Ever heard of "an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure" or "better safe than sorry"? That's the point we're trying to make here. And we all agree on removing FL.
Let's give it a chance, is not like the world will end, there should be some maps that could fit perfectly for fl.Metro wrote:
Mod brackets are very different to flashlight usage lol but it's impossible to reason anything with you.
We all know how good you guys are at this.Loctav wrote:
We can deal with the dramas in case they arise. No need to be afraid of the monster under the bed.
Pretty sure we had a poll on some of the things people disagreed on last year, do it again and I'm 99% sure it'll be a landslide against FL.Loctav wrote:
Just because you consider FL as "not worth for tournaments" and a hand-full people agree with you, it's not valid.
Let's more say it like this: I remember tons of people being heavily against mod brackets. Now they are established. Give it a chance. If it sucks, we can remove it later.
That is just ignorant. He still brings up some good points.Loctav wrote:
Based on the first lines of your post, you didn't understand how freemod works. I stopped reading then since your whole post was based on a false fundament
Thatgooey wrote:
This is the one big osu! community tournament for the year that everyone looks forward to, so I think the community should be able to decide if FL should be allowed. It is always a controversial mod here on the forums, whether any of the claims are true or not. This is supposed to be a fun tournament to bring the world together to play some osu
I think Thatgooey meant to say that he wanted a no-flashlight-rule associated with freemod. As in, players can pick any mod except FL. Which I agree with for the same reasons stated by him.Loctav wrote:
Based on the first lines of your post, you didn't understand how freemod works. I stopped reading then since your whole post was based on a false fundament
same.Azer wrote:
Sooo. I'm still waiting on a reply to my PM, Loctav. It's been almost two days now.
well, the organizers insist on making the FL thingy happen. players don't want it. I don't like FL too.fartownik wrote:
Plenty of highly experienced players propose the FL to be removed. Other highly experienced players agree. I wonder what's the point you're trying to make by keeping it there for no matter what. Listen to players for once, they're the base of this game and this tournament is for them, and them only.
You're misunderstanding the FreeMod bracket. One team can't choose the Freemod Bracket and say everyone picks flashlight.Thatgooey wrote:
Even if it is allowed during the tournament, we can still all have an agreement amongst us players not to select the mod. Just because as of right now it is allowed, doesn't mean we have to play it. I know that nobody from our team will select it, even if you could have one person prepare a short map to snipe a free win. I don't think it is fair to the viewers or players to have this mod. It's just not very fun for a tournament setting. Regardless of my or anyone else's opinion on the mod itself, I just don't like it being a one time play in a yearly tournament. It's not fair to the players and fans if a team who is clearly outmatched trolls and picks flashlight free mod on a hard map just for the hell of it. I know a great deal of us wouldn't do this, but sometimes people don't act the same on a stage in the spotlight if they aren't used to it. It just creates opportunity to take away legitimacy and fun from the tournament, that's all I'm saying. Again, this is supposed to be a fun international event for the community to come together and enjoy some friendly competition. I think this is a great thing for osu, and only want to see it succeed and have people talk about it until next year as a positive experience. FL mod being played in this tournament would just add fuel to fires that have been burning for a long time now. I don't want to see that. Again, I have nothing against the mod itself.
No.pielak213 wrote:
^ I'd just like to add that if the map is easy enough to fc with fl, then it would also be easier to fc with hrhd which gives the same point total.
pielak213 wrote:
^i highly doubt there will be maps with a length of less than 1 minute in freemod
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't choose a map just to prove me wrongWishy wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/15942
The FreeMod bracket will have FreeMod activated. Every individual player can pick Hidden, HardRock, Flashlight or no mod at all. Players may select more than one mod.
it hasn't been updated yetpielak213 wrote:
why isnt team usa appearing in wiki :@
Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fcIf you read few pages back you will see that this year maps are gonna be harder than last year. So I expect no map to be an "easy FC" hence this whole discussion is out of place.
So it's a "let's not be serious" mod. I'm okay with this but management gets angry when people don't take it seriously, they did last year at least. Fun times.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Personally, I really like the implementation of FL since there can actually be a little strategy with swapping players *hint hint* and it being very possible to fcIf you read few pages back you will see that this year maps are gonna be harder than last year. So I expect no map to be an "easy FC" hence this whole discussion is out of place.
If any of the players choose FL it will be for lulz I guess.