osu! World Cup 2013 - Discussion Thread

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tiper
Now russian wiki has an article about OWC 2013. Gonna follow the main article in order to update the russian one.
rakuskoin
when the registration is over?
Wishy
Registration Phase: 15-28 Oct 2013
AmaiHachimitsu
If less than 4 players attend, the maximum time the match will be postponed is 20 minutes.
Why can't a team play with 3 players? Is it so devastating to the "show"? Various reasons may stop players from showing up and losing a match without a fight would be lame (especially when the rest of the team wanted to play anyway)
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Loctav
If you have no time to participate, don't sign up in the first place.
Your team size is 8 to compensate these cases and to ensure that you can find 4 to participate on every match. Not for tactical purposes in the first place.
-GN

Loctav wrote:

Wouldn't it be quite obvious? :P
I can only see this being the potential foundation for some hefty drama when some team insists "no, it's legit this guy practiced for like a year". This type of memorization mod has no place in a skill tournament anyway, unless you're putting low-tier Hard diffs into the freemod bracket.
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Loctav
Put your bias aside. It start's getting boring. I am not interested in your drama.
Memorization is a skill, not a skill you like, but yet a skill. Also this is no "FL SUCKS" thread, so step aside. (Most people won't pick FL anyways, it's not like random people participate here, 95% of the registered people are well-known)
Adamqs_DELETED
just wondering who will use fl
Hernan
Just wondering when Loctav is gonna learn some manners
-GN

Loctav wrote:

Put your bias aside. It start's getting boring. I am not interested in your drama.
Memorization is a skill, not a skill you like, but yet a skill. Also this is no "FL SUCKS" thread, so step aside. (Most people won't pick FL anyways, it's not like random people participate here, 95% of the registered people are well-known)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/125660?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/134948?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/76775?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/17251?m=0 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48450?m=0

I know pretty well what FL is and not is - don't assume I don't. I am not bashing FL, I'm not saying it sucks, but I'm saying it's the kind of memorization skill you'd require damn near inhuman reflexes and consistency to pull off FCs with in a tournament. I'm proposing we drop FL as a mod in the freemod, as it'd just bring drama and cheating accusations(at the very least) if someone decided they'd use it. Why not spare yourself the potential trouble?
Salvage
I have to agree with GN here since FL would only bring trouble to the tournament, also i don't really think it's that fun to watch since i rather watch a tournament in similar conditions, i have to agree as well that stubbornness and stubbornness only will make it stay as it is.
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Loctav

Hernan wrote:

Just wondering when Loctav is gonna learn some manners
Probably never :C

@-GN We can deal with the dramas in case they arise. No need to be afraid of the monster under the bed.
Metro
Ever heard of "an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure" or "better safe than sorry"? That's the point we're trying to make here. And we all agree on removing FL.
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Loctav
Just because you consider FL as "not worth for tournaments" and a hand-full people agree with you, it's not valid.
Let's more say it like this: I remember tons of people being heavily against mod brackets. Now they are established. Give it a chance. If it sucks, we can remove it later.
Metro
Mod brackets are very different to flashlight usage lol but it's impossible to reason anything with you.
eldnl

Metro wrote:

Mod brackets are very different to flashlight usage lol but it's impossible to reason anything with you.
Let's give it a chance, is not like the world will end, there should be some maps that could fit perfectly for fl.
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Loctav
I do see your point why you consider it as "not worth it" or why you are afraid of cheaters using it. It's not like I do not understand your concerns. But the reasons are still based on assumptions and fears, opinions and tastes - which differ widely. I see no harm in allowing FL in FreeMod, especially because it's in FreeMod. Think about the chances of it's usage and think about, if it's even worth making noise about an option that probably no one is going to use. I remember a lot of cases where people were heavily against certain changes in the world cups, starting with mapselection at all, ending with mod brackets and commentators. Out of my experience, I tend to give things a chance. And iirc, the map selectors agreed with me on that.
Moonpower

Loctav wrote:

We can deal with the dramas in case they arise. No need to be afraid of the monster under the bed.
We all know how good you guys are at this. :roll:

pls someone practice FL, I demand some drama
jesse1412

Loctav wrote:

Just because you consider FL as "not worth for tournaments" and a hand-full people agree with you, it's not valid.
Let's more say it like this: I remember tons of people being heavily against mod brackets. Now they are established. Give it a chance. If it sucks, we can remove it later.
Pretty sure we had a poll on some of the things people disagreed on last year, do it again and I'm 99% sure it'll be a landslide against FL.
Mismagius
So you can just get an easy 1-0 if you tell everyone from your team to FL practice the lowest-combo map on the free-mod bracket?
Seems very unlikely because of the pressure situation and that stuff, but still may happen. Whatever, though :P
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