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Thanks!Raose wrote:
[Normal]
00:37:488 (1,2) - can improve blankets here just a bit =w= Sure
01:16:891 (1,2) - players might not be able to figure out the rhythm right away, how about making this a repeat slider first so players can get used to it? o3o With the increased spacing and general velocity for the chorus, I think it works okay enough. Having a repeat slider will break the momentum for the speed increase.
01:55:847 - consider adding a note here, or making a 1/2 slider to fit the vocals? seems a bit empty atm I don't want to be following every single beat. Even though it's a fairly tough Normal to fit between the Easy and Hard, I still don't want to overdo it rhythmically.
01:57:414 - maybe another circle here? Added one at 01:58:161 - so that the distance snap isn't as broken.
01:59:876 (1) - i think blanket can be improved here Wasn't really going for a blanket at that point.
01:42:190 (1) - it's kinda dumb but spinners need a new combo No they don't. This spinner fits within the combo so a new combo shouldnt' be applied.
03:57:266 (3) - might be better to just use a 1/2 slider here, a 1/4 repeat slider may be too hard idk We'll see what others say. I was a bit iffy in using them initially, but I've warmed up to them after several test plays.
04:11:818 (2) - ^ I think this one will be fine regardless since there aren't any objects immediately after it.
04:21:669 (1) - hmm i think the spinner would fit better if it started at 04:23:236 since there's sort of a wind-up sound in the bg, also NC the spinner ;w; The spinner actually starts with that wind-up sound you described pretty much where I started it. Removed new combo on 04:21:445 (4) -
this is a pretty hard normal LOL
Yeah, the Easy and Hard were already made when I was asked to make this, so I did my best to keep it between the two. It's pretty hard, but I think it's still fair as far as Normals are concerned.
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Raose wrote:
[Easy]
01:54:355 (4) - a bit far from 3 ;w; changed the angle a bit to make it 0.9x - those sliders are never really played to their exact ending points and it should "feel" like less distance.
03:34:654 (1) - add finish on head? that wouldl break the pattern, sorry
nice diff thanks :3
TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:
Mod:General -
* Remove countdown even if it isn't active hue I'll let Kite take care of this
Garven's Normal
Can you stay consistent with the other difficulties hitsounds.
The ones used in this difficulty are very jarring and normal-hitclap4 is annoying.
I preferred it over the clap sound in the other soundset. Any points where it's particularly jarring? I can edit those points down, but I found it to be good to my ears.
1. 00:08:908 (1) - While pretty your skipping a nice beat that is even mapped in the Easy. Considering you have three different mappers here, there's going to be a wide variance on interpretation. I probably wouldn't have mapped it in Easy had I done that level of difficulty since I favor longer sliders.
2. 04:08:908 (1) - Now it's time to make something pretty. Feel free to provide an example. I really wanted the curl motion here for the flow, but if you have a suggestion to maximize prettiness, I'm all ears. So to speak.
2. 04:10:251 - I think you should end it here and add a circle on the next 1/2. I wanted a heavier emphasis on the huge crescendo created by that whoosh sound at this point since it's pretty much the apex.
3. 04:19:430 (9) - Please keep the path of (7) and (8). 7 and 8 aren't even lined up to each other due to the angle. Its incrementally going upwards out of the line that the slider makes since I'd be out of room otherwise.
This Normal is on point!
I'm tired and edited your post as my reply instead of quote, so I messed up some of your formatting. Sorry about that. Anyway, thanks for looking into the map. I'm interested to see your suggestions for the slider shape and the clap usage. Let me know!
Thanks!Cherry Blossom wrote:
M4M.Garven's Normal
- 00:15:400 - add a note or make this tick followed to avoid the 3/2 gap, plus, this red tick is audible and could be followed.
- 01:16:296 - same as ^ These aren't really needed. There's much more musical emphasis where I already placed beats. Adding at these points would be extra unneeded fluff for an already difficult Normal.
- 00:16:072 (1,2,3,4,5) - the movement here does not look nice, you could make it better and smoother, why don't to try this
Rounded out a skosh- 00:39:803 (4) - Looks inconsistent with 00:36:557, why a 3/4 slider here 00:39:803 (4) - and not here 00:36:221 ? It should be better if you make things consistent, Plus you should make this tick followed 00:39:355 as you did there 00:35:773
Added the slider at 00:36:221 (4) -- 00:47:415 (8) - it should be better if you keep the symmetry here, try this
I guess that'll work.- 01:55:923 - add a note here to avoid the 3/2 gap, it also will make the downbeat playable, there is a strong beat which have to be played here.
I'd have to disagree. I wanted to go as minimal as possible here to have a strong contrast from the chorus back to this calm part of the verse.- 02:09:803 (7,8,1) - the distance here looks clunky, adjust the distance between notes here.
- 02:14:952 (2,3,4) - same as ^
Sure- 04:16:520 (2) - it should be better if you make a reversed 3/4 slider instead to avoid the 3/4 gap between 04:16:520 (2,3) - and make this pattern easier to read, as you did here 04:20:102 (2,3) -
I did the repeat slider at the end since it's leading into a giant spinner. You get a better feeling of gliding into the spinner instead of snapping to circles. Having the first one as a repeat slider loses the percussion aspect of the two 1/2 circles after it.
Looks a bit old-fashioned, looks nice, i really liked symmetrical patterns.
The issue is that i'm not really sure if it's good enough for ranking, it was 1 year ago, but today due to the quality requirement, many things could be improved, like rhythm, aesthetics and flow.
If there's anything here that you feel isn't up to par, please let me know. I feel that this is a solid map as it is without having to fall to the usual "have a hit object during every second of the song" cookie cutter rhythm design that is most easier maps around here.
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I really would prefer use of their hitsounds to keep consistency and also because the way this hitsound it in its tightness just doesn't fit with they type of style of hitsounding you're doing. Wish I could go into detail but, basically it just feels too overpowering to the point where its not meant for the song.Garven wrote:
Mod:General -
* Remove countdown even if it isn't active hue I'll let Kite take care of this
Garven's Normal
Can you stay consistent with the other difficulties hitsounds.
The ones used in this difficulty are very jarring and normal-hitclap4 is annoying.
I preferred it over the clap sound in the other soundset. Any points where it's particularly jarring? I can edit those points down, but I found it to be good to my ears.
1. 00:08:908 (1) - While pretty your skipping a nice beat that is even mapped in the Easy. Considering you have three different mappers here, there's going to be a wide variance on interpretation. I probably wouldn't have mapped it in Easy had I done that level of difficulty since I favor longer sliders.
2. 04:08:908 (1) - Now it's time to make something pretty. Feel free to provide an example. I really wanted the curl motion here for the flow, but if you have a suggestion to maximize prettiness, I'm all ears. So to speak.
2. 04:10:251 - I think you should end it here and add a circle on the next 1/2. I wanted a heavier emphasis on the huge crescendo created by that whoosh sound at this point since it's pretty much the apex.
3. 04:19:430 (9) - Please keep the path of (7) and (8). 7 and 8 aren't even lined up to each other due to the angle. Its incrementally going upwards out of the line that the slider makes since I'd be out of room otherwise.
This Normal is on point!
I'm tired and edited your post as my reply instead of quote, so I messed up some of your formatting. Sorry about that. Anyway, thanks for looking into the map. I'm interested to see your suggestions for the slider shape and the clap usage. Let me know!
osu file format v13
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Source:Touhou
Tags:Icicle Fall Maika 舞花 NAGI☆ ZUN 美歌 Mika Beloved Tomboyish Girl 東方紅魔郷 Koumakyou th6 eosd embodiment of scarlet devil p3n Garven
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Cherry Blossom wrote:
p3n's Easy
Looks fine for an Easy diff, you followed vocals instead of beats and that makes this diff a bit weird, but the rhythm is consistent, so, it looks fine. Thanks! The vocal follow is just a simple result of all the tests I did with beginners that have no background in rhythm games. They tend to follow vocals or simple beats while the majority thought vocal follow is "more interesting to play".
- 01:29:952 - add a note here, i sounds kinda empty without a note here because you can hear something really powerful on this tick. I left this one out to increase recovery time and to keep the vocal follow intact, would be weird to have this
- 02:52:341 - same as ^
- 03:30:848 (2) - hmm, i think there could be a better and smoother movement here, try this instead okay, smoother now
- 04:20:549 (3,4,5,6) - same as ^, the movement could be improved to make this shape smoother. changed as well
TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:
Mod:
1. 00:08:460 (4) - Would throw off a newer player. how?
2. 01:34:878 (2) - May you please make this the same shape as: 01:36:893 (4) - just with the curve going upward instead of down the tight curve makes for a nice hopping effect on the full beats - (4) is not on full beats anyway and therefore smoother. I know why you want it to be symmetrical but as it is hard enough to get any variety into easy diffs I'll take whatever I can.
Also, add a bit more curve to both for aesthetics. curved the vocal slider a bit more
3. 03:03:311 (5) - Maybe loosen the curve on this one? ok
4. 04:01:744 (2) - Same as "2" same reason as before for not changing it
Very solid easy, I like what you got here. Thanks!
orz, I'll checkp3n wrote:
Late late late late late....(sorry)
Have you considered how the map fits with the other two in the set as a whole? The reason this Normal is a little harder than usual is due to the Hard being fairly difficult with it's more liberal use of rhythms and spacing. This map is designed to fit between a super-easy Easy and a borderline Insane Hard difficulty and I found it quite fair. Look beyond star ratings and see how it plays in the context of the set. If you find things that are unreasonable, then please point them out and we can work from there.-Bakari- wrote:
[Garven's Normal]
Sorry to say that, but you really should consider dropping the star rating of this diff to something below 2,25. So, it will have the "N" icon and it will fix the balance of the spread. // If you are unsure about the way to do it, begin with replacing 03:19:654 (2,3,4,5) and 03:29:505 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - - patterns like this one with sliders as they are much easier to hit and may drop the star rating.
As it may require remapping of some parts, I will not mod it for now. However, you are welcome to ask me to check this diff when/if you decide to simplify it. Alternatively, you can ask the host-mapper to get aanother guest Normal and have two Normal diffs. Keep that in mind, if you are sure that there is nothing you can do to make the diff easier.
-Bakari- wrote:
Yo. rawr
[p3n's Easy]
- As the rhythm contains a few 3/2 patterns and the song itself is quite long, I would highly suggest using OD2. seems fair
- 00:08:908 (1,2) - this kind of overlaps may trick beginners as the tails of the sliders are overlapped a bit. Although it is readable, I still suggest you to avoid such patterns as they may bug beginners a bit. Hmm in my tests a few years ago the only thing first time players couldn't handle at all were stacked circles. I'll consider it next time.
Note: 02:10:699 (1,3) - kinda similar thing happens here. Just a little change like this should help. in play mode there is no visible overlap of the sliders. Only the short overlap of the hitburst and the slider head :/- 01:09:579 (4) - minor - the change of the slider's direction is too sudden, I would recommend you to make it a bit softer. It will make the slider slightly more readable. Example the sharp turn of 01:09:579 (4) - matches the vocals exactly. That is the reason for this shape
Note: 02:31:967 (4) - please, make sure that you change this one if you agree with the suggestion above!- 01:13:385 (1,1) - isn't that a bit too soon after the spinner? I higly suggest you to finish the spinner at 01:14:952 - so, tere is enough time to spin and enough time to recover after the spinner. hehe I see what you did there Even if it was more than a full second of recovery time I changed it anyway. Don't want Garven to unrank this mapset because of me.
Note: 02:35:773 (1,1) - same.- 04:12:266 (3,1) - I am sure that hte spacing change here will trick newbies. I thing it was done by mistake as it feels really out of place and unexpected here. okay okay I'm finally changing it. The reason this was kept as is was that NOT EVEN BEGINNERS play sliders to their exact ending points. The spacing while playing felt intentional. But I agree that reading the spacing is harder than it should be.
Pretty nice. I did not really like a few patterns, but overall, it is well-done. thanks :3
Overall, the diffs are cool. The main issue is the EHH spread, which is unbalanced.
That is not true. The letter descriptions of the difficulties are just not fitting here:
1.3 -> 2.4 -> 3.4 is actually a very nice spread from the star ratings alone. If you look at the different nature of all three diffs it becomes even more obvious:
Easy (E) - low consistent spacing, evenly and slow paced, no stacks.
Normal (H) - low to medium spacing with some symmetry patterns, evenly but faster paced, stacks, no 1/4 hits
Hard (H) - organic spacing with minor jumps, different pacing for KIAI/nonKIAI, stacks, triplets and streams (1/4 hits)
It makes for a nice spread without overdoing it in a 4th, overmapped Insane (I) diff. I like the spread and I don't say this because I made a GD for this set
Updated-Bakari- wrote:
[Hard]Thanks a lot for checking, I am glad you like it!
- 01:07:788 (6,1) - I felt like the jump was exaggerated a bit. Even for a drop-off slider, the jump is still rather exaggerated. Consider doing something here to reduce the jump? Fixed
Note: 01:47:415 (9,1) - just the same here. You can reduce the DS of a few jumps to make the diff a bit easier. This is still a Hard diff, after all. This doesn't seem as bad as the first jump you mentioned, so I kept it.- 02:39:691 (2,3) - minor - probably you'd like to make (3) blankt (2) as this is what you did with a lot of similar patterns. I'll consider it, but for now I like it more as it is.
I just loved the diff a lot! It flows well, it is neat and the rhythm is interesting. You could work a bit more on jumps to make them more fitting/balanced, but I love the diff even as it is!
Fixed both ಠ_ಠhappy30 wrote:
[p3n's Easy]
Some allignments i'd like to see neatened up!
00:08:012 (3,4,1) - Form a perfect curve with these objects?
04:06:445 (3,4,5,6) - Align them into a straight line?