osu! World Cup 2013 - Discussion Thread

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Loctav
tl;dr: opinions.

Everyone has a different idea of what should or could be tested. Luckily we don't rely solely on accuracy wars.
Whatsoever I will try to stress mod picks more in future, and especially FreeMod. We'll see.
I am still unhappy about the way we added FreeMod.
But for now, I need reliable map selectors first (yes, feel bad Wishy! And Darksonic! :( )
buny
how about more map selectors?

What could possibly go wrong?
Frostmourne

buny wrote:

how about more map selectors?

What could possibly go wrong?
more selectors, more leaks?

but I support for more map selectors for the next owc year.
silmarilen
there will ALWAYS be complaints about the mappool, no exceptions. i think the map selectors did a fine job this year.
Topic Starter
Loctav
There are not many capable persons to be map selectors, especially if maby potential candidates want to participate on the owc as a player.
Ciunek
I don't think potential leaks would change much. If you can't learn few maps during a period of one week then either 1) you're having a life and not having a time for clicking circles 2) you're doing something wrong 3) map is so damn hard that only top of world's elite can try FCing it.
AmaiHachimitsu
If the maps' difficulty is in our range of abilities, we don't need to practice as much.


As for selectors, I think the time spent is the most important factor. There is a shitload of maps and selectors often had to hurry with the mappool. This is not the way to go.

I'd recommend picking maps for ALL POOLS as early as month before OWC. Leaks shouldn't be a problem.
Topic Starter
Loctav
That was planned to happen. Since the very beginning.
But our beloved map selectors simply didn't do it. Lol
Not intended to offend anyone, but you guys can't imagine how often I heard the sentence "I will prepare it weeks in advance" or "I'll work on it during the entire week", but when I took a look on Saturday or Sunday, the pool was still unfinished.
I appreciate your suggestions that include the obvious. But I can not send letter bombs to everyone. Some people are simply lazy and kinda doing empty promises. Considering that I already stepped aside from being naive and relying on bare words, it is still very difficult to find the right people for it. At the end of the day I end up trusting people anyways. And somehow just a very few were capable to proof that my trust was worth it. (See JappyBabes or p3n or Marcin or Mr Color)

Also "leaks are no issue" made me lol. Because you have no idea xD
AmaiHachimitsu
I knew that Mephisto is gonna be in final pool long ago. Nothing has changed lol. Never played it before the mappool was released. Even if I did, it won't make a difference on how I perform this weekend D:
Topic Starter
Loctav
How is that related to my statement?
Salvage
Maps had a few questionable things past rounds but they weren't as bad, maybe booring for the first phase and too jump based on the other ones, but still not bad, i do think screwing up on finals is a big deal and i think the maps are way easier than they should, you simply CAN'T put easier maps than you had in groups for finals just cause you want accuracy to matter, it has already be done and you as a map selector should stick to it. Plus having maps like that (that should be easy 100% fc for the two teams involved, just ends up in a luck game, where whoever random misses loses, and it's just disgusting to see, it also happens in hard maps but you have more chances on it affecting the 8 players involved, accuracy rarely ends up applying anyways).


It isn't like the entire mappool is bad tho i guess it's just fine, and yeah i understand the problems that happened with selectors being afk for the past pools and what it caused, but well, good luck to taiwan and korea.
AmaiHachimitsu

Loctav wrote:

How is that related to my statement?
Also "leaks are no issue" made me lol. Because you have no idea xD
Blame my english comprehension if I didn't get the meaning well.






btw. Putting easier maps aside, in every DT pick Jappy has DT FC, even on those which have like 5 FCs in overall #conspiracy
Marcin
Kinda late but... added map pack of finals ;~; http://www.mediafire.com/download/igx08 ... 20Pool.rar
J V
thx Marcin :)
Marcin
In wiki I have put right one, just copy and paste went wrong hrrhrhrhr fixed.
JappyBabes

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

btw. Putting easier maps aside, in every DT pick Jappy has DT FC, even on those which have like 5 FCs in overall #conspiracy
well that's kind of how it works, you pick maps that you know, not random maps in hopes that they're fine. and colors took me a year .-.
Scorpiour

Frostmourne wrote:

buny wrote:

how about more map selectors?

What could possibly go wrong?
more selectors, more leaks?

but I support for more map selectors for the next owc year.
i would like to be but refused o_o
zozozofun
I could be a map selector if the position is open for next year.
jesse1412
Damn these picks are so fucking annoying/boring/dumb.


Nomod:

Nuclear fusion - Not a bad pick. HARD TO READ (more like dumb as fuck to read).
Ningen - Not a bad pick. HARD TO READ.
Couple dance - Terribly easy to fail on the ending due to 1 fuck up and hard to recover. Only the ending really should matter here and it's pretty boring to watch until the second half but I personally like it.
Shuffle heaven - Another chancy map but overall consistently easy to fail so not that bad. HARD TO READ.
Force of wind - Not a bad pick. HARD TO READ.
Kamui - Good pick I guess but it annoys me for some reason.

(Too much reading dependence?)

Nomod #2 (Gimmicky/joke play/showoff central):

Scream as hard as you can - Pretty generic 2013 patterns, long and gets boring fast.
Serment - Good pick but the opposite of the above map, kinda short.
Caramel - Long and boring.
Mephisto - Great nomod pick!

HD:

They're all HD mod so that sucks. They're all long as fuck apart from meme. Meme is the only one which seems interesting even slightly, the rest are dumb.

HR:

Lapfoxed - Boring as fuck relative to the intensity of other mod brackets.
Real World - Seems okay, I just dislike the mod but it's a good representation of high level hr (very generic high level hr at least).
Anisakis - INSANELY hard compared to a lot of other picks imo but a good non-generic hr map. My only issue is it requires a bit of memorizing but eh.
Reunion - What the fuck is this doing here, move it to the DT bracket or something.

DT:

Colors - Good pick.
Fermion - Total memorization double time map, no one will read this without a few plays.
Splendid encounter - Really nice AR10.3 map, not too hard that no one has a chance at comboing. Nice pick.
Parousia - Boring streamy mash map.



General:

All the mod brackets are too imbalanced or not actually mod brackets. Every bracket has it's shit picks but the nomod and nomod #2 brackets seem rather well done in general. I would be surprised to see a hd pick for obvious reasons, same with a freemod pick where someone uses a mod. A lot of maps I've listed as "good picks" aren't fun to practice or just a chore to learn, fun to watch but horrible to have to actually play.
fartownik
Damn right. First time I have to force myself to train those maps, they're quite unfun to practice.
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