Lots of em actually, there's like 1 or 2 of em ranked and many (many) unranked. *cough* unlimited spark *cough*
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[added] [osu!mania] Unranked LN mod
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The main issue I can see with this is that 7 keys at the same time are unrankable due to ghosting and x-key rollover issues. I doubt that peppy will implement a mod that completely disregards this rule in its very nature, even if it's an unranked mod.
That being said, I'd love to have this feature. Can someone maybe script a small program that creates reverse diffs for maps?
That being said, I'd love to have this feature. Can someone maybe script a small program that creates reverse diffs for maps?
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Yeah and lots of 4k players don't play anything higher since their keyboard don't allow more than 3-4 keys at once, yet the rule wasn't pushed that far. That issue is mostly rhetorical, anyone who was willing to spend the time required to reach this level shouldn't be against the idea of throwing down 10$-20$ for a keyboard with nkro. If they for some reason they can't, then they understand their limitations and won't try to push their problems onto others. Most old ps/2 keyboard are cheap, got no input lag since the signal doesn't go through the usb drivers and are nkro. The limitations or bugs mentioned earlier are mostly due the usb interface, no need to buy anything expensive...
Goes without saying that I'm 100% against anything between the lines of "mappers are not allowed to do this because of this and that". It's like saying an artist isn't allowed to use the color green because some people might be colour blind. Anyways, this is a whole different issue.
But on this point, this rule is only a ranking criteria. There's no rule about the unranked songs on the servers needing to have less than 7 simultaneous keys. I'm pretty sure the same logic can be applied to this mod, since it's also unranked. Also, these patterns can easily be made without 7 simultaneous keys so these patterns can still end up being ranked, and they did.
So, having a way to train these is still something greatly helpful and I don't see this causing any sort of contradiction.
Goes without saying that I'm 100% against anything between the lines of "mappers are not allowed to do this because of this and that". It's like saying an artist isn't allowed to use the color green because some people might be colour blind. Anyways, this is a whole different issue.
But on this point, this rule is only a ranking criteria. There's no rule about the unranked songs on the servers needing to have less than 7 simultaneous keys. I'm pretty sure the same logic can be applied to this mod, since it's also unranked. Also, these patterns can easily be made without 7 simultaneous keys so these patterns can still end up being ranked, and they did.
So, having a way to train these is still something greatly helpful and I don't see this causing any sort of contradiction.
I see no harm in this. Support.
Just like the official LN chart from the official O2Jam song ; Phase 1 by _spam charter. 
Example video :
Support. ~
Example video :
Support. ~
I would really like songs that have LN notes to be ranked.
Electro Fantasy HD was the first song to feature LN patterns, though very simple at most. complicated LN's started to appear on End of Fight. just some additional infoishimaru94 wrote:
Just like the official LN chart from the official O2Jam song ; Phase 1 by _spam charter.
Example video :
Support. ~
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Yeah, as the community gets better, the community-made maps will get harder, and introduce new innovative patterns, just like these ones. But the more the best keeps moving further, the more the game becomes intimidating and seemingly impossible to new players. I think intruding certain mods like these to help players improve on stuff they can't do well is a step in the right directory for osu!mania.
I'd like to bump this because I still think this is definitely worth considering adding.
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Bobbias wrote:
I'd like to bump this because I still think this is definitely worth considering adding.
wow Bites, I thought you didn't like LN that much. @_@
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Haha maybe he likes the idea of having an easier way to learn them ^^
/me secretly wishes those stars were for his idea T.T
Aaah, funny, I was thinking about that for some time already. Have some stars.
Topic Starter
bump
Not planning on letting this be forgotten just yet
Not planning on letting this be forgotten just yet
Yes, it would be nice to see some feedback. Next time I see woc online I'll ask about my layers suggestion and this.
No plan to implement such mode recently, you can easily get this kind of maps with converter.
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However I don't think this would be implemented before 7key-at-the-same-time rule would be wastelanded.
Peppy would think this mode not as a mod that can be played by everyone
However I don't think this would be implemented before 7key-at-the-same-time rule would be wastelanded.
Peppy would think this mode not as a mod that can be played by everyone
I support it. 16times
I am a o2jam style - mapper and I wanna see a lot of ranked LN songs.
also, "7 keys at same timing -> unrank" rules are.... must be remove imo
PS/2 "nkey revolver" or "7Ks at once" keyboards are only 8 dollars.
also in USB connection, use S+D+F+Space+>+?+Rshift can input 7ks at once.
I am a o2jam style - mapper and I wanna see a lot of ranked LN songs.
also, "7 keys at same timing -> unrank" rules are.... must be remove imo
PS/2 "nkey revolver" or "7Ks at once" keyboards are only 8 dollars.
also in USB connection, use S+D+F+Space+>+?+Rshift can input 7ks at once.
We can't get LN versions of every map with the converter. There are way less full LN maps than normal ones, so even if we found all full LN maps, there are many maps we can't play as LN versions.woc2006 wrote:
you can easily get this kind of maps with converter.
The reason we request this is because 1) finding LN versions to convert is hard, and 2) many maps do not have an LN version.
There are very few easy full LN maps to practice. This mod would make every map, including every easy map, an option to practice full LNs.
*Toss stars*
Gud idea. Support.
ANd yeah, converter is fine but it requires messing around in your map files, creating another diffs etc... this would be good to have all the diff available without worrying about deleting stuff later on etc...
Gud idea. Support.
ANd yeah, converter is fine but it requires messing around in your map files, creating another diffs etc... this would be good to have all the diff available without worrying about deleting stuff later on etc...
I support this.
It's better to learn this kind of thing when you're just starting, like me. lol
~bumping ancient thread~
It's better to learn this kind of thing when you're just starting, like me. lol
~bumping ancient thread~
I'd support this, if I had anymore stars left...
Still, this is a pretty good idea honestly. If you know me well, you know that I love LN's in 4K.
I wonder how this will turn out -w-
Still, this is a pretty good idea honestly. If you know me well, you know that I love LN's in 4K.
I wonder how this will turn out -w-
The weirdest idea I've ever seen, considering that people just hate those noodle patterns
Maybe because people don't have an effective way to practice them?Transformau5 wrote:
The weirdest idea I've ever seen, considering that people just hate those noodle patterns
I think this is actually a great idea.
And i love noodles
No, mostly because they suck a fuck and are out of the beat whatsoever.[DaYan] wrote:
Maybe because people don't have an effective way to practice them?Transformau5 wrote:
The weirdest idea I've ever seen, considering that people just hate those noodle patterns
I think this is actually a great idea.
And i love noodles
I support. I need more practice out of these.
I have an early version of this mod working already. It also supports limiting the simultaneous keypresses to 6 (or any number) with a reasonable algorithm to choose the best column to end when an over-the-limit one needs to start. I might try to finish it at some point.
I made a video of what I hacked together in a night. I've added a lot of features since then, and I have a few more planned before it's done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p3PF6Nls_Q
I made a video of what I hacked together in a night. I've added a lot of features since then, and I have a few more planned before it's done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p3PF6Nls_Q
Just because Blaizer has something going doesn't mean it will be a thing if we wait. Reviving this.
Still waiting. C:
I've been thinking about ghosting with this mod while still appealing to players who have N rollover, and I think allowing to set LN intensity is the best way moving forwards. This will determine if the LN's begin and end at the same time or not and how many there can be at a time.
Acid-san
Gonna mark this one as resolved now that's it's been implemented in lazer. Stable is feature locked as far as mods are concerned so there's no chance of this getting backported.