I'm willing to lynch fartownik. Why? along with Rantai, they're the only ones with odd role names, which makes me think they're fake.pieguy1372 wrote:
thoughts?
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strong-willed just means someone is immune to all redirections
e.g. regular cop targets x -> bus driver swaps x and y -> cop investigates y
e.g. strong-willed cop targets x -> bus driver swaps x and y -> cop investigates x anyway
MUP (Multiple User Personality) is a role that performs an ability randomly without control over what the ability is. so if someone got MUP with a cop/doc/vig/roleblock, they'd target a person at night, who would randomly be roleblocked/vigged/protected/investigated. note abilities generally aren't x-shot like with a JOAT so they could cop 4 times if they got the right rolls
I'm fine with a fartownik lynch too, cause his claim was weird as hell. if it was just MUP it would be fine, but apparently he claimed a MUP that could only use each ability once. this just implies he's a JOAT with randomized abilities. for a 15 man game, a JOAT with only 3 abilities in the first place seems really low, even without being randomized. (Jinxy made a JOAT fakeclaim with 4 abilities in my game with only 12 people and he succeeded...)
e.g. regular cop targets x -> bus driver swaps x and y -> cop investigates y
e.g. strong-willed cop targets x -> bus driver swaps x and y -> cop investigates x anyway
MUP (Multiple User Personality) is a role that performs an ability randomly without control over what the ability is. so if someone got MUP with a cop/doc/vig/roleblock, they'd target a person at night, who would randomly be roleblocked/vigged/protected/investigated. note abilities generally aren't x-shot like with a JOAT so they could cop 4 times if they got the right rolls
I'm fine with a fartownik lynch too, cause his claim was weird as hell. if it was just MUP it would be fine, but apparently he claimed a MUP that could only use each ability once. this just implies he's a JOAT with randomized abilities. for a 15 man game, a JOAT with only 3 abilities in the first place seems really low, even without being randomized. (Jinxy made a JOAT fakeclaim with 4 abilities in my game with only 12 people and he succeeded...)
btw I don't blame you for thinking MUP is weird, assuming you were referring to that, cause afaik no one's ever used a MUP on this forum. the only reason I knew what it was is cause I was reading xylbot rolelist and saw it on there LOL
though I agree the "Handicapped" is really sketchy cause of what I mentioned before. seems likely he saw the people with weird names "Hurried Jester", "Speedy Reviver" and tried to come up with one for himself.
though I agree the "Handicapped" is really sketchy cause of what I mentioned before. seems likely he saw the people with weird names "Hurried Jester", "Speedy Reviver" and tried to come up with one for himself.
1. pieguy <- firefighter
2. DakeDekaane <- 1-shot auto reviver
3. BRBP <- nexus
4. Royston <- motivator
5. fartownik <- handicapped MUP
6. rEdo <- dayvig
7. Rantai <- strong-willed deprogrammer
mafia dayvig or mafia auto reviver is stupid cause they fk with LyLo which isn't fair. if either dayvig or reviver keep silent till what would usually be LyLo, it's impossible for town to win, when they have a reasonable expectation of being able to win in LyLo. and given Lilac is town, I bet Rantai is town cause he got a false role too. (and mafia deprogrammer is what? cult can't recruit mafia anyway)
so, by PoE I get BRBP x Royston x fartownik. conveniently two of those claims were really weird and Royston's ability hasn't been confirmed yet at all. so we lynch those three in some arbitrary order, unless a night result changes something
2. DakeDekaane <- 1-shot auto reviver
3. BRBP <- nexus
4. Royston <- motivator
5. fartownik <- handicapped MUP
6. rEdo <- dayvig
7. Rantai <- strong-willed deprogrammer
mafia dayvig or mafia auto reviver is stupid cause they fk with LyLo which isn't fair. if either dayvig or reviver keep silent till what would usually be LyLo, it's impossible for town to win, when they have a reasonable expectation of being able to win in LyLo. and given Lilac is town, I bet Rantai is town cause he got a false role too. (and mafia deprogrammer is what? cult can't recruit mafia anyway)
so, by PoE I get BRBP x Royston x fartownik. conveniently two of those claims were really weird and Royston's ability hasn't been confirmed yet at all. so we lynch those three in some arbitrary order, unless a night result changes something
well either there's two scum or you're wrong on at least one of those assumptions. 
haha, I wouldn't put anything past the mod. Especially since in the touhou game there was this whole thing about how a dayvig couldn't possibly be scum, I can see this dayvig being made scum just to screw with us. Plus it's always possible that these roles have more conditions associated with them that people have chosen not to revealpieguy wrote:
mafia dayvig or mafia auto reviver is stupid cause they fk with LyLo which isn't fair.
Ehhh that nexus claim.
Actually I think I might have an idea, tell me if there are any glaring faults in it.
We lynch Royston and get fart to shoot BRBP. As far as I know, nexus' don't redirect kills (otherwise they're essentially bulletproof which is retarded) and this'll show if fart is lying or not. If BRBP survives, we lynch fart tomorrow.
If BRBP dies tonight then one of two things happened. We get one kill, scum + fart shot him/scum no shot or fart is scum. Both ways that's good for us because mafia would have to waste a shot playing the wifom game.
We get 2 kills and we're still ly-lo with a confirmed town (3-4 --> 1-3)
This goes under the assumption that Royston is scum (I'm currently leaning that because it seems strange that he hasn't died and cannot prove his motivation, I think I mentioned this in passing a few pages back). The rest is up in the air. Really though it could only really be fart + BRBP or redo + DD after that. I come to this conclusion because DD and redo have cross "confirmed" each other (so if one is one alignment, the other is too) leaving just fart and BRBP. I believe pieguy is town.
Thoughts?
Actually I think I might have an idea, tell me if there are any glaring faults in it.
We lynch Royston and get fart to shoot BRBP. As far as I know, nexus' don't redirect kills (otherwise they're essentially bulletproof which is retarded) and this'll show if fart is lying or not. If BRBP survives, we lynch fart tomorrow.
If BRBP dies tonight then one of two things happened. We get one kill, scum + fart shot him/scum no shot or fart is scum. Both ways that's good for us because mafia would have to waste a shot playing the wifom game.
We get 2 kills and we're still ly-lo with a confirmed town (3-4 --> 1-3)
This goes under the assumption that Royston is scum (I'm currently leaning that because it seems strange that he hasn't died and cannot prove his motivation, I think I mentioned this in passing a few pages back). The rest is up in the air. Really though it could only really be fart + BRBP or redo + DD after that. I come to this conclusion because DD and redo have cross "confirmed" each other (so if one is one alignment, the other is too) leaving just fart and BRBP. I believe pieguy is town.
Thoughts?
I can see this dayvig being made scum just to screw with us.seems like trademark LS
I say we lynch you last. that way we have a chance at getting rid of the roleblocker so someone can confirm you
the only way the above ^ doesn't work is if you're town and we somehow save the roleblocker for last instead. or if you're roleblocker
I know I'm not wrong about Rantai though. the whole point of LS putting these roles in here relies on the fact we don't know it's false to begin with. mafia deprogrammer is outright impossible from the get go
Also pieguy, being an LS game I wouldn't put it past him to give mafia a reviver/dayvig.
And you can flip what DD said; those 2 are suspicious because they seem to be the only 2 working roles that I can tell at the moment. Everyone else either has a fake or broken role. I don't personally believe that though, I'm more towards the whole LS is a dick idea.
And you can flip what DD said; those 2 are suspicious because they seem to be the only 2 working roles that I can tell at the moment. Everyone else either has a fake or broken role. I don't personally believe that though, I'm more towards the whole LS is a dick idea.
Was that a ninja fest right there?
>_>
>_>
Actually to amend, as I just realised.
If fart shoots BRBP and kills him and we get another kill then we're actually probably not going to be 1-3 because I find it highly unlikely one is towna nd the other mafia.
Ugh, back to the drawing board for me.
If fart shoots BRBP and kills him and we get another kill then we're actually probably not going to be 1-3 because I find it highly unlikely one is towna nd the other mafia.
Ugh, back to the drawing board for me.
We lynch Royston and get fart to shoot BRBP. As far as I know, nexus' don't redirect kills (otherwise they're essentially bulletproof which is retarded) and this'll show if fart is lying or not. If BRBP survives, we lynch fart tomorrow.I thought about something like this. but I don't think it'll work, in part due to the fact we won't know what they flip. I haven't found exactly what the problem is but something in my head is screaming "this is wrong" 0.0
There's no guarantee that farto shoots. Or even look here (. . )
That's true, we're not going to know who flips what today. But we can't really be sure who is what at the moment, making me hesitant on lynching fart/brbp/dd or redo.pieguy1372 wrote:
I thought about something like this. but I don't think it'll work, in part due to the fact we won't know what they flip. I haven't found exactly what the problem is but something in my head is screaming "this is wrong" 0.0
I don't know really, it seems like a big gamble no matter which choice we make.
So what's the plan?
We really only have 3/4 choices, if my assumptions are correct.
Lynch Royston, gain information (well, as much as we can get I guess) to make a informed decision the next day.
Lynch fart or brbp and hope we don't lose. If we get scum, the other is highly likely to be scum (poe due to redo/dd)
Lynch dd or redo, same as above.
We could lynch pieguy but I believe that to be the riskiest move.
We really only have 3/4 choices, if my assumptions are correct.
Lynch Royston, gain information (well, as much as we can get I guess) to make a informed decision the next day.
Lynch fart or brbp and hope we don't lose. If we get scum, the other is highly likely to be scum (poe due to redo/dd)
Lynch dd or redo, same as above.
We could lynch pieguy but I believe that to be the riskiest move.
I don't think I've given my reads for a while. A lot of it is gut feeling
Town
- Royston
Leaning Town
- Rantai: The role claim makes sense and I've been getting a town read from his posts
- pieguy: same as above
- BRBP: I'm getting a pretty strong town read from his posts overall, but in particular his last post makes me think he's town. I was willing to lynch earlier due to inactivity, but not now
???
- rEdo: Uncomfortable here. The role suggests town but the D1 sheeping to fart still irks me
Leaning scum
- DakeDekaane: Always had a scummy feeling from his posts, though that could be a result of him being on my case a lot. His role, which has proven to be truthful, is what makes me hesitate here
- fartownik: Questionable play, really quite different to the touhou game we played as masons. Role claim pretty tenuous. Inactivity doesn't help his case
- We lynch you (I don't support this)
- No lynch (I don't see how this would help in any way)
My unofficial vote would have to go on fart.
Town
- Royston
Leaning Town
- Rantai: The role claim makes sense and I've been getting a town read from his posts
- pieguy: same as above
- BRBP: I'm getting a pretty strong town read from his posts overall, but in particular his last post makes me think he's town. I was willing to lynch earlier due to inactivity, but not now
???
- rEdo: Uncomfortable here. The role suggests town but the D1 sheeping to fart still irks me
Leaning scum
- DakeDekaane: Always had a scummy feeling from his posts, though that could be a result of him being on my case a lot. His role, which has proven to be truthful, is what makes me hesitate here
- fartownik: Questionable play, really quite different to the touhou game we played as masons. Role claim pretty tenuous. Inactivity doesn't help his case
Well there's two other optionsRantai wrote:
We really only have 3/4 choices, if my assumptions are correct.
- We lynch you (I don't support this)
- No lynch (I don't see how this would help in any way)
My unofficial vote would have to go on fart.
Well, naturally, I wouldn't suggest lynching myself.
But I guess that's another possibility.
But I guess that's another possibility.
@BRBP:
I'm fine with lynching either BRBP or fartownik, preferably fartownik cause his claim srsly makes no sense. I can compromise with a Royston lynch cause I think he's mafia atm, but I prefer to save him for last just in case he's seriously motivator
inb4 mafia motivator
@Rantai: keep in mind it could also be fartownik x DakeDekaane or fartownik x rEdo (or either of those with BRBP instead of fartownik). in the first case, rEdo would be a regular townie trying to shoot mafia and he hit mafia 1-shot self reviver. in the other case rEdo would just be a mafia dayvig, though I don't see why he can't just save it for LyLo instead in that case. them "cross-confirming" each other doesn't necessarily imply it's either both of them or no one
It's funny how you first say that I'm town, and when several people go inactive (and I think I even requested a replacement), you ignore all earlier reads and just attack them.why didn't you mention this before? when you roleclaimed I was attacking inactives then and even since yesterday
I'm fine with lynching either BRBP or fartownik, preferably fartownik cause his claim srsly makes no sense. I can compromise with a Royston lynch cause I think he's mafia atm, but I prefer to save him for last just in case he's seriously motivator
inb4 mafia motivator
@Rantai: keep in mind it could also be fartownik x DakeDekaane or fartownik x rEdo (or either of those with BRBP instead of fartownik). in the first case, rEdo would be a regular townie trying to shoot mafia and he hit mafia 1-shot self reviver. in the other case rEdo would just be a mafia dayvig, though I don't see why he can't just save it for LyLo instead in that case. them "cross-confirming" each other doesn't necessarily imply it's either both of them or no one
I guess so but I feel it's more likely to be both or none, just how with it played out.
But I do concede your point there.
But I do concede your point there.
so who the hell are we lynching
I say we lynch fartownik. those in favor, say "(9)"
I say we lynch fartownik. those in favor, say "(9)"
I agree, but I'd like to wait before voting to see what others have to say
Vote:fartownik
That's what I have to say.
That's what I have to say.
Well, no ninja hammer yet so at the very least we know it's one of them.
Actually you know what? Screw it.
Vote: fart - if you're scum DD, gg.
Vote: fart - if you're scum DD, gg.
vote: fartownik
in all honesity I lost the interest in this game. pieguy is probably scum, and he's leading all the lynches, and people apparently are fairly okay with following them...BRBP wrote:
And where is rEdo, he hasn't posted in 8 days?
but hey, DD is town, I'm town, Royston is town, while the rest... duh. I'm really highly curious of Rantai, though. oh well.
Vote: fartownik
if DD actually flips scum, I'll laugh and cry Q_Q
Yeh, pieguy is scum, but neither Rantai or Royston would want to lynch him atm, tho I doubt both are scum together.
but I'm not scumDakeDekaane wrote:
Yeh, pieguy is scum, but neither Rantai or Royston would want to lynch him atm, tho I doubt both are scum together.
inb4 there's no scum at all and that's why none of the town PMs had a wincon
nononononononopieguy1372 wrote:
inb4 there's no scum at all and that's why none of the town PMs had a wincon
please no
If that happens I'm ragequitting life
the fact that no mafia have popped up going "we've won" at this point is a pretty good sign for now tho. but nothing we can do about it now
the fact that no mafia have popped up going "we've won" at this point is a pretty good sign for now tho. but nothing we can do about it now
Yeah, no thank you.
Then again, LS... >_________>
Then again, LS... >_________>
LEAP OF FAITH.
o.o
Wait what?
Prod: LS
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Don't mind me I'm just wrestling with RL over here.
farto - ??? - Missing D5
kookookook - Town FBI Agent
It is now night 5, deadline is whenever I can get to the computer again.
Nightchat is no longer enabled.
farto - ??? - Missing D5
kookookook - Town FBI Agent
It is now night 5, deadline is whenever I can get to the computer again.
Nightchat is no longer enabled.
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DakeDake - ??? - Vanished N5
Fartownik - Mafia Advanced Framer + Gunsmith
It is now Day 6. Deadline is roughly a week from now.
With 5 Alive, it's 3 to lynch.
Fartownik - Mafia Advanced Framer + Gunsmith
It is now Day 6. Deadline is roughly a week from now.
With 5 Alive, it's 3 to lynch.