Actually I hold negative thought overall on your map

Insane:
00:00:997 (997|3,997|1,1169|1,1169|3,1340|0,1340|2,1512|1,1512|3,1683|4,1683|2) - This is the main suggestion. you have split single sound into 2 notes. Only a few of this pattern is OK, but not on the whole map. you may know that in mania in most cases you follow one key is one sound rule. the sound would either be vocal or instrument. What's more, there should be enough sound (what you catch now + drum hits) to make the map still have nearly the same difficulty with far more reasonable pattern.

Example for changing on this part:
00:00:997 (997|1,997|4,1169|0,1340|4,1340|2,1512|3,1512|0,1683|2,1683|1,1855|0) -

I won't point out similar suggestions later.

00:09:226 (9226|2) - As of insane diff, a few more 1/4 drums may be OK.
00:21:740 (21740|4) - ^ this time 1/4 on other instrument
00:33:569 (33569|0,33912|4,33912|2,34255|2,34255|3,34597|0,34597|1,34940|4,34940|1,35283|3,35283|4) - I think you are making some beautiful patterns, however this really make little sense...
00:59:797 (59797|0,59969|0,59969|4,60140|4,60312|4,60312|1,60483|1,60655|3,60655|1,60826|3,60997|3,60997|2,61169|2,61340|1,61340|2) - ^
01:23:797 (83797|1) - some 1/4 here?
01:25:512 (85512|1,85683|0,85855|1,86197|2,86369|0,86455|0,86540|3,86712|0,86883|4) - Actually I think this is the place to put doubles

Wish your map becoming better!

xxbidiao wrote:

Actually I hold negative thought overall on your map

Insane:
00:00:997 (997|3,997|1,1169|1,1169|3,1340|0,1340|2,1512|1,1512|3,1683|4,1683|2) - This is the main suggestion. you have split single sound into 2 notes. Only a few of this pattern is OK, but not on the whole map. you may know that in mania in most cases you follow one key is one sound rule. the sound would either be vocal or instrument. What's more, there should be enough sound (what you catch now + drum hits) to make the map still have nearly the same difficulty with far more reasonable pattern. The vast majority of the chords are matched to two (or more) things in the music or in a very few cases are so strong that I don't feel a single note would do it justice (eg. 00:49:340). I have gone through the song and changed the dozen or so that weren't either of these things, though.

Example for changing on this part:
00:00:997 (997|1,997|4,1169|0,1340|4,1340|2,1512|3,1512|0,1683|2,1683|1,1855|0) - Good suggestion. Done.

I won't point out similar suggestions later.

00:09:226 (9226|2) - As of insane diff, a few more 1/4 drums may be OK. Done, and in a few other places too.
00:21:740 (21740|4) - ^ this time 1/4 on other instrument Not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. Whatever it is, though, I think this bit is fine as it is now.
00:33:569 (33569|0,33912|4,33912|2,34255|2,34255|3,34597|0,34597|1,34940|4,34940|1,35283|3,35283|4) - I think you are making some beautiful patterns, however this really make little sense... This section has a completely different feel to the rest of the music, so I wanted it to feel different playing it too. I guess the default would be what I have on the hard difficulty, but I wanted it to be more than that one has. But I agree that what I had before barely fitted. Hopefully what's there now is better.
00:59:797 (59797|0,59969|0,59969|4,60140|4,60312|4,60312|1,60483|1,60655|3,60655|1,60826|3,60997|3,60997|2,61169|2,61340|1,61340|2) - ^ Changed it.
01:23:797 (83797|1) - some 1/4 here? Yup.
01:25:512 (85512|1,85683|0,85855|1,86197|2,86369|0,86455|0,86540|3,86712|0,86883|4) - Actually I think this is the place to put doubles Only added one to the last note - anything more would break the feel of it I think.

Wish your map becoming better!

Also made a whole load of other changes, including to offset, which means that all the times will be out slightly on what they were before.

In fact, I made so many changes there, both triggered by your mod directly or just as a result of fine-combing through the whole thing (which admittedly I hadn't done yet for that difficulty), that I think I'm going to have to go back over it again at some point. That'll do for now, though.

Thanks a lot for the mod.

[General]
Title : 2学期デビュー大作戦!!
Title (Romanised) : 2 Gakki Debut Daisakusen!!
Artist : 乙女新党
Artist (Romanised) : Otome Shintou
-------------------------------
00:56:895 - Add Kiai time
01:18:838 - End Kiai time
Check Aimods
Add hitsound

[Karin]
00:22:267 - Add note at 4th
00:32:038 - Add note at 4th
00:41:809 - Add double note

[Claire]
00:05:638 (5638|2,5809|3) - Ctrl + H then move to left
00:32:381 (32381|3,32552|4) - Ctrl + H then move to right by 1 column
01:04:267 - Add note

[Sakura]
00:11:638 (11638|4) - Remove
00:08:209 (8209|4) - Remove
00:43:867 (43867|0) - Remove
00:53:295 (53295|3,53467|3,53638|3) - make stairs/stream
00:56:381 (56381|2) - Remove
01:04:781 (64781|4) - Remove
01:15:752 (75752|4) - Remove
01:18:152 (78152|4) - Remove

[Natsuki]
00:01:524 (1524|1) - move to 0
00:02:895 (2895|3) - move to 4
00:11:638 (11638|4) - move to 2
00:11:809 (11809|2) - move to 4
00:31:352 (31352|1) - move to 3
00:41:809 (41809|4,41981|3,42152|2) - change to single note ?
00:42:838 (42838|0) - Remove
00:43:867 (43867|0) - Remove
00:50:724 (50724|0,50895|0,51067|0) - Ctrl + H
01:11:638 (71638|2,71809|2) - move to 3
01:11:981 (71981|2,72152|2) - move to 2
01:27:409 (87409|2,87409|0,87409|4,87409|1,87409|3) - this can't be 5 note at same time, consider to remove 1 or 2 note (Quadruple or Triple)

[Botan]
00:09:924 (9924|3) - Remove
00:22:267 (22267|4) - move to 3rd
00:24:324 (24324|1) - move to left and 00:24:324 (24324|3) - move to right
00:29:724 (29724|2) - move to 1
00:52:867 (52867|4,52952|4) - stream/stairs ?
01:26:381 (86381|0,86467|0) - ^
01:27:409 (87409|3,87409|1,87409|0,87409|2,87409|4) - this can't be 5 note at same time, consider to remove 1 or 2 note (Quadruple or Triple)

Reikosaka wrote:

[General]
Title : 2学期デビュー大作戦!!
Title (Romanised) : 2 Gakki Debut Daisakusen!!
Artist : 乙女新党
Artist (Romanised) : Otome Shintou done
-------------------------------
00:56:895 - Add Kiai time done
01:18:838 - End Kiai time done
Check Aimods
Add hitsound I don't really get these.

[Karin]
00:22:267 - Add note at 4th done
00:32:038 - Add note at 4th done
00:41:809 - Add double note not done - this difficulty has no doubles and I don't want to change that. And if I did, there wouldn't be the place. I did add a note there, though, and another at 00:42:152.

[Claire]
00:05:638 (5638|2,5809|3) - Ctrl + H then move to left done
00:32:381 (32381|3,32552|4) - Ctrl + H then move to right by 1 column done
01:04:267 - Add note done, and shifted a couple of others too

[Sakura]
00:11:638 (11638|4) - Remove done
00:08:209 (8209|4) - Remove done
00:43:867 (43867|0) - Remove not done. There wants to be a note there.
00:53:295 (53295|3,53467|3,53638|3) - make stairs/stream done
00:56:381 (56381|2) - Remove done
01:04:781 (64781|4) - Remove done
01:15:752 (75752|4) - Remove done
01:18:152 (78152|4) - Remove done - also flipped the 4 notes before this

[Natsuki]
00:01:524 (1524|1) - move to 0 done, albeit slightly reluctantly
00:02:895 (2895|3) - move to 4 as above
00:11:638 (11638|4) - move to 2 done
00:11:809 (11809|2) - move to 4 done
00:31:352 (31352|1) - move to 3 done
00:41:809 (41809|4,41981|3,42152|2) - change to single note ? done
00:42:838 (42838|0) - Remove moved it instead
00:43:867 (43867|0) - Remove same as previous difficulty, yet more obvious to keep this time
00:50:724 (50724|0,50895|0,51067|0) - Ctrl + H done, and shifted the rest of the notes in this section as well
01:11:638 (71638|2,71809|2) - move to 3 done
01:11:981 (71981|2,72152|2) - move to 2 assuming you mean move to 1, done
01:27:409 (87409|2,87409|0,87409|4,87409|1,87409|3) - this can't be 5 note at same time, consider to remove 1 or 2 note (Quadruple or Triple) done

[Botan]
00:09:924 (9924|3) - Remove done. I'll take your word for it.
00:22:267 (22267|4) - move to 3rd done
00:24:324 (24324|1) - move to left and 00:24:324 (24324|3) - move to right done
00:29:724 (29724|2) - move to 1 done, slightly reluctantly
00:52:867 (52867|4,52952|4) - stream/stairs ? sort of done, along with a few other changes in that part
01:26:381 (86381|0,86467|0) - ^ done
01:27:409 (87409|3,87409|1,87409|0,87409|2,87409|4) - this can't be 5 note at same time, consider to remove 1 or 2 note (Quadruple or Triple) done

Thanks a lot.

Mod by request
column:1 2 3 4 5

karin
00:10:952 (10952|0) - Become a hold till 00:11:638 -
00:23:295 - Add a Note
00:23:638 - Add a Note
00:31:181 - Add a Note to 3
00:52:781 (52781|2) - Move to 5
00:53:467 (53467|2) - Move to 1
00:53:809 (53809|2) - Move to 4
00:55:524 - Add a Hold till 00:56:209 -
00:56:209 - Add a Hold till 00:56:895 -
01:25:867 (85867|1) - Move to 4
01:26:552 (86552|3) - Move to 2

Claire
00:00:667 (667|0,1009|0) - Move to 4
00:02:038 (2038|3,2381|3) - Move to 2
00:03:409 (3409|1,3752|1) - Move to 5
00:26:038 - Add a Note
00:26:381 - Add a Note
00:32:038 (32038|0) - Move to 4
00:42:838 (42838|2) - Move to 2
00:46:952 - Add a Note to 3
00:49:695 - Add a Note to 3
00:56:209 - Become a Hold till 00:56:895 -
01:11:981 (71981|1) - Move to 4
01:12:152 (72152|1) - Move to 1
01:12:838 (72838|3) - Move to 5

Sakura
00:00:667 (667|2,838|3,1009|4) - All left 1 column
00:11:638 - Add a Note and remove a Hold
00:22:267 - Add a Note
00:22:781 (22781|3) - Move to 5
00:23:467 (23467|1) - Move to 1
00:50:038 - ~ 00:53:124 - I suggest not to be 3 push
01:21:581 (81581|2) - The hold should be end at 01:22:609 -

Natsuki
00:08:209 (8209|0) - Remove
00:41:638 - Add a Note
00:47:638 - Add a Hold till 00:47:981 -
00:47:809 - Remove

Botan
00:43:867 (43867|1) - Move to 1
00:44:209 (44209|1) - Move to 3
01:26:895 (86895|2) - Become a Hold till 01:27:067 -

Good Luck

Simple_Star wrote:

Mod by request
column:1 2 3 4 5

karin
00:10:952 (10952|0) - Become a hold till 00:11:638 - not done. I know why you're saying this, because it does match the music, but I think it feels a bit out of place to have a hold ending in a hit there and nowhere else
00:23:295 - Add a Note done
00:23:638 - Add a Note done
00:31:181 - Add a Note to 3 done
00:52:781 (52781|2) - Move to 5 done
00:53:467 (53467|2) - Move to 1 done
00:53:809 (53809|2) - Move to 4 done
00:55:524 - Add a Hold till 00:56:209 - done
00:56:209 - Add a Hold till 00:56:895 - not done - this difficulty is called "super easy" for a reason. Just having the one above makes this feel more right
01:25:867 (85867|1) - Move to 4
01:26:552 (86552|3) - Move to 2 done to both though not entirely sure if that's better

Claire
00:00:667 (667|0,1009|0) - Move to 4 done
00:02:038 (2038|3,2381|3) - Move to 2 done
00:03:409 (3409|1,3752|1) - Move to 5 done
00:26:038 - Add a Note done
00:26:381 - Add a Note done
00:32:038 (32038|0) - Move to 4 done
00:42:838 (42838|2) - Move to 2 done
00:46:952 - Add a Note to 3 done
00:49:695 - Add a Note to 3 done
00:56:209 - Become a Hold till 00:56:895 - done
01:11:981 (71981|1) - Move to 4 done
01:12:152 (72152|1) - Move to 1 done
01:12:838 (72838|3) - Move to 5 done

Sakura
00:00:667 (667|2,838|3,1009|4) - All left 1 column done
00:11:638 - Add a Note and remove a Hold done
00:22:267 - Add a Note done
00:22:781 (22781|3) - Move to 5 done
00:23:467 (23467|1) - Move to 1 done
00:50:038 - ~ 00:53:124 - I suggest not to be 3 push changed this
01:21:581 (81581|2) - The hold should be end at 01:22:609 - done and changed a few other notes to fit

Natsuki
00:08:209 (8209|0) - Remove done
00:41:638 - Add a Note done, along with a few other changes to make it fit better
00:47:638 - Add a Hold till 00:47:981 - done
00:47:809 - Remove done

Botan
00:43:867 (43867|1) - Move to 1 done
00:44:209 (44209|1) - Move to 3 done
01:26:895 (86895|2) - Become a Hold till 01:27:067 - done

Good Luck

Thanks a lot.

Hi there (from SRMQ) :3/

Shi-Ra's Patterns Review:
(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 4)
Sakura

Natsuki

Botan

Both easy diffs are good for me ^w^ Other diffs are mapped good too :3
Good luck :3/

[Shi-Ra] wrote:

Hi there (from SRMQ) :3/

Shi-Ra's Patterns Review:
(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 4)
Sakura

Inside :3

I suppose that it's EZ+, not NM completely, so there's some patterns suggestions:
00:03:752 (3752|1) - move to 3rd column according to the beat not done - the following note matches that as well and I think it plays better to have it in column 1
00:07:524 - add here note in 4th column, it'll not ruin the pattern done - thought it would be intrusive but when I test played it I didn't even realise it was there.
00:26:038 (26038|3) - move to 4th column and
this one 00:26:209 (26209|4) - to 2nd column and
this 00:26:381 (26381|3) - to 0 column all done
00:54:667 (54667|0) - move to 2nd column and
00:54:838 (54838|1) - to 3rd column done
00:58:438 (58438|3) - move to 1st column, it's hard for EZ+ done
01:09:581 (69581|1) - move to 3rd column done

Natsuki

Inside :3

Well, it's light HD, good mapped as I saw ^w^
There's some suggestions:
00:00:838 (838|0) - move to 1st column done
00:01:524 (1524|0) - and this one move to 1st column too done - not entirely sure why that wasn't there already
00:02:895 (2895|4) - move to 3rd column done
00:08:038 (8038|4) - turn into LN and end it at 00:08:552 done
00:10:438 (10438|0) - move to 1st column and
00:10:438 (10438|4) - move to 3rd not done, but changed that bit in a different way. Don't want to move both of these as then that chord would be the same as the following hold, which it doesn't want to be.
00:22:095 (22095|2) - move to 1st column and done
00:22:781 (22781|1) - move to 2nd column done
00:48:324 (48324|3) - move to 0 column done
00:50:381 - add note to 4th column
00:51:067 - add note to 0 column
00:51:752 - ^ to 3rd column and
00:52:438 - ^ to 1st column all done
01:14:381 - add note to 2nd column not strong enough for a chord but did move the note instead
01:15:752 - ^ ^
01:26:552 - add note to 1st column and finally
01:26:895 - add note to 0 column here done

Botan

Inside :3

Most of all patterns are good, there's only some recommendations:
00:01:009 (1009|4) - move to 3rd column done
00:12:495 (12495|2) - move to 1st column done
00:12:838 (12838|4) - move to 3rd column done
00:17:638 (17638|4) - move to 1st column again
00:17:981 (17981|0) - move to 3rd column
00:18:324 (18324|4) - move to 1st again done all
00:22:952 (22952|4) - move to 3rd again done
00:28:952 (28952|1) - move to 0 column done, not sure why it was there.
00:41:981 (41981|2) - move to 4th column done, though not entirely sure that's right - that note is awkward both for mapping and testing
01:09:752 (69752|3) - move to 2nd done
Finally add LN here 01:27:409 in 2nd column and end it at 01:28:438 that one had 5 notes to start with but I was told it shouldn't so I got rid of one. Consulting a second opinion also says it's fine. But I put the longer holds on the outside, the shorter ones on the inside and the hit on the middle one, because that feels better to me.

Both easy diffs are good for me ^w^ Other diffs are mapped good too :3
Good luck :3/

Thanks.

collumn : left to right 12345
[Karin]
seems fine. juz atleast HP 7 to all diffs
[Claire]
00:43:009 (43009|0) - move to 2
00:43:867 (43867|0,44038|1,44209|2,44381|3,44552|4) - arrange to 15151 instead of 12345
01:03:238 (63238|1) - move to 5
01:04:609 (64609|1) - move to 4
01:09:752 - add?
01:15:752 (75752|0) - move to 4
Good map!
[Sakura]
00:05:638 (5638|2) - move to 2
00:49:009 (49009|3) - delete
01:09:581 (69581|3,69752|1) - move to right by 1
01:24:495 - add
good diff
[Natsuki]
00:04:781 (4781|0) - move to 3
00:04:952 - add at 1
00:29:638 (29638|1) - move to 1
00:36:152 - add
00:36:238 - add
00:36:324 - add
00:50:209 (50209|0) - move to 3
00:50:895 (50895|4) - move to 2
00:51:581 (51581|1) - move to 5
01:18:324 - add at 4
[Botan]
when i say double i mean this 00:49:009 (49009|4,49009|2) -
00:10:267 (10267|1,10438|2) - make doubles instead?
00:10:267 - add at 5
00:39:752 (39752|4) - move to 3
00:39:924 (39924|2) - move to 5
00:40:267 (40267|3) - move to 5
00:40:352 (40352|4) - move to 4
00:40:438 (40438|2) - move to 1
00:40:438 (40438|3) - move to 3
00:41:124 (41124|0) - move to 3
00:44:552 - add
00:47:638 (47638|1,47809|2,47981|3) - make doubles?
00:55:181 - add
01:03:409 - add at 1
01:08:038 (68038|4) - move to 4
01:26:724 (86724|0) - make hold like this? 01:26:895 (86895|2) -

- R u m i a - wrote:

collumn : left to right 12345
[Karin]
seems fine. juz atleast HP 7 to all diffs done
[Claire]
00:43:009 (43009|0) - move to 2 done, and moved the note before the other way
00:43:867 (43867|0,44038|1,44209|2,44381|3,44552|4) - arrange to 15151 instead of 12345 not done - it's better as it is
01:03:238 (63238|1) - move to 5
01:04:609 (64609|1) - move to 4 not done because it would disrupt that entire section for no real gain, although I can sort of see why you would recommend it
01:09:752 - add? feels better without
01:15:752 (75752|0) - move to 4 not done because I can't see how to balance the map while moving it.
Good map!
[Sakura]
00:05:638 (5638|2) - move to 2 not done - if you think of this as a pattern of two notes it makes sense, but if you think of it as the last two notes of a pattern of 6 (which is what it is) then it doesn't.
00:49:009 (49009|3) - delete no thanks
01:09:581 (69581|3,69752|1) - move to right by 1 interesting. I nearly did this, but it doesn't really fit the music so not done.
01:24:495 - add There's already something there and doesn't want more
good diff
[Natsuki]
00:04:781 (4781|0) - move to 3
00:04:952 - add at 1 great idea - done to both.
00:29:638 (29638|1) - move to 1 done, and a few changes on either side to make it fit.
00:36:152 - add
00:36:238 - add
00:36:324 - add no thanks - don't want to add notes to this section of this difficulty
00:50:209 (50209|0) - move to 3
00:50:895 (50895|4) - move to 2
00:51:581 (51581|1) - move to 5 I prefer this as it is.
01:18:324 - add at 4 not done, but did shift the notes in a different way
[Botan]
when i say double i mean this 00:49:009 (49009|4,49009|2) -
00:10:267 (10267|1,10438|2) - make doubles instead? I think I had that at first but prefer this - that hold balances out the following one.
00:10:267 - add at 5
00:39:752 (39752|4) - move to 3 done
00:39:924 (39924|2) - move to 5 done
00:40:267 (40267|3) - move to 5
00:40:352 (40352|4) - move to 4
00:40:438 (40438|2) - move to 1
00:40:438 (40438|3) - move to 3 changed this in a different way. Not sure if it's better than what I had before or not, but it fits better with the good changes you suggested above than what I had previously, and I don't really want to put the hold on the left hand column. It also means that the next bit is better too.
00:41:124 (41124|0) - move to 3 invalidated by changes made in connection to the above
00:44:552 - add doesn't need or want more than the two things that are already there
00:47:638 (47638|1,47809|2,47981|3) - make doubles? far too soft
00:55:181 - add done
01:03:409 - add at 1 done - too soft for a double really but it feels better
01:08:038 (68038|4) - move to 4 done
01:26:724 (86724|0) - make hold like this? 01:26:895 (86895|2) - this is a beat so hold wouldn't be appropriate

Even though I didn't make most of the suggested changes, there were some very good ideas there, so thanks.

[General]

Make use of hit-sounds more?
Emphasize on vocals by adding more notes on them
Make more use of inheriting points whereby sound is lower or raised and velocity is increased or decreased, this will make your map more interesting
Try not to use too much hammers in simpler difficulties, hammers can be hard even for some advanced players

[Botan]

00:00:667 (667|4) - Comment 1
00:21:752 (21752|4,21752|0) - Extend the 2 sliders by 1/2 (Mu) vocal is longer than mapped
00:33:581 - Speed change to 80% - 90% ?
- 00:41:809 - Speed change back 100%
00:41:809 (41809|4) - Comment 1
01:07:867 (67867|0,68209|1,68552|0) - Comment 1

Comment 1 - Why the Sliders ? [Change if you want to]

[Natsuki]

Too much hammers compared to Botan (Reduce it?)

00:41:981 - Add
00:42:152 - Add
00:42:838 - Del? [ I assume you are going for the vocals here ]

[Sakura]

00:00:838 (838|2) - Del? [ No significant beat here ]

[Claire]

01:05:295 - Add
01:05:981 - Add
01:20:381 - Add

[Karin]

( 00:00:667 to 00:02:724 ) to ( 00:03:409 to 00:11:638 ) feels awkward for the transition from 1 beat to 2 beats between the 2 sections add notes to the second section or delete notes from the first section?

lZenxl wrote:

[General]

Make use of hit-sounds more? I'm more than willing to do this, but would need someone to tell me exactly what to do with these as I play with sound effects turned off.
Emphasize on vocals by adding more notes on them Not sure what you're asking for here. Most of the beatmap is already mapped to them.
Make more use of inheriting points whereby sound is lower or raised and velocity is increased or decreased, this will make your map more interesting sound falls in with what I said above. I don't really want SV changes in this piece.
Try not to use too much hammers in simpler difficulties, hammers can be hard even for some advanced players changes to Natsuki difficulty commented on below. Other difficulties other than Botan don't really have them anymore anyway

[Botan]

00:00:667 (667|4) - Comment 1 I was wondering if someone would bring this up at some point. This was actually a leftover from when I was mapping the full song rather than the short tv version. In the full piece that's the end of a definite hold, but by this stage it's kind of faint, so I was toying with the idea of getting rid of it, but noone mentioned it in mods so I started thinking it would be better if I left it in. It's now gone, though.
00:21:752 (21752|4,21752|0) - Extend the 2 sliders by 1/2 (Mu) vocal is longer than mapped done. Incidentally, it's the shorter length in Natsuki [Hard] difficulty as well, but there I feel it's better as it is, due to leading into the following pattern. Any thoughts?
00:33:581 - Speed change to 80% - 90% ?
- 00:41:809 - Speed change back 100% As I said before, I don't really want SV changes in this map.
00:41:809 (41809|4) - Comment 1 That's mapped to the background music - I'm not sure if it's actually a hold or multiple notes with such heavy slurring that it sounds like one.
01:07:867 (67867|0,68209|1,68552|0) - Comment 1 If you listen to the beats in this part closely you'll hear that they actually are half-beat long notes. This actually continues for longer than I've mapped it in but gradually gets less clear over time and I've got to end it at some point.

Comment 1 - Why the Sliders ? [Change if you want to]

[Natsuki]

Too much hammers compared to Botan (Reduce it?) I changed the bit from 00:50 to 00:55 - originally all non-easy difficulties had been jackhammer heavy in that bit but for the later part this was the only one that I hadn't changed. Now I have. Also changed the bit at the start of the chorus.

00:41:981 - Add not done
00:42:152 - Add done
00:42:838 - Del? [ I assume you are going for the vocals here ] still unsure on this one so leaving as is for now

[Sakura]

00:00:838 (838|2) - Del? [ No significant beat here ] there's no beat, but there is a note, and almost all that intro section is mapped to the notes, not the beats

[Claire]

01:05:295 - Add
01:05:981 - Add no thanks - only putting hits on the beats for this bit of this difficulty, and it works fine as it is
01:20:381 - Add done and shifted a few other notes around as well

[Karin]

( 00:00:667 to 00:02:724 ) to ( 00:03:409 to 00:11:638 ) feels awkward for the transition from 1 beat to 2 beats between the 2 sections add notes to the second section or delete notes from the first section? you're right. I added a few notes (and deleted one as well) so hopefully now it feels better.

Thanks.

00:21:752 (21752|4,21752|0) - Extend the 2 sliders by 1/2 (Mu) vocal is longer than mapped done. Incidentally, it's the shorter length in Natsuki [Hard] difficulty as well, but there I feel it's better as it is, due to leading into the following pattern. Any thoughts?

I think it's fine for Hard since long notes overlapping normal notes can be challenging for most players [No kud]

ok hitsounds mod

1 : go to timing http://puu.sh/5eP4A.jpg
2 : Timing Setup Panel http://puu.sh/5eP7q.jpg
3 : set audio to soft and costom 1 set volume to 40 or 45 % ( click on red and green line ) http://puu.sh/5ePeT.jpg
4 : load drum sounds form this http://puu.sh/5eP00
5 : re-load osu (out form edit and go edit mode agin)


[For ALL DIFF add drum hitsounds ]

how to add : click on note and click hitsound you want http://puu.sh/5ePqS.jpg

ok mod hitsounds time xD (use only 3 drumsounds / cymbol = fin , snare = clap , bassdrum = whistle )

fin = finish , wh = whistle , clap = clap
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00:00:667 : fin + wh
00:01:009 : clap + wh
00:01:352 : wh
00:01:524 : ^
00:01:695 : clap + wh
00:02:038 : wh
00:02:381 : clap + wh
00:02:724 : wh
00:02:895 : ^
00:03:067 : clap + wh
00:03:409 : wh
00:03:752 : clap + wh
00:04:095 : wh
00:04:267 : ^
00:04:438 : clap + wh
00:04:781 : wh
00:05:124 : clap + wh
00:05:467 : wh
00:05:638 : ^
00:05:809 : clap + wh
00:06:152 : fin + wh
00:06:495 : clap + wh
00:06:838 : wh
00:07:009 : ^
00:07:181 : clap + wh
00:07:524 : wh
00:07:695 : ^
00:07:867 : clap + wh
00:08:209 : wh
00:08:552 : clap + wh
00:08:895 : fin + wh
00:09:067 : clap
00:09:152 : clap
00:09:238 : clap + wh
00:09:409 : clap
00:09:495 : clap
00:09:581 : clap + wh
00:09:752 : clap
00:09:838 : clap
00:09:924 : clap + wh
00:10:095 : clap
00:10:181 : clap
00:10:267 : fin + wh
00:10:438 : ^
00:10:952 : wh
00:11:638 : fin + wh
00:11:981 : clap
00:12:324 : wh
00:12:667 : clap
00:13:009 : wh
00:13:352 : clap
00:13:695 : wh
00:14:038 : clap
00:14:381 : wh
00:14:724 : clap
00:15:067 : wh
00:15:409 : clap
00:15:752 : wh
00:16:095 : clap
00:16:438 : wh
00:16:781 : clap
00:17:124 : fin + wh
00:17:467 : clap
00:17:809 : wh
00:18:152 : clap
00:18:495 : wh
00:18:838 : clap
00:19:181 : wh
00:19:524 : clap
00:19:867 : wh
00:20:209 : clap
00:20:552 : wh
00:20:895 : clap
00:21:238 : clap + wh
00:21:409 : clap
00:22:095 : wh
00:22:267 : clap
00:22:438 : wh
00:22:609 : ^
00:22:952 : clap + wh
00:23:295 : wh
00:23:638 : clap + wh
00:23:981 : wh
00:24:324 : clap + wh
00:24:667 : wh
00:25:009 : clap + wh
00:25:352 : wh
00:25:695 : clap + wh
00:26:038 : wh
00:26:381 : clap + wh
00:26:724 : wh
00:27:067 : clap + wh
00:27:409 : wh
00:27:752 : clap + wh
00:28:095 : wh
00:28:438 : clap + wh
00:28:781 : wh
00:29:124 : clap + wh
00:29:467 : wh
00:29:809 : clap + wh
00:30:152 : wh
00:30:495 : clap + wh
00:30:838 : fin + wh
00:31:181 : clap + wh
00:31:352 : clap
00:31:524 : wh
00:31:867 : clap
00:32:038 : wh
00:32:381 : clap
00:32:552 : clap
00:32:724 : clap
00:32:895 : clap
00:33:238 : wh
00:33:581 : wh
00:33:924 : wh
00:34:267 : ^
00:34:609 : ^
00:34:952 : ^
00:35:295 : ^
00:35:638 : ^
00:35:981 : ^
00:36:324 : ^
00:36:667 : ^
00:37:009 : ^
00:37:352 : ^
00:37:695 : ^
00:38:038 : ^
00:38:381 : ^
00:38:724 : ^
00:39:067 : ^
00:42:495 : ^
00:42:667 : ^
00:42:838 : ^
00:43:009 : clap
00:44:552 : fin + wh
00:45:067 : wh
00:45:238 : ^
00:45:581 : clap
--------------------------
00:45:924 : wh
00:46:438 : ^
00:46:609 : ^
00:46:952 : clap
00:47:295 : wh
00:47:809 : ^
00:47:981 : ^
00:48:324 : clap
00:48:667 : ^
00:49:009 : ^
00:49:352 : ^
00:49:695 : ^
00:50:038 : fin + wh
00:50:381 : wh
00:50:724 : ^
00:51:067 : ^
00:51:238 : clap
00:51:324 : clap
00:51:409 : fin + wh
00:51:752 : wh
00:52:095 : wh
00:52:438 : wh
00:52:609 : clap
00:52:695 : ^
00:52:781 : fin + wh
00:53:124 : wh
00:53:467 : fin + wh
00:53:809 : wh
00:54:152 : fin + wh
00:54:495 : wh
00:54:838 : ^
00:55:009 : ^
00:55:181 : fin + wh
00:56:895 : ^
00:57:238 : clap
00:57:581 : wh
00:57:924 : clap
00:58:267 : wh

i ll check it if i have time
NOTE
(add onesound on onenote ) if have one note at line add 2 sounds on one note

Thank you so much for that.

Going to add it in gradually over the next couple of days (progress in description).

Hi~
Request from PM.

That's all
good luck

Loneight wrote:

Hi~
Request from PM.

• 
  Black is just suggestion, if you don't like , you can skip it
  Blue is recommended to fix
  red is unrankable issue

[general]

1. though I have seen the hitsound help, but the hitnormal is too quiet so that lack of hiting feeling, try to increase the volume
2. check your hitsound setting, why some notes set sound, but other notes not set yet...or it haven't done?

I'm going through the hitsounds gradually, so most of the maps are still not yet done. Current progress is listed in the initial post, and just involves adding stuff in the mod above. I will go over it all again once I've finished. Although, as I've said before, I'm not good with hitsounds.

[Karin (Super Easy)]

1. try to OD +1 or OD +2, because I find all beats are notes (only has one hold) in this diff, OD = 6 is used when the diff is mostly holds done
   
   
2. 00:26:038 - it is weird for there, I feel there should have a note after 00:25:352 (25352|0,25695|2) - are hit. For example, 00:25:352 (25352|0,25695|2) - is a part and 00:26:038 - ~ 00:26:381 - is a new part. A part at lease have one note, when I prepare to hit B part, I find there no have note, this is why I feel weird. In a word, add a note or notes at 00:26:038 - . 00:14:381 (14381|2,15067|0) - would prove my hypothesis. Also, 00:27:409 - , 00:56:209 - same as here

I'm actually rather fond of the bit you mentioned. I don't want to change it unless I have to.
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[Claire (Easy)]

1. 00:09:238 (9238|0) - remove it, I think 00:00:667 - ~ 00:11:467 - is follow the keyboard, but the note dosen't follow it, if you want to keep it, move to 1st lane to make sure it's different others did the latter. Thanks for pointing this out.
2. 01:04:781 - add a note, I hear there is same 01:15:752 (75752|0) - sound, but there dosen't have note,

done
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[Sakura (Normal)]

1. 00:49:695 (49695|3) - there sound same as 00:49:352 (49352|2,49352|4) - , but only have a note.. try to add a note

fixed
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[Natsuki (Hard)]

1. 00:16:952 (16952|4) - move it to 00:16:781 - to make there same as 00:14:381 (14381|0,14381|1,14552|2,14724|4,14724|3,14895|2,15067|1,15067|0,15238|2,15409|3,15409|4) - sound not done, but I did add another note at 16:781
2. 00:20:895 - add a note, reason is same as ^ done
3. 00:44:895 (44895|3) - change to hold to make there same as 00:47:638 (47638|3) - would be better good idea. Changed a few other notes in that part around too to match.
4. [color=#0000FF]01:04:952 (64952|3) - I feel there added reluctantly, because it wouldn't be suitable, try to remove it not entirely sure on this, but it does feel fine without that press, so removed
5. 01:07:438 - why there not have note? don't you want to follow the drum like 01:07:524 (67524|0,67609|1,67695|2,67781|3) - ?

the main reason it doesn't have a note was because I couldn't give it a note that fitted with the pattern. It's one of the few parts of the song that doesn't perfectly match 5k. Which is annoying. But I'd rather have something that doesn't fit the music perfectly than something that feels completely wrong playing it, and I can't find anything to put there that doesn't without making it not fit the music in another way.
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[Botan (Insane)]

1. 00:02:895 - try to add a note and change the pattern to make there same as 00:01:352 (1352|4,1352|2,1524|0,1524|3,1695|1,1695|2) - , because they sound same done. It looks slightly odd now but feels fine to play
2. 00:10:781 (10781|2) - what the note follow? I can't hear anything for there, remove it there is a note. It's not particularly strong, but it is there.
3. 00:17:295 (17295|0) - I feel there add note reluctantly, it would be better that remove it to make a pause, wouldn't it? you're right, given that there's the same thing at 16:952 which I left blank.
4. 00:27:409 (27409|2,27752|2) - I find 00:22:609 - ~ 00:32:895 - 's white line are make with 2 notes, one follow the drum, another follow the vocal. But...there dosen't..., try to add a note. Also, 00:25:352 (25352|3) - , 00:26:038 (26038|2) - , 00:28:781 (28781|1) - is same as here done to all except the last one, which isn't strong enough to warrant it.
5. 00:48:495 - I think there miss a note, because of 00:47:124 (47124|1) - I don't think a note would really fit there. That's basically a different section to the earlier note.
6. 01:04:781 - add a note would be better like 01:04:095 (64095|1,64095|3) - . Also, 01:15:752 - same as here I did add notes - although both of these sections are following vocals and hits and those notes, unlike the example you gave, has just the hit, it does give it a nice sense of finality to the section by having a double, which a single doesn't give.
7. 01:24:324 (84324|2) - change to hold to make sure like 01:25:695 (85695|0) - would be better not entirely sure what you're asking here. And that hold is to the vocals, which there aren't any of later.

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That's all
good luck

Thanks.

for all diff (i ll recheck diff if i have time) NO KD FOR THIS

PM me agin if you done all diff
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[Insane]
column :
l 1 2 3 4 5 l

00:46:952 : add clap on 5
01:11:981 : fin + wh on 1

hitsound other diff are ok for me / i think someplace note follow vocal no good for me

[Easy]
01:02:724 : note and clap
01:03:409 : ^
01:14:381 : ^
---------------------------------------------------
(i mod this cuz i think follow drum sound better then vocal on this part)
01:17:809 : remove
01:17:981 : ^
01:18:152 : note and clap
01:18:324 : remove
01:18:667 : ^
01:18:838 : note fin + wh
01:19:181 : note + wh
01:19:524 : ^
01:19:867 : ^

indyinyou wrote:

[Insane]
column :
l 1 2 3 4 5 l

00:46:952 : add clap on 5 whoops, I missed that one.
01:11:981 : fin + wh on 1 changed that section a bit so I've got them on separate notes, but I did add the finish sound

hitsound other diff are ok for me / i think someplace note follow vocal no good for me

[Easy]
01:02:724 : note and clap done
01:03:409 : ^ not done. However I did add the note there on Sakura (Normal) difficulty
01:14:381 : ^ ^
---------------------------------------------------
(i mod this cuz i think follow drum sound better then vocal on this part)
01:17:809 : remove
01:17:981 : ^
01:18:152 : note and clap
01:18:324 : remove
01:18:667 : ^
01:18:838 : note fin + wh
01:19:181 : note + wh
01:19:524 : ^
01:19:867 : ^
done all

Thanks so much for your help - I don't think I could have done all this without it. Not sure if I should, but I'll give you another kudos anyway.

Hi, nice map ^^, random mod for insane
Column (0,1,2,3,4)
00:03:228 - add note in column 3
00:05:981 - add note in column 0 or 3 (It is not necessary, but would be fine in column 3, decision yours if you add notes or not xD)
00:06:838 (6838|4) - Move to column 2 and 00:07:009 add note in column 3
from 00:08:209 - end 00:09:067 - You can make a stream --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1124971
00:16:781 - Add note in column 2
00:25:009 (25009|2) - move to column 3
00:25:181 - Add note in column 2
00:25:352 (25352|3) - move to column 4
00:25:524 (25524|4) - move to column 2
00:25:867 - Add note in column 4
00:26:038 (26038|4) move to column 3
00:30:667 - Add note in column 0
from 00:41:981 end 00:43:009 - You can make a stream --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1125028
00:48:495 - Add note in column 3
01:01:867 Add note in column 2
Mod by a newbie xD

-DanteMayCry- wrote:

Hi, nice map ^^, random mod for insane
Column (0,1,2,3,4)
00:03:228 - add note in column 3 This is (now) the only bar of gap in the first 30 seconds of the song. I'd rather keep the gap and the small amount of variety it offers than map a note that doesn't want to fit in the patterns around it and is barely audible anyway.
00:05:981 - add note in column 0 or 3 (It is not necessary, but would be fine in column 3, decision yours if you add notes or not xD) no thanks. This gets completely drowned out by the hold and wouldn't really warrant a press anyway
00:06:838 (6838|4) - Move to column 2 and 00:07:009 add note in column 3 The notes in column 4 are mapped to the beat, which there isn't one of at 00:07:009, so there doesn't want to be a note there. I'm not shifting the column of the first one either as that would create a 0-2/1/0-2 pattern, which is inappropriate. The only way to make it work would be to start by shifting the notes at 00:06:152 (6152|2) to 0 and (6495|2) to 4. While this does have some merit, I think the current situations better - I don't want a 1/0-2/1 pattern in this section either.
from 00:08:209 - end 00:09:067 - You can make a stream --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1124971 There's nothing on any of the quarter beats that you've added notes to there. While the note at 00:08:895 technically does hold for that time, so do a whole load of others, and the map would become a nightmare if I were to map them all, and this would not be one I'd add if I did decide to add a few (which in fact I have later in the map)
00:16:781 - Add note in column 2 I wrote out a really long explanation of why I wouldn't do this, and then changed my mind, so done. Also made a few other changes in that section as appropriate.
00:25:009 (25009|2) - move to column 3 not done - I came up with a better way of doing this bit that doesn't want this note moved
00:25:181 - Add note in column 2 added to 3
00:25:352 (25352|3) - move to column 4 done
00:25:524 (25524|4) - move to column 2 done
00:25:867 - Add note in column 4 added to 1
00:26:038 (26038|4) move to column 3 not done for same reason as 00:25:009
00:30:667 - Add note in column 0 a slight break here is better
from 00:41:981 end 00:43:009 - You can make a stream --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1125028 are you in love with streams or something? No thanks - doesn't fit what the music is mapped to, if it fits anything at all - again several of those quarter notes have nothing behind them, and the patterns you used don't fit the music.
00:48:495 - Add note in column 3 This is so much weaker than the stuff on the beats that it just feels wrong to have a note here.
01:01:867 Add note in column 2 too disruptive, especially as this would probably want to be a hold if it was there at all.
Mod by a newbie xD

Not many changes there but thanks anyway I guess. At least you gave me a good idea for the bit around 25-26 secs, even if it wasn't exactly what you recommended.

Hi there! I'll mod your charts as requested.

[Karin (Super Easy)]
01:25:695 (85695|0) Delete this.

[Claire (Easy)]
00:01:009 (1009|0) Move to 4th column.
00:05:638 (5638|1) Move to 1st column.
01:22:952 (82952|1,83295|1) Move to 4th column.
01:25:695 (85695|4,85867|3,86552|1,86895|0) Mirror this part (Swap 1st and 5th columns + Swap 2nd and 4th)

[Sakura (Normal)]
00:57:409 (57409|0) Move to 3rd column.
01:25:695 Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1125659

[Natsuki (Hard)]
00:10:267 (10267|1) Move to 1st column.
00:10:267 (10267|3) Move to 5th column.
00:35:981 (35981|0) Move to either 3rd or 5th column.
00:38:724 (38724|4) Move to either 1st or 3rd column.
00:39:067 Add normal note in 1st or 3rd column.
00:47:981 Add normal note in 1st column.
00:49:695 Add normal note in 1st or 3rd column.
01:14:724 Add normal note in 1st column.
01:15:067 Add normal note in 5th column.
01:15:409 ^
01:15:752 ^

[Botan (Insane)]
01:21:581 Add two normal notes in both 1st and 5th columns.
01:26:552 Add normal note in 1st column.

Hope this helps! Call me again for a BAT check once you've decided to accept/reject my mod (and finalize all changes of course) :p

PROGUY wrote:

Hi there! I'll mod your charts as requested.

[Karin (Super Easy)]
01:25:695 (85695|0) Delete this. done and extended the previous hold by half a beat to make it feel less awkward, as well as shifting the final note into column 0.

[Claire (Easy)]
00:01:009 (1009|0) Move to 4th column. done, and moved the note before it to the 5th
00:05:638 (5638|1) Move to 1st column. done
01:22:952 (82952|1,83295|1) Move to 4th column. not done but moved 01:23:124 to 4th column instead
01:25:695 (85695|4,85867|3,86552|1,86895|0) Mirror this part (Swap 1st and 5th columns + Swap 2nd and 4th) done

[Sakura (Normal)]
00:57:409 (57409|0) Move to 3rd column. moved to 2nd column instead.
01:25:695 Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1125659 good idea, but done the mirror of that instead.

[Natsuki (Hard)]
00:10:267 (10267|1) Move to 1st column.
00:10:267 (10267|3) Move to 5th column. done to both
00:35:981 (35981|0) Move to either 3rd or 5th column. done in 3rd
00:38:724 (38724|4) Move to either 1st or 3rd column. done in 3rd
00:39:067 Add normal note in 1st or 3rd column. done in 1st
00:47:981 Add normal note in 1st column. done
00:49:695 Add normal note in 1st or 3rd column. done
01:14:724 Add normal note in 1st column. done
01:15:067 Add normal note in 5th column.not done - feels too disruptive
01:15:409 ^done
01:15:752 ^as 01:15:067

[Botan (Insane)]
01:21:581 Add two normal notes in both 1st and 5th columns. done, though with some minor reservations.
01:26:552 Add normal note in 1st column. ^

Hope this helps! Call me again for a BAT check once you've decided to accept/reject my mod (and finalize all changes of course) :p

Thanks a lot.

Okay, everything looks good here.

Here's your first

good luck xD

Yay a bubble!

Thanks.

Nice mapset! Here are some suggestions, you are free to reject them if you don't like

[General]
BG is 1365x768... It is preferred to fix it, 1 pixel off :p use this BG http://puu.sh/5F4vD.jpg

[Karin (Super Easy)]
OD and HP -1, imo since it's SUPER easy xD

00:54:838 (54838|1) - Move in 5
01:24:324 - There should be whistle and finish like in other diffs

[Claire (Easy)]
00:54:495 (54495|1) - Move in 4
01:03:409 - I would add a note in 3 with clap (for following drum)
01:14:381 - ^
01:18:152 (78152|2) - Add clap! You forgot to add here
01:24:324 (84324|2) - Let it end in 01:25:524 - and add whistle and finish

[Sakura (Normal)]
HP -1

00:02:381 (2381|1) - Move in 4

[Natsuki (Hard]
01:20:209 - Add whistle
01:24:324 - There should be whistle and finish like in other diff

[Botan (Insane)]
01:20:895 - Add whistle
01:21:238 - ^

Amazing mapset! Just some hitsounds are different in the diffs somewhere. Call me back when you will fix this

Roxas wrote:

Nice mapset! Here are some suggestions, you are free to reject them if you don't like

[General]
BG is 1365x768... It is preferred to fix it, 1 pixel off :p use this BG http://puu.sh/5F4vD.jpg odd - the background I had used was from a screenshot with my screen size set at 1366x768. Wonder what happened to that pixel. Anyway, done

[Karin (Super Easy)]
OD and HP -1, imo since it's SUPER easy xD had that before, but was told to change them. If it's fine, I'm happy to change back, so done.

00:54:838 (54838|1) - Move in 5 moved to 4 and previous note to 3. Feels better that way.
01:24:324 - There should be whistle and finish like in other diffs I knew there would be something I missed the hitsound for. Done of course

[Claire (Easy)]
00:54:495 (54495|1) - Move in 4 done
01:03:409 - I would add a note in 3 with clap (for following drum) no thanks. That comes in the next difficulty, which is similar enough as it is. In fact, if something wants to be added in this area then it's at 01:04:267, where I have added one. EDIT: removed it again.
01:14:381 - ^ ^
01:18:152 (78152|2) - Add clap! You forgot to add here another one? Thanks and well done for spotting it anyway
01:24:324 (84324|2) - Let it end in 01:25:524 - and add whistle and finish done

[Sakura (Normal)]
HP -1 done

00:02:381 (2381|1) - Move in 4 I had a reason why that was there but I can't remember what it was and don't think it was much of one anyway so moved

[Natsuki (Hard]
01:20:209 - Add whistle
01:24:324 - There should be whistle and finish like in other diff I did worse than I thought. Of course, both done

[Botan (Insane)]
01:20:895 - Add whistle It's already there, on the middle note.
01:21:238 - ^ done

Amazing mapset! Just some hitsounds are different in the diffs somewhere. Call me back when you will fix this

Thanks a lot

Everything looks fine for me

Ranked~

Congratulation!

Finally done.

First ranked beatmap set consisting of all 5 key maps. And, of course, my first ranked beatmap as well.

It was fun making it, though - otherwise I would never have done it. I hope people have fun playing it too.

And thanks to everyone who helped, too. Particularly indyinyou and xxbidiao, without whom this map would probably have never got anywhere.

Gratz !

congratulation

Congratulation

Take my babies for mapping a full 5K Set

kuuderes_shadow wrote:

Finally done.

First ranked beatmap set consisting of all 5 key maps. And, of course, my first ranked beatmap as well.

It was fun making it, though - otherwise I would never have done it. I hope people have fun playing it too.

And thanks to everyone who helped, too. Particularly indyinyou and xxbidiao, without whom this map would probably have never got anywhere.

Congrats man!