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LeaF - Doppelganger [OsuMania]

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Remillion Cross
522 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
Remillion Cross
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 23, 2014 at 2:14:58 AM

Artist: LeaF
Title: Doppelganger
Source: BMS
Tags: bms of fighters 2013 konzertsaal
BPM: 280
Filesize: 3779kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another - 7Key (5 stars, 1428 notes)
  2. Beginner - 7Key (1.98 stars, 542 notes)
  3. eXtremies - 7Key (5 stars, 2021 notes)
  4. Hyper - 7Key (3.82 stars, 1058 notes)
  5. Standard - 7Key (2.79 stars, 771 notes)
Download: LeaF - Doppelganger
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 1st instrumental mania mapset. but 3rd mania mapset, now, not sure if this will be ranked or not
Rip new diffs. Want to re-make the hitsounds.
Diff :
Beginner = EZ
Standard = NM
Hyper = HD
Another = MX
eXtremies = SHD

Please tell me if you want to give me some advice. Thanks for playing~
Last edited by Remillion Cross , edited 16 times in total.
Sorarei
1,420 posts
Joined August 2012
Sorarei
mania and leaf doesn't need in tags so remove
Runamii
51 posts
Joined April 2013
Runamii
:o
Remillion Cross
522 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
Remillion Cross

Reikosaka wrote:

mania and leaf doesn't need in tags so remove
update !
should i give you kudosu ( because i don't know xD )
Sorarei
1,420 posts
Joined August 2012
Sorarei
don't kudos, wait until i mod this one
Remillion Cross
522 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
Remillion Cross

Reikosaka wrote:

don't kudos, wait until i mod this one
ok, but since this is not-for-ranked maps, i think you should only mod if my offset, BPM, error, issue note was a problem here.
feel free to mod, i never mind for a late :p
Skalim
311 posts
Joined December 2012
Skalim
Hi Pat ^^ here is my random mod ^^, (some suggerences)

[7K Beginner]

00:03:481 -- 00:10:338 - i don´t know, but i see this part just a little boring XD, if you want, you can add some notes more, making stairs or some easy patttern
00:49:445 - move these 2 notes 1 down (snap 1/4) misplaced note i think
00:50:999 - move 3 up, misplaced note
00:51:106 - move 3 up, misplaced note
01:25:017 (4) - move 1 up, misplaced note

[7K Standard]

00:01:091 - you can make here the same pattern of the start (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1211718)
00:48:267 -- 00:48:910 - move all 1 up, misplaced notes (derp XD)
02:01:231 (4) - erase these note, stream unnecessary

[7K Hyper]

00:50:731 (0) - move 1 up, misplaced note
00:50:838 (1) - ^
00:51:052 (6) - ^
00:51:160 (5) - ^

[7K Another]

00:18:052 - This stream and LN note can continue to 00:18:267
00:50:838 - move 1 down, misplaced
00:50:945 - ^
00:51:160 - ^
00:51:267 - ^
00:51:588 - erase these note, no sounds here

[7K extRemies]

01:46:874 - misplaced LNs notes, move 2 up (1/4 snap)
01:47:195 - misplaced 2LNs and 1 note, move 1 up (1/6 snap)
Remillion Cross
522 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
Remillion Cross

Skalim wrote:

Hi Pat ^^ here is my random mod ^^, (some suggerences)

[7K Beginner]

00:03:481 -- 00:10:338 - i don´t know, but i see this part just a little boring XD, if you want, you can add some notes more, making stairs or some easy patttern
00:49:445 - move these 2 notes 1 down (snap 1/4) misplaced note i think
00:50:999 - move 3 up, misplaced note
00:51:106 - move 3 up, misplaced note
01:25:017 (4) - move 1 up, misplaced note

[7K Standard]

00:01:091 - you can make here the same pattern of the start (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1211718)
00:48:267 -- 00:48:910 - move all 1 up, misplaced notes (derp XD)
02:01:231 (4) - erase these note, stream unnecessary

[7K Hyper]

00:50:731 (0) - move 1 up, misplaced note
00:50:838 (1) - ^
00:51:052 (6) - ^
00:51:160 (5) - ^

[7K Another]

00:18:052 - This stream and LN note can continue to 00:18:267
00:50:838 - move 1 down, misplaced
00:50:945 - ^
00:51:160 - ^
00:51:267 - ^
00:51:588 - erase these note, no sounds here

[7K extRemies]

01:46:874 - misplaced LNs notes, move 2 up (1/4 snap)
01:47:195 - misplaced 2LNs and 1 note, move 1 up (1/6 snap)
All fixed ! Thanks for the mod Skalim ^^
Sorarei
1,420 posts
Joined August 2012
Sorarei
IRC mod

SPOILER
10:00 Reikosaka: patrick o/
10:03 Remillion Cross: reiko o/
10:04 Reikosaka: tolong testplay dong /np
10:04 *Reikosaka is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/345274 RAMM - Wonder Nanda? Kataomoi]
10:05 Reikosaka: enjoyable nggak mapnya .. kalo misalnya ada yang unconfortable bilang ya
10:05 Remillion Cross: ok
10:09 Remillion Cross: udah
10:10 Remillion Cross: enjoy2 aja kok `-`
10:11 Reikosaka: hmmm untuk orang pro kelihatannya enjoy ya , entar ku coba minta test sama yang agag newbie 
10:11 Remillion Cross: SV nya keren
10:11 Remillion Cross: :p
10:11 Reikosaka: itu aku namain Feel SV
10:12 Remillion Cross: gawat
10:12 Remillion Cross: jangan-jangan pas main, mukanya jadi feel semua
10:13 Reikosaka: bukan itu :p
10:13 Reikosaka: SV-nya di dasarkan dari emotion lagunya
10:17 Remillion Cross: itu jackhammernya agak susah ya ._.
10:18 Reikosaka: nah jackhammernya mau dikurangin sebenernya
10:18 Reikosaka: emang susah
10:18 Remillion Cross: kenapa jackhammernya dijadiin tangga aja
10:19 Reikosaka: terlalu monotone, orang orang bilang "pattern-nya itu-itu mulu" lol
10:19 Reikosaka: mau irc mod gag ?
10:22 Remillion Cross: boeh
10:22 Remillion Cross: *boleh
10:22 Remillion Cross: cuma kalau DC ntar susah
10:22 Remillion Cross: internetku labil
10:22 Remillion Cross: emang bedanya sama mod biasa apa ?
10:22 Remillion Cross: setauku irc mod , kayak live mod gitu kan
10:22 Reikosaka: emang
10:22 Reikosaka: biar lebih mudah aja
10:23 Reikosaka: "kalo bisa dipermudah kenapa dipersulit"
10:23 Remillion Cross: ok
10:24 Remillion Cross: btw, kenapa BPMnya ada yang dibuat 90 ?
10:24 Reikosaka: kamu masih belum bisa baca bpm ya ?
10:24 Reikosaka: itu emang 90 bpm (halfed)
10:24 Remillion Cross: bisa
10:25 Remillion Cross: owh
10:25 Remillion Cross: soalnya kadang-kadang, orang suka ngedouble in bpm atau setengah in
10:26 *Reikosaka is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326240 LeaF - Doppelganger [Beginner]]
10:26 Reikosaka: 00:00:053 (53|1,160|5,374|6,588|6,802|6,1017|5,1124|1) - terasa ganggu kalo model patternnya begini, atau mungkin ini style mu ?
10:27 Remillion Cross: emang sih
10:28 Remillion Cross: 00:00:374 (374|6,588|6,802|6) - 
10:28 Reikosaka: pindahin beberapa ke key 4 5 6 biar balance
10:28 Remillion Cross: ketiga pattern itu aku ganti saja
10:28 Reikosaka: 00:02:088 (2088|0,2302|0,2517|0) - ganti juga
10:29 Remillion Cross: udah
10:30 Reikosaka: kalo aku liat bpm-nya 280 jadinya 1/2 itu sama dengan 1/4 
10:30 Reikosaka: 00:24:481 - coba ini http://puu.sh/67CyV.png
10:31 Remillion Cross: sebenarnya BPMnya dibuat 280, biar mempermudah kan baca pattern pas di diff yang paling sulitnya
10:32 Remillion Cross: welp, pengen buat gitu
10:32 Remillion Cross: cuma takut jadi agak susah untuk yang masih newbie
10:33 Reikosaka: kalo awal note LN begini 00:34:767 (34767|4,34767|6) - berarti note ini harus ganti patternya 00:36:910 (36910|6,36910|4) - 
10:33 Reikosaka: bpm emang asli 280 kok , cuman terlalu dangerous kalo make 1/2 .. udah nggak recommend itu.. 
10:33 Reikosaka: tapi liat entar deh ..
10:34 Reikosaka: 00:38:624 (38624|4,39052|3,39481|2) - tiga note ini pindahin ke kiri, jadi jari kiri dan kanan juga ikut main (balance)
10:35 Remillion Cross: ok -w-b
10:35 Reikosaka: 00:48:695 (48695|6,48695|4) - delete salah satu
10:36 Reikosaka: 00:50:785 (50785|0,50892|2,51106|6,51213|4) - hal begini harus diperhatikan , unsnapped note nih.. bukan beat yang tepat
10:37 Remillion Cross: salah ya ?
10:37 Remillion Cross: soalnya skalim yang bilang gitu
10:37 Remillion Cross: awalnya sih aku ga buat gitu lol
10:37 Reikosaka: menurutku salah , berdasarkan sound yang ada...
10:38 Remillion Cross: jadi pindahkan ke mana ?
10:38 Reikosaka: 00:51:374 (51374|0,51481|2) - samain yang ini placementnya
10:38 Remillion Cross: udah
10:38 Remillion Cross: jadi kembali seperti yang dulu
10:39 Reikosaka: yang kamu buat sebelumnya ?
10:39 Reikosaka: 01:02:838 (62838|4,63267|3) - delete ini
10:39 Remillion Cross: soalnya pas pertama sebelum mod skalim, aku samain dengan placement yang itu
10:41 Reikosaka: 01:10:874 (70874|3,70874|1) - sbnernya emang ada beat disini tapi disini juga ada 01:10:767 - tambahin atau pindahin salah satu note disitu
10:42 Reikosaka: 01:20:088 (80088|1) - pindah ke 01:20:195 - 
10:43 Reikosaka: 01:20:945 (80945|2,80945|4) - pindahin 1 note ke 01:20:838 - 
10:43 Remillion Cross: salah taruh note hur
10:44 Reikosaka: kesalahan pasti ada :) 
10:44 Remillion Cross: udah fixed 
10:44 Remillion Cross: untung banget ini modem ga DC
10:44 Remillion Cross: biasanya 2-3 jam langsung disconnect -w-
10:45 Reikosaka: 01:25:070 (85070|4) - placement ini menurut aku masuk ke 1/3 beat 01:25:052 - 
10:46 Remillion Cross: ok
10:51 Reikosaka: pat sorry gue dc gara-gara lupa cas laptop ._.
10:51 Reikosaka: lanjut lagi ya
10:51 Remillion Cross: and...he's gone
10:52 *Reikosaka is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326243 LeaF - Doppelganger [Standard]]
10:52 Remillion Cross: gapapa
10:52 Remillion Cross: biasa kok DC :p
10:53 Reikosaka: 00:01:070 (1070|5) - salah beat ..
10:53 Remillion Cross: langsung standard ?
10:53 Reikosaka: sebenernya beginner udah cukup , pas aku liat di kiai time udah bagus kok cuman tetap aja susah buat newbie
10:54 Remillion Cross: whoops
10:54 Reikosaka: kok keliatan sama ya awal pattern ini sama beginner ?
10:55 Remillion Cross: masa ? 
10:55 Remillion Cross: okay , aku rombak lagi
10:55 Reikosaka: Open difficult for reference
10:55 Reikosaka: cocokin
10:56 Remillion Cross: 00:00:053 - 00:03:481 - udah aku buat beda
10:57 Remillion Cross: biar ga sama dengan standard
10:57 Reikosaka: sip
10:57 Remillion Cross: eh beginner maksudnya
10:57 Reikosaka: 00:33:481 - ini pattern waktu awal aku mapping o/
10:57 *Reikosaka ketawa
10:57 Remillion Cross: ganti ?
10:58 Reikosaka: nggak perlu
10:58 Reikosaka: aku mod bukan menganggu style kamu
10:58 Remillion Cross: :|
10:58 Reikosaka: 00:38:089 (38089|6,38411|0) - ganti column dong
10:58 Remillion Cross: oke deh
10:59 Remillion Cross: udah
11:00 Reikosaka: 00:42:696 (42696|1,42803|5,43018|0,43125|6) - jackhammer dapat menyebabkan kanker ..
11:00 Reikosaka: delete
11:00 Reikosaka: 00:48:375 (48375|5,48481|5,48589|1,48695|1) - rapid begini bagus, pas sama beatnya
11:00 Remillion Cross: serangan jantung, gagal kehamilan, dan janin
11:01 Remillion Cross: ok
11:01 Remillion Cross: :p
11:01 Reikosaka: 00:50:785 (50785|0,50892|2,51106|0,51213|2) - fix ini
11:01 Remillion Cross: ok
11:01 Reikosaka: ini di BMS genre lagunya apa sih ? ngajakin brantem.. multiple style gitu
11:02 Remillion Cross: pphtt
11:02 Reikosaka: 01:03:481 - http://puu.sh/67Etm.png coba ini
11:02 Remillion Cross: BMS of Fighters 2013 kauzertraal 
11:03 Remillion Cross: LeaF emang susah ditebak
11:03 Remillion Cross: ok
11:04 Reikosaka: 01:09:268 (69268|2,69268|0) - hindari triple di awal chorus , biasanya triple/note yang banyak ada di akhir chorus 
11:04 Reikosaka: delete 1 
11:04 Reikosaka: 01:12:696 (72696|4,72696|3) - 
11:05 Reikosaka: sama kasus dengan beginner 01:25:071 (85071|2,85071|4) - 
11:06 Reikosaka: wtf LN-nya 01:48:911 (108911|6) - 
11:06 Remillion Cross: wkkw
11:06 Reikosaka: itu kan ada sedikit sound , tambahin aja note 
11:07 Remillion Cross: ok
11:07 Reikosaka: pindah ke diff selanjutnya
11:08 Remillion Cross: btw intersection jangan di mod dulu, belum jadi, dan masih ngaco SV nya
11:08 Reikosaka: kalo udah ada Another kenapa ada Intersection sama Extremies ?
11:08 Reikosaka: kecuali kalo itu GD
11:09 Remillion Cross: bms kalau ga salah diffnya sampai extra
11:09 Remillion Cross: extremies itu extra
11:09 Remillion Cross: yang itu iseng-iseng /plak
11:09 Reikosaka: betulin kapitalnya
11:10 *Reikosaka is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326241 LeaF - Doppelganger [eXtRemies]]
11:10 Remillion Cross: fine
11:11 Reikosaka: sekarang ini
11:11 Remillion Cross: ga tau biasanya liat dari diff orang yang ranked
11:11 *Reikosaka is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/326242 LeaF - Doppelganger [Hyper]]
11:11 Remillion Cross: tulisannya eXtra
11:11 Reikosaka: mereka hanyalah orang gila :p
11:11 Remillion Cross: -,-
11:12 Remillion Cross: ini map udah lama
11:12 Reikosaka: entah kenapa kurang genah sama stream ini 00:06:053 (6053|0,6160|1,6267|2) - di mirror aja biar se-arah
11:12 Reikosaka: niat mau ranked kan ?
11:13 Remillion Cross: fifty fifty
11:13 Remillion Cross: ga ada niat
11:13 Remillion Cross: tapi kalau bisa boleh lah
11:13 Remillion Cross: wkwk
11:13 Reikosaka: serius ? aku males mod kalo kamu nggak niat
11:13 Remillion Cross: ok niat
11:14 Remillion Cross: kalau gitu, intersectionnya nanti aku delete
11:14 Remillion Cross: itu diff unrankable zzz
11:14 Remillion Cross: atau ga taruh di puush aja lah
11:14 Remillion Cross: wkwk
11:15 Reikosaka: 00:32:839 (32839|5,32839|1) - pindah ke 1 sama 7
11:15 Remillion Cross: btw... aku kehabisan akal untuk.. BG nya
11:15 Remillion Cross: sebenarnya BG untuk lagu ini emang ada dari BMS
11:16 Reikosaka: request dengan DJNightmare aja
11:16 Remillion Cross: cuma nanti jadi monoton -,-
11:16 Remillion Cross: pernah nanya ke yang main BMS lagu ini
11:16 Reikosaka: 00:50:785 (50785|0,50892|1,51106|6,51213|5) - fix ini
11:16 Remillion Cross: katanya, minimal cari BG yang warna warni begitu, tapi ga sampai terlalu mencolokl
11:17 Remillion Cross: tapi fokus hitem dan biru muda
11:17 Reikosaka: http://puu.sh/67FgP.png ini punya skalim patternya :p
11:18 Reikosaka: 01:04:339 (64339|1,64553|2,64767|3,64982|4,65196|4) - delete, terlalu mainstream
11:18 Reikosaka: ini juga 01:05:410 (65410|3,65624|2,65839|2) - 
11:19 Reikosaka: 01:21:696 (81696|2,81910|3,82124|4) - ini juga
11:19 Remillion Cross: ok
11:19 Remillion Cross: sekarang, mania diffs ga bisa sulit2
11:19 Remillion Cross: paling mentok punya expew
11:20 Remillion Cross: mesti nyari lagu yang instrumen nya agak banyak dikit, biar sulit
11:20 Remillion Cross: kayak shuffle heaven
11:20 Remillion Cross: overmapped bikin enekin 
11:20 Reikosaka: 01:48:910 (108910|6) - LN-nya
11:22 Reikosaka: udah cukup untuk yang ini
11:23 Remillion Cross: ok
11:23 Remillion Cross: menurutmu preview pointnya itu pas apa enggak ?
11:24 Reikosaka: kok diakhir chorus ?
11:24 Remillion Cross: udah test yang lain
11:24 Remillion Cross: di tengah kurang cocok
11:25 Remillion Cross: di awal juga ga kerasa 
11:25 Remillion Cross: -,-
11:25 Remillion Cross: dimana ya ?
11:25 Reikosaka: biarin disitu dulu aja..
11:25 Reikosaka: aku nggak bisa mod Another dan Extremies, terlalu gila patternya ._. 
11:25 Remillion Cross: okay...
11:25 Reikosaka: bukan o2jam & IIDX player hehe :p
11:25 Remillion Cross: udah selesai ?
QQQK
QQQK
Hi, just a couple of things I noticed. Blue numbers refer to the column lines, from left to right. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7

[Beginner]
  1. 00:24:481 (24481|0,24588|3,24695|5,24802|1) - "Beginner" players might find patterns like these hard to play. You could go for a more readable approach like 5-3-6-2 or even 1-2-3-4.
  2. 00:45:481 (45481|5,45695|3,45910|1) - Why long notes here? On second thought, I think you misplaced them. Try moving these 1/2 up.
  3. 01:09:481 (69481|4,69802|0,69802|6) - There's a gap between the LN and the notes. Reminds me of autoconverts (ugh). Extend the LN or move the notes back down.
  4. 01:12:910 (72910|4,73231|0,73231|6) - ^
[Standard]
  1. 00:58:768 (58768|6) - Ghost note?
[eXtremies]
  1. 00:17:195 - Don't do this >_> It's not even the hardest difficulty in the set, and you're already incorporating 280BPM 1/4 double chords with LN in the center. Try something like this - It's easier to read, play, and enjoy.
  2. 00:54:910 (54910|6,54910|0,55338|1,55338|5) - Two LNs per timing section?
  3. 01:09:615 (69615|1,69669|1) - Two notes in the same column are 1/4 apart in 280BPM. It's not a huge problem, as I'm sure the majority of MX players can play patterns like these, but just thought I'd let you know.
  4. 02:24:052 - I don't know about this ending... I see what you're trying to do here, but it's not really effective x_x That LN in lane 5 has to be held and let go within, what, 21ms? But at the same time, this is probably the best pattern to go for... Try deleting the center lane LN and applying it at the static sound. Or maybe even something like this. Both play better than the original pattern, IMO.
I'm quite busy, so that's all I can check for today T__T I'm sorry
This is an awesome mapset! Please finish Intersection :D
Hope this gets ranked ^^
Remillion Cross
522 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
Remillion Cross

ZXCV wrote:

Hi, just a couple of things I noticed. Blue numbers refer to the column lines, from left to right. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7

[Beginner]
  1. 00:24:481 (24481|0,24588|3,24695|5,24802|1) - "Beginner" players might find patterns like these hard to play. You could go for a more readable approach like 5-3-6-2 or even 1-2-3-4.
  2. 00:45:481 (45481|5,45695|3,45910|1) - Why long notes here? On second thought, I think you misplaced them. Try moving these 1/2 up.
  3. 01:09:481 (69481|4,69802|0,69802|6) - There's a gap between the LN and the notes. Reminds me of autoconverts (ugh). Extend the LN or move the notes back down.
  4. 01:12:910 (72910|4,73231|0,73231|6) - ^
[Standard]
  1. 00:58:768 (58768|6) - Ghost note?
[eXtremies]
  1. 00:17:195 - Don't do this >_> It's not even the hardest difficulty in the set, and you're already incorporating 280BPM 1/4 double chords with LN in the center. Try something like this - It's easier to read, play, and enjoy.
  2. 00:54:910 (54910|6,54910|0,55338|1,55338|5) - Two LNs per timing section?
  3. 01:09:615 (69615|1,69669|1) - Two notes in the same column are 1/4 apart in 280BPM. It's not a huge problem, as I'm sure the majority of MX players can play patterns like these, but just thought I'd let you know.
  4. 02:24:052 - I don't know about this ending... I see what you're trying to do here, but it's not really effective x_x That LN in lane 5 has to be held and let go within, what, 21ms? But at the same time, this is probably the best pattern to go for... Try deleting the center lane LN and applying it at the static sound. Or maybe even something like this. Both play better than the original pattern, IMO.
I'm quite busy, so that's all I can check for today T__T I'm sorry
This is an awesome mapset! Please finish Intersection :D
Hope this gets ranked ^^
thanks for mod, i will tell you again when i'm finished fixing it later xD
also, intersection will be unrankable lol, i will remove and make it unsubmitted diff
MMd-
576 posts
Joined October 2012
MMd-
add konzertsaal to tags tq
can't mod o!m, sorry.
Remillion Cross
522 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
Remillion Cross

MMd- wrote:

add konzertsaal to tags tq
can't mod o!m, sorry.
no problem
thanks for info anyway
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