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Nekomata Master feat. Hayashi Momoko - Rainbow after snow

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Damnae
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jeudi 14 novembre 2013 at 17:27:20

Artist: Nekomata Master feat. Hayashi Momoko
Title: Rainbow after snow
Source: beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro
Tags: crevice jubeat saucer nemis
BPM: 179
Filesize: 6746kb
Play Time: 01:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,12 stars, 72 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 326 notes)
  3. Nemis' Hard (4,88 stars, 271 notes)
  4. Normal (3,92 stars, 142 notes)
Download: Nekomata Master feat. Hayashi Momoko - Rainbow after snow
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hard by Nemis


map download


SGL storyboard source
var time_part1_start = 1085;
var time_spinner_start = 10302;
var time_spinner_end = 11140;
var time_first_object = 11811;
var time_part1_end = 24213;
var time_part2 = 25219;
var time_part2_voice_a = 42984;
var time_part2_voice_b = 43654;
var time_part3 = 46671;
var time_part4_start = 57397;
var time_part4_1 = 62760;
var time_part4_2 = 65107;
var time_part4_3 = 65442;
var time_part4_4 = 68794;
var time_part4_end = 69800;
var time_chorus_start = 70805;
var time_chorus_end = 92258;
var time_part5 = 94939;
var time_part6 = 102984;
var time_outro = 113710;
var time_end = 121755;
var time_true_end = 124436;
var time_scorescreen = 125777;

function make_title_glow(t0, t1) {
var time_title_start = t0;
var time_title_end = t1;
var time_title_a = time_title_start + (time_title_end - time_title_start) / 4.0;
var time_title_b = time_title_start + 3 * (time_title_end - time_title_start) / 4.0;

var deg_to_rad = 3.14 / 180;

var ls1 = new Sprite("ls.png", Pass, CentreLeft);
ls1.color(time_title_start, time_title_end, 17,254,176, 173,255,95);
ls1.additive(time_title_start, time_title_end);
ls1.fade(time_title_start, time_title_a, 0, 0.7);
ls1.fade(time_title_b, time_title_end, 0.7, 0);
ls1.move(time_title_start, time_title_end, 0, 142, 0 + 50, 142);
ls1.rotate(time_title_start, time_title_end, -10 * deg_to_rad, 5 * deg_to_rad);
ls1.scale(2, time_title_start, time_title_end, 1, 2);

var ls2 = new Sprite("ls.png", Pass, CentreRight);
ls2.color(time_title_start, time_title_end, 255,88,100, 255,94,55);
ls2.additive(time_title_start, time_title_end);
ls2.flipH(time_title_start, time_title_end);
ls2.flipV(time_title_start, time_title_end);
ls2.fade(time_title_start, time_title_a, 0, 1);
ls2.fade(time_title_b, time_title_end, 1, 0);
ls2.move(time_title_start, time_title_end, 640, 120, 640 - 50, 120);
ls2.rotate(time_title_start, time_title_end, -10 * deg_to_rad, 5 * deg_to_rad);
ls2.scale(2, time_title_start, time_title_end, 1, 2);
}

function make_glow(t0, duration) {
var lf = new Sprite("g.png", Foreground, Centre);

var lf_t0 = t0;
var lf_t1 = t0 + duration / 4.0;
var lf_t2 = t0 + 3 * duration / 4.0;
var lf_t3 = t0 + duration;

var screen_width = 640;
var screen_height = 480;

var offset = 100;

var lf_x = rand(offset, screen_width - offset);
var lf_y = rand(offset, screen_height - offset);

var lf_size = rand(60, 120) / 100.0;
var lf_opacity = rand(40, 70) / 100.0;

var deg_to_rad = 3.14 / 180;
var angle = rand(0, 360) * deg_to_rad;

lf.rotate(lf_t0, lf_t3, angle, angle);
lf.scale(lf_t0, lf_t3, lf_size, lf_size * 1.5);
lf.move(lf_t0, lf_t3, lf_x, lf_y, lf_x, lf_y);
lf.fade(1, lf_t0, lf_t1, 0, lf_opacity);
lf.fade(2, lf_t2, lf_t3, lf_opacity, 0);
lf.additive(lf_t0, lf_t3);

if (rand(0, 1) == 1) {
lf.flipH(lf_t0, lf_t3);
}

if (rand(0, 1) == 1) {
lf.flipV(lf_t0, lf_t3);
}

var color = rand(0, 4);
if (color == 0) {
lf.color(lf_t0, lf_t3, 17,254,176, 17,254,176);

} else if (color == 1) {
lf.color(lf_t0, lf_t3, 173,255,95, 173,255,95);

} else if (color == 2) {
lf.color(lf_t0, lf_t3, 255,88,100, 255,88,100);

} else if (color == 3) {
lf.color(lf_t0, lf_t3, 255,94,55, 255,94,55);
}
}

function make_snowflake(t0, duration, fall_speed, pop_time) {
var pop_delay = 1005; // 3 beats for this song

var pops = false;
if (pop_time > 0 && t0 + duration > pop_time) {
duration = pop_time - t0;
pops = true;
}

var lf_t0 = t0;
var lf_t1 = t0 + duration / 4.0;
var lf_t2 = t0 + 3 * duration / 4.0;
var lf_t3 = t0 + duration;

// they should never take more than one second to appear
if (lf_t1 - lf_t0 > 1000) {
lf_t1 = lf_t0 + 1000;
}

var screen_width = 640 * (1366 / 1024.0);
var screen_height = 480;
var x_offset = -((screen_width / 2) - (640 / 2));
var y_offset = - (lf_t1 - lf_t0) / 1000 * fall_speed;

var lf_x = rand(0, screen_width) + x_offset;
var lf_y = rand(0, screen_height - y_offset) + y_offset;

var lf_x_end = lf_x;
var lf_y_end = lf_y + fall_speed * duration / 1000.0;

var lf_size = rand(10, 100) / 100.0;
var lf_opacity = rand(20, 80) / 100.0;

var lf = new Sprite("star2.png", Foreground, Centre);

var abs_fall_speed = fall_speed;
if (abs_fall_speed < 0) {
abs_fall_speed = -abs_fall_speed;
}
var speed_scale_multiplier = abs_fall_speed / 200.0;
if (speed_scale_multiplier < 1) {
speed_scale_multiplier = 1;
}
var grow_factor = 1.5;

lf.scaleVec(lf_t0, lf_t3, lf_size, lf_size * speed_scale_multiplier, lf_size * grow_factor, lf_size * grow_factor * speed_scale_multiplier);
lf.move(lf_t0, lf_t3, lf_x, lf_y, lf_x_end, lf_y_end);
lf.fade(lf_t0, lf_t1, 0, lf_opacity);

if (pops) {
lf.scaleVec(pop_time, pop_time + pop_delay / 3 / 4, lf_size * grow_factor, lf_size * grow_factor * speed_scale_multiplier, lf_size * grow_factor, lf_size * grow_factor);
lf.fade(pop_time, pop_time + pop_delay / 3, lf_opacity, 1);
lf.fade(pop_time + pop_delay / 3, pop_time + pop_delay, 1, 0);
lf.additive(lf_t0, lf_t3 + pop_delay);

} else {
lf.fade(lf_t2, lf_t3, lf_opacity, 0);
lf.additive(lf_t0, lf_t3);
}
}

function make_snowflakes(t0, t1, lf_count, lf_duration, lf_minimal_duration, lf_speed, pop_time) {
for (var i = 0; i < lf_count; i++) {
var lf_t0 = rand(t0, t1 - lf_minimal_duration);
var lf_real_duration = lf_duration * rand(50, 100) / 100.0;

if (pop_time == 0 && lf_t0 + lf_duration > t1) {
lf_real_duration = t1 - lf_t0;
}

make_snowflake(lf_t0, lf_real_duration, lf_speed * rand(80, 120) / 100.0, pop_time);
}
}

function make_snowflakes_every(t0, t1, delta, pop_time) {
var lf_t0 = t0;
while (lf_t0 < t1) {
make_snowflake(lf_t0, delta * 8, 0, pop_time);
lf_t0 = lf_t0 + delta;
}
}

function make_glow_every(t0, t1, delta, max_glow_count) {
var lf_t0 = t0;
while (lf_t0 < t1) {
make_glow(lf_t0, delta * max_glow_count);
lf_t0 = lf_t0 + delta;
}
}

// --- BACKGROUND

var bg_width = 1024;
var widescreen_scale = 1366 / 1024.0;
var bg = new Sprite("bg.jpg", Background, Centre);
bg.scale(640.0 / bg_width * widescreen_scale);
bg.fade(0, time_spinner_end, 0.2, 0.2);
bg.fade(time_spinner_end, time_first_object, 0.2, 1);
bg.fade(time_first_object, time_outro, 1, 1);
bg.fade(time_outro, time_end, 1, 0.6);
bg.color(time_outro, time_end, 255, 255, 255, 221, 231, 255);
bg.fade(time_end, time_true_end, 0.6, 0.2);
bg.fade(time_true_end, time_scorescreen, 0.2, 0);

// --- TITLE

make_title_glow(time_part1_start, time_part1_start + 6000);
make_title_glow(time_part5, time_part6);

// --- SNOWFLAKES

var start_offset = 500;

// slow snowflake part
make_snowflakes(time_part1_start - start_offset, time_part1_end, 50, 10000, 1000, 30, 0);

// + spinner
make_snowflakes(time_spinner_start, time_spinner_end + 200, 400, 200, 100, 0, 0);

// fast snowflake part
make_snowflakes(time_part2, time_part3, 120, 5000, 1000, 100, 0);

// + slowdown
make_snowflakes(time_part2_voice_a, time_part2_voice_b + 400, 200, 500, 400, -140, 0);

// + faster snowflakes
make_snowflakes(time_part2_voice_b, time_part3 + 400, 500, 500, 400, -500, 0);

// denser slow snowflake part
make_snowflakes(time_part3 - start_offset, time_part4_start, 200, 10000, 1000, 30, 0);

// lots of fast snowflake part
make_snowflakes(time_part4_start - start_offset, time_part4_2, 200, 5000, 1000, 140, 0);
make_snowflakes(time_part4_1 - start_offset, time_part4_3, 100, 5000, 1000, -100, 0);
make_snowflakes(time_part4_2 - start_offset, time_part4_4, 100, 2000, 800, -200, 0);
make_snowflakes(time_part4_3 - start_offset, time_part4_end, 100, 700, 0, -350, time_part4_end);
make_snowflakes(time_part4_4 - start_offset, time_part4_end, 200, 500, 0, -500, time_part4_end);

// chorus
make_glow_every(time_chorus_start, time_chorus_end, 1005, 4);

// outro
make_snowflakes_every(time_outro, time_end, (time_end - time_outro) / (6 * 4 * 4), 0);

// end part
make_snowflakes(time_end, time_true_end, 500, 400, 300, 0, 0);
make_snowflakes(time_end, time_scorescreen, 100, 2000, 500, 0, 0);
Nemis
Awesome map, epic SB <3
ErunamoJAZZ
nice sb, but... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/945966 why this looks so? looks ugly u.u
Topic Starter
Damnae
Thanks!

The black border is a problem with the OpenGL renderer, try switching to DirectX if you can (in the options).
I made a post in the tech support: t/150828.

I hope it'll get fixed ><

edit: I changed my sprites a bit to remove the black border. It still doesn't look like it should on opengl but it's less ugly.
Rue
YGOkid8
*scratch scratch* i should probably get this mosquito bite treated soon...

overall a very solid map. i feel that the Easy and Normal diffs. really let the map down, but more details later.

also the song (especially the chorus) reminds me soo much of KOTOKO! no seriously, listen to Oboetete ii yo (it's on osu!), and try telling me i'm just a crazy poot :U

[Insane]
  1. I normally advise against high AR against low SV, but somehow yours seems to work. I dunno what sorcery this is, but it works. So yay to you :)
  2. Yeah good diff. and rather well constructed. I didn't like how you returned to the same points over and over in the chorus (e.g. 01:11:308 (2) - You returned here literally 5 times lol). Not a big deal, but I would definitely advise against it in the future :P
00:22:202 (5) - Not perfectly stacked with (3), intentional? Not sure if it is, just thought I'd point it out.
00:22:537 (1) - Not the prettiest slider, how about...... THIS!! (it has no hitsounds on it, so you'll have to put them on yourself :P i forgot, okay)


248,108,22537,6,0,B|207:81|126:119|183:145|102:184|62:157,1,210.000008010865
00:23:543 (2,1) - Okay NOW I know it's intentional lol. Anyway because of the 0.2x spacing, I don't think it looks very good. For the overlap effect, I think 0.5x looks a LOT better, and dare I say it plays better that way too. Right now, it just looks like it was meant to be stacked, but something screwed up along the way and now it isn't. Up to you of course, but I would highly recommend the 0.5x. Also applies to everywhere else you do this~
00:26:224 (4,1) - Not exactly sure why you didn't just shorten (4) to the red tick and add a beat where it originally ended. Plays a lot better, since right now it kinda feels like we're tripping over the rhythm @.@
00:35:107 (1,2,3,1,2) - You've been mapping pretty heavily to the vocals, so it feels pretty weird to suddenly not to either. I suggest deleting these 5 beats, then add 2 hitcircles spaced 1/1 apart, starting at that same spot. I think it feels and suits more that way.
01:17:174 (4,1) - Two sliders returning to the same area generally already looks pretty bleh, but adding that overlap, it's gone from bleh to blergh. I suggest moving (1) so that they don't overlap. Please? :>
01:30:917 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - All of these are generally in the left side area of the map. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the right side just looks so very empty. Since you've already got the copy & paste then rotate twice thing going at 01:30:917 (1,2), why not do the same afterwards? Move 01:31:922 (1,2) so that they're 180 degrees rotationally symmetrical, then just put the last (1) somewhere on the middle y axis.

Oh huh, song's over already? Whoa, was a lot shorter than I thought it'd be >.>

[Nemis]
  1. I like this diff. Reminds me a bit of own mapping style. Flow is good, jerky movements are fun too.
00:12:481 (3,4) - Surprised you didn't copy and paste these. Small difference, but I think it'd be better if you do (and copy (4) if you chose to copy)
00:15:498 (3) - The slider curve is soo minute that I didn't even know it had a point until I hovered over it! Would remove the point just for the heck of it.
00:18:515 (1,2,3) - The slider point at (1) literally does nothing. Seriously, delete it and nothing in the shape changes at all lol. Anyway, I think this little bit here would look and flow better if positioned like this:
00:26:224 (4,2) - I'd personally prefer it if either (4) or (2)'s curve was on the right side of the slider, mainly because in formations like this, two sliders close to each other like this with their curves facing the same way looks a bit weird. Or I could just be weird, but give it some thought.
00:30:917 (2) - Same thing with the sliderpoint... just keep it in mind from now on, I won't pick these out again :P
00:51:364 (2,3) - Space out (3) more? Has a bit of an unpleasant cramped look at the moment.
00:56:727 (3,4) - Same thing as earlier. Also copy (4) if choose to copy. And you know, apply to same things from now on, if they apply.
01:05:442 - 01:09:800 - Intensity in music builds up in this section, but I can't say the same for the map. Increased spacing of some kind here would've been really great. I would suggest remapping just this section a bit, but if you don't, it's not a big deal.

[Normal]
  1. Eh. The difficulty is a lot higher than it really should be, mainly due to unnecessary 1/2 rhythms. Not saying you can't use 1/2 but only to use them when appropriate, as per difficulty, not to mention it's 179BPM as well. Anyway, examples below:

00:11:811 (1,2) - I know that the (2) is mapped to that high note in the song (or I think it is anyway), but you could've simply just have (1) go over 2 white ticks and then put a hitcircle or slider where the (2) currently is. Same with the following (3,4).
00:14:828 (2,3,4) - 1/2s should already be used sparingly, but triples are please no :(. In this instance, having (2) again going over 2 white ticks then adding a 1/2 repeat slider at 00:15:833 would be equally as effective, while keeping difficulty relevant.
00:25:554 (2,3) - Not as bad, but again considering difficulty, I would still rather ignore the 1/2 rhythm in the song and just make the (2) go over 2 white ticks. I'm sure you can see a pattern emerging here.
00:32:593 (3,4,5) - Return slider if you must have that rhythm.

And so on. I think you've got the idea. :o
Best thing I can suggest is to remap the diff. with what I've said in mind, but you don't have to. It's not to the point of unrankable, but it does lower map quality, and you might find other BATs more unwilling to bubble/rank because of difficulty spread. If you do decide to remap... well, keep reading with what I have to say for Easy.

[Easy]
  1. Rhythm itself is actually quite good in this difficulty. It's the circle size and slider velocity I'm not too happy about, as well as other things I'll point out below.
  2. I would also highly suggest remapping Easy diff. If nothing, the 1.07 to 3.92 difficulty rating jump is too big. Yes, difficulty ratings aren't always the most accurate, but please: there's a 2.85 star difference between the two difficulties, not to mention E -> H. I have also already mentioned that I think your Normal is too hard anyway. Again, I wouldn't say entirely unrankable, but will make it harder to rank the map.
  3. I'm not exactly sure why Circle Size 2 was re-introduced (probably for the osu!stream mappers) but if not, then I assume it's so that Beginner difficulties could be made (below Easy). Regardless, since this diff. isn't exactly a "Beginner" diff, I would heavily advise against Circle Size 2, regardless of whether you decide to remap or not.
  4. If you do decide to remap both Normal and Easy, also change the SV - Normal to 1.0, Easy to 0.8. The reason is simple: There's a 0.2 difference in SV between Nemis and Insane, so by using consistent SV changes, it makes it easier to make a good difficulty spread. You should also don't have the problem of overlaps in Easy diff. (although the beats will be very close), so you might like to use 1.2x spacing for instance.
00:11:811 (1,2) - Overlaps should generally be avoided in Easy difficulties, even if you have to increase distance spacing a little bit. Not only can it confuse the player on rhythm, but it also doesn't look very pleasant on the eyes.
00:26:559 (2,1) - This type of overlap is acceptable though.
00:41:140 (1) - I know why you started the spinner where you did, but I still think it'd feel better on the following white tick. The reason is because it lacks any kind of emphasis where it starts now, and feels a bit weak and awkward. Regardless, I think the spinner is a bit too long and doesn't really fit starting that early anyway. If you want to have the long spinner, I would suggest starting it at 00:43:990 and finishing at 00:46:671 (you will have to delete the (1) though.
01:05:777 (1) - Looks pretty, but would much prefer it if you build up to the music. Would play a lot better that way.
01:14:828 (1) - Slider feels a bit out of place here, since in the previous beats, you've been bring out the rhythm in the music a bit. Would shorten by either 1 or 2 white ticks.
01:18:179 - Really feels like a beat should be here. There's not really a break in the vocals, and you've already got a small break afterwards.
01:20:861 - ...But I think the small break is 2 white ticks too long :) so I would advise mapping in white ticks 3 and 4.
01:25:554 (1) - Same as before.
01:28:906 - And as before (though maybe just make the (3) slider longer).
01:49:688 (1) - After bring out the 3 beats in 01:42:984 (1,2,3), this one feels a bit awkward.
And that's it from me. Sorry to end on such a sour note, but your Insane diff. really is quite well made (as well as guest Nemis)! At the very least, it's better to have problems in your easier diffs. than your harder ones, because they're easier to change or fix.

Anyway, I hope you'll consider my suggestions (especially for Normal and Easy) very seriously!
Nemis
Fixed all except 01:05:442 (1) - this part, it's okay for me. Really useful, thank you!
SPOILER
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: rainbowaftersnow.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 70135
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
StoryFireInFront: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 11811,22537,25219,35945,46671,65442,70805,81531,92258,102984,113710,121755,124436
DistanceSpacing: 1.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Rainbow after snow
TitleUnicode:Rainbow after snow
Artist:Nekomata Master feat. Hayashi Momoko
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master feat. 林ももこ
Creator:Damnae
Version:Nemis' Hard
Source:Beatmania IIDX
Tags:crevice tricoro jubeat saucer
BeatmapID:293738
BeatmapSetID:112399

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Combo2 : 173,255,95
Combo3 : 17,254,176
Combo4 : 255,88,100

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Nazalion
Can I GD Ctb Diff ..
becos i want GD this map XD
Topic Starter
Damnae
YGOkid8
[Insane]
  1. I normally advise against high AR against low SV, but somehow yours seems to work. I dunno what sorcery this is, but it works. So yay to you :)
  2. Yeah good diff. and rather well constructed. I didn't like how you returned to the same points over and over in the chorus (e.g. 01:11:308 (2) - You returned here literally 5 times lol). Not a big deal, but I would definitely advise against it in the future :P
00:22:202 (5) - Not perfectly stacked with (3), intentional? Not sure if it is, just thought I'd point it out. It doesn't change much but I guess there's no reason not to stack here.
00:22:537 (1) - Not the prettiest slider, how about...... THIS!! (it has no hitsounds on it, so you'll have to put them on yourself :P i forgot, okay) I prefer a less curvy slider here. I only changed it a bit to make it more symmetrical.

00:23:543 (2,1) - Okay NOW I know it's intentional lol. Anyway because of the 0.2x spacing, I don't think it looks very good. For the overlap effect, I think 0.5x looks a LOT better, and dare I say it plays better that way too. Right now, it just looks like it was meant to be stacked, but something screwed up along the way and now it isn't. Up to you of course, but I would highly recommend the 0.5x. Also applies to everywhere else you do this~ I'm not stacking it perfectly here because I want the new combo color to be visible. But also I want it to be close enough so that it looks somewhat "stacked".
00:26:224 (4,1) - Not exactly sure why you didn't just shorten (4) to the red tick and add a beat where it originally ended. Plays a lot better, since right now it kinda feels like we're tripping over the rhythm @.@ tried and liked it, changed =)
00:35:107 (1,2,3,1,2) - You've been mapping pretty heavily to the vocals, so it feels pretty weird to suddenly not to either. I suggest deleting these 5 beats, then add 2 hitcircles spaced 1/1 apart, starting at that same spot. I think it feels and suits more that way. changed it to follow the voice
01:17:174 (4,1) - Two sliders returning to the same area generally already looks pretty bleh, but adding that overlap, it's gone from bleh to blergh. I suggest moving (1) so that they don't overlap. Please? :> nope :< they are overlapping to help read the 1/4, so I don't like unstacking them
01:30:917 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - All of these are generally in the left side area of the map. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the right side just looks so very empty. Since you've already got the copy & paste then rotate twice thing going at 01:30:917 (1,2), why not do the same afterwards? Move 01:31:922 (1,2) so that they're 180 degrees rotationally symmetrical, then just put the last (1) somewhere on the middle y axis. right... remapped this part twice

Oh huh, song's over already? Whoa, was a lot shorter than I thought it'd be >.>

[Normal]
  1. Eh. The difficulty is a lot higher than it really should be, mainly due to unnecessary 1/2 rhythms. Not saying you can't use 1/2 but only to use them when appropriate, as per difficulty, not to mention it's 179BPM as well. Anyway, examples below:

00:11:811 (1,2) - I know that the (2) is mapped to that high note in the song (or I think it is anyway), but you could've simply just have (1) go over 2 white ticks and then put a hitcircle or slider where the (2) currently is. Same with the following (3,4).
00:14:828 (2,3,4) - 1/2s should already be used sparingly, but triples are please no :(. In this instance, having (2) again going over 2 white ticks then adding a 1/2 repeat slider at 00:15:833 would be equally as effective, while keeping difficulty relevant.
00:25:554 (2,3) - Not as bad, but again considering difficulty, I would still rather ignore the 1/2 rhythm in the song and just make the (2) go over 2 white ticks. I'm sure you can see a pattern emerging here.
00:32:593 (3,4,5) - Return slider if you must have that rhythm.

And so on. I think you've got the idea. :o
Best thing I can suggest is to remap the diff. with what I've said in mind, but you don't have to. It's not to the point of unrankable, but it does lower map quality, and you might find other BATs more unwilling to bubble/rank because of difficulty spread. If you do decide to remap... well, keep reading with what I have to say for Easy.

After asking some beginners to test the map, I believe there's no need to make changes to this diff based on difficulty, as they played it without problem.

[Easy]
  1. Rhythm itself is actually quite good in this difficulty. It's the circle size and slider velocity I'm not too happy about, as well as other things I'll point out below.
  2. I would also highly suggest remapping Easy diff. If nothing, the 1.07 to 3.92 difficulty rating jump is too big. Yes, difficulty ratings aren't always the most accurate, but please: there's a 2.85 star difference between the two difficulties, not to mention E -> H. I have also already mentioned that I think your Normal is too hard anyway. Again, I wouldn't say entirely unrankable, but will make it harder to rank the map.
  3. I'm not exactly sure why Circle Size 2 was re-introduced (probably for the osu!stream mappers) but if not, then I assume it's so that Beginner difficulties could be made (below Easy). Regardless, since this diff. isn't exactly a "Beginner" diff, I would heavily advise against Circle Size 2, regardless of whether you decide to remap or not.
  4. If you do decide to remap both Normal and Easy, also change the SV - Normal to 1.0, Easy to 0.8. The reason is simple: There's a 0.2 difference in SV between Nemis and Insane, so by using consistent SV changes, it makes it easier to make a good difficulty spread. You should also don't have the problem of overlaps in Easy diff. (although the beats will be very close), so you might like to use 1.2x spacing for instance.
00:11:811 (1,2) - Overlaps should generally be avoided in Easy difficulties, even if you have to increase distance spacing a little bit. Not only can it confuse the player on rhythm, but it also doesn't look very pleasant on the eyes.
00:26:559 (2,1) - This type of overlap is acceptable though.
00:41:140 (1) - I know why you started the spinner where you did, but I still think it'd feel better on the following white tick. The reason is because it lacks any kind of emphasis where it starts now, and feels a bit weak and awkward. Regardless, I think the spinner is a bit too long and doesn't really fit starting that early anyway. If you want to have the long spinner, I would suggest starting it at 00:43:990 and finishing at 00:46:671 (you will have to delete the (1) though.
01:05:777 (1) - Looks pretty, but would much prefer it if you build up to the music. Would play a lot better that way.
01:14:828 (1) - Slider feels a bit out of place here, since in the previous beats, you've been bring out the rhythm in the music a bit. Would shorten by either 1 or 2 white ticks.
01:18:179 - Really feels like a beat should be here. There's not really a break in the vocals, and you've already got a small break afterwards.
01:20:861 - ...But I think the small break is 2 white ticks too long :) so I would advise mapping in white ticks 3 and 4.
01:25:554 (1) - Same as before.
01:28:906 - And as before (though maybe just make the (3) slider longer).
01:49:688 (1) - After bring out the 3 beats in 01:42:984 (1,2,3), this one feels a bit awkward.
Thanks!


Nazalion wrote:

Can I GD Ctb Diff ..
becos i want GD this map XD
Sorry, I don't want to add more diffs to this.
bmin11
Well, we are kind of a competitor, but Natteke asked me to mod, so here it is.

[Insane]
00:13:152 (1) - Don't you think it would be better to map it like 00:14:492 (1,2) - here? Atleast they should be the same as far as I'm concern.
00:13:654 (2,3,4,5) - The melody you are following is really weak, so I'm worried that the player may not even get it and I hope you are aware of it.
00:15:498 (4) - The flow from 1 -> 2 and 3 is kind of awkward imo maybe fix it like this? http://puu.sh/4BYjT.jpg
00:19:185 (3,4,5) - Again, the melody is quite weak, so the player may not understand the slow down after that jump.
00:23:543 (2) - Add whistle at the start.
00:30:414 (1) - This should start at 00:30:582 (1) - here instead
00:33:934 (4) - The jump should have happened here, 00:34:101 (1) - not there
00:35:274 (1) - How about keeping this part almost silent since that seems to be the composers' choice as well.
00:45:163 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The part before this was okay since I can tell what those are following, but I can't quite tell what I'm playing for this part.
00:57:062 (4) - This should be two notes instead of a single slider.
01:00:079 (1) - This slider should be 1/1 long just like 00:58:738 (1) - this.
01:00:749 (3,4,5,6) - I don't think a straight line is good enough to represent this part. Try to make the player to differentiate each notes by creating a movement like this for example http://puu.sh/4DG7M.jpg (this is only an example).
01:09:129 (3,4) - This should be spaced farther like 01:08:626 (3) - this.
01:09:800 (6) - Remove Finish and add clap instead.
01:10:805 (1) - Add finish
01:12:984 (3) - This slider should start 01:13:152 (3) - here
01:13:990 (1) - This slider should start 01:14:157 (1) - here
01:14:828 (1,2) - This should be either 3 notes + slider or just 4 notes. I don't encourage covering one of her line with a slider end (it's too weak).
01:16:085 (x) - you could add a note here.
01:18:347 (5) - This should be two notes, not a single slider.
01:27:397 (2) - This slider should start 01:27:565 (2) - here.
01:29:576 (1) - I feel like you really should map it with 1/2 for this part.
01:52:369 (1) - This should be two notes.
01:53:710 (1) - How about a Normal Finish so it doesn't sound too... loud I guess.

[Nemis]
00:24:213 (2) - Just leaving as a single note is an option (it is fine as it is)
00:29:744 (2) - Slider should start 00:29:911 (2) - here
00:34:604 (1) - How about moving this note up, so it's easier to recognize? http://puu.sh/4DGTl.jpg
00:35:106 (4) - Unnecessary note. I feel like it only distracts from the vocal and just ending it at (3) is a lot cleaner, just like 00:35:610 (5) - this.
00:38:626 (1) - How about making this into 1/2 slider - 1/1 slider, and a note after like this? http://puu.sh/4DHaW.jpg (It is fine as it is though).
00:41:643 (2,3) - Make sure you do the same (or atleast similar) for this as well if you fixed the one above.
00:44:157 (5) - Maybe add a note here?
01:26:224 (3,4) - nice
01:45:666 (1) - Remove the Normal Hit at the slider end.
01:50:693 (3) - Remove the Clap at the slider start.
Well done.


I don't feel I'm qualified to mod [Normal] and [Easy] due to how much troubles I had mapping mine.

Good luck with the map.
Nemis
Fixed some, thank you!
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Leader
'sup

[Easy]
  1. 00:41:140 (1) - Why don't you make it end 1/1 later? There's a finish sound there.
  2. 01:10:805 (1) - I'd rather a curved slider here, looks better. Here's an example:
[Nemis' Hard]
  1. 00:10:302 (1) - Perché non lo fai con sampleset soft e con un clap come l'Insane? È meglio, secondo me (anche se toglierei lo spinner come ho detto nell'Insane)
  2. 01:09:632 (1,1) - Toglierei le NC, non stanno molto bene imo
  3. 01:17:509 (1,2) - Non mi è piaciuto questo break di 1/1, secondo me non ci sta bene :(
[Insane]
  1. 00:10:302 (1) - I find this spinner kinda useless, it doesn't follow anything in my opinion. I'd go for a 1/1 slider from 00:11:140 - instead or simply removing it.
  2. 01:18:850 (1,2,3,4) - -20% volume? They sounds a bit too loud to me.
  3. 01:32:174 (3,4) - What about a slider instead of circles? Fits better with finish sound.
Normal was fine, great map~
Natteke desu
Hirrou
Some suggestions here
yea, you can ignore this
[Insane]
00:17:509 (2) - mhm, it's place for whistle?
01:18:850 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - hmm, maybe you should add some soft finishes here? something like :
SPOILER
01:19:520 (3) - head 01:20:191 (1) - 01:20:861 (1) - 01:21:531 (1) -
01:23:543 (3) - uhmm, sounds a bit loud for me, dunno why

[Nemis' Hard]
00:17:174 (1) - normalhit on tail?
00:27:230 (2) - maybe something like this?
If you ok with this ^
00:27:230 (2) - add here normalhit (on tail) and clap here : 00:27:565 (3) -
bout placement :
00:34:604 (1) - 00:34:939 (3) - awesome place for kiai fountain

An awesome map, mates. Sorry for this "mod" \:D/
P A N
oh er aw... nice map XD

[Insane]

00:27:230 (3) - move to 404|100 for symmetry?
01:08:291 (1,2) - I think ctrl+g is more playable.
01:20:023 (4) - normal-whistle on tail and 01:20:693 (2) - add normal-whistle instead of clap?
01:21:364 (2) - I think normal-whistle here not fit.
01:47:341 (4) - 1 grid right for balance spacing.

[Nemis]

00:35:274 (4) - I think make it stack with 3 is more readable, because the note that almost stack of yours is little stream after slider like 00:34:604, but this not. so I think stack is better.
01:05:442 (1) - I think this should move 1 grid right, to make it's tail stack with the previous (3) and for the hexagon symmetry. do this with 01:07:118 too :X
01:52:034 (3) - what about move to 488|72?
nice hard :3

[Normal]

01:02:760 (1,3,4) - move to 260|28 , 324|116 and 156|56.

[Easy]

01:29:241 (4,1) - I think stack in Easy is doesn't good, it will confuse beginner. what about change it into slider?

thats all, good map :3
Nemis
Fixed a few things, thank you!
SPOILER
osu file format v12

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Title:Rainbow after snow
TitleUnicode:Rainbow after snow
Artist:Nekomata Master feat. Hayashi Momoko
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master feat. 林ももこ
Creator:Damnae
Version:Nemis' Hard
Source:beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro
Tags:crevice jubeat saucer
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136,240,105163,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,196,105330,2,0,P|208:160|208:144,1,45.0000017166138,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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424,8,107174,5,0,1:0:0:0:
372,72,107341,2,0,P|336:76|320:76,1,45.0000017166138,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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68,172,108347,6,0,P|64:208|76:280,2,90.0000034332277,0|0|8,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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444,204,111196,1,0,0:0:0:0:
504,148,111364,1,2,1:2:0:0:
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352,100,111699,5,10,0:0:0:0:
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428,124,112202,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,112,112705,1,2,1:2:0:0:
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Nickelony
Mod 4 mod here!

General:
- Add better or louder sounds!

Easy:
It's a bit too easy and boring, I recommend you
CS - 3

Normal:
00:11:811 (1) - don't go so far over the grid!
00:38:626 (1) - ^
01:24:213 (1) - ^
01:01:420 (4) - For me is this not a really good position.

Hard:
AR - 7
BTW: This map it a bit too hard... It's more like insane
astelios
Damnae this map in insane is awesome, and feels like a map of you <3 :chu: :chu:
U can add harder lvls for ur next maps :3
Why 2 months waiting? S:
Edit: yes, u have another stalker lol
Irreversible
Oh my gosh.. this storyboard is just so.. fascinating.. I can't even place collab names I AM LEARNING IT OKAY

Please take 2 stars for this nice SB >/<
Topic Starter
Damnae

Irreversible wrote:

Oh my gosh.. this storyboard is just so.. fascinating.. I can't even place collab names I AM LEARNING IT OKAY

Please take 2 stars for this nice SB >/<
Thanks :D
Sonnyc
Easy:

-- Uhh,, fine to keep but imo Tick 2 felt too much for an easy orz.

Couldn't find actually things to mod, but 5/2 sliders like 00:25:219 (1) felt weird in the rhythm. Ignoring the clap after 1/2 didn't felt nice for me. Just an opinion~

Normal:

00:34:772 - How about adding a hitsound in the tick?
01:45:666 (1) - 1 grid right and down.

Nemis' Hard:

00:16:001 (1,3) - Delete NC at (1) will be better since your clap goes with 00:15:498 (3). Rather add NC in 00:16:503 (3).
01:53:040 (3) - NC?

Insane:

00:33:934 (4,1) - Hmm.. Actually the beat starts from 00:33:934 (4), and the combo starting there will feel better with the song. Consider re-patterning.
01:08:124 (3,1) - Start combo from (3)?
01:53:040 (3,5) - ctrl+G will be better in playing.

Why did you inserted Normal-whistle in the kiai in your diffs? It felt very very odd.
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