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RVMathew
The K on Sample.

Hi there. From either Modhelp or Modreq, whichever one.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow everything I say.

San: Since it is a collab with Kyshiro, you could try Kiiraye's San (not that good with names)
I still notice it is not finished yet

1) 00:28:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - For a little bit of a challenge, perhaps you can make the distance between 3 and 4 a little bit larger, and the 2nd set of 1,2 a little bit larger than 3,4 in terms of distance.

2) 00:36:570 (7) - When she says 'Hey', she holds the word 'Hey', so to reflect that, wouldn't it make sense to have a slider here (perhaps 1/2 or 3/4)? You seem to do this everytime, and it feels weird considering that you do this for almost every other difficulty.

Nii
1) AI mod reports unsnapped notes.

2) 00:32:115 (5) - I would rather have the slider start at 00:32:206. It sounds a lot better.

Ichii
Fine

Final thoughts/
1/3 - 1/6 mapping does throw me off admittedly, but I thought it was fine. I did not like the last diff, but since the song feels jumpy, the jumpy feeling in the last diff is justified.

I really could not find much fault with it.

Good luck.

Edit: I apologize for such a short mod. I have not modded in quite a while, so I am out of that modding mentality.
Secretpipe
Gold stuff! c:
dqs01733
good luck
ktgster
IRC Mod that shouldn't have happened but happened
18:09 Liiraye: oh uhh
18:09 Liiraye: if you want
18:09 *Liiraye is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/904742 y0c1e - heiju-do]
18:09 Liiraye: I got this
18:09 Liiraye: eh
18:09 Liiraye: map
18:09 Liiraye: wink
18:09 Liiraye: could only check hardest diff if you're checking
18:10 ktgster: [http://puu.sh/oEdNQ.png *cough*]
18:10 ktgster: wtf is hej-do
18:10 Liiraye: so then I might be your first this year :D
18:10 ktgster: is that even a number?
18:10 Liiraye: hej då
18:10 Liiraye: bye
18:10 Liiraye: in swedish
18:10 Liiraye: \:v/
18:10 Liiraye: can't put å
18:10 Liiraye: cuz osu is a shit
18:10 ktgster: and then you proceed to write 1 to 3 in romanji
18:11 ktgster: kk lets see
18:11 *ktgster is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/904742 y0c1e - heiju-do [hej-do]]
18:11 Liiraye: cuz
18:11 Liiraye: lyrics yo
18:11 Liiraye: cuz the title of the song comes from hey jude
18:12 Liiraye: by the beatles
18:12 Liiraye: then this genius named it heiju-do
18:12 Liiraye: which has become a meme for swedes as it sounds like hej då
18:13 ktgster: HOLY FUCKIGN PHONE
18:13 ktgster: AGAIN
18:13 ktgster: WHDFU
18:13 ktgster: rip my fc
18:16 Liiraye: o
18:16 Liiraye: its not fully hitsounded
18:16 Liiraye: took me a month to hitsound 1 min
18:16 Liiraye: ehehe
18:16 ktgster: k map is perfect
18:16 ktgster: done
18:16 Liiraye: tymen
18:17 ktgster: 02:18:751 - okay but beyond this part, you literally avoided spaced distance snapping
18:18 ktgster: and then this comes along 02:39:479 (2) -
18:18 Liiraye: right
18:19 Liiraye: well thats because the first part is mapped by hanzer 3 years ago
18:19 ktgster: LOL
18:19 Liiraye: the way he mapped it was pretty cool
18:19 Liiraye: I updated all my parts
18:19 Liiraye: he'd rather not change his
18:19 Liiraye: which I think is fine
18:19 Liiraye: you could see it as, towards the second half of the kiai it gets harder
18:20 ktgster: well it'd be better if 02:39:570 (3,4,5,6,7) - weren't so big
18:20 ktgster: after two stanza's, the player just gets used to this super easy kiai
18:21 ktgster: 01:02:479 (1,2,3,1,1,1) - i don't like this
18:22 ktgster: 01:03:842 (2,3,4,1) - and this too
18:22 Liiraye: thats hanzer
18:22 Liiraye: lol
18:22 ktgster: you don't even know its 1/3 to begin with
18:22 Liiraye: idk, its kinda tricky to read but listening to it it makes sense
18:22 ktgster: not to mention, the slow down is a pain to play anyways and you can overstream this 01:02:751 (1,1,1) -
18:23 Liiraye: isnt it 1/3?
18:23 ktgster: i'd be surprised if anyone thought it was 1/3 just by the first 3 notes of this section alone
18:23 Liiraye: mmm
18:23 Liiraye: I guess
18:23 Liiraye: you could talk with hanzer
18:23 Liiraye: he might do some changes
18:23 Liiraye: i dont want to talk for him
18:23 ktgster: also 01:02:751 (1) - would fit more as a circle
18:23 ktgster: same
18:24 ktgster: kk its never going to change
18:24 ktgster: lets move on
18:24 Liiraye: LOL
18:25 Liiraye: I think you have a good point so
18:25 Liiraye: discussing it might end up working something out
18:25 ktgster: o he's actually on
18:25 Liiraye: ye we're kinda talking
18:29 ktgster: and afk
18:30 Liiraye: godaammit
18:31 ktgster: 01:08:206 (1) - as a fellow nazi designer, i will gladly say that this is touching the slider
18:31 Liiraye: :D
18:31 Liiraye: let me
18:31 Liiraye: make it easy for u
18:32 Liiraye: i mapped until first bookmark
18:32 Liiraye: then we switch each bookmark
18:32 ktgster: lol
18:32 Liiraye: ill
18:32 Liiraye: try to get that nigga onl
18:33 ktgster: 01:12:024 (1,2,3,4) - this 1/2 spacing
18:33 ktgster: can i call it trash since it looks like you slapped 4 circles on and call it a day
18:33 Liiraye: wait
18:33 Liiraye: whats wrong with that
18:33 Liiraye: :DDD
18:34 Liiraye: 01:12:206 (2,3,4,1) - this is the separate pattern
18:34 ktgster: 01:12:024 (1,2) - 1.95x spacing
18:34 Liiraye: you're supposed to do the flickadarist
18:34 Liiraye: the flickadawriist
18:34 ktgster: 01:12:297 (3,4) - 1.48 spacing
18:35 ktgster: [http://puu.sh/oEf75.jpg which in that case, you could just angle it higher
18:35 Liiraye: well
18:35 Liiraye: since when are we following spacing :D
18:35 Liiraye: rip
18:36 ktgster: i see spacing everywhere
18:36 ktgster: like uhh, this set 01:13:297 (4,1) -
18:36 ktgster: being similar with 01:12:570 (1,2) -
18:37 Liiraye: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5065154
18:37 Liiraye: this is kinda better innit
18:37 ktgster: ok
18:38 ktgster: 01:14:206 (4) - uhh why isn't this NC'd?
18:38 Liiraye: o
18:38 Liiraye: ncs are a bit iffuy
18:38 Liiraye: but thanks for pointing it out
18:38 Liiraye: was planning on finecombing it but it helps
18:38 ktgster: kk ignoring NC's then
18:39 ktgster: 01:15:297 (6,7,8) - can i just say, straight lines are bad
18:39 ktgster: 01:20:206 (1,2,3,1) - even this pattern is easier
18:40 Liiraye: u think?
18:40 ktgster: although thats probably an opinion, but wtf is that spacing 01:15:024 (5,6) -
18:40 ktgster: and the angle is like kasplat pls
18:41 Liiraye: ok
18:41 Liiraye: i got it
18:41 Liiraye: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5065171
18:41 Liiraye: perfect
18:41 ktgster: i can't tell if you made it harder or better
18:41 ktgster: but okay
18:42 Liiraye: it
18:42 Liiraye: actually plays better
18:42 Liiraye: cuz now u go straight down
18:42 Liiraye: instead of going to the left then right
18:42 ktgster: 01:17:479 (3,2) - blanket problem
18:43 Liiraye: nice
18:43 ktgster: 01:19:842 (4) - i'd would probably place this to the left instead
18:43 ktgster: kinda fits the song better imo
18:43 ktgster: 01:20:751 (2) - ....
18:46 Liiraye: ok fixed
18:46 ktgster: 01:26:297 (4) - so uhh, why is this a slider?
18:46 ktgster: i think the last time i heard this type of rhythm, it was uhh blank?
18:47 Liiraye: I dont think
18:47 Liiraye: that sound exists before
18:47 ktgster: im just more triggered by the sliderend
18:47 ktgster: anyways
18:48 ktgster: 01:32:479 (2,3,1) - spacing 101?
18:48 Liiraye: its uhhh
18:48 Liiraye: emphasizing
18:48 Liiraye: uhh
18:48 Liiraye: xD
18:49 ktgster: k what else can i find
18:50 ktgster: 02:05:479 (4,5,6,7) - this was a bit hard to read, just saying
18:51 ktgster: also this is the first time you started to put notes under sliders
18:51 Liiraye: mm
18:51 Liiraye: im kinda stuck at that point
18:51 Liiraye: not sure what to do there
18:51 ktgster: well even im not sure
18:51 ktgster: like what do you like, want this to play as
18:52 Liiraye: gimmicky and fun
18:52 ktgster: this plays JUST LIKE IT
18:52 Liiraye: yey :D
18:53 ktgster: most likely, you would want to move this somewhere 02:05:751 (6,7) -
18:53 Liiraye: o hanzer is taking a final atm
18:53 Liiraye: lol
18:53 ktgster: AND HE'S PLAYING A MAP ANYWAYS
18:53 ktgster: gg
18:53 Liiraye: lmao
18:53 Liiraye: http://puu.sh/oEg2M/39756a0261.jpg
18:54 Liiraye: best solution if you're stuck on a question
18:54 Liiraye: play some oss
18:54 ktgster: good idea
18:54 ktgster: 02:13:933 (5,1) - this could be a bit lower for a better angle to play at
18:54 ktgster: that or just raise this higher 02:13:661 (2,3,4) -
18:55 ktgster: 02:13:661 (2,3,4) - not a perfect stack
18:55 ktgster: and well thats about it
18:56 ktgster: pretty nice map
18:56 ktgster: not really the person for wubs though
18:58 Liiraye: thanks dude
18:58 ktgster: also i played the whole map thinking it was 1/4
18:59 Liiraye: lol
19:00 Liiraye: u can post
19:00 Liiraye: 4 juicy 2 kd
Vivyanne
smallest irc mod e v e r
map too perfect for people like me

zzz
2016-05-31 18:03 HighTec: uh ok so imma try
2016-05-31 18:03 HighTec: to see whats wrong in hej-do
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: ill change it to hey jude
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: the diffname
2016-05-31 18:04 HighTec: ayylmao
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: kinda makes more sense
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: its actually a cover from hey jude
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: from that grill who voiced yui in k-on
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: some complex shit
2016-05-31 18:04 HighTec: aah
2016-05-31 18:04 Liiraye: then remixed
2016-05-31 18:04 HighTec: so the beginning of the map seems kinda unneeded
2016-05-31 18:04 HighTec: because of the break
2016-05-31 18:05 Liiraye: but its necessary
2016-05-31 18:05 Liiraye: the pause needs to be heard
2016-05-31 18:05 Liiraye: not skipped
2016-05-31 18:05 Liiraye: :D
2016-05-31 18:05 HighTec: fine (^:
2016-05-31 18:05 Liiraye: also shiirn is doing the hitsounds atm so ignore them
2016-05-31 18:05 HighTec: sure
2016-05-31 18:05 HighTec: i never cry about hitsounds anyways :')
2016-05-31 18:06 HighTec: 00:45:024 (1,2) - i feel like you can space these out more
2016-05-31 18:06 HighTec: as it are two seperate parts in the song
2016-05-31 18:07 Liiraye: GOOD POINT!
2016-05-31 18:07 Liiraye: post for kd
2016-05-31 18:07 Liiraye: jk
2016-05-31 18:07 Liiraye: i actually like that
2016-05-31 18:07 HighTec: nice meme
2016-05-31 18:07 Liiraye: sry im just hyped cuz im actually getting the hitsounds done finally
2016-05-31 18:08 HighTec: \o/
2016-05-31 18:08 Liiraye: you have no idea how long I've wrestled with it
2016-05-31 18:08 HighTec: 00:56:206 (2,3) - this will probs be a part that a lot of people will somehow misread, would make the jump a bit bigger
2016-05-31 18:08 HighTec: making maybe something like [http://puu.sh/pbDYK/1380ed4e80.jpg this] from 00:56:388 (3,4) -
2016-05-31 18:09 Liiraye: sure
2016-05-31 18:09 HighTec: hue i can imagine your hype
2016-05-31 18:09 HighTec: took you long enough tbh
2016-05-31 18:09 Liiraye: its just, i promised I'd rank this years ago and still
2016-05-31 18:09 HighTec: 01:01:933 (2,1) - i personally think a return slider here is better as it's mapped to the same sound
2016-05-31 18:09 Liiraye: procrastinating even my hobby
2016-05-31 18:09 HighTec: well i already see potential so (^:
2016-05-31 18:09 Liiraye: is bad right
2016-05-31 18:10 HighTec: uh
2016-05-31 18:10 HighTec: i do that too so xd
2016-05-31 18:10 HighTec: that's when u learn never to promise anything (^:
2016-05-31 18:10 Liiraye: yup yup
2016-05-31 18:11 HighTec: 01:14:388 (1,2,3,4) - why is the spacing between (1,2) and (3,4) different while it's the same sound?
2016-05-31 18:12 HighTec: 01:29:206 (2,3,4) - just personal as it's nothing bad but would make a little curve in these so that it connects a little better to 01:29:479 (1) -
2016-05-31 18:12 Liiraye: its supposed to be that way
2016-05-31 18:12 Liiraye: could increase 1,2 a bit tho
2016-05-31 18:12 HighTec: would make it more logical
2016-05-31 18:13 Liiraye: but they were supposed to be like that, increasing
2016-05-31 18:13 Liiraye: playing it makes more sense
2016-05-31 18:13 Liiraye: the snap feeling that is
2016-05-31 18:14 HighTec: mhm
2016-05-31 18:14 Liiraye: hm
2016-05-31 18:14 Liiraye: ill think about that second one, I personally think it plays really fun, but I've gotten comments on it
2016-05-31 18:14 Liiraye: I really like that part tho
2016-05-31 18:14 Liiraye: gonna try something out
2016-05-31 18:14 HighTec: it's a personal thing
2016-05-31 18:15 HighTec: 02:43:933 (2) - this note is invisible because of the slider structure fix pls ;w;
2016-05-31 18:16 HighTec: dude
2016-05-31 18:16 HighTec: the map is so flawless
2016-05-31 18:16 HighTec: can't find more!
2016-05-31 18:17 Liiraye: :DD
2016-05-31 18:17 Liiraye: thanks yo
2016-05-31 18:17 HighTec: a m a z i n g map
2016-05-31 18:17 HighTec: love the creativity
Nyari
irc mod
20:12 Liiraye: njary
20:12 Liiraye: kan man lita på dina god tier skills
20:12 Liiraye: och be om en mod
20:12 Nyari: på vad
20:12 *Liiraye is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/904742 y0c1e - heiju-do]
20:16 Nyari: 00:26:751 (1) - jag tror inte att det här är lagligt
20:16 Liiraye: jorå!
20:17 Liiraye: det är 2016
20:17 Nyari: sant
20:18 Liiraye: there are no limits
20:18 Nyari: 01:54:297 (2,3,4,5) - det här kommer väl någon slå dig på fingrarna på
20:18 Nyari: xaxaxa flow etc
20:18 Liiraye: xddd
20:18 Liiraye: det är hanzers del
20:19 Liiraye: om ngn bn eller QAT tar upp det så plingar jag honom
20:21 Nyari: 01:09:842 (1) - jag vet inte om jag tycker om dessa delarna
20:21 Nyari: tror att det kanske bara är bättre att göra dem till repeat sliders
20:21 Nyari: för att det låter konstigt med hitsounds
20:21 Liiraye: ah tack för att du sa det, ska fixa strax
20:21 Liiraye: de håller på att hitsoundas
20:21 Liiraye: shiirn håller på atm
20:22 Liiraye: därför jag inte kan specca heller, han skickar mig hela osu filen så jag måste lägga in den innan jag ändrar saker
20:22 Liiraye: men om du hittar grejjor kan jag fixat senare
20:22 Nyari: aa då det är lugnt
20:23 Nyari: antar att shiirn redan har moddat den
20:24 Nyari: jag vet inte om jag är ett fan av att bryta upp kiaien
20:24 Nyari: det verkar lite inconsistent typ
20:25 Nyari: annars så är det en gosig map =w=b +1
20:27 Liiraye: hur menar du
20:28 Liiraye: :p
20:28 Liiraye: ty
20:28 Nyari: det är ju typ en halv sekunds hål i kiaierna
20:28 Liiraye: aha det är lugnt
20:29 Liiraye: man får göra så
20:29 Liiraye: det är så att man får lite mer OOMPF när man kör
20:29 Nyari: aaa ok
DeRandom Otaku
SICK

Edit : Add "glitch hop" in tags owo
Topic Starter
Liiraye

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

SICK

Edit : Add "glitch hop" in tags owo

yooo thanks dude! Genre is typically for the QAT to set once it gets ranked iirc?
skrungly
hi (づ•◡•)づ

btw for Ichi, it's recommended to have used distance snap and stuff, but it's fine

Nii

This is mostly personal preference

00:24:570 (2,1) - the overlap doesn't look particulary nice imo
00:41:479 (1,2) - same here
01:10:933 (3,4) - lel here too

-- are these intended to look like this?

01:14:751 (4) - this slider felt weird to play
01:37:115 (5,6) - weird overlap again
01:40:933 (3,4) - you get the idea ^,^
01:46:388 (4) - another one which felt unusual to play

-- sliders op

02:10:661 (7,1) - this isn't too bad, but just decided to point it out



thats all im gonna do cuz im tired and stuff

gud luck

(∩⪰◡⪯)⊃━☆゚.* whoosh
DeRandom Otaku
ooo idk but i guess the genre of song is important to be in tags ... maybe cuz it makes it easier to search for songs while the map is not ranked
Topic Starter
Liiraye
mm seeing as someone already has put a genre in it, glitch hop might be helpful in tags
GoldenWolf
SILENCE the sliderends of the last sliders
-Visceral-
I was shipped in here by the Haxwell Mafioso so here's your mod.

[General]
  1. Disable countdown
  2. You still need to remove the heiju.png file because it isn't used.
  3. Why does the AR jump from 3 to 8 between Ichi and Nii? Way too big of a jump...
[Hey Jude]
  1. 00:01:312 - There's a green line here that serves no purpose from what I can see.
  2. 00:26:751 (1) - This slider seems fairly unrankable. It's not quite a burai slider but it overlaps itself in such a sharp angle that it appears as one while playing. I recommend you don't have this overlap as hard because it's unneedingly difficult to read.
  3. 00:53:479 (3,4) - Just double check to make sure this is rankable, since 3 completely covers the head of 4. Also check these:
  4. 01:10:933 (3,4) -
  5. 01:02:751 (1,1,1) - Not sure why the 2nd circle has a NC on it. Also, just wanna make sure you know that the spacing is uneven.. not sure if it's intentional.
  6. 01:28:115 (4,5,1) - You could space these out a bit because the 1/6 is really hard to read. Also consider it here:
  7. 02:37:933 (5,6,1) -
  8. 01:39:933 - There's a pretty loud beep noise here that deserves to be mapped.
  9. 01:43:570 (2,1,1,2,1,1) - Check up on your rhythm here. If you're mapping to either the beeps or the percussion, you missed some stuff that could've been mapped. It just doesn't seem like this section follows the song.
  10. 01:55:115 (1,2) - Try this rhythm instead: http://i.imgur.com/KigQ1eM.png Also consider it in these as well:
    02:12:570 (4,5) -
  11. 02:03:297 (3,4) - The transition between these two sliders feels too sharp and awkward. I don't think such a sharp change in flow is fitting here, not to mention its already very hard to read because most of 4 is covered by 3.
  12. 02:04:933 (2) - NC here because of the change in slider velocity and for consistency.
  13. 02:16:933 (6) - NC because of the velocity change too?
  14. 02:21:842 - This here can follow the rhythm of 02:26:206 because it's the same sound.
[Ichi]
Alright, so in a diff this easy, you need to keep spacing consistent. It's all over the place currently. You're gonna get shit for it not being consistent throughout from BNs and in its current state I'm worried about its rankability.
Fatfan Kolek
noobmod, you decide if it's kudosu worthy :d yee, it's short, don't know how to mod this properly

[Ichi]
  1. 01:02:751 (6,1) - this is too stacked imo, looks a bit weird on a lower difficulty and might cause readabililty problems? :o
  2. 01:40:388 (5) - put a circle on 01:40:933 - for a better emphasis i'd say instead of a reverseslider
Mhh, standard normal diff i'd say, looked a bit boring though because of the constant 1/2 rhythm choices

[Nii]
  1. 00:27:842 (4) - NC with a SV here would fit
  2. 00:33:661 (4) - Ctrl+J here? looks better to me, the whole pattern in general here looks weird, i'd make it more like that http://puu.sh/pluKU/693072b6ce.jpg
  3. 00:37:661 (2) - there has to be a cooler rhythm choice than a 1/2 slider :D
[San]
  1. 01:10:934 (1) - Inconsistent NC with 00:53:479 (3) -
[Hey Jude]
  1. 00:30:842 (2,3) - I find things like this hard to read because of the long combos.
  2. 01:54:570 (5) - NC missing here?
MokouSmoke
[General]
  1. 00:02:437 - 00:02:624 - sounds early to me, especially 00:02:624 (4) - I think you might need another timing point
  2. it's still rankable, but you could try to cut out some of the unmapped outro to reduce file size. For example, you could just fade out the music after the spinner like this http://puu.sh/poZhN/5835798e59.mp3 (you would need to readjust the offset if you use this one)
  3. missing hitsounds for lower diffs nvm, i'm guessing it's still WIP since highest diff is also missing hitsounds for half the map
  4. I would swap the order of some your combo colors since the three orange ones are petty similar http://puu.sh/pp0m0/f72bd83695.jpg
[Hey Nube]
  1. might be a nice visual effect to color-hax this diff so slow or fast sliders have a certain combo color to represent them
  2. some of your 1/6 stacks have NC on the top note and others have NC on the bottom note. not sure if intentional or not. Same with San diff
  3. 00:21:024 (3,4,5) - prefer DS here or bigger spacing between 00:21:388 (5,6) - to make rhythm more clear. I see this pattern all the time in tv-size maps where everything is 1/2 rhythm, so I instantly thought that 00:21:024 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - was all 1/6 spacing here instead of a mix of 1/3 and 1/6 :roll:
  4. 01:40:115 (1,2) - would prefer slightly bigger spacing here
  5. nice
[San]
  1. 00:23:933 - maybe add a note here. There's a more distinct sound on the the beat than at other places
  2. 00:53:479 (1) - 02:03:297 (1) - 02:20:751 (1) - etc... remove NC. The vocalist is literally saying 1-2-3
  3. 01:40:388 (6) - NC. It would be nice to keep combo number in single digits imo
  4. good
[Nii]
  1. 00:33:479 (3) - ctrl+g so spacing between 00:33:024 (2,3) - more clear
  2. 00:38:388 (4,5) - reposition this a little so spacing between 00:38:478 (5,6) - is something like ~2.1x imo since slider leniency makes this distance feel smaller than it actually is
  3. 00:49:661 (5,1) - looks better if you auto-stack, like at 01:05:206 (8,1) - 01:07:115 (5,1) -
[Ichi]
  1. 00:18:249 - pulling out all the stops with that custom break time
  2. 1.3DS would avoid all those touchy overlaps and make spread a little more even but then you would need to remap kappa
  3. 01:19:661 (7,8) - 02:29:479 (7,8) - try changing both to 1/2 sliders to capture more sounds? song feels kinda intense here
  4. 01:45:842 (3,4) - i'm getting triggered. move this to [238,178] for perfect square
  5. 02:18:570 (1) - 02:31:661 (1) - remove NC
  6. 02:25:115 (1,2) - swap NC
  7. 02:37:115 (1,2,3,4) - use ctrl+> man
  8. 01:00:024 (2,3) - 01:05:479 (3,4) - 02:15:297 (3,4) - 02:43:661 (1,2) - blanket better if you care
  9. yeah your higher diffs I didn't really comment on NC patterns since I didn't understand it, but here, the inconsistencies in your NC patterns are pretty obvious if you compare similar parts of song such as the two kiai sections
Flow and rhythms are pretty nice and mapset looks fairly polished already. GL~
DJMax
Form my modding queue.
Better use standard diff names, I dont know if it is rankable that you using the current diff names.
Ichi
00:22:933 (4,2) - Better not to overlap in easy
some notes are too far from each other. I recommend to make the distance smaller.
01:18:570 (4,5,6) - too hard for easy. recommend to replace by a reverse slider.
01:24:024 (5,6,7) - same
02:28:388 (3,4,5) - ↑
02:33:842 (5,6,7) - ↑(you can ignore this if others think this is ok)
02:33:842 (5,6,7,1) - you can blanket better bro
Nii
00:00:572 (1,1) - why there's two nc. And again, blanket
00:24:570 (2) - nice one
00:34:297 (6,8) - better not touch
00:39:842 (2) - better if overlap on 00:40:024 (3) - or it would very hard to recognize the distance between others
00:38:751 - why ignore the beats in the same place of other parts here
01:22:115 (6,1) - bettter not touch
01:37:115 (5,6) - ↑
01:42:751 (1,2,3) - why distance of these objects are different
01:53:206 (7,1) - not touch
San
00:37:388 (2) - better to blanket, I noticed that this slider is copied form the previous one, so try to adjust the previous one.
Actually I prefer make all the distance looks like the same, so maybe you can try it
01:00:570 (2) - move downward a little bit to blanket with 01:00:843 (3) -
the Highest diff is very good
good luck
Btw I dont like to use English to mod because usually there's some mappers dont understand what im saying
chainpullz
Is 2017 going to be the year all of HanzeR's 2013 maps start getting ranked? :^)
Topic Starter
Liiraye
mby loved if people throw kd at it :p
chainpullz

Liiraye wrote:

mby loved if people throw kd at it :p
If it ever hits high enough *priority that I have enough kds to shoot it up to 100 hit me up and I'll do it.
Kencho
[General]
  1. Combo colour 2 and 3, 5 and 7 are quite approximate, I don't suggest this. http://puu.sh/uhH7k/39d592f818.png
  2. drum-hitwhistle2.wav with possible delay > 5ms
    https://puu.sh/uhHt8/4c4e26d77e.png
  3. The spinner of each diff, 00:02:999 (1) - Imo it should be extend to 00:04:374 -
  4. 00:06:249 (1) - And this one should be start on 00:06:312 - and end on 00:07:624 -

[Ichi]
  1. 00:24:570 (2) - DS too far
  2. 00:46:933 (2) - ^
  3. 00:48:024 (3) - ^
  4. 01:14:206 (4) - ^

[Nii]
  1. 01:28:297 (5) - 02:38:115 (4) - I recommended you use circle instead of reverse slider. Since 1/12 reverse slider is quite difficult.

[San]
  1. Looks good.

[Hey Jude]
  1. 00:19:661 - Timing lines with different setting.(custom set number)
  2. 02:39:297 (5,1) - Swap NC?
Quite nice map, call me back when you are ready.
Topic Starter
Liiraye
All issues addressed!
Kencho
Everything looks good
Bubbled!
DeRandom Otaku
is it finally happening

btw why not move to pending?
Topic Starter
Liiraye
u better believe it :D
Okoratu
popped until you properly reply to forum mods as per the Code of Conduct
Naxess
Greetings

Was going to see previous responses and stuff to get a feel for what you've got going but looks like most are missing, so you should respond to those. I'll just quickly look over the easier difficulties in the meantime.


  • [General]
  1. Where did you get your metadata from?

    [Ichi]
  2. 00:01:312 (1) - This and 00:00:572 (1) - are pretty similar sounds, and are also in the same measure musically, and as such it would make sense if they were grouped together in the same combo. I realize there's an uninherited section here, but it doesn't deviate that badly. Basically remove the NC on 00:01:312 (1) - . Goes for the other difficulties as well.
  3. 00:19:661 (1,1) - Why would the combo change between these but not 00:21:842 (3,4) - ? Would probably make more sense if the NC on 00:20:751 (1) - were to be moved to 00:21:842 (3) - instead. If not, 00:22:933 (4) - would have one, but that would look a bit odd in my opinion.
  4. 01:17:479 (2,3,4) - This is quite clearly different in the song to 01:18:570 (5,6,7) - , so for contrast, I'd suggest you change this first one into a circle and slider, in consistency with 01:13:115 (2,3) - . Also happens at 02:27:297 (2,3,4) - and 02:44:751 (2,3,4) - .
  5. 01:31:661 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - I feel like this 1/2 train might be a bit much. Generally new players will find a lot of trouble in consecutive sliders like this, so changing 01:33:297 (7) - to a circle could solve this, as well as emphasizing the vocals. Same goes for 01:37:661 - .
  6. 01:46:388 - Guessing there's a missed clap here.
  7. Speaking of hitsounding, why are 01:34:388 - 01:47:479 - different, but 01:47:479 - 01:42:024 - the same? I mean using the same hitsounds for different sounds and different hitsounds for same sounds makes very little sense in regards to audible feedback. Either stick to using a pattern or stick to reflecting specific sounds with the hitsounds, right now it seems quite inconsistent. I'd think the more prominent sounds like claps would be consistent at the very least.
  8. 00:29:751 - I'd also think some whistles like 00:28:933 - would be used on the sliders ahead of it in a pattern as well, and not right after a downbeat the first time and right before the next 00:32:206 - . Well, there's some things to look into here I guess. Would really like for the hitsounds to be more consistent, within their relative sections, if possible. By consistent I mean in accordance with the song, so sounds should preferably be reflected equally throughout the same section, etc, you get the idea.
  9. 02:51:842 (7,1,2,3) - This part seems to stand out a bit much due to being different from the rest, while there's nothing in the music suggesting this. If you're trying to go for variation, implement this in some previous pattern as well so it doesn't come so suddenly. Otherwise change 02:51:297 - to a 1/1 slider, 02:52:115 - to a circle, 02:52:388 (1,2,3) - to a 1/1 slider and 02:53:479 (9) - to a circle and slider. Refer to 02:42:570 - .

    [Nii]
  10. 00:28:933 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Section could get quite confusing due to having multiple layers followed at the same time and switched between frequently. 00:28:661 - and 00:28:933 - are followed in the beginning, but get ignored at 00:30:024 - in exchange for the sound on 00:29:933 - , which was not followed at 00:28:842 - . Alright, so it switches. That's okay, but afterwards it switches again. Suddenly 00:31:024 - is ignored again and 00:31:115 - is prioritized. Then at 00:32:115 - , 00:32:206 - is skipped again. I sort of get what you're doing here, but in practice, especially for a Hard difficulty, it's going to be quite unexpected. I'd recommend you either only follow one layer, or only switch between measures. Look at what was done in the insane difficulty here, for instance. Much more predictable.
  11. 00:34:297 (6) - Looks a bit odd after 00:33:479 (3,4,5) - , since it still has that sound at 00:34:388 - . Don't really see the point in having things differ like that without any cues for it.
  12. 00:38:751 - Skipping a sound this prominent is probably not a good idea. May be that players mistake it for being 00:38:933 - or similar, thus hurting the gameplay experience. Even just adding a circle here would make it much better in terms of rhythm. This applies to 00:43:115 - , 00:47:479 - , 00:51:842 - and so on as well, so make sure to check over this thoroughly.
  13. 00:46:388 (2,3) - Very slight overlap going on here.
  14. 01:11:479 (1) - This combo color has not appeared in Ichi, nor does it even have them. Ichi and San have the same color sets, but Hey Jude and Nii doesn't... hmmm. For the sake of consistency throughout the mapset you could try mashing them all together into one color set and then using the colorhaxing stuff for all difficulties.

    [San]
  15. 00:28:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Not quite sure what you're going for with these combos, but I'd think having this whole back and forth section the same combo would make more sense, right?
  16. Also speaking of that section, I still have no clue what you're doing with your hitsounds lol. Finishes look really randomly placed, may catch people off-guard and make it seem like they missed some note or clicked too early or something. Not really preferable.

  17. Going to wait until I can see the responses to mods before modding further.
Might want to recheck your hitsounding to make sure it's all consistent and makes sense with the song. From what I can see, it looks quite inconsistent as it is, and loses a lot of relevance to the song like this. Would like to hear what the idea behind it is as well, so I can cater my suggestions towards improving that concept. I'm guessing kiai and non-kiai is how the hitsound collab was arranged?

I'll return to see how things have been going and potentially help out with hitsounding and stuff later, after mods have gotten their replies.

@Kencho let's wait with rebubbling this until then
GoldenWolf
Okoratu
the post goldenwolf is linking above actually does contain feedback it's just hidden in transparent-colored text
Topic Starter
Liiraye
shiirn

Shiirn wrote:

Suggestions
Major suggestions
Aesthetic suggestions
Unrankable issues

Modding only top diff for efficiency's sake. also, 3 days too early for 2kd, oh well, ill make up for my lack of quantity by losing some quality.

heiju-do
  1. 00:01:978 - there is no beat here wtf soft set this or change to circle
  2. 00:23:479 (4) - spacing way too high lol pls stick it on top of 5
  3. 00:26:751 (2) - too burai
  4. 00:31:570 (6) - nc
  5. 00:44:661 (4) - spacing way too high lol pls stick it on the right of 5
  6. 01:02:751 (1,1,1) - unreadable speed change
  7. 01:05:479 (1,1) - blanket this better wehehehe
  8. 01:28:115 (4,5,1) - you are going to make some players very unhappy. i approve
  9. 01:50:751 (1,1) - nice blanket nerd
  10. 01:51:297 (1,1) - ^ triggernaut
  11. 02:13:024 (6) - is better stacked naer the 1 imo
  12. 02:15:024 (6,1) - you're worse at blankets than i am
  13. 02:41:933 (4,5) - this is easily the most unreadable pattern in the entire map holy shit. move that 4 somewhere else so it doesnt look like 234 is a triangular pattern
ALL FIXED!

RVMathew

RVMathew wrote:

The K on Sample.

Hi there. From either Modhelp or Modreq, whichever one.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow everything I say.

San: Since it is a collab with Kyshiro, you could try Kiiraye's San (not that good with names) denied, the names follow a specific theme, I'd prefer leaving it as is, he is credited in tags and discription.
I still notice it is not finished yet

1) 00:28:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - For a little bit of a challenge, perhaps you can make the distance between 3 and 4 a little bit larger, and the 2nd set of 1,2 a little bit larger than 3,4 in terms of distance. denied, there is no change in the music to warrant an increase in spacing, this is good as is.

2) 00:36:570 (7) - When she says 'Hey', she holds the word 'Hey', so to reflect that, wouldn't it make sense to have a slider here (perhaps 1/2 or 3/4)? You seem to do this everytime, and it feels weird considering that you do this for almost every other difficulty. Denied, it can also be emphasized by leaving it blank as it is, this is kyshiros twist and I like it.

Nii
1) AI mod reports unsnapped notes.

2) 00:32:115 (5) - I would rather have the slider start at 00:32:206. It sounds a lot better. fair point, but i have to pass, I'm undermapping to make it more playable as a hard diff, it will be pretty hard if I map all these parts including the double before it which I'd have to since that the sound i follow

Ichii
Fine

Final thoughts/
1/3 - 1/6 mapping does throw me off admittedly, but I thought it was fine. I did not like the last diff, but since the song feels jumpy, the jumpy feeling in the last diff is justified.

I really could not find much fault with it.

Good luck.

Edit: I apologize for such a short mod. I have not modded in quite a while, so I am out of that modding mentality.

Thanks! Accepted what I didnt deny.

kingdom5500

kingdom5500 wrote:

hi (づ•◡•)づ

btw for Ichi, it's recommended to have used distance snap and stuff, but it's fine

Nii

This is mostly personal preference

00:24:570 (2,1) - the overlap doesn't look particulary nice imo
00:41:479 (1,2) - same here
01:10:933 (3,4) - lel here too don't agree here but the others are changed, I think this is fine

-- are these intended to look like this?

01:14:751 (4) - this slider felt weird to play looks nice tho!
01:37:115 (5,6) - weird overlap again
01:40:933 (3,4) - you get the idea ^,^ overlap here is needed cuz spacing is pretty low
01:46:388 (4) - another one which felt unusual to play looks nice too!

-- sliders op

02:10:661 (7,1) - this isn't too bad, but just decided to point it out



thats all im gonna do cuz im tired and stuff

gud luck

(∩⪰◡⪯)⊃━☆゚.* whoosh
Thanks for the mod! again accepted all I didnt reply to.

smoothie

Smoothie World wrote:

I was shipped in here by the Haxwell Mafioso so here's your mod.

[General]
  1. Disable countdown
  2. You still need to remove the heiju.png file because it isn't used.
  3. Why does the AR jump from 3 to 8 between Ichi and Nii? Way too big of a jump...
[Hey Jude]
  1. 00:01:312 - There's a green line here that serves no purpose from what I can see.
  2. 00:26:751 (1) - This slider seems fairly unrankable. It's not quite a burai slider but it overlaps itself in such a sharp angle that it appears as one while playing. I recommend you don't have this overlap as hard because it's unneedingly difficult to read.
  3. 00:53:479 (3,4) - Just double check to make sure this is rankable, since 3 completely covers the head of 4. Also check these:
  4. 01:10:933 (3,4) -
  5. 01:02:751 (1,1,1) - Not sure why the 2nd circle has a NC on it. Also, just wanna make sure you know that the spacing is uneven.. not sure if it's intentional.
  6. 01:28:115 (4,5,1) - You could space these out a bit because the 1/6 is really hard to read. Also consider it here:
  7. 02:37:933 (5,6,1) -
  8. 01:39:933 - There's a pretty loud beep noise here that deserves to be mapped.
  9. 01:43:570 (2,1,1,2,1,1) - Check up on your rhythm here. If you're mapping to either the beeps or the percussion, you missed some stuff that could've been mapped. It just doesn't seem like this section follows the song.
  10. 01:55:115 (1,2) - Try this rhythm instead: http://i.imgur.com/KigQ1eM.png Also consider it in these as well:
    02:12:570 (4,5) -
  11. 02:03:297 (3,4) - The transition between these two sliders feels too sharp and awkward. I don't think such a sharp change in flow is fitting here, not to mention its already very hard to read because most of 4 is covered by 3.
  12. 02:04:933 (2) - NC here because of the change in slider velocity and for consistency.
  13. 02:16:933 (6) - NC because of the velocity change too?
  14. 02:21:842 - This here can follow the rhythm of 02:26:206 because it's the same sound.
[Ichi]
Alright, so in a diff this easy, you need to keep spacing consistent. It's all over the place currently. You're gonna get shit for it not being consistent throughout from BNs and in its current state I'm worried about its rankability.
Applied everything listed, about the normal diff, I did fix things up as discussed in terms of consistency.

fatfan

Fatfan Kolek wrote:

noobmod, you decide if it's kudosu worthy :d yee, it's short, don't know how to mod this properly

[Ichi]
  1. 01:02:751 (6,1) - this is too stacked imo, looks a bit weird on a lower difficulty and might cause readabililty problems? :o
  2. 01:40:388 (5) - put a circle on 01:40:933 - for a better emphasis i'd say instead of a reverseslider
Mhh, standard normal diff i'd say, looked a bit boring though because of the constant 1/2 rhythm choices

[Nii]
  1. 00:27:842 (4) - NC with a SV here would fit
  2. 00:33:661 (4) - Ctrl+J here? looks better to me, the whole pattern in general here looks weird, i'd make it more like that http://puu.sh/pluKU/693072b6ce.jpg
  3. 00:37:661 (2) - there has to be a cooler rhythm choice than a 1/2 slider :D
[San]
  1. 01:10:934 (1) - Inconsistent NC with 00:53:479 (3) -
[Hey Jude]
  1. 00:30:842 (2,3) - I find things like this hard to read because of the long combos.
  2. 01:54:570 (5) - NC missing here?
Thanks, I changed up ncs after this post, it's in order now, accepted everything!

MokouSmoke

MokouSmoke wrote:

[General]
  1. 00:02:437 - 00:02:624 - sounds early to me, especially 00:02:624 (4) - I think you might need another timing point
  2. it's still rankable, but you could try to cut out some of the unmapped outro to reduce file size. For example, you could just fade out the music after the spinner like this http://puu.sh/poZhN/5835798e59.mp3 (you would need to readjust the offset if you use this one)
  3. missing hitsounds for lower diffs nvm, i'm guessing it's still WIP since highest diff is also missing hitsounds for half the map
  4. I would swap the order of some your combo colors since the three orange ones are petty similar http://puu.sh/pp0m0/f72bd83695.jpg
[Hey Nube]
  1. might be a nice visual effect to color-hax this diff so slow or fast sliders have a certain combo color to represent them
  2. some of your 1/6 stacks have NC on the top note and others have NC on the bottom note. not sure if intentional or not. Same with San diff
  3. 00:21:024 (3,4,5) - prefer DS here or bigger spacing between 00:21:388 (5,6) - to make rhythm more clear. I see this pattern all the time in tv-size maps where everything is 1/2 rhythm, so I instantly thought that 00:21:024 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - was all 1/6 spacing here instead of a mix of 1/3 and 1/6 :roll:
  4. 01:40:115 (1,2) - would prefer slightly bigger spacing here
  5. nice
[San]
  1. 00:23:933 - maybe add a note here. There's a more distinct sound on the the beat than at other places denied, doesnt make sense to me as its a progressing sound sort of
  2. 00:53:479 (1) - 02:03:297 (1) - 02:20:751 (1) - etc... remove NC. The vocalist is literally saying 1-2-3 NC is for speed change
  3. 01:40:388 (6) - NC. It would be nice to keep combo number in single digits imo
  4. good
[Nii]
  1. 00:33:479 (3) - ctrl+g so spacing between 00:33:024 (2,3) - more clear I think this is fine but sure
  2. 00:38:388 (4,5) - reposition this a little so spacing between 00:38:478 (5,6) - is something like ~2.1x imo since slider leniency makes this distance feel smaller than it actually is
  3. 00:49:661 (5,1) - looks better if you auto-stack, like at 01:05:206 (8,1) - 01:07:115 (5,1) -
[Ichi]
  1. 00:18:249 - pulling out all the stops with that custom break time
  2. 1.3DS would avoid all those touchy overlaps and make spread a little more even but then you would need to remap kappa
  3. 01:19:661 (7,8) - 02:29:479 (7,8) - try changing both to 1/2 sliders to capture more sounds? song feels kinda intense here I try to keep it easy as it's the lowest diff, those sounds are very complex
  4. 01:45:842 (3,4) - i'm getting triggered. move this to [238,178] for perfect square redid this already
  5. 02:18:570 (1) - 02:31:661 (1) - remove NC
  6. 02:25:115 (1,2) - swap NC
  7. 02:37:115 (1,2,3,4) - use ctrl+> man
  8. 01:00:024 (2,3) - 01:05:479 (3,4) - 02:15:297 (3,4) - 02:43:661 (1,2) - blanket better if you care
  9. yeah your higher diffs I didn't really comment on NC patterns since I didn't understand it, but here, the inconsistencies in your NC patterns are pretty obvious if you compare similar parts of song such as the two kiai sections
Flow and rhythms are pretty nice and mapset looks fairly polished already. GL~
Thanks! changed everything I didnt reply to!

Naxess

Naxess wrote:

Greetings

Was going to see previous responses and stuff to get a feel for what you've got going but looks like most are missing, so you should respond to those. I'll just quickly look over the easier difficulties in the meantime.


  • [General]
  1. Where did you get your metadata from? I got it from his soundcloud, for some reason it's not there anymore... Anyway the vocals are from sampled from http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17410276 which is a cover of the "beatles - hey jude"

    [Ichi]
  2. 00:01:312 (1) - This and 00:00:572 (1) - are pretty similar sounds, and are also in the same measure musically, and as such it would make sense if they were grouped together in the same combo. I realize there's an uninherited section here, but it doesn't deviate that badly. Basically remove the NC on 00:01:312 (1) - . Goes for the other difficulties as well.

    yeah so as you said there's a new timing point there, which I'm indicating with the NC. I'm not sure if it's allowed not to nc them, I don't believe it is tbh
  3. 00:19:661 (1,1) - Why would the combo change between these but not 00:21:842 (3,4) - ? Would probably make more sense if the NC on 00:20:751 (1) - were to be moved to 00:21:842 (3) - instead. If not, 00:22:933 (4) - would have one, but that would look a bit odd in my opinion.
  4. 01:17:479 (2,3,4) - This is quite clearly different in the song to 01:18:570 (5,6,7) - , so for contrast, I'd suggest you change this first one into a circle and slider, in consistency with 01:13:115 (2,3) - . Also happens at 02:27:297 (2,3,4) - and 02:44:751 (2,3,4) - .
  5. 01:31:661 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - I feel like this 1/2 train might be a bit much. Generally new players will find a lot of trouble in consecutive sliders like this, so changing 01:33:297 (7) - to a circle could solve this, as well as emphasizing the vocals. Same goes for 01:37:661 - .
  6. 01:46:388 - Guessing there's a missed clap here. o yeah copied hitsounds and there's a spinner in the higher diffs, fixed on both ichi and nii
  7. Speaking of hitsounding, why are 01:34:388 - 01:47:479 - different, but 01:47:479 - 01:42:024 - the same? I mean using the same hitsounds for different sounds and different hitsounds for same sounds makes very little sense in regards to audible feedback. Either stick to using a pattern or stick to reflecting specific sounds with the hitsounds, right now it seems quite inconsistent. I'd think the more prominent sounds like claps would be consistent at the very least.

    Those are completely different sections, from 01:46:933 (1) - onwards it follows the hitsound patterns from the same parts earlier in the song here 00:37:116 (1) - onwards. That section in the middle is unique so I hitsounded it different. Every same sound doesn't need to have the same hitsound does it? Since it differs in context.
  8. 00:29:751 - I'd also think some whistles like 00:28:933 - would be used on the sliders ahead of it in a pattern as well, and not right after a downbeat the first time and right before the next 00:32:206 - . Well, there's some things to look into here I guess. Would really like for the hitsounds to be more consistent, within their relative sections, if possible. By consistent I mean in accordance with the song, so sounds should preferably be reflected equally throughout the same section, etc, you get the idea.
  9. 02:51:842 (7,1,2,3) - This part seems to stand out a bit much due to being different from the rest, while there's nothing in the music suggesting this. If you're trying to go for variation, implement this in some previous pattern as well so it doesn't come so suddenly. Otherwise change 02:51:297 - to a 1/1 slider, 02:52:115 - to a circle, 02:52:388 (1,2,3) - to a 1/1 slider and 02:53:479 (9) - to a circle and slider. Refer to 02:42:570 - .

    I see what you mean, I changed that part but the kiais are divided into different parts you see, the first half and second half, they are mapped different in every kiai, so I applied how I mapped on the second parts of the kiais here 01:22:933 (4) - and here 02:32:751 (4) - which makes better sense than what I had before, thanks!

    [Nii]
  10. 00:28:933 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Section could get quite confusing due to having multiple layers followed at the same time and switched between frequently. 00:28:661 - and 00:28:933 - are followed in the beginning, but get ignored at 00:30:024 - in exchange for the sound on 00:29:933 - , which was not followed at 00:28:842 - . Alright, so it switches. That's okay, but afterwards it switches again. Suddenly 00:31:024 - is ignored again and 00:31:115 - is prioritized. Then at 00:32:115 - , 00:32:206 - is skipped again. I sort of get what you're doing here, but in practice, especially for a Hard difficulty, it's going to be quite unexpected. I'd recommend you either only follow one layer, or only switch between measures. Look at what was done in the insane difficulty here, for instance. Much more predictable.

    I get what you mean, I added a note here 00:31:024 (2) - and 00:32:661 (8) - (+ whistle) to make it consistent, what do you think?
  11. 00:34:297 (6) - Looks a bit odd after 00:33:479 (3,4,5) - , since it still has that sound at 00:34:388 - . Don't really see the point in having things differ like that without any cues for it. fixed as above
  12. 00:38:751 - Skipping a sound this prominent is probably not a good idea. May be that players mistake it for being 00:38:933 - or similar, thus hurting the gameplay experience. Even just adding a circle here would make it much better in terms of rhythm. This applies to 00:43:115 - , 00:47:479 - , 00:51:842 - and so on as well, so make sure to check over this thoroughly.
  13. 00:46:388 (2,3) - Very slight overlap going on here.
  14. 01:11:479 (1) - This combo color has not appeared in Ichi, nor does it even have them. Ichi and San have the same color sets, but Hey Jude and Nii doesn't... hmmm. For the sake of consistency throughout the mapset you could try mashing them all together into one color set and then using the colorhaxing stuff for all difficulties.

    hmm perhaps I should just remove those alltogether and only have the colors on heiju do?

    [San]
  15. 00:28:388 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Not quite sure what you're going for with these combos, but I'd think having this whole back and forth section the same combo would make more sense, right?
  16. Also speaking of that section, I still have no clue what you're doing with your hitsounds lol. Finishes look really randomly placed, may catch people off-guard and make it seem like they missed some note or clicked too early or something. Not really preferable. heh right, fixed that stuff up a bit, lmk what you think!

  17. Going to wait until I can see the responses to mods before modding further.
Might want to recheck your hitsounding to make sure it's all consistent and makes sense with the song. From what I can see, it looks quite inconsistent as it is, and loses a lot of relevance to the song like this. Would like to hear what the idea behind it is as well, so I can cater my suggestions towards improving that concept. I'm guessing kiai and non-kiai is how the hitsound collab was arranged? yeah exactly

I'll return to see how things have been going and potentially help out with hitsounding and stuff later, after mods have gotten their replies.

@Kencho let's wait with rebubbling this until then
Huge thanks for the mod, awaiting a response eagerly!
Naxess
Hmm, isn't it "Ni"? Maybe I'm missing some reference or something...


  • [Nii]
  1. yeah so as you said there's a new timing point there, which I'm indicating with the NC. I'm not sure if it's allowed not to nc them, I don't believe it is tbh
    Actually, there's nothing that says it isn't allowed, so you can do whatever you want with it. If you want to keep the NC, I'd be fine with that as well, just think it's a bit odd, due to it being in the same musical group in the song.
  2. I get what you mean, I added a note here 00:31:024 (2) - and 00:32:661 (8) - (+ whistle) to make it consistent, what do you think?
    It is more consistent like this, but... it doesn't really change that it's harder to read than the same section in the next difficulty. Prioritizing the sounds on the beats themselves up until 00:32:751 - would make the rhythm much more recognizable for a Hard.
  3. 00:34:297 (6,7) - This is also better, but having a longer slider here and at 00:33:024 (2) - looks a bit questionable is what I was trying to say. There's no direct cues or anything in the song suggesting them, and it seems to lack any specific patterning in the rhythm between the two. Having them unpredictable seems really unnecessary. The next difficulty's pattern is much easier to read in comparison, so perhaps doing something similar here, but with lower spacing and shorter sliders, would be better for the difficulty spread. What do you think?
  4. Naxess wrote:

    00:38:751 - Skipping a sound this prominent is probably not a good idea. May be that players mistake it for being 00:38:933 - or similar, thus hurting the gameplay experience. Even just adding a circle here would make it much better in terms of rhythm. This applies to 00:43:115 - , 00:47:479 - , 00:51:842 - and so on as well, so make sure to check over this thoroughly.
    I see you did something for these, but generally you'd want to refrain from placing circles under slider ends like at 00:38:751 (6) - . Could always make it work as a transition into the next one instead. We are dealing with a Hard, after all. Having things readable is vital for the gameplay experience in easier difficulties like this.
  5. hmm perhaps I should just remove those alltogether and only have the colors on heiju do?
    Would make more sense like that at least. Might be able to implement the colorhaxing for San instead, since it includes some of the elements reflected by the colors, for example the slower sliders, but up to you.

    [San]
  6. 00:38:479 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing looks slightly unbalanced, would look neater if the circle was in the middle of these.
  7. 00:42:843 (2,3,4) - tbh you could probably space these a bit more or lower the spacing of 00:38:479 (1,2,3) - in consistency with each other. Doesn't have to be exactly the same, but at least keep the principle the same. I mean compare the spacing to something like 00:55:934 (2,3,4) - , which is the same section, for example lol
  8. 00:56:479 (4,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - That's a lot of sliders going to the left. It is possible to Ctrl+G 00:57:297 (1,2) - otherwise.
  9. 02:09:297 (1,1,1) - No reason to NC all of them, just remove NC from 02:09:570 - and 02:09:842 - in consistency with 02:00:570 (1,2,3) - 01:56:206 (1,2,3) - etc. Same also goes for why 02:04:933 (1,1) - would be different.
  10. Also shouldn't 01:57:024 (4) - be NCed instead of 01:57:297 (1) - ? Look at 02:01:388 (1) - 02:05:751 (1) - , etc. Same goes for 02:10:115 (2) - .
  11. 00:53:479 (1) - 02:03:297 (1) - 02:20:751 (1) - Speaking of NCs, I would agree with MokouSmoke regarding the ichi nii san parts. Generally people NC SV changes because they're unexpected, but these ones are perfectly predictable and do not differ much either way. This might be something to consider when looking through the rest of the NCs. Of course, would apply to the other difficulties, should they be done in the same way.
  12. 02:15:297 (6) - This seems to be contradicting what you said about NCing SV changes, and in this case it's not as predictable, and it's also a new measure, so NCing it would make sense. Overall NCing seems to be all over the place around here, may want to reconsider it's usage to be more consistent.
  13. Continues at 02:18:842 (4) - as well, and it goes on in kiai as well, compare 02:23:115 (4) - with 01:13:297 (1) - and so on and so forth. Not going to mention this anymore, be sure to thoroughly check through the difficulties for things like this. Having combos be seemingly randomly placed would hurt more than just the visual relevance to the song. You may argue you use it for specific patterning, but if the patterns are so different that NCing them in accordance to the song would break them, then perhaps said patterns are not reflecting the song properly. Same idea goes for SV changes and all other gameplay elements, should it come down to that.
  14. 00:45:297 (6,7,8,9,1) - 01:02:752 (4,5,6,1) - 01:03:843 (1,2,3,4,1) - Seems like this diamond pattern is a bit misplaced in regards to how the song sounds. It works, and it plays well too, but it's not really the best for structure and consistency. In the later section they're also streams into repeats, 01:54:842 (2,3,4,5) - 02:12:297 (2,3,4,5) - , and the other diamond pattern is now a linear stream instead 02:13:661 (2,3,4,5) - . The more you use something in conjunction with specific sounds, the less random it seems and the more recognizable it becomes, so I'd suggest you try getting the first diamond to happen at the same time as the other one would in their relative places, and then doing the same thing for the latter section. (or, you know, you could just have all of them be small streams into repeats... the diamond concept would be more interesting, though)

    [Hey Jude]
  15. 01:42:024 (3,5) - Overlapping here is pretty horrible. Try moving and rotating 01:42:570 (4,5,6) - like this, to where it's stacked under the tail of 01:42:024 (3) - .
  16. 02:56:933 (1) - Would be nice if you could start these spinners consistently throughout the mapset, and not after 1/6, 1/3, 1/2 all at the same time. 1/4 would make most sense since everything else there is 1/4 snapped, but could otherwise do 1/6 for the sake of resonance. At least pick one and stick to it for all difficulties.

    Hitsounds
  17. 00:29:388 (3,4,5,6) - According to what's going on here, you'd expect 00:31:024 (3,4,5,6) - to be similar, right? Could otherwise just make all of them finishes like the rest of them are. I sort of get what you're doing, but problem with varying much like this is that stuff will sound random, which isn't good for feedback.
  18. 00:37:661 - In my opinion these would sound way better with drum samplesets or additions. A faint whistle on a prominent snare seems a bit unfitting. Also kind of applies to 00:38:751 - as well. Try turning both of these into drum-whistles to get that extra snare feel to them. Applies to the rest of these as well, ofc. Refer to what was done in kiai, for example. (also currently some are claps 00:47:479 - and some are drum-whistles 01:04:933 - , which looks a bit inconsistent)
  19. 00:46:933 - Keep in mind that if you're going to be using drum-whistles for snares, then it would be preferable if no other sounds were reflected in this way as well, for the sake of making the snares stand out properly. So in turn, things like this could be changed to drum-finishes instead or similar.
  20. 00:49:570 - May want to remove this whistle, in consistency with 00:58:024 - 01:07:024 - 01:50:661 - 01:59:388 - 02:08:115 - . Same goes for 00:49:661 - 00:58:115 - 01:07:115 - 01:50:751 - 01:59:206 - 02:08:206 - 02:16:933 - , of which some are whistles, some are normal-finishes and some are drum-whistles... Would still recommend you make them all drum-whistles to reflect the snares.
  21. 01:12:024 - Was this meant to be a soft-finish like 01:16:388 - and 01:20:751 - ?
  22. 01:27:842 - Considering that 01:27:297 - has a finish, I'd kind of expect one to be here as well. I mean 01:27:842 - and 01:28:115 - are very different in the song, but have the same hitsounds in the map.
  23. 01:30:024 - 01:31:115 - Same concept with the claps and drum-whistles apply here and onwards. The fact that regular claps are used for non-snare sounds kind of kills it's emphasis when it's used for snares as well. Contrast is how things are emphasized, after all lol. Either way, 01:30:024 - is currently inconsistent with 01:34:388 - .
  24. 01:42:842 - 01:43:388 - Listening to this sound, wouldn't 01:44:479 - also be a drum-whistle?
  25. 01:44:751 - tbh this would sound better as a soft-finish, without the normal addition, kind of like 01:31:661 - were all normal-finishes and all the actual cymbals were soft-finishes, 01:29:479 - 01:33:842 - .
  26. 01:44:842 (1) - Could potentially add the same snare thing on this spinner, since the hitsound would play where it ends, 01:46:388 - .
  27. 02:36:024 - 02:53:479 - Would add some finishes on these in consistency with the sounds on 02:36:297 - 02:53:751 - and to differentiate them from the sounds reflected solely by drum samplesets.

  28. Might want to consider about doing special cases for lower difficulties if they skip over key parts of hitsounding patterns and stuff. Completely up to you though, but either way, I'd recommend looking through them to make sure nothing was missed after doing any copying.
Regarding your green lines...
Ichi
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Nii
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San
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Hey Jude
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These are useless and can be removed (unless my program messed up). Not necessary to get rid of them, but I'd still recommend you consider about cleaning them up lol. If they were meant to have a function, then you can always fix that. Seeing a lot of points near the end of San which aren't silencing the sliders, for example.
Topic Starter
Liiraye
Thanks again for the thorough mods, I'm still out of town until ~next thursday, I'll get back to it then :)
Topic Starter
Liiraye
'next thursday' Keepo

Sorry about the wait, rl has been pretty busy. I'm back home in September, I actually replied and fixed most if your mod long ago lol.
Topic Starter
Liiraye
naxmod 2.0

Naxess wrote:

Hmm, isn't it "Ni"? Maybe I'm missing some reference or something...

[list]
[Nii]
[*]
yeah so as you said there's a new timing point there, which I'm indicating with the NC. I'm not sure if it's allowed not to nc them, I don't believe it is tbh
Actually, there's nothing that says it isn't allowed, so you can do whatever you want with it. If you want to keep the NC, I'd be fine with that as well, just think it's a bit odd, due to it being in the same musical group in the song.

I hear ya, but still considering it's around a 10 ms difference, I think some indication of change is warranted

[*]
I get what you mean, I added a note here 00:31:024 (2) - and 00:32:661 (8) - (+ whistle) to make it consistent, what do you think?
It is more consistent like this, but... it doesn't really change that it's harder to read than the same section in the next difficulty. Prioritizing the sounds on the beats themselves up until 00:32:751 - would make the rhythm much more recognizable for a Hard.
[*]00:34:297 (6,7) - This is also better, but having a longer slider here and at 00:33:024 (2) - looks a bit questionable is what I was trying to say. There's no direct cues or anything in the song suggesting them, and it seems to lack any specific patterning in the rhythm between the two. Having them unpredictable seems really unnecessary. The next difficulty's pattern is much easier to read in comparison, so perhaps doing something similar here, but with lower spacing and shorter sliders, would be better for the difficulty spread. What do you think?

I redid this section, making it more simple and easy to play

[*]

Naxess wrote:

00:38:751 - Skipping a sound this prominent is probably not a good idea. May be that players mistake it for being 00:38:933 - or similar, thus hurting the gameplay experience. Even just adding a circle here would make it much better in terms of rhythm. This applies to 00:43:115 - , 00:47:479 - , 00:51:842 - and so on as well, so make sure to check over this thoroughly.
I see you did something for these, but generally you'd want to refrain from placing circles under slider ends like at 00:38:751 (6) - . Could always make it work as a transition into the next one instead. We are dealing with a Hard, after all. Having things readable is vital for the gameplay experience in easier difficulties like this.

after looking more into it, I think it would be the best to make the first slider in these patterns end on the white tick you refer to. It is indeed more prominent than the one it currently lands on, and I'd like to put proper emphasis on it. Making a circle would make the pattern very messy and hard to play... I think this is the best solution to the problem.

[*]
hmm perhaps I should just remove those alltogether and only have the colors on heiju do?
Would make more sense like that at least. Might be able to implement the colorhaxing for San instead, since it includes some of the elements reflected by the colors, for example the slower sliders, but up to you.



[San]
[*]00:38:479 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing looks slightly unbalanced, would look neater if the circle was in the middle of these.
[*]00:42:843 (2,3,4) - tbh you could probably space these a bit more or lower the spacing of 00:38:479 (1,2,3) - in consistency with each other. Doesn't have to be exactly the same, but at least keep the principle the same. I mean compare the spacing to something like 00:55:934 (2,3,4) - , which is the same section, for example lol

while I don't agree with the principle being relevant here, it's an insane after all, patterns dont need to have consistent spacing throughout x) however I did increase the spacing a bit.

[*]00:56:479 (4,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - That's a lot of sliders going to the left. It is possible to Ctrl+G 00:57:297 (1,2) - otherwise.
[*]02:09:297 (1,1,1) - No reason to NC all of them, just remove NC from 02:09:570 - and 02:09:842 - in consistency with 02:00:570 (1,2,3) - 01:56:206 (1,2,3) - etc. Same also goes for why 02:04:933 (1,1) - would be different.
[*]Also shouldn't 01:57:024 (4) - be NCed instead of 01:57:297 (1) - ? Look at 02:01:388 (1) - 02:05:751 (1) - , etc. Same goes for 02:10:115 (2) - .
[*]00:53:479 (1) - 02:03:297 (1) - 02:20:751 (1) - Speaking of NCs, I would agree with MokouSmoke regarding the ichi nii san parts. Generally people NC SV changes because they're unexpected, but these ones are perfectly predictable and do not differ much either way. This might be something to consider when looking through the rest of the NCs. Of course, would apply to the other difficulties, should they be done in the same way.

hmm I don't agree fully here, NC is primarily to indicate a change, not only to show something unexpected, you make a SV change for a reason, and thus it should be shown so that in this case the player doesn't think it's the exact same lenght as the previous. I'd rather have it presented than not, same goes for the initial response to the timing point NC 00:01:312 (1) -

[*]02:15:297 (6) - This seems to be contradicting what you said about NCing SV changes, and in this case it's not as predictable, and it's also a new measure, so NCing it would make sense. Overall NCing seems to be all over the place around here, may want to reconsider it's usage to be more consistent.

yeah thats a miss by me

[*]Continues at 02:18:842 (4) - as well, and it goes on in kiai as well, compare 02:23:115 (4) - with 01:13:297 (1) - and so on and so forth. Not going to mention this anymore, be sure to thoroughly check through the difficulties for things like this. Having combos be seemingly randomly placed would hurt more than just the visual relevance to the song. You may argue you use it for specific patterning, but if the patterns are so different that NCing them in accordance to the song would break them, then perhaps said patterns are not reflecting the song properly. Same idea goes for SV changes and all other gameplay elements, should it come down to that.
[*]00:45:297 (6,7,8,9,1) - 01:02:752 (4,5,6,1) - 01:03:843 (1,2,3,4,1) - Seems like this diamond pattern is a bit misplaced in regards to how the song sounds. It works, and it plays well too, but it's not really the best for structure and consistency. In the later section they're also streams into repeats, 01:54:842 (2,3,4,5) - 02:12:297 (2,3,4,5) - , and the other diamond pattern is now a linear stream instead 02:13:661 (2,3,4,5) - . The more you use something in conjunction with specific sounds, the less random it seems and the more recognizable it becomes, so I'd suggest you try getting the first diamond to happen at the same time as the other one would in their relative places, and then doing the same thing for the latter section. (or, you know, you could just have all of them be small streams into repeats... the diamond concept would be more interesting, though)

first paragraph fixerino
[Hey Jude]
[*]01:42:024 (3,5) - Overlapping here is pretty horrible. Try moving and rotating 01:42:570 (4,5,6) - like this, to where it's stacked under the tail of 01:42:024 (3) - .
[*]02:56:933 (1) - Would be nice if you could start these spinners consistently throughout the mapset, and not after 1/6, 1/3, 1/2 all at the same time. 1/4 would make most sense since everything else there is 1/4 snapped, but could otherwise do 1/6 for the sake of resonance. At least pick one and stick to it for all difficulties.

all fixed! thenkz
Topic Starter
Liiraye
Hitsounds
Hitsounds
[*]00:29:388 (3,4,5,6) - According to what's going on here, you'd expect 00:31:024 (3,4,5,6) - to be similar, right? Could otherwise just make all of them finishes like the rest of them are. I sort of get what you're doing, but problem with varying much like this is that stuff will sound random, which isn't good for feedback. I'm going for a specific thing here, it's meant to be different

[*]00:37:661 - In my opinion these would sound way better with drum samplesets or additions. A faint whistle on a prominent snare seems a bit unfitting. Also kind of applies to 00:38:751 - as well. Try turning both of these into drum-whistles to get that extra snare feel to them. Applies to the rest of these as well, ofc. Refer to what was done in kiai, for example. also follows a consistent theme throughout the map
(also currently some are claps 00:47:479 - and some are drum-whistles
01:04:933 - , which looks a bit inconsistent) gotcha

[*]00:46:933 - Keep in mind that if you're going to be using drum-whistles for snares, then it would be preferable if no other sounds were reflected in this way as well, for the sake of making the snares stand out properly. So in turn, things like this could be changed to drum-finishes instead or similar.
[*]00:49:570 - May want to remove this whistle, in consistency with 00:58:024 - 01:07:024 - 01:50:661 - 01:59:388 - 02:08:115 - . Same goes for 00:49:661 - 00:58:115 - 01:07:115 - 01:50:751 - 01:59:206 - 02:08:206 - 02:16:933 - , of which some are whistles, some are normal-finishes and some are drum-whistles... Would still recommend you make them all drum-whistles to reflect the snares.
thanks

[*]01:12:024 - Was this meant to be a soft-finish like 01:16:388 - and 01:20:751 - ? First kiai finish is drum, rest are soft finish, except in last kiai where it repeats, so there's another drum finish there

[*]01:27:842 - Considering that 01:27:297 - has a finish, I'd kind of expect one to be here as well. I mean 01:27:842 - and 01:28:115 - are very different in the song, but have the same hitsounds in the map. thanks

[*]01:30:024 - 01:31:115 - Same concept with the claps and drum-whistles apply here and onwards. The fact that regular claps are used for non-snare sounds kind of kills it's emphasis when it's used for snares as well. Contrast is how things are emphasized, after all lol. Either way, 01:30:024 - is currently inconsistent with 01:34:388 - . fixed the last note, but overall this section has it's own theme, the claps come out better than the drums I think

[*]01:42:842 - 01:43:388 - Listening to this sound, wouldn't 01:44:479 - also be a drum-whistle? following the synth here, it's consistent to the same synth sounds which are much more prominent

[*]01:44:751 - tbh this would sound better as a soft-finish, without the normal addition, kind of like 01:31:661 - were all normal-finishes and all the actual cymbals were soft-finishes, 01:29:479 - 01:33:842 - . nice catch

[*]01:44:842 (1) - Could potentially add the same snare thing on this spinner, since the hitsound would play where it ends, 01:46:388 - . yee thanks

[*]02:36:024 - 02:53:479 - Would add some finishes on these in consistency with the sounds on 02:36:297 - 02:53:751 - and to differentiate them from the sounds reflected solely by drum samplesets. done thanks a lot!
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