Name: luhgitmuch
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Spyrunite wrote:

I don't believe it's the right way to just count all the points together that a player received throughout the tournament, since some of the maps have got really different attributes (max. combo, style, difficulty) than others, thus resulting in total imbalance. So while players may get 500k points on one map (if they even pass) they could get those 500k by hitting 30 or so notes in a 1k combo. With this system, from my point of view it would be the smartest thing to say: "Why should I bother with passing Cirno's Perfect Math Class if I could get a ton of points by learning to get FC on Netoge Haijin Sprechchor with a lot less effort?"

I would say the way it is makes it more like the way osu actually plays. When you are playing a map for a good rank the only thing that matters is getting a good combo. That's just they way osu was made, and this is an osu tournament. I would also say that the disadvantages of the system you said are worse. In that case you don't actually know how well you did in the tournament overall, all you know is how well you did in your bracket of people. If you get placed In a bracket with really good people then you are last, where you might actually get a half-decent rank.

The only thing I'm not sure if I agree with is the 0 if you fail thing. I'm having to put in some effort to learn to pass some of these songs, which I'm fine with, but I wonder how the people that are worse than me are doing.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT ONLY FC SOME OF THE MAPS!!!! The whole point is that when it comes time to play the tournament, it's a Random Draw using an Online Random Name Generator (Works just as well, because osu! like to pick "Favorites" for Maps). If you FC 6 of the 15 Given Maps, only 7 are played, so If you ignore the other 8, and 6 or all 7 songs are in that 8, you are skrewed. If this method works for you the first time, and you advance, good job, It'll just bite you in the butt the next round, which will have even more songs than before.

me3lingual wrote:

Kyou-kun wrote:

why not just remove the lower levels? a tournament like that would be so boring

Yeah, because that seems fair after CookieAM and I have already been practicing for a week, preparing for the tournament.

The way I understand it, the point of this tournament is to provide a competitive atmosphere for players of all skill levels, not just the ones who are ranked in the Top tier. Sure, we may not be as good as a lot of the others who have entered; but rather than making a comment like the one you made and say that it would be boring, why not use some of the influence you and the other Expert participants have to help advertise the tournament and get more lower-ranked players to participate and make it not "so boring"? Why not get a group together to send messages to players at a rank that would qualify them for one of the lower level tournaments?

Don't fight! Be Happy . The reason I started the Lower Level Tournaments is because I don't see a lot of Tournaments other than Expert/Pro Tournaments, which though there are exceptions, kinda sucks for the people (Like Myself) Who want to compete but can't play at the level of the songs given in a tournament.

[AirCoN] wrote:

Split the expert players into 3 groups or so, keeping the same map pool

So I would end up Having 6 Tournament Groups in the end... *Smashes Abort Button and Jumps off a Burning Ship*

Yauxo wrote:

So I also had one thought about the scoring system (correct me if Iam talking comeplete bull or useless stuffl)

Why dont we take the score and divide it by the maximum possible combo? The scores would be moved to a point where a 500 combo song is somewhat close to a 900 combo song. (atleast closer than osu! score vs osu! score)

Let me give an example:
Marie-Luise has a max combo of x1040. The best no-mod score is 17.724.516. Now, if we calculate that with the "formula" above, we'd have a score of 17042,8 pts
Classical Insanity has a max combo of x412. The best no-mod score is 3.526.596. Doing the same here, we'd have a score of 8559,7 pts

17042 pts - 8559 pts = 8483 pts difference instead of 14.197.920 osu! score. (edit: where the 8k score is ~40-50% and the osu! score doesnt even scratch that)

If Id think some more about it I'd also possibly give an example about not-FC`d maps, but I guess this shows what iam aiming for.

That is an Interesting Point System, the only thing is that I'm not Subtracting scores, only adding. Also How I set it up (At Least in my Head) is that Instead of playing all the Rounds for all the groups and then all the highest all together move on, The highest people (However many I need) from each group move on. Although that is an Interesting formula you set up.

Also, I received an Anonymous message asking if it was fair to have Kyou-Kun participate in the tournament when he is in the Top 100 Worldwide. Just so that others don't message me about this it is absolutely fair for Kyou-Kun to participate. Do not take this example as me making a statement, it's just an example: Let's say that Kyou-Kun cracks under the pressure of the Tournament and misses a combo, and it messes his scores up and then he can't advance on. That's a possibility, and that same thing can happen to any other players in the tournament as well.

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I guess people from rank #1,000 or higher are gonna win, but it would be a nice oportunity to try something new :3

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Looks like it'll be fun!

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It would be a nice oportunity ;3

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I've only been playing for 1 month though, plz go easy on me

That dividing points with mx combo seems like it will take more effort, so I will vote for the 1st place = 7pts system. No matter what tournament you're in, it all depends on match-ups, so that isn't really an excuse either

Yay Kyou-kun, finally a worthy opponent signs up.

Omg azer i watched you beat rrtyui on big black

sobs i wanted to join the Advanced tournament but my rank is a lie
maybe someone have asked this before (or you're getting tired of it) but isn't there any level between Expert and Advanced? ;_; my skill is getting rustyand i don't want to get raped in Expert

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Haha AlpacaCokelat I know what you mean, I'm sure if you are against me you'll at least pass one round in Expert

I do agree though, the difference between Rank 75k and people in the 100s is huge, I'm not sure most people within that bracket can even pass the songs on the list

Name: CBA-ES-CAB
RANK: N#134
Dificult: Expert

Jeromelol wrote:

I do agree though, the difference between Rank 75k and people in the 100s is huge, I'm not sure most people within that bracket can even pass the songs on the list

Well I could tell you how it is for me (right now): I easily pass 9 out of 15 maps, occasionally (or regularly) fail at 3, and never even passed the other 3. Some of the maps have got rather old or weird style and because of the fact that I "learned" this game by playing rather "standard" maps, it's kind of a pain for me. Sometimes I wish that those maps were Talent Shredder, Scarlet Rose or Kokou no Sousei (Collab), since they'd probably be easier to pass (for me personally). Well, but it's also kind of exciting since I get to learn something new (or rather old ^^).

So TL;DR You might be right, lol. ^^ I'd say you shouldn't get discouraged by comparing yourself to others. Just try to have fun practicing the maps, learning stuff and later, playing the tournament. Do your thing and you'll most likely be rewarded.

Yea I definitely agree with you, my point is just that for the sake of having an enjoyment tournament, individuals of as equal as possible skills should be together. Imo the skill range is too large

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[AirCoN] wrote:

Omg azer i watched you beat rrtyui on big black

haha, it was fun.

Jeromelol wrote:

Haha AlpacaCokelat I know what you mean, I'm sure if you are against me you'll at least pass one round in Expert

I do agree though, the difference between Rank 75k and people in the 100s is huge, I'm not sure most people within that bracket can even pass the songs on the list

lol yeah the range is too huge in Expert tourney, many high-seeded players joined in idk i'm not sure whether Me168 will change the rules or not, so i'll just focus on practicing

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i dont wanna play against azer n kyou pls ):

don't worry we don't bite

How about this
We rig it, I win

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time to get pooped on ;w; sounds fun tho :3

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Theres more incentive to lose than to win

Me168 wrote:

Your rank for your Tournament is determined by your points on each map. Once all 7 Maps are played, the Moderator will add the points you received on all of the Maps you qualify for together, and place you in ascending order. If you either Fail a Map or do not have a map that is chosen, you will receive 0 Points for that round. The ranks and Placements will be placed on this page, and Prizes will be given within 1 Week of the day your Tournament Ended. You do NOT need to stay in the room to receive your placement, as the Moderator will need the room to be empty so that the next game, if any, will open.

this is the dumbest rule I've ever seen in a tournament

People who do well at low-scoring maps but not at high-scoring maps will clearly be outscored even if those people are worse overall. Ranked score, anyone? Plus, if all groups aren't playing the same maps, then it will just be a clusterfuck.

Also, unrelated question: Why are all the maps in the tournament so easy? Are those the maps for the whole expert tournament? If so, it doesn't seem like it will be very interesting.

Kyou-kun wrote:

Also, unrelated question: Why are all the maps in the tournament so easy? Are those the maps for the whole expert tournament? If so, it doesn't seem like it will be very interesting.

I think the difficulty of the songs is good. Myself, and a few of my friends in the tournament had most songs that we could do and a few that we couldn't pass and had to learn to beat. Reading the posts in the forum I think there were a few other people like that too. The area of skill of the people in tournament is just to broad to be able to get a maplist that appeals to everyone.

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