All of my hate to this map first break https://osu.ppy.sh/s/24782
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Well it's a 2 minute map so it's ok. But if it was FIVE minutes, I'd be saying "tablet map" because you almost explicitly require absolute positioning to maintain control. If you are a tablet player, having no breaks is challenging. If you are a mouse player, it's just downright fucking annoying and retarded.Aqo wrote:
breaks are the worst aspect of this game. they shouldn't exist. break = no gameplay = not fun
learn to reposition on sliders (or 1/1 notes)
Same here, for me it's the issue with playing mouse only. I take my hand off sometimes when I feel it's sweaty, but I feel like I can't get the same grip again.Triskelion91 wrote:
I frequently miss the first note after a break. I have no idea why.
That's why I just try not to let go of the mouse and click a bit during the break.
it's obvious isn't it, when break comes then you start paying attention to other things like accuracy score and other shit and then you loose concentration on gameTriskelion91 wrote:
I frequently miss the first note after a break. I have no idea why.
i have this problem sometimes too, you should just learn to pay attention only to cursor while break comes and stay concentrated on game
this, i wish there was no breaks and just pure gameplay but that won't happenAqo wrote:
breaks are the worst aspect of this game. they shouldn't exist. break = no gameplay = not fun
if a map is too hard for you, practice. that's all there is to it
i especially hate those long ass maps 5 minutes + with break times more than a minute but meh
Cannot describe this arrogance, seriously.Aqo wrote:
breaks are the worst aspect of this game. they shouldn't exist. break = no gameplay = not fun
What's arrogant about it?
There is a reason why breaks are neccessary/required for Beatmaps, especially for easier Levels. But I guess Aqo ignored this aspect - as always.
normally I'd agree with you (since this is exactly what aqo would do) but i'm like 99% sure it was sarcasmStefan wrote:
There is a reason why breaks are neccessary/required for Beatmaps, especially for easier Levels. But I guess Aqo ignored this aspect - as always.
You lose your grip over time and it's usually nice to have time to fix your hand/wrist/pen position, so it's kind of the same, the problem with some mouse users is they don't disable cursor acceleration which makes the sensitivity they use retarded, if you don't know how to configure your stuff it's not really the device's problem but yours.RaneFire wrote:
Well it's a 2 minute map so it's ok. But if it was FIVE minutes, I'd be saying "tablet map" because you almost explicitly require absolute positioning to maintain control. If you are a tablet player, having no breaks is challenging. If you are a mouse player, it's just downright fucking annoying and retarded.Aqo wrote:
breaks are the worst aspect of this game. they shouldn't exist. break = no gameplay = not fun
Using as an argument that "there is a reason why something is required" is possibly the most idiotic thing you could've said, since afaik it's not really required at all to add breaks on your map but "suggested". Easier beatmaps as far as I can remember were usually shorter than the harder difficulties, meaning you didn't need a break, and I agree that breaks are idiotic except for very short ones (less than 3 seconds) which are pretty much about being able to pause and scratch my nose or just alt+tab because I got a message from someone.Stefan wrote:
There is a reason why breaks are neccessary/required for Beatmaps, especially for easier Levels. But I guess Aqo ignored this aspect - as always.
I usually don't play maps with long breaks because they bore me really quickly, it's not fun to watch the screen while getting that "please wait" feeling since all you can do is wait till the circles start showing up again.
Make easy maps shorter, don't make 6 min long beatmaps with 1:30 min worth in pauses.
The reason Aqo ignores very easy difficulties is because unless you are mentally disabled, blind, have mobility problems, or are 3 years old, it shouldn't take that long to get out of the retarded-tier difficulties into something a little bit decent. You never balance a game towards the early game but you work on making it good at decent levels, since that's the point where players usually stay for years.
Spinners can suffice as breaks in a pinch: pause right when one comes up, and to resume drag the orange thing around instead of clicking and releasing.
As someone that uses mouse, I get really annoyed when maps go on for over 2 or 3 minutes with no breaks. I hate having to adjust myself midgame, especially if it's a jumpy map or a map with patterns that circle around the whole screen repeatedly. Makes playing uncomfortable, especially when nervous.
But, I don't like long breaks either. I find that it disrupts the flow and feels like you're starting a new song sometimes (especially if you have SS). I think maps over 2 minutes should generally have a break, even if the break is too short for a section-pass.
But, I don't like long breaks either. I find that it disrupts the flow and feels like you're starting a new song sometimes (especially if you have SS). I think maps over 2 minutes should generally have a break, even if the break is too short for a section-pass.
Off-Topic: Practice and you won't need to do that, either that or get used to re-adjusting while playing.
Tip: Play hard stuff and you will eventually notice how maps that required re-adjusting suddenly stop doing so.
Tip: Play hard stuff and you will eventually notice how maps that required re-adjusting suddenly stop doing so.
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Everyone keeps talking about break times and mouse re-positioning. Break times don't need to exist on insanes and the mouse re-positioning issue goes away with practice (at least in my experience).
My problem is with this http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256027&m=0 map in particular and my fear and it might become a trend to make maps with no slowdown (no break, no spinner, no 1/1 section, no long and easy slider) that last more than 1.5 minutes. It feels mentally taxing, though I seem to be the only one in that regard.
My problem is with this http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256027&m=0 map in particular and my fear and it might become a trend to make maps with no slowdown (no break, no spinner, no 1/1 section, no long and easy slider) that last more than 1.5 minutes. It feels mentally taxing, though I seem to be the only one in that regard.
I'm pretty good at re-adjusting myself while playing, but it's a big deal if I'm nervous on a map that just carries on and on and on. It's nice to have a little time to shake it off.Wishy wrote:
Off-Topic: Practice and you won't need to do that, either that or get used to re-adjusting while playing.
Tip: Play hard stuff and you will eventually notice how maps that required re-adjusting suddenly stop doing so.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/74586 pretty sure this is the right map? squares in CCW only?Wishy wrote:
Off-Topic: Practice and you won't need to do that, either that or get used to re-adjusting while playing.
Tip: Play hard stuff and you will eventually notice how maps that required re-adjusting suddenly stop doing so.
Yeah it goes away with practice, but this map is so ridiculously easy that drift is very annoying. It is more easily solved by high DPI.
Edit: Seems I only have drift problems on 400 DPI, even just a slight increase to 500 DPI solves it. Must be the way I move my hand :/NixXSkate wrote:
patterns that circle around the whole screen repeatedly.
I'm sure there's a more relevant example somewhere.
Mouse: G400v2 with LGS that I just installed today.
If you are nervous then you should improve to a point you don't get nervous. From what I can see in your profile you are pretty much a hard farmer, start playing actual hard stuff and when you go back to hards you will realize that you don't get nervous anymore because it doesn't even feel that you can miss at all.NixXSkate wrote:
I'm pretty good at re-adjusting myself while playing, but it's a big deal if I'm nervous on a map that just carries on and on and on. It's nice to have a little time to shake it off.
I usually just consider that if you get really nervous and have positioning problems at something is because you are not good enough to comfortably play it, if you do really good at something then there is no reason to get nervous.
i forgot that it's easy even with 4mod because it's [Hard]
oh wait a lot of hards are actually REALLY tough with DT+HD, and nixx has plenty of impressive scores.
oh wait a lot of hards are actually REALLY tough with DT+HD, and nixx has plenty of impressive scores.
It doesn't matter the difficulty of the song really. I get nervous playing any map that is over 3 minutes which is why I pretty much have no FCs on songs above that time, if I do, then I just got lucky.Wishy wrote:
If you are nervous then you should improve to a point you don't get nervous. From what I can see in your profile you are pretty much a hard farmer, start playing actual hard stuff and when you go back to hards you will realize that you don't get nervous anymore because it doesn't even feel that you can miss at all.NixXSkate wrote:
I'm pretty good at re-adjusting myself while playing, but it's a big deal if I'm nervous on a map that just carries on and on and on. It's nice to have a little time to shake it off.
I usually just consider that if you get really nervous and have positioning problems at something is because you are not good enough to comfortably play it, if you do really good at something then there is no reason to get nervous.
That's not true at all, if you're nervous you don't play as you normally do. Sometimes a short break can slap you back into your senses. This might just be a hard difficulty, but when it's long and your sightreading the whole second half of the song and it doesn't seem to end, you body doesn't really want to adjust it just wants it to end. PS- I actually rarely have problems with adjusting, it only really happens if a song feels like its dragging on and on and on.Wishy wrote:
If you are nervous then you should improve to a point you don't get nervous. From what I can see in your profile you are pretty much a hard farmer, start playing actual hard stuff and when you go back to hards you will realize that you don't get nervous anymore because it doesn't even feel that you can miss at all.NixXSkate wrote:
I'm pretty good at re-adjusting myself while playing, but it's a big deal if I'm nervous on a map that just carries on and on and on. It's nice to have a little time to shake it off.
I usually just consider that if you get really nervous and have positioning problems at something is because you are not good enough to comfortably play it, if you do really good at something then there is no reason to get nervous.
I actually am better at adjusting if I'm playing something really hard, because I'm probably not trying to SS it lol.
Da7shadow wrote:
The only time I have a problem with having no break is when my nose gets itchy while I'm really into it.
When you play something that's not extremely hard for you then there is no reason to get nervous, when you play a 8 min long map where you know you can't really miss a thing then you don't get nervous at all, then again if getting an FC there is challenging for you it's ok to get nervous.NixXSkate wrote:
That's not true at all, if you're nervous you don't play as you normally do. Sometimes a short break can slap you back into your senses. This might just be a hard difficulty, but when it's long and your sightreading the whole second half of the song and it doesn't seem to end, you body doesn't really want to adjust it just wants it to end. PS- I actually rarely have problems with adjusting, it only really happens if a song feels like its dragging on and on and on.
I actually am better at adjusting if I'm playing something really hard, because I'm probably not trying to SS it lol.
Breaks are suggested only in places where nothing interesting happens in music. Truth final word.
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My only issue with no breaks is mouse drifting. Occasionally (not that frequent anymore) my mouse will drift to the edge of the mouse-mat and aiming is pretty much impossible, a prime example for this is this map. Near the ending my mouse will be so out of position that it's very difficult to aim. In maps where spacing is very irregular to one side all of the time, mouse players will suffer.
Switching from 600 to 800 dpi helped a little.
Other than this, on maps with somewhat regular spacing, i prefer no breaks, cause nerves build up in them (especially if there's a break near the ending, like in Louis' Cyphre's Für Elise).
Switching from 600 to 800 dpi helped a little.
Other than this, on maps with somewhat regular spacing, i prefer no breaks, cause nerves build up in them (especially if there's a break near the ending, like in Louis' Cyphre's Für Elise).
Definetely what I do when playing with mouse.silmarilen wrote:
learn to reposition on sliders (or 1/1 notes)
Also my problem with no breaks is, I won't be as consistent as what I do in the opening/middle. Normally I will get more 100s, making my accuracy worse :/
Breaks to me is an essential part of a good map, and in my opinion all mappers should fit in some sort of break every ~90 sec mark depending of the speed (how fast the cursor needs to move around... not bpm)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/27809
Shit like this is stupid.
75-150 second sections are ideal. You shouldn't stray too far out of this range or it just gets tedious. None of the maps posted so far in the thread go much higher than those limits.
Shit like this is stupid.
75-150 second sections are ideal. You shouldn't stray too far out of this range or it just gets tedious. None of the maps posted so far in the thread go much higher than those limits.