Thanks for that tipGimmesoup wrote:
I have a DA 2013, qck+ mousepad from Steelseries, 900 dpi, .7x ingame sens. Polling rate at 500hz I think, but 1000hz should work just fine.
Get a bigger mouse pad and move your arm more.
Thanks for that tipGimmesoup wrote:
I have a DA 2013, qck+ mousepad from Steelseries, 900 dpi, .7x ingame sens. Polling rate at 500hz I think, but 1000hz should work just fine.
Get a bigger mouse pad and move your arm more.
True, but something to also consider is how your mouse handles higher DPI. Some mice start throwing "fake" data at higher DPI, leading to inaccuracy.YayMii wrote:
DPI is mainly personal preference.
Sorry if this is a necropost, (Although I'm fairly confident this isn't) but I heard that the native DPI on the DA2013 is 1800, not 1300. Where did you hear about the optimal dpi being 1300?AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
The best DPI in terms of tracking is 1300 in DA 2013
native dpi isn't necessarily the optimal dpi.Gimmesoup wrote:
Sorry if this is a necropost, (Although I'm fairly confident this isn't) but I heard that the native DPI on the DA2013 is 1800, not 1300. Where did you hear about the optimal dpi being 1300?AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
The best DPI in terms of tracking is 1300 in DA 2013
I understand that, but the native dpi usually does do quite well.Soulg wrote:
native dpi isn't necessarily the optimal dpi.
I'm not questioning this, but I'm still curious as to where he got this information.My bad. I've been lied to. I've done some more in-depth research myself instead of trusting random people.
All of my watNixXSkate wrote:
800x600 resolution
Gatyaa420 wrote:
All of my watNixXSkate wrote:
800x600 resolution
a DA2013 is fine for osu!, just kinda big, whatchu talkin bout[ Obe ] wrote:
I bought the deathadder 2013 around 1 month ago and I have tried many different DPI settings (400~1800), different mousepads (Steelseries qck+, Razer Goliathus)a nd of course I don't use mouse precision (I have always had it off), I have tried using MarkC's mouse fix etc, but I have to say that this mouse doesn't feel all that great for Osu!, it feels somewhat accurate, but not THAT accurate.
I actually regret buying it and after doing a lot of research I realized that I should have bought a tablet or a Logitech G400 or a WMO/IME for Osu! .
Did you turn off mouse acceleration in the control panel mouse settings? If not, then do so. I've recently got the DA2013 and had no acceleration at all while doing my tests. I've been able to aim almost as good as with tablet within playing for a few hours.[ Obe ] wrote:
I bought the deathadder 2013 around 1 month ago and I have tried many different DPI settings (400~1800), different mousepads (Steelseries qck+, Razer Goliathus)a nd of course I don't use mouse precision (I have always had it off), I have tried using MarkC's mouse fix etc, but I have to say that this mouse doesn't feel all that great for Osu!, it feels somewhat accurate, but not THAT accurate.
I actually regret buying it and after doing a lot of research I realized that I should have bought a tablet or a Logitech G400 or a WMO/IME for Osu! .
Everyone says his mouse sucks even though they never used it or know anything about the sensor in it. :IAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
SiLviA's 800x600 was only for this and maybe few more maps. He normally uses 1024x768 playfield.
And his mouse sucks balls
Everyone says his mouse sucks even though they never used it or know anything about the sensor in it. :IThere must be a reason that nobody knows about it. I guess it uses similar sensor to this used in lower tier Logitech mice. Though guessing only.
It probably does, but the ergonomics on it is amazing.I have to agree.
People just assume it sucks since he adjust his hands a lot, but it could just be habit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I have this kind of habit and SiLviA looks like he has it too, though in SiLviA's case you can see it's partly for adjusting the mouse at the same time.
I've always had mouse acceleration off, but I seemed to have problems with my USB ports as their polling rates were overclocked for my previous mice, I uninstalled this and to my surprise I did some mouse tests and you're right, it had completely no accel (it did before).Pancake wrote:
Did you turn off mouse acceleration in the control panel mouse settings? If not, then do so. I've recently got the DA2013 and had no acceleration at all while doing my tests. I've been able to aim almost as good as with tablet within playing for a few hours.
(600 DPI @ 1280x800. Equals 900 DPI @ 1920x1200. Having the control panel mouse speed at 6/11 and osu! ingame at 1.0x.)
1000Hz should be the best polling rate if your PC manages to keep up. If you experience stuttering in your mouse movement, try using a lower polling rate.
DPI completely depends on what mouse you are using (how good it is at a certain DPI) and on where your preferences are.
My main reason is the additional accuracy you get from a smaller DPI. I chose mine (just like with my tablet area) to be the smallest possible where I can still reach every corner of the screen with only wrist and finger movement (claw grip). From my personal experience using my whole arm leads to a lot worse aim, so this seems to be the sweet spot for me.Xcrypt wrote:
I don't get how you all play with so low dpi. I mean, this is osu dammit. In shooters I understand because you don't really need to move crosshair a lot except for making dem turns. But how do you all make hard osu jumps with 400 dpi? I mean your arms must be damn sore after a big black attempt?
I'm playing with 1200 dpi @ 1366x768, and I like it because it is just low enough to use only my wrist for the entire playfield, giving me a speed boost. I don't want to move my arms because that sounds like a lot of work (and it seems slow). I'm still noob though, but it seems like lower dpi don't work well for hard-insane/extra maps, and for anything below that you don't really need the low dpi either. It might help on lower difficulties but you should be able to get to the point where you make 0 misses due to aim on those lower difficulties with 1000-2000 dpi
I think your avatar describes your problem (I do play FPS,too.That's why I use synapse to change my DPI up to 2600.About 6400 DPI,wat...)Xcrypt wrote:
I don't get how you all play with so low dpi. I mean, this is osu dammit. In shooters I understand because you don't really need to move crosshair a lot except for making dem turns. But how do you all make hard osu jumps with 400 dpi? I mean your arms must be damn sore after a big black attempt?
I'm playing with 1200 dpi @ 1366x768, and I like it because it is just low enough to use only my wrist for the entire playfield, giving me a speed boost. I don't want to move my arms because that sounds like a lot of work (and it seems slow). I'm still noob though, but it seems like lower dpi don't work well for hard-insane/extra maps, and for anything below that you don't really need the low dpi either. It might help on lower difficulties but you should be able to get to the point where you make 0 misses due to aim on those lower difficulties with 1000-2000 dpi
I don't get how you all play with so low dp
I don't want to move my arms because that sounds like a lot of work (and it seems slow)
hmm, better than I expected, you're actually playing 95% with wrist, not sure how you manage to do that. But it still seems like a lot of effort. I guess I'll have to conquer my laziness and try it out sometime.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
/me too lazy to search for others low-sens players. Does it really look like I'm putting so much effort? 1024x768 playfield (like yours), 400dpi.
As Amai said, getting used to a certain dpi setting will take some time - it really shouldn't feel "natural" right away. However, it is indeed also true that not everybody seems to excel using lower dpi - Doomsday uses incredibly high dpi if I do remember correctly. I suggest not rejecting a dpi setting simply because it didn't feel natural.Xcrypt wrote:
hmm, better than I expected, you're actually playing 95% with wrist, not sure how you manage to do that. But it still seems like a lot of effort. I guess I'll have to conquer my laziness and try it out sometime.
EDIT:
So I did some tests with 900-600-400 dpi.
900 dpi feels pretty natural, I just have to move my wrist a bit more but I can still reach (almost) the entire playfield
600 dpi hmm, I can do most jumps with wrist but I can't make big ones. Though it does feel like a 10% increase in aim accuracy and I'm not even used to it yet.
400dpi Just no. I can't do any jumps with wrist and I fuck up completely because I have to use arm. It was very exhausting.
I'll see if I can make my 600 dpi feel 100% natural so I can do even the big jumps with wrist, maybe someday I'll be able to transition to 400 dpi.
Just to clear up this myth. The bandwidth or polling rate regarding your USB port has nothing to do with your mouse cutting out. The bandwidth of even USB1.1 (12MB/s) is capable of far more than any mouse can send data at. Your USB controller is pretty much on holiday. The difference is how frequently your mouse is requested to send data. All that matters is if your mouse can support it, and the drivers on your PC for your USB. That big fat image processing value you see advertised on your mouse is all done internally on the mouse, only the resultant counting data is sent to the computer, not the images.PhoenixBird wrote:
For pro mouses i think the best is to use 500Hz polling rate, coz 1000hz in usb 2.0 not supported well and it cut it...so then you play on mouse it feels like you fighting against the mouse(pulls the mouse). But for example on X7 A4tech polling rate 1000hz(in fact lower ~950 i think) so there is no cut of rate. For this type of mouse use 1000hz)
Your PC can most definitely keep up. It's like holding a blade of grass in your hand and calling it heavy.Pancake wrote:
1000Hz should be the best polling rate if your PC manages to keep up.
PCs that have problems supporting USB devices with a polling rate of 1000Hz are more common than you might think. For example, in my desktop you can't plug the keyboard (that works at 1000Hz default) in one of the front USB ports without glitching the audio output of the front panel (while audio works ok with a lower polling rate keyboard).RaneFire wrote:
Your PC can most definitely keep up. It's like holding a blade of grass in your hand and calling it heavy.Pancake wrote:
1000Hz should be the best polling rate if your PC manages to keep up.
Maybe they are. But that is a limitation of PC firmware and drivers, not the USB protocol or the device.Full Tablet wrote:
PCs that have problems supporting USB devices with a polling rate of 1000Hz are more common than you might think. For example, in my desktop you can't plug the keyboard (that works at 1000Hz default) in one of the front USB ports without glitching the audio output of the front panel (while audio works ok with a lower polling rate keyboard).