind taking another look at it.


Good luck~

monstrata wrote:

[ROLLING STAR]

00:00:730 (1) - Okay. Your intro isn't very consistent in terms of rhythm. Here you use a circle, followed by 1/1 break. You then use a slider at 00:02:260 (1) - . to map the same beats, with 1/2 beat in between, before switching back to a single circle with 1/1 break at 00:03:750 (9) - . Honestly, it's better to fllow the 1/2 slider rhythm for all of these strong beats, rather than leaving a 1/1 gap because what this creates is irregular spacing going into the next note.
00:03:750 (9,1) - Take this for example. The spacing is very similar to the spacing you see in the previous circles that were spaced 1/2 apart. However, these two circles are actually spaced 1/1 apart which is not good. It creates an irregularly short spacing that also interferes with flow.

00:03:378 (6,7,8) - Doesn't fit honestly... No triplet sound here. You are mirroring the slider from before: 00:01:887 (5) - . So be consistent and also use a 1/2 slider here.
00:06:173 (1,2) - Stack perfectly ;D
00:12:694 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - This jump pattern is poorly spaced imo... 00:12:694 (1,2,3) - Are one set of beats with 1 being the strongest, so the jump from 1>2 makes sense. Going by your style, you want 2>3 to have a small spacing (which is fine i guess,). However, this jump pattern needs to be mirrored in the next set of 3 beats to be consistent, so the jump from 3>4 should also be large (you did this), and so should the jump from 4>1. The jump from 1>2 should be the closely spaced jump, followed by a large jump again into the next slider.
00:18:471 (8,1) - Potential for a triplet here instead.
00:18:284 (7,8,1) - Also, the spacing here is a bit awkward. White ticks like 1 are usually strong beats, but you map it to a very short jump... that doesn't play well imo.
00:25:179 (6,1) - This is a bit better, having a large jump on the strong white tick. This jump might be slightly exaggerated though...
00:26:669 - You should map something "clickable" here rather than a slider end, since you map the other drum hits, all of which are clicked.
00:28:719 (5,1) - Is this necessary? Difficult to read because so much of the slider is overlapped. I don't see a purpose to this overlap other than to screw with people lol.
00:30:023 (3,1) - Not the best flow. I'd like to see the slider angled a bit more to the top/right of the screen rather than being so horizontal.
00:34:123 (4) - This slider doesn't really do much... it honestly doesn't fit, and you also miss out on mapping the beat at 00:34:496 - to something clickable that would lead into the next slider better.
00:34:123 (4,1) - Yea, I don't think a flow break fits here. If anything though, at least fix the stack on the slider-ends.
00:36:545 (1,2,3) - Again, poor flow. Also, i don't think the repeat on 2 works that well... You might want to consider a rhythm like this instead: Here
00:45:862 (3,4,1) - Here again, the spacing makes it seem like 1 is also 1/2 beat away from 4, when its actually 1/1. You can fix this by making 4 a slider though.
00:58:905 (1,2,3) - You could honestly improve this pattern. It doesn't look like much honestly...
01:03:005 (3,4,1) - This flow break doesn't work for me... I feel like a jump from 4>1 fits better than a flow-break.
01:13:812 (3,1,2,1) - Spacing issues with jumps again.
01:37:663 (1,2) - Poor flow. Also, fix the blanket with slider 3.
01:38:781 (5,1) - Blanket
01:40:458 (6,1) - Mentioned earlier about having a short jump on the white tick. Also, this spacing makes the jump from 01:40:831 (2,3) - extremely exaggerated.. Also, I really don't think the drum beat on 3 is so important that you need such a large jump. You don't map the same beat in later and earlier sections so such a drastic jump so this doesn't seem consistent.
01:42:694 (5,1) - ^
01:43:067 (2,3) - Yea, I don't think this flow-breaking jump works either. Also note how you map the beat at 01:43:253 - to a slider-end this time? That pretty much tells the player this particular beat wasn't that significant considering it wasn't even mapped to something click/tappable. But you just mapped a huge jump to it the measure before.
01:43:812 (5,6,1) - Mentioned earlier about 1/1 spacing issues.
01:52:570 (5,6,7) - This rhythm doesn't really work for me... Try this rhythm instead: Here.
01:55:551 (1,1) - Hmm, the 1/1 spacing works here because the circles are clearly not spaced to appear like 1/2 distance spaced jumps, so this is another alternative~
01:57:415 (1,3) - Fix stack.
02:02:259 (1,2) - This doesn't work. First, take out the NC's, Then follow the rhythm you set up in the previous measure 02:00:023 (1,2,3,4,5) - . This rhythm works well, but you need to mirror it in the next measure by making 02:02:259 (1) - two circles, and having a 1/2 slider begin at 02:02:632 -
02:02:819 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Honestly... nothing in the music really suggests a stream. Especially the first half of it. You could argue that the second half might fit
02:07:477 (7) - NC, and stick to this rhythm because it's good: 02:07:477 (7,1,2,3,4) -
02:11:949 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - This isn't the Kiai section anymore, the streams don't need to be so spaced... I feel like this is just to up the star rating. Also, I recommend flipping both streams horizontally so they flow better. Something like this would be nice. Since the first stream would flow nicely from 02:11:576 (3) - . And the second stream would flow into your next stream nicely too.
02:18:750 (4,1) - This is a really sharp directional shift. I wouldn't recommend this Nothing in the song suggests such a shift. If you wanted a sharp turn, it makes more sense to put it at 02:18:378 (6,1) - Since there is an audible change in the music.
02:17:912 (1,2,3) - Also, why stack? It's very difficult to read and plays kinda awkwardly...
02:21:824 (3,4,5) - Okay, 3>4 jump is pretty big, that's fine, but why the short spacing from 4>5 when 5 is an even stronger beat than 4? You want to emphasize 5 so make it a big jump too, or nerf 3>4 jump.

Problems i'm seeing are:

There isn't a clear, consistent rhythm. You swap to varying rhythms even though the rhythm in the song is being mirrored in the next measure.

Also, I think your jump patterns could use some work. Some of them don't flow that well for me. I feel you could try and create better patterns for those jumps. As they are now, they seem kind of unpolished and a bit random. Also, consider the spacing too, when you map your jumps, because large spacing is usually used to emphasize certain beats.



I know I said I'd mod 3 diff's but I spent a lot of time on this one, and I hope I've explained myself clearly enough. You may ask me for a recheck on your Insane later if you want, I wouldn't mind taking another look at it.


Good luck~

I'm not really sure what happend, I spent the last hour or so going through the mod and commenting, I pressed post, then I was redirected to the first page and the post was gone.. If you still want me to comment, please say so, and I'll do when I am back in a few hours.

Your mod was very helpful and I changed most of the stuff you noted.

I'll go over the hitsounds by myself later, since I see they can be improved.

I'm really sorry for the inconvenience ><

uuuh o3o \o3o\ oh well some small things

[Staru]

1. OD 8 HP 7.5
2. 00:29:092 (1,2) - try something like that
   
   SPOILER

   

   240,128,29092,6,0,P|172:80|92:104,1,140,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   88,212,29651,1,8,0:0:0:0:

3. 00:37:850 (2,3,4) - i would curve those objects straight is not so nice flow
4. 00:41:390 (6,3) - *nazi* stack better
5. 00:45:676 (2,3) - i would do this jump more visible
6. 00:55:179 (1,2,3) - looks really uglu unstack and do a better stream form
7. 01:03:005 (3) - silly stack wich ruins the flow and plays bad
8. 01:03:378 (1,2,3) - i would do something different with spacing to notice more the rhythm change
9. 01:37:663 (1,2,3) - bad flow try to re-do this pattern
10. 02:02:912 (6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i would really recomend to re-do this stream form with closer spacing because is really ugly atm :V
11. 02:10:086 (3) - ctrl+g for better flow
12. 02:17:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmm... personally i dunno will leave it but is pain

[Normal]

1. 01:35:427 - not needed green line
2. 02:20:893 (2,3) - unstack

[Easy]

1. 01:03:750 (2,3) - don't stack in easy diffu :C please unstack
2. 01:48:098 (3,1) - don't stack in easy diffu :C

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call me back o3o

Yay~
Starred! ^3^

Lally wrote:

uuuh o3o \o3o\ oh well some small things

[Staru]

1. OD 8 HP 7.5 Increased HP but left OD as it is, since I feel like this deserves to award no-mod players a bit more with the streamy parts.
2. 00:29:092 (1,2) - try something like that
   
   SPOILER

   

   240,128,29092,6,0,P|172:80|92:104,1,140,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   88,212,29651,1,8,0:0:0:0:

3. 00:37:850 (2,3,4) - i would curve those objects straight is not so nice flow
4. 00:41:390 (6,3) - *nazi* stack better
5. 00:45:676 (2,3) - i would do this jump more visible
6. 00:55:179 (1,2,3) - looks really uglu unstack and do a better stream form
7. 01:03:005 (3) - silly stack wich ruins the flow and plays bad
8. 01:03:378 (1,2,3) - i would do something different with spacing to notice more the rhythm change
9. 01:37:663 (1,2,3) - bad flow try to re-do this pattern I have to disagree, it flows really nicely, you don't need to follow the whole slider, here's a good sketch I did to show how the flow should go http://puu.sh/gKYPQ/9740bee9e6.jpg
10. 02:02:912 (6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i would really recomend to re-do this stream form with closer spacing because is really ugly atm :V I think it is one of the parts that were made when I first published the map, redone.
11. 02:10:086 (3) - ctrl+g for better flow
12. 02:17:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmm... personally i dunno will leave it but is pain Reworked some patterns so this will play much better

[Normal]

1. 01:35:427 - not needed green line
2. 02:20:893 (2,3) - unstack

[Easy]

1. 01:03:750 (2,3) - don't stack in easy diffu :C please unstack
2. 01:48:098 (3,1) - don't stack in easy diffu :C

additional irc modding with the mapper;

o3o

14:47 Lally: poke o3o
15:02 Avishay: y
15:02 Avishay: yo
15:05 Lally: o3o/ hello
15:05 Lally: i wanted to ask sorry again >3< i'm sometimes baka and forget to reply to pm ;_;/
15:06 Avishay:
15:06 Avishay: no worries lol
15:07 Lally: i'm cheching your mappu now but i have some worries ò-ò'' the mappu is nice but between your hard and insane is a bit a gap
15:07 Lally: i would recomend to add some triplets or 1/4 sliders in the drum parts where you used streams in insane and rolling star diff o3o
15:08 Lally: i'm finishing to mod and after those changes we can talk about a bubble \o3o/
15:08 Avishay: Uhm
15:08 Avishay: How much should the gap be
15:08 Avishay: I have 2 Hard difficulties and 2 Insanes
15:09 Avishay: Nya's Hard was made to fill the gap between the Dray's Normal and my Hard
15:10 Lally: i know thats totally right, i'm talking parts like 02:00:583 (3,4,5) - can be added some 1/4
15:10 Lally: are not a lot but just a few to make the hard a bit more harder
15:10 Avishay: Oh sure then
15:10 Avishay: I am always up for making stuff harder
15:12 Lally: i would mostly add some more 1/4 in the kiai parts
15:12 Lally: 00:34:309 (8,1) - here a triplet would be nice
15:12 Lally: between 00:37:850 (2,3) - ASWELL
15:12 Lally: ups caps o3o
15:13 Avishay:
15:13 Lally: 00:49:682 - i would map the drum sound in this parts and not a 1/1 slider
15:14 Lally: 01:45:676 - add something here
15:14 Lally: 01:59:651 - same here would map the drum sounds
15:17 Avishay: alright

call me back o3o

Anything that wasn't noted was fixed / changed!

Thank you very much!

lets' try to roll this star and we will have a bubble o3o

Lally wrote:

lets' try to roll this star and we will have a bubble o3o

Thank you Lally :3

Nice job on great map! :3

RMaltsaar wrote:

Nice job on great map! :3

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!

uwah <3 gratz avishay >w<b
eventhough i cant play std ;w;

Hello Avishay! Nya requested a mod.

Sadly I have to pop the bubble, because of few general issues (spread, bg etc) + I think some diffs can be improved.






I really like the song, and this map is going towards the right direction.

I just think that we can both agree that there could be some improvement some of the diffs c:

Skipped the other diffs for now, since I wanted to focus on the harder diffs here.

If you have any question regarding my mod or anything else, contact me in-game o/

appleeaterx wrote:

Hello Avishay! Nya requested a mod.

Sadly I have to pop the bubble, because of few general issues (spread, bg etc) + I think some diffs can be improved.

:idea: General

* b2.jpg is 1365x768. Please change to 1366x768. Egh.. Will change tomorrow.
* Only the ROLLING STAR diff has 1500ms audio lead-in. Add to the other diffs as well. We talked about this and this is not necessary since RS has the start mapped while the other diffs don't.
* Inconsistent KIAI times. With GD's it doesn't matter, but keep it consistent in your own diffs please. It was a mistake with an inherited timing point, woops.
* Sorry if it's stupid for me to ask, but why is 'sky' in the tags? Describes the backgrounds, is it a no-no?
* -Nya-'s diff CS4, and yours CS3? Shouldn't be a big problem, but using decimals for your diff would be better imo (considering that your diff is harder than -Nya-'s) I'll prefer to leave it as it is to not ruin patterns.
* Letterbox in breaks is on @ WhiteAries and the ROLLING STAR diff, but they don't have breaks :< Fixed.
* Spread looks like E-N-Nya---H--I-X now. Introducing 1/4 with the usage of reverse sliders in Nya's diff, can keep the spread in balance with both the normal and Avishay's hard diff. I was asked by Sonnyc to have a gap filling diff, with star rating around 2.3~2.6, Nya did it well, if she wants to add 1/4 to her map I have no objections (for whatever choice she makes).

Hard

* 00:14:744 (3,4,1) - Really confusing and hard to time as well due to switching to the red tick. Can you space this out? Especially, because you have the same spacing as 00:14:371 (2,3) - , which is 1/2 - and (3,4,1) is 1/1. Changed.
* 00:34:402 (9) - For Hard diffs, I advise you to only use 1/4, when there is a 1/4 beat in the song - and not for emphasis. Beats like 00:37:943 (3) - are fine. ]I think this one is fine, it was added with Lally's suggestion as well.
* 00:38:781 (6) - I'm a bit lost here, since I can't really see what you're following. Now, both the instruments and the vocal notes are offbeat, creating a rather confusing rhythm. Try something like this instead? Changed.

* 00:42:508 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Patterns like these are like.. really hard to read with AR7. Really? Eitherway I spiked the AR a bit since the last time I modified the AR in this difficulty there was no decimal values.
* 00:44:558 (1) - Keep your spacing 1.4? It's acceptable for a hard diff to have some spacing changes, but these notes are quite strong, and now they are reaaallly close. The lower spacing is because of the SV change.
* 00:49:216 (2,3,4,5) - Please simplify this. Since you can't even see the kickslider properly (look in-game, it's also partly covered due to stack leniency, and that combined with low SV) this kind of rhythm is just way too sudden. Try something like this? Changed.

* 00:49:961 (6,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Single-tap diff spike!!11!! It's fine here I guess, but don't go all to crazy with the DS please.Changed a bit with the previous note.
* 01:08:968 (1) - I know it has a NC, but spacing it out more wouldn't hurt right? Actually it will, will look too forced to me.

I could go on, but it's basically the same issues all over again. I suggest you to make this diff more simple. Not as making even more complex rhythms, but more as in 'readable' and more 'flow' usage. I don't really know how to explain, but the diff feels a bit unbalanced. The 1/4 usage overall is passable, and fits well with the Nya-Hard-WhiteAries spread, but try to make everything a bit more clean, if you get what I mean :/ I'll take a look by myself tomorrow, since it is really late now.

WhiteAries' Insane

* 00:11:204 (1) - A finish here sounds better to me. I agree, changed.
* 00:37:943 - Kinda expected a note here to be honest. The vocal note is quite strong, and since you did overmap a bit at 00:19:402 (3,4,5) - I don't really understand why you left such an important 1/4 beat out. (You did map the same vocal at 01:42:042 (12) - though...) I'll have to agree on this one too, I don't think WW would ignore it intentionally./color]
* 00:58:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Oh this is cool c:
* 01:04:123 (8) - You dont want a clap here?
* 01:04:775 - Optional, but map this one out as well? The drums are still here. I don't think he'd miss that on purpose, I think he might've thought that a 7 notes stream is too much, unchanged.
* 01:22:384 (4) - Again, clap? Added
* 01:28:719 (1) - Ehh finish ._.? (you did put one at 01:25:738 (1) - ) Added, in the next pattern too.
* 02:07:384 (12,1) - 1/4 stacks make me cry ;____________; (its fine if you want to keep it though) WA is unique :3

I like this diff c:

ROLLING STAR

* 00:03:471 (7) - Can't really hear a beat here... You can hear the after-sound (orwhatever it is called) of 00:03:378 (6) - I think it fits just fine and plays nice.
* 00:05:055 (7,1) - You're intro is very jumpy, and when there's a strong sound like (1) you keep a very small DS. Kinda expected to have a jump here. Actually my intention here was the opposite, this sound feels like a 'brake' to me, just like those 00:11:204 (1,2,3) - I could've made them with higher spacing, but I did the opposite.
* 00:05:800 (4,1) - This gap, combined with the rather small spacing (considering your jumpy patterns) - plays really awkward imo. Turning (4) into a slider, or increasing the spacing here plays much better in my point of view. I don't want to increase the spacing due to the same reason as before, but I've changed it into a slider.

* 00:08:222 (1,2) - Please don't use extended sliders like this ;-; - there's a sound on the red tick before that, and there's no sound on the blue tick. I felt like it was just fine.. But changed.
* 00:08:595 (6,7,8,9) - (6,7) is huge compared to (8,9) - it'd make this jump pattern a bit more consistent in terms of spacing if I were you. I guess it is acceptable, changed.

* 00:09:340 (10) - Same thing as 00:05:800 (4,1) - Spacing changed after the previous line.
* 00:10:086 (3,4) - The player has to jump from one side of the screen to the other - a large jump like this combined with your low SV doesn't play that well... Placing the slider differently could make this pattern play much smoother and also more forgiving at the same time.

* 00:13:067 (3,4) - Distance is so small here.. try to keep at least 1.0x spacing between these. Aren't you getting confused with 1 and 4? They're not close at all..
* 00:14:558 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Just wanted to say that I like this pattern ^^ Thanks~
* 00:17:073 (5) - pls no overmap in slow parts pls ._. (notes like 00:18:564 (9) - are fine, because there's actually something in the song that it can go with) It feels really great to me, this is the start of the intenser parts (less sliders, bigger spacings), I even feel like the triplet emphasizes the vocal a bit more.
* 00:21:266 (4) - Have no idea why you increased the SV here... this section is almost identical to the part before this The strong vocal at the slider beginning made me feel like I need to increase the SV here, and imo it fits just fine and builds nicely into the next section.
* 00:35:055 (2) - NC should be here, because of the downbeat. The NC follows the stronger drums here, there's a pattern of NC in this section as well.
* 00:51:266 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Can't really find a clear pattern here... I think you're trying to follow the changes of the instrument, but sorry this doesn't really work that well :c Reworked pattern.

i kinda thought u were going to do something like that with beats of 2, seperated by nc's with a triangular shape or something similar, this is just a quick example, you can do it neather c:

* 00:52:756 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - A triplet here and there to emphasize some parts is fine, but please don't put a stream where there is a hold note. The stream was made to emphasize it.
* 01:01:887 (5,1) - I know that there's a NC, but don't space them too far apart. Really confusing - considering how low the 1/4 spacing was at 01:01:141 (2,3) - Changed.
* 01:05:241 (2,3,4) - Using the rotate tool (120 degrees) would make this pattern look much better. This is what I did.. But I did it again just to be sure.
* 01:07:104 (1,2) - Same what I said earlier about the 1/4 spacing, patterns like this don't play that well and come really unexpected. The spacing here is even larger than 01:06:732 (7,8) - which is just 1/2. I somewhat felt like the previous pattern was just fine but a bit irregular, but I decided to change it.
* 01:17:819 (6) - Please delete this one, doesn't have a sound like 01:17:446 (3) - , and two triplets in a row (especially in a slow part) sounds like spammmMMmm. Deleted and repositioned a bit.
* 01:19:775 (6) - Optional, but add NC? Would fit your pattern. Alright.
* 01:31:514 (1) - Totally up to you, but for me 1/8 does the job already. I'll leave it as it is, you should listen to this part at 25% PBR.

* 01:32:259 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - 'Create polygon circles' (otherwise than that, i really like this pattern owo) I think it is fine as it is, I like the current symmetry.
* 02:03:377 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - blue ticks overmapped again ;-; Strong vocals
* 02:18:098 (3) - More a personal thing, but I find using shapes like these, create a very awkward motions - while you do want to have some consistency when you have streams. Using smoother angles would play much smooooother.I reworked the pattern, should be much much better.

So next part is hitsounding. I don't really get what your HS patterns are - but it just seems really random to me. You can really notice the inconsistency of the hitsounds in slower parts.

Cymbal sounds like 01:24:247 (3) - 01:25:738 (1) - 01:27:228 (1) - and 01:28:719 (3) - have a clap, or nothing add all.

While just regular clap sounds have finishes, like 01:26:856 (5) - 01:24:806 (1) - and 01:29:278 (1) -

If you have trouble with hitsounds, I recommend looking at Kibbleru's hitsounding guide, or you could also take a look at WhiteAries' diff. His/her HS pattern is good and I think he/she tried to follow the same instruments as you did.

I could give you a whole list with what to remove and add but too lazy and it would take alooooooooot of time

I tried to not comment on style, but this diff needs a bit more work imo. The jumps are fun - but everything feels off at some points of the map due to inconsistent / unexpected patterns.

I really like the song, and this map is going towards the right direction.

I just think that we can both agree that there could be some improvement some of the diffs c:

Skipped the other diffs for now, since I wanted to focus on the harder diffs here.

If you have any question regarding my mod or anything else, contact me in-game o/

Thank you, I'll re-do the hitsounds on RS tomorrow and check Hard again after the mod as well, it is really late right now, good night.

Here's my diff~
I made it a bit harder, by adding some more notes, trying to complicate some of the patterns, etc.
The hitsounds are also better now.

hi there!
m4m in game
easy
00:08:595 (2,1) - fix blanket
00:09:713 (1) - ds?
00:26:110 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:32:819 (2,3) - ^^
00:48:471 (1,2) - ^^
01:32:819 (2) - overlap?
01:47:539 (2) - is it ok for and 1/4 in easy?
normal
00:15:489 (3) - stacking is not good in normal
00:19:961 -^^
00:23:502 (3,4) - fix blanket
00:26:110 (1,2) - ^^
00:44:558 (2,3) - ^^
white aries
01:07:850 (1,4,7) - NC?
01:20:148 (3) - x228 y200?
01:36:545 (3) - ctrl g?
01:41:949 (11) - NC? and then remove 01:42:322 (1) NC
hard-are you sure about CS 3? mb lower it to 3.5?
00:06:732 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:43:999 (1,1) - ^^
01:39:527 (4,5) - ^^
01:46:607 (1,1) - ^^
01:51:452 (2) - nc?
gl!

ohad1881 wrote:

hi there!
m4m in game
easy
00:08:595 (2,1) - fix blanket
00:09:713 (1) - ds? Well.. It is not really far away and I cahnged it because of the blanket fix.
00:26:110 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:32:819 (2,3) - ^^
00:48:471 (1,2) - ^^
01:32:819 (2) - overlap?
01:47:539 (2) - is it ok for and 1/4 in easy? It is 1/2.
normal
00:15:489 (3) - stacking is not good in normal Why not? Improving the player and such.
00:19:961 -^^
00:23:502 (3,4) - fix blanket
00:26:110 (1,2) - ^^
00:44:558 (2,3) - ^^
white aries
01:07:850 (1,4,7) - NC? I don't think NC spamming is good, but I added NC on 9.
01:20:148 (3) - x228 y200? Why? I don't think it is the purpose of the pattern.
01:36:545 (3) - ctrl g? It ruins the pattern, so no
01:41:949 (11) - NC? and then remove 01:42:322 (1) NC Good catch.
hard-are you sure about CS 3? mb lower it to 3.5? I think it is fine as it is.
00:06:732 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:43:999 (1,1) - ^^
01:39:527 (4,5) - ^^
01:46:607 (1,1) - ^^
01:51:452 (2) - nc? I don't think it is a good idea.
gl!

Some of the blankets had to be like that, and some of them were fixed. An other change I made: stacked the last note on Normal again since otherwise it feels a bit awkward to me, and honestly stacking on Normal should be just fine.

schwarzvgrune wrote:

uwah <3 gratz avishay >w<b
eventhough i cant play std ;w;

I'll get it ranked in the end


I re-did the hitsound on all of my diffs, should be much better, everything is updated!

Hey~ Rechecking ROLLING STAR, nokds

[ROLLING STAR]

00:01:887 (6) -
00:03:378 (6,7,8) -
00:04:868 (6,7) - These 3 sections all map to the same melody in the song, but you use 3 different rhythms. I would be nice if you reduced them to two at least, since you should still have some rhythmic pattern.
00:08:036 - This is the same melody as the previous, and now you don't have anything here. Rolling Star can be a bit repetitive in melody, so having a recurring rhythmic pattern would add a nice effect.
01:04:868 (1,2,3,4) - There is a lot of potential here for a better rhythm imo. 1/2 sliders definitely work, but try this rhythm and see if you like it better: Rough structure. Basically 1/2 slider > jump to circle > jump to next slider. If you like this pattern There are many ways to change this you to your liking too. Rhythm
01:12:881 (2,2) - This overlap isn't good imo. It's a slow section too, which makes this quite hard to read. And you already have a circle stacked under the tail.
01:22:756 (3) - I wish you could restructure this slider a bit so that it flows a bit better from 1>2>3. Something closer to this?
01:27:228 (1,2,3,4) - People are going to misclick this thinking they are streams because right before this pattern, you use a large jump 01:26:856 (5,6) - . You should reconsider the spacing here to make it clearer to the player that they are 1/2 spaced.
01:37:663 (1) - Moving the slider a bit more to the right while still blanketing 3 would improve the flow here
01:40:831 (2,3) - This is good, you're emphasizing the beat with a large jump, but you should be more consistent with the beats that you choose to map to such jumps. For example: 01:42:135 (3,4) - Here are the same beats again, but you didn't map 4 to a large jump

02:07:477 (1,2) -
02:08:968 (1,2,3) -
02:10:458 - Here again, i've highlighted 3 sections of the song with the same melody, but you've mapped them to different rhythms. I think this one is the odd one out, since you decide to map the start of the measure (large white tick) to a slider-end. This is an important beat that should be clickable, and I think mapping this beat is more important than the 1/1 slider you are currently using.
02:11:949 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I honestly don't think such extended spacing is necessary. This isn't the Kiai Section so the player isn't expecting difficult patterns like this.

Alright I hope this was helpful! Also, please recheck your NC pattern, sometimes it's not very consistent. Sections like 02:08:968 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - for example. I know everyone has different patterns which are equally fine, but on the majority of your map (and lower diff's) the NC is on every large white tick so try and do the same.

monstrata wrote:

Hey~ Rechecking ROLLING STAR, nokds

[ROLLING STAR]

00:01:887 (6) -
00:03:378 (6,7,8) -
00:04:868 (6,7) - These 3 sections all map to the same melody in the song, but you use 3 different rhythms. I would be nice if you reduced them to two at least, since you should still have some rhythmic pattern. I think it is fine as it is.
00:08:036 - This is the same melody as the previous, and now you don't have anything here. Rolling Star can be a bit repetitive in melody, so having a recurring rhythmic pattern would add a nice effect. ^ There's no real reason to map after rules like these.
01:04:868 (1,2,3,4) - There is a lot of potential here for a better rhythm imo. 1/2 sliders definitely work, but try this rhythm and see if you like it better: Rough structure. Basically 1/2 slider > jump to circle > jump to next slider. If you like this pattern There are many ways to change this you to your liking too. Rhythm Changed
01:12:881 (2,2) - This overlap isn't good imo. It's a slow section too, which makes this quite hard to read. And you already have a circle stacked under the tail. So what if I have a circle on the tail? The pattern is not that hard to read imo and plays just fine
01:22:756 (3) - I wish you could restructure this slider a bit so that it flows a bit better from 1>2>3. Something closer to this? Instead of reconstructing the slider I moved 2 into a different position.
01:27:228 (1,2,3,4) - People are going to misclick this thinking they are streams because right before this pattern, you use a large jump 01:26:856 (5,6) - . You should reconsider the spacing here to make it clearer to the player that they are 1/2 spaced. I honestly don't think they'd get confused and think I'd have a stream spaced like this in such a slow part.
01:37:663 (1) - Moving the slider a bit more to the right while still blanketing 3 would improve the flow here You are right, changed.
01:40:831 (2,3) - This is good, you're emphasizing the beat with a large jump, but you should be more consistent with the beats that you choose to map to such jumps. For example: 01:42:135 (3,4) - Here are the same beats again, but you didn't map 4 to a large jump I honestly don't need to do that all the time, the way everything is positioned now is fine as well, I see a lot of maps that don't follow this rule completely and they are just great.

02:07:477 (1,2) -
02:08:968 (1,2,3) -
02:10:458 - Here again, i've highlighted 3 sections of the song with the same melody, but you've mapped them to different rhythms. I think this one is the odd one out, since you decide to map the start of the measure (large white tick) to a slider-end. This is an important beat that should be clickable, and I think mapping this beat is more important than the 1/1 slider you are currently using. It plays just fine, this one goes well as a slider end too.
02:11:949 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I honestly don't think such extended spacing is necessary. This isn't the Kiai Section so the player isn't expecting difficult patterns like this. I didn't make this kiai because there are no vocals, I felt like giving this part more difficulty because he deserves it.

Alright I hope this was helpful! Also, please recheck your NC pattern, sometimes it's not very consistent. Sections like 02:08:968 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - for example. I know everyone has different patterns which are equally fine, but on the majority of your map (and lower diff's) the NC is on every large white tick so try and do the same. Alright, changed.

Thank you monstrata~

metadata changed due to: http://puu.sh/h2zqL/229355d002.png
@appleeaterx

Maybe you already noticed from my recheck, but I can't see a nice constant hitsounding pattern orz

Fixed that clap.
Thanks appleeaterx~!

appleeaterx wrote:

Easy

* 00:26:110 (1) - Finish on head, clap on repeat?
* 00:29:092 (1) - Finish on spinner end instead?
* 00:35:055 (1,3) - Since this is the easiest diff of the mapset, try to avoid stacks like these. Not unrankable, but changing it a bit could help a lot with readability.

* 00:41:017 (1) - Is really close to the slider body now, a bit nazi, but small tweaks can avoid that.

* 00:42:508 (4) - To keep pattern, I'd personally use finish + whistle instead - since the cymbal is really here :< (not to mention that you did do it at 00:44:371 (1) - and that sounds much better imo :/)
* 00:43:999 - To me, the cymbal/finish here should be mapped, and is stronger than the 3 beats you're following now with that repeat. Would be nice if you took advantage this sound as well. Keeping this consistent with 01:47:539 (2,3) - would work nice here.

* 00:44:371 (1) - Spinner came a bit unexpected, optional, but I'd map this part out. Especially, since you did map 01:48:471 (1) -
* 00:51:825 (5) - Clap at both head & end.
* 00:54:433 (3) - Put a finish + whistle on head if you changed it at 00:42:508 (4), or just have a finish on the head. Also add clap on the slider end for consistency.
* 00:56:669 (3) - Clap on head.
* 00:58:160 (5) - Clap on head, finish on the end.
* 00:59:651 (1) - I highly recommend mapping this section out, because this long slider doesn't fit at all. You shouldn't skip strong sounds like 01:01:887 - - also add a clap here. I really think that you should map this out...
* 01:04:123 (3) - Clap on head, finish on the end. Also, slider gets overlapped by the HP bar - I kinda expect you to map that part out (the slider I mentioned above), so maybe some rearrangement could work here to avoid that.
* 01:11:576 (2) - Remove the finish on the head, the slider end's finish should get more emphasis, also to keep it somewhat consistent with 01:13:067 (1) -
* 01:13:067 (1) - Change slider end's clap to a finish, since this sound is not that loud (?) Also to keep consistent with 01:11:576 (2) - 's end.
* 01:14:558 (3) - Remove clap at head, change to finish on end instead.
* 01:15:676 (4) - Different hitsound as 01:14:185 (2) - ? Can't really find a clear/good reason why these two should be different.
* 01:17:166 (1,2,3,4) - There are many other sounds that you can map, instead of placing these that are rather confusing (if you listen carefully, they land on rather dull notes as you can see, since a strong note like 01:18:284 (3) - is skipped). I recommend to follow the vocals instead.
* 01:24:620 (4) - Similar to what I said before, please don't skip cymbal sounds like 01:25:738 (5) - . They are core/basic notes, which should be the base of your rhythm. If you do want to keep that slider, use something like this instead.

* 01:26:856 (1) - Finish on end.
* 01:28:346 (3) - Either clap or finish here (depends, there's a cymbal sound, but I can see that you don't want 3 finishes in a row)
* 01:28:719 (1) - Clap on repeat.
* 01:39:154 (4) - NC here, this combo is quite long and it'd fit your NC-per-two-measure pattern.
* 01:42:135 (1) - Dunno if you did the slider points a bit off intentionally, but check with CTRL+G if everything is symmetrical.
Also, this slider is skipping the downbeat 01:43:626 (2) - , so ending the slider there seems much more logical to me.
* 01:42:135 (1) - Finish on head.
* 01:46:607 (1) - Same finish + whistle suggestion, depends what you did earlier.
* 01:49:961 (2) - Optional, but finish on slider end?
* 01:52:570 - Map this finish please ;_;
* 01:52:943 (1) - Clap.
* 02:04:496 (1) - Finish instead.
* 02:07:477 (1) - Use finish instead? Like 00:11:204 (1) -
* 02:11:949 (3,4) - Try to avoid 3/4 gaps (polarity issues), especially in easier diffs. Try something like this instead.

Hitsound things apply to all your diffs.

deejaydray's Normal

* 00:24:247 (4,5) - This 3/4 gap is ehh meh. Would better better to move (5) half a tick earlier to follow the cymbal-ish sound, or have something like this if you want to follow all the sounds here.

* 00:37:663 - Add note here to avoid 3/4 gap?
* 00:54:433 (4,5,6) - It's really hard to time these, and it's harsh on new players to have loose 1/2 notes like this. Please try to change most of these to more simple rhythms, that don't have polarity issues. This honestly follows the song just perfectly, the spacing is really easy to recognize and I think it is just fine
* 01:15:303 (4,1) - Try to avoid these kind of stacks in the easier diffs, space it out like 01:27:228 (4,1) - ?
* 01:28:719 (1) - You can easily reduce the amount of polarity issues, by taking advantage of the drums. Try something like this?
[box=]

* 01:33:750 (5,6) - Stacking (6,1) is fine, but don't hide them under the slider end please :c
* 01:43:626 (3,4) - Optional here, but polarity could be improved here. Will leave dray's work
* 02:20:893 (2,3) - you know. I think the stack makes it look the best, I

I already talked to you about spacing, but yeah if you want to keep it - it can't be helped Just please, fix the polarity issues :<

Nyaaaaaaan~

* 00:26:669 (2) - Don't want clap(s) here instead?

Hard

* 00:24:247 (1,2,3,4) - Ehh, I know it's slider -> slider, but try to shorten the DS here. Switch up the positions a bit?

* 00:34:309 (8,9,1) - Triplet here sounds really out of place here... You don't even have this in the Insane/Extra o_o

almost light insane w

Maybe you already noticed from my recheck, but I can't see a nice constant hitsounding pattern orz

Everything fixed, except for what I noted, I am 100% sure I read everything but I might missed to reply on something I didn't apply.

Please note that some hitsounds may differ in my differ because of intensity changes and other gameplay, I hope I didn't miss anything crucial :S

Updated!

you were afk so posting here instead

Hitsounds your diff.
00:32:446 - Finish here -> clap?
01:07:850 (1,1,3) - Kinda expected finishes here :/

Easy
01:26:297 (6,1) - Spacing pleaaase c:
01:32:073 (1,2) - Same
02:01:514 (1,1) - Unrankable, spinner needs 1 full measure recovery. Consider shortening by 1/1.

Normal
02:16:421 (1) - Put something here, like a finish - you can hear the cymbal.

Nya
Still has the old Taiko GD'ers in the tag.

Rolling Star
00:38:409 (3,4) - These could be spaced out a bit more.
00:54:433 - Optional, but since the large jump ends here, the strong vocal here + the downbeat. NC this one instead?
01:00:955 (1) - Move this one a bit further away from (2), currently the distance between (1,2) is almost identical to (2,3) - try to avoid that if you use different snaps.
01:31:514 (1) - I still think this is mean and that 1/8 does the trick already... I always lose my combo here for some reason ._.


please let this be the last time that i recheck this w

appleeaterx wrote:

you were afk so posting here instead

Hitsounds your diff.
00:32:446 - Finish here -> clap?
01:07:850 (1,1,3) - Kinda expected finishes here :/ I think clap to finish sounds great already :>

Easy
01:26:297 (6,1) - Spacing pleaaase c: Opps, why did I forget about changing it.
01:32:073 (1,2) - Same If I change the spacing the blanket and pattern is ruined, I think it is a bit trivial :SChanged.
02:01:514 (1,1) - Unrankable, spinner needs 1 full measure recovery. Consider shortening by 1/1.

Normal
02:16:421 (1) - Put something here, like a finish - you can hear the cymbal. Added on the previous beats too

Nya
Still has the old Taiko GD'ers in the tag. Guess she forgot to update her diff after I updated it :S

Rolling Star
00:38:409 (3,4) - These could be spaced out a bit more. Increased slightly, to improve pattern.
00:54:433 - Optional, but since the large jump ends here, the strong vocal here + the downbeat. NC this one instead? I agree, changed.
01:00:955 (1) - Move this one a bit further away from (2), currently the distance between (1,2) is almost identical to (2,3) - try to avoid that if you use different snaps. Changed pattern a bit, should be better.
01:31:514 (1) - I still think this is mean and that 1/8 does the trick already... I always lose my combo here for some reason ._. Well it ends on the 1/4 tick and 1/16 fits here perfectly :3 I rarely break my combo here


please let this be the last time that i recheck this w

Sorry and thank you again ><

Updated.

Yay

either timing is off or mp3 is fckd up, since notes are off and not randomly.. or the drummer was drunk
(at least at the very beginning, till 00:14:185 - )

Aka wrote:

either timing is off or mp3 is fckd up, since notes are off and not randomly.. or the drummer was drunk
(at least at the very beginning, till 00:14:185 - )

It seems just fine.. When I started mapping it I took the mp3 from the old mapset of Rolling star (lol) and it is not even the full song, so.. The beginning is a bit random but I got some timing points there and it seems fine.