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How do mouse users handle spins?

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tuurts
tuurts
Hello chewy, I understand your problem as I play with the same style (wrist resting on the mousepad and moving only my hand) And I never had problems spinning. I just spin big circles and it seems to work the best for me. :) If I start thinking about the spin i end up tensing my hand and slowing down alot 8-)
darkmiz
407 posts
Joined August 2011
darkmiz
Apply a little lift on your mouse when you spin, it reduces friction and allows you to spin faster.
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
I am using the same style. Although I am not the best spinner (~380-410) I'd say tensing up your arm and keeping your wrist loose helps.
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
dont move the mouse with your fingers, switch to moving it with your whole arm, everything will become easier then
Coro
2,394 posts
Joined September 2010
Coro
I actually draw tiny circles right on top of the center of the spinner, that way I don't have to lift my hand or move very much. =)
chewy_old
5 posts
Joined January 2013
Topic Starter
chewy_old
Thank you guys for the advice, I worked on my technique a bit! Lifting my wrist was a bit too foreign for me so I tried to wiggle my hand where I'm moving the wrist callous in tiny circles (gross!). I kept my hand relaxed and lightly pushed/tensed down onto the desk with the arm. I got faster spins from the vibrations coming from my arm and I could still keep up with the beat after the spin since my fingers and hand were not locked up. Needs more practice though.
Aquamarine
222 posts
Joined February 2011
Aquamarine
Out of subject but I was spinning a constant long 380 spins/min on my mouse; no glitch. I was spinning semi-large if I remember correctly.
strikeR
57 posts
Joined January 2013
strikeR

silmarilen wrote:

dont move the mouse with your fingers, switch to moving it with your whole arm, everything will become easier then
Anhedonia
60 posts
Joined December 2012
Anhedonia
and disable mouse acceleration/precision in windows or spinning in small movements is pretty much impossible
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
I rotate my mouse in circles
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
I hold my mouse using palm grip. I put my wrist on the mousepad and use that to anchor my mouse in place then rotate quickly in a counter clockwise motion (like I'm drawing an "o").

I can spin ~370 RPM this way (drops down to 250 for long spinners), but if I use 6400 cpi rather than 800 cpi, I can spin up to 450 rpm for longer. You can see this in my replay on http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34546?m=0. Turning off mouse acceleration made me spin MUCH slower because I have to pay attention to where my mouse is on the screen.

Jordan wrote:

I rotate my mouse in circles
puu.sh/Fao
Eni
1,437 posts
Joined May 2013
Eni
I use a small mouse (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/w ... mouse-m325) and my sensitivity is really high.

Because it's so small, only my fingers can fit on it. xD The lower part of my palm usually rests on the table. (I don't use a mouse pad)

I spin mid-center and get ~370-400 as my average max per game.
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan

ziin wrote:

I hold my mouse using palm grip. I put my wrist on the mousepad and use that to anchor my mouse in place then rotate quickly in a counter clockwise motion (like I'm drawing an "o").

I can spin ~370 RPM this way (drops down to 250 for long spinners), but if I use 6400 cpi rather than 800 cpi, I can spin up to 450 rpm for longer. You can see this in my replay on http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34546?m=0. Turning off mouse acceleration made me spin MUCH slower because I have to pay attention to where my mouse is on the screen.

Jordan wrote:

I rotate my mouse in circles
puu.sh/Fao
that puush could not be found
ct_warrior
29 posts
Joined August 2012
ct_warrior
I would suggest contemplating hard on whether you should switch to using arm movements or not. I used my mouse the same way you did until last year and decided to switch. I had to completely relearn mousing with my non-dominant arm and readjust a ton of habits, but it's definitely worth the trouble imo.
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin

Jordan wrote:

that puush could not be found
you're supposed to remember it
Rokk
133 posts
Joined September 2012
Rokk
Make sure you have completely eliminated mouse acceleration, first of all.

Second, spin with your whole arm, not just your hand.
Rio-
3,353 posts
Joined March 2013
Rio-
Just Spin as close to the center of the circle as possible

silmarilen wrote:

dont move the mouse with your fingers, switch to moving it with your whole arm, everything will become easier then
But I'm A Fingertip-Grip Type? I can't do that easily...
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,936 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral
i honestly migrated the tablet pen spinning technique (very close, small twitchy spins) to my mouse play and found it was ideal for the way i held my mouse, since I grasp it in a claw grip and keep my wrist largely stationary like you do
Yuzeyun
7,622 posts
Joined September 2010
Yuzeyun
my pinky "locks" the mouse when i reach the center of the spinner and I move my arm. not the best way to do honestly since it happens in normal play. i can reach around 450 when i end up on the right position. once hit 460
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
For me it's all about your elbow position. I actually spin with my whole arm using my elbow as the anchor point, since it's naturally round (kinda). You don't need to apply any extra pressure on your mouse or anything, you just need to consistently draw circles and have a strong shoulder which would provide the power for the spin.
This works even better on very long spinners too. On average I spin about 440, but it does go up to 470 if I have a good day.
Obviously you need a chair which has those rest things where you can place your elbows. :p
chewy_old
5 posts
Joined January 2013
Topic Starter
chewy_old

lolcubes wrote:

On average I spin about 440, but it does go up to 470 if I have a good day.
You... you got a Dyson motor installed somewhere in your arm?!

But anyway, it looks like everyone uses their own style! I've tried all of your guys' suggestions, even the arm/elbow rotation. Found out that my mouse isn't fit to handle something like that basically sucks. I also have no armrests on my chair. I decided to take off my favorite no-spin mod and replay everything I could. Relaxed my arm a lot and now I can spin at 250 rpm with my fingers only when I know I have beats after the spin to jump to or higher at 420 rpm with my entire arm when I have nothing to worry about. The low spin keeps my hands from tiring at all while the fast spin lets me squeeze a few more points into my score. For my difficulty, its working perfectly.

Thank you guys/gals for all of the advice!
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