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winber1
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winber1

Rejection

  1. 00:10:851 (2) - Turn into a kickslider? It matches the drums more that way. I mean something like http://puu.sh/47D9t.jpg
  2. 00:15:951 (1) - New combo seems useless. There is no SV change and doesn't seem like there is anything big happening in the music.
  3. 00:24:501 (6) - I'd start the new combo here and remove the next combo.
  4. 00:24:876 (3) - Remove note and re-space the other two notes. This triplet has always felt a little "unfitting" to me.
  5. 00:34:776 (1) - This should be on the purple tick, not the blue one. Did you forget to put this back when you re-snapped notes or something? o3o
  6. 00:39:551 (10,11) - Feels better switched around like this http://puu.sh/47DHG.jpg (I know you want to map the snare sound at 00:39:651 - probably, so you could also consider doing this http://puu.sh/47DKW.jpg ) Currently, I feel that the slider is too long and plays "off" from the music.
  7. 00:41:351 (6,7,8) - http://puu.sh/47DXo.jpg ? to give more variety and not put in extra notes.
  8. 00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this has always seemed so overdone imo... but since you are the mapper you can choose to keep if you want. Technically, since even the first time I played this, I played it correctly and in subsequent tries I've SS'd this numerous times, it's playable, but in terms of "fitting" I am a little hesitant to agree with that. Here's one other possible idea http://puu.sh/47EgO.jpg -> http://puu.sh/47Ehu.jpg -> http://puu.sh/47EhX.jpg
  9. 00:51:276 - I'm actually really liking to add a note here. COnsider doing that?
  10. 00:53:901 (9) - I think putting this on top of combo 6 ( 00:53:301 (6) - ) works better. I don't think you need a jump between 00:53:751 (8,9) - , but the jump between 00:53:901 (9,10) - makes sense and is still there if you apply this.
  11. 01:02:451 (3,4,5,6) - Always has played a little awkward for me because the emphasized beats are not where the jump is. The jumps sounds like it should be between 01:02:301 (2,3) - and between 01:02:901 (6,7) - . Perhaps you might want to think of some rearrangement of this pattern to fit that?
  12. 01:18:576 (1) - silence the end of the spinner?
  13. 01:22:101 (2) - Well i read this wrong like 3 times before I started to remember the actualy rhythm.
  14. 01:24:051 (5,1) - there should be a bigger jump between these two notes imo. http://puu.sh/47EKS.jpg or something like that? It also plays better imo.

Insane

  1. 00:11:076 - add note here? D:
  2. 00:13:251 (1) - snapping should be on 1/6
  3. 00:32:751 (1) - I'd remove the new combo as there is no SV change or emphasized note here.
  4. 00:34:776 (1) - purple ticks plz ._.
  5. 00:35:651 (1) - remove combo.
  6. 00:38:451 (3) - Easier to read and fits better like this imo http://puu.sh/47F8X.jpg
  7. 00:38:951 (5,6) - Consider turning this into a slider?
  8. 00:40:551 (3) - better if you removed the repeat and added a note at 00:41:051 - imo. Having the end of that repeat slider end at 00:40:951 - is kinda awkward when nothing is playing there ._.
  9. 00:44:151 (2) - I would remove this repeat and add a note at 00:44:451 - since it's a main beat and it follows your pattern.
  10. 00:51:201 (1) - Perhaps turn into a slider? http://puu.sh/47Fkx.jpg
  11. 00:55:251 (1) - remove combo...?
  12. 00:57:201 (1) - I'd remove this combo and add it to the next note. Then move this closer to combo 5 and add a jump between 00:57:201 (1,2) - . Maybe like http://puu.sh/47FoY.jpg ?
  13. 00:59:001 (1) - I would remove this combo too tbh. It just feels weird since it's just 1 combo long lol
  14. 01:13:551 (4,1) - Man this is the most deceiving spacing everrrrrr ahhhhhhhh. A possibility it to make 01:13:551 (4) - into a 1/2 tick slider... but that might sound weird. Or u can try putting 01:13:851 (1,2,3,4) - really far away lol
  15. 01:17:151 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Why not slowly increase the spacing to follow the music?
  16. 01:18:576 (1) - Silence spinner ends sounds better to me

RLC is a child that needs help

  1. 00:07:401 - imo you should map these spaces. It's actually really awkward to play for the first few times because the previous notes were all so flowing and consistent, and then suddenly you decide to add these spaces. After like two times, it feels more normal because i heard it like so many times. But the combination of the beginning patterns and this just don't mesh well imo. Also this is a difficulty in between insane and Hard, so you might as well just make it a little harder to fulfill it's duty better.
  2. 00:13:251 (1) - you should remove 1 repeat and add a note at 00:13:851 - If you don't it just feels awkward imo
  3. 00:20:901 - Imo you should add a note here to follow vocals
  4. 00:22:101 (1) - I don't think the new combo is necessary since it's still the same musical phrase
  5. 00:27:201 (1) - ^
  6. 00:29:301 (1) - ^
  7. 00:31:701 (1) - ^
  8. 00:32:451 (1) - same as the first suggestion
  9. 00:34:851 (3) - uhhh, use soft hitsounds or something? THis is a little too noisy. Also imo, you should map out 00:35:451 - the empty space is kinda weird to listen to.
  10. 00:46:551 (2,3) - try this? http://puu.sh/47MmL.jpg (well actually you might want to consider changing the triplet into a repeat slider, meh too lazy to reupload)
  11. 00:55:251 (3,4) - Would work better imo if you changed combo 3 into a repeat slider and added a note at 00:55:701 -
  12. 01:23:601 - add note
I feel like in general you could do something more than just space literally everything evenly. Add some jumps in kiai or something...? D: idk man. Seems a little too restricted sometimes. And it's much easier than the Insane. I don't have much to say on this, but sometimes I felt like you could do just a little more than you have. Maybe even add more hitcircles instead of spamming sliders everywhere. idk

Hard

  1. 00:03:051 - I think adding a note it better. http://puu.sh/47Mtj.jpg
  2. 00:12:501 (2) - end slider at 00:12:801 - this might be on purpose, and i know what you are doing if it is, but it just doesn't make sense in this context lol
  3. 00:24:351 (3) - http://puu.sh/47MAn.jpg
  4. 00:30:351 (7) - not 100% the meaning of this, but you're better off doing something like this http://puu.sh/47MEF.jpg
  5. 00:35:451 - add a slider here that ends at 00:35:751 - and remove 00:35:751 (1) - it's awkward to not map the main beat like this...
  6. 00:37:701 (1,2) - space closer together otherwise the spacing will be confusing.
  7. 00:57:801 (2,3) - imo these two notes will work better as a slider since the vocals is singing a held note.
  8. 01:02:751 (4,5) - maybe change into a slider and a circle. FIts the vocals slightly more here. http://puu.sh/47MVb.jpg
  9. 01:13:551 - I'd actually add a note here. Makes it easier to read and feels better to me

Normal

  1. 00:13:851 - Just do something like this... 1 measure rest here is weird http://puu.sh/47Nep.jpg or something else. I don't think you should leave this part unmapped
  2. 00:21:351 (2,3) - follow vocals more? one possible idea http://puu.sh/47N8y.jpg
  3. 00:31:551 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/47NaO.jpg try that
  4. 00:33:201 (1) - You should really unstack this imo, otherwise it makes it hard to read for less experienced players.
  5. 00:47:751 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - what's up with the smaller spacing? I don't think it's necessary. If anything, At least 00:49:701 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be spaced with the original distance snapping imo.
  6. 00:51:501 (5) - this should be a repeat slider imo... http://puu.sh/47Nlw.jpg
  7. 00:57:651 (1,2) - I'd rather you do something like http://puu.sh/47NqJ.jpg
  8. 01:00:051 (3,1) - Stacks like these I'm just meh about. I still feel like you should try to avoid most stacks in the easier difficulties, and espeically ones like these.
  9. 01:03:351 (3,1) - I'd rahter something like this http://puu.sh/47Nvx.jpg I'm just trying to simplify the rhytm. Having all of these different timed rests and beats is extremely difficlt to read for beginners.
  10. 01:13:551 (1,2,1,1) - I don't know what just happened to the spacing here.. but you really need to keep it consistent and sensible you might want to consider ending the slider ( 01:13:551 (1) - ) at 01:14:301 - and remove the existing note.
  11. 01:22:400 (1,1) - Still shouldn't be allowed in the easier diffs. THere are much better alternatives imo than this
Rhythm feels a little too complex here, but it's not completely unreadable or anything... Just feeling a little hesitant about having this for a normal.

Easy

  1. 00:15:051 (1) - This slider is way too short for an Easy diff. EIther chang eit into a slider or start the spinner earlier.
  2. 00:35:451 - Still an avid believer that all diffs by the same mapper should have the same parts mapped :< unless you have a special reason not to do so, which I don't see here. And no, don't give me the excuse that the rhythm is too hard :<
  3. 00:44:901 (1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2) - okay, kinda gonna be hard to read for less experienced players. YOu might have to just make the slider end land on the main beat, or use longer sliders or something.
  4. 01:01:701 - okay you definitely should not leave this as a break...
  5. 01:21:051 (1,1) - COnsider turning this into a slider
Jenny
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Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Jenny
winba pls

winber1 wrote:

Rejection

  1. 00:10:851 (2) - Turn into a kickslider? It matches the drums more that way. I mean something like http://puu.sh/47D9t.jpg - that's ugly... did it better o3o
  2. 00:15:951 (1) - New combo seems useless. There is no SV change and doesn't seem like there is anything big happening in the music. - yaya
  3. 00:24:501 (6) - I'd start the new combo here and remove the next combo. - neh, the next NC is put on the guitar part which really kicks in on the white tick here
  4. 00:24:876 (3) - Remove note and re-space the other two notes. This triplet has always felt a little "unfitting" to me. - iunno, to me, it really contributes to the build-up, as it ends in a clapsound and so, that sounded like that'd be the best way to accentuate it :I
  5. 00:34:776 (1) - This should be on the purple tick, not the blue one. Did you forget to put this back when you re-snapped notes or something? o3o - 00:34:751 (1) - you're talking about that note, right? .-. that's on the purple tick already, 1/3 before 2
  6. 00:39:551 (10,11) - Feels better switched around like this http://puu.sh/47DHG.jpg (I know you want to map the snare sound at 00:39:651 - probably, so you could also consider doing this http://puu.sh/47DKW.jpg ) Currently, I feel that the slider is too long and plays "off" from the music. - oki
  7. 00:41:351 (6,7,8) - http://puu.sh/47DXo.jpg ? to give more variety and not put in extra notes. - yus, why not, changed
  8. 00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this has always seemed so overdone imo... but since you are the mapper you can choose to keep if you want. Technically, since even the first time I played this, I played it correctly and in subsequent tries I've SS'd this numerous times, it's playable, but in terms of "fitting" I am a little hesitant to agree with that. Here's one other possible idea http://puu.sh/47EgO.jpg -> http://puu.sh/47Ehu.jpg -> http://puu.sh/47EhX.jpg - I gave this another try; consult me on that IRC? .-.
  9. 00:51:276 - I'm actually really liking to add a note here. COnsider doing that? - ney, that's overmapped and really not my taste :I
  10. 00:53:901 (9) - I think putting this on top of combo 6 ( 00:53:301 (6) - ) works better. I don't think you need a jump between 00:53:751 (8,9) - , but the jump between 00:53:901 (9,10) - makes sense and is still there if you apply this. - yussa, makes sense, did do
  11. 01:02:451 (3,4,5,6) - Always has played a little awkward for me because the emphasized beats are not where the jump is. The jumps sounds like it should be between 01:02:301 (2,3) - and between 01:02:901 (6,7) - . Perhaps you might want to think of some rearrangement of this pattern to fit that? - yup, put a bit of work into that
  12. 01:18:576 (1) - silence the end of the spinner? - did do
  13. 01:22:101 (2) - Well i read this wrong like 3 times before I started to remember the actualy rhythm. - i wanna keep this, that's an important part right there ya
  14. 01:24:051 (5,1) - there should be a bigger jump between these two notes imo. http://puu.sh/47EKS.jpg or something like that? It also plays better imo. - did do something here

Insane

  1. 00:11:076 - add note here? D: - nou! (this isn't meant to be streamish in terms of hitsounding; i think putting it like this puts better highlights for how to play this diff, as it really is significantly easier than Rejection)
  2. 00:13:251 (1) - snapping should be on 1/6 - give me a timestamp because really, I only hear this being 1/4 and starting on white
  3. 00:32:751 (1) - I'd remove the new combo as there is no SV change or emphasized note here. - it's pairs of 3 hits each, so i'd rather keep it
  4. 00:34:776 (1) - purple ticks plz ._. - I still do not understand; listening at 25% doesn't change my mind either :/
  5. 00:35:651 (1) - remove combo. - bad happy30 putting NCs where they don't belong!!
  6. 00:38:451 (3) - Easier to read and fits better like this imo http://puu.sh/47F8X.jpg - I think it's fine as-is here, didn't see anyone misreading this either
  7. 00:38:951 (5,6) - Consider turning this into a slider? - did something, not sure whether this suits what you thought of, but I think it fits well .-.
  8. 00:40:551 (3) - better if you removed the repeat and added a note at 00:41:051 - imo. Having the end of that repeat slider end at 00:40:951 - is kinda awkward when nothing is playing there ._. - it's called reverse arrow, but did that
  9. 00:44:151 (2) - I would remove this repeat and add a note at 00:44:451 - since it's a main beat and it follows your pattern. - ja
  10. 00:51:201 (1) - Perhaps turn into a slider? http://puu.sh/47Fkx.jpg - i don't think this suits the song well here; I'm rather seing this "pause of action" as to prepare for the upcoming jumppattern
  11. 00:55:251 (1) - remove combo...? - OR SO YOU SAY (that's a yes)
  12. 00:57:201 (1) - I'd remove this combo and add it to the next note. Then move this closer to combo 5 and add a jump between 00:57:201 (1,2) - . Maybe like http://puu.sh/47FoY.jpg ? - neh, that's not a very nice jump there; did it "my way", as they say
  13. 00:59:001 (1) - I would remove this combo too tbh. It just feels weird since it's just 1 combo long lol - them accidential combo-takeovers from highest diff :<<
  14. 01:13:551 (4,1) - Man this is the most deceiving spacing everrrrrr ahhhhhhhh. A possibility it to make 01:13:551 (4) - into a 1/2 tick slider... but that might sound weird. Or u can try putting 01:13:851 (1,2,3,4) - really far away lol - I believe that's because you played Rejection for like 200 times by now ;v didn't see anyone get this wrong up to now
  15. 01:17:151 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Why not slowly increase the spacing to follow the music? - yaya, good idea, did do
  16. 01:18:576 (1) - Silence spinner ends sounds better to me - did do aswell

Hard

  1. 00:03:051 - I think adding a note it better. http://puu.sh/47Mtj.jpg - did do
  2. 00:12:501 (2) - end slider at 00:12:801 - this might be on purpose, and i know what you are doing if it is, but it just doesn't make sense in this context lol - that's what you call editor making stupid things with beatsnaps
  3. 00:24:351 (3) - http://puu.sh/47MAn.jpg - i'm sticking to drums here
  4. 00:30:351 (7) - not 100% the meaning of this, but you're better off doing something like this http://puu.sh/47MEF.jpg - that's what you call editor making stupid things with beatsnaps
  5. 00:35:451 - add a slider here that ends at 00:35:751 - and remove 00:35:751 (1) - it's awkward to not map the main beat like this... - did do smth, but not a slider, as this is more stop-go mapped than in the higher diffs
  6. 00:37:701 (1,2) - space closer together otherwise the spacing will be confusing. - did do
  7. 00:57:801 (2,3) - imo these two notes will work better as a slider since the vocals is singing a held note. - i like it more as two circles for this diff, as it puts more emphasis on exactly these points (and a double hit just feels better, going into 4)
  8. 01:02:751 (4,5) - maybe change into a slider and a circle. FIts the vocals slightly more here. http://puu.sh/47MVb.jpg - ja.
  9. 01:13:551 - I'd actually add a note here. Makes it easier to read and feels better to me - sounds good so why not

Normal

  1. 00:13:851 - Just do something like this... 1 measure rest here is weird http://puu.sh/47Nep.jpg or something else. I don't think you should leave this part unmapped - made it a long slider and added a circle at 00:14:451 (3) -
  2. 00:21:351 (2,3) - follow vocals more? one possible idea http://puu.sh/47N8y.jpg - i'm going with the steady drumbeat for this, as the vocals are a bit too... well 'abrupt' for a low diff, so to say
  3. 00:31:551 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/47NaO.jpg try that - did something like that o3o
  4. 00:33:201 (1) - You should really unstack this imo, otherwise it makes it hard to read for less experienced players. - ja.
  5. 00:47:751 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - what's up with the smaller spacing? I don't think it's necessary. If anything, At least 00:49:701 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be spaced with the original distance snapping imo. - well, these sounds are quite packed and that's where there are packed 1/4 in the high diffs, so that's why; adjusted latter ones tho
  6. 00:51:501 (5) - this should be a repeat slider imo... http://puu.sh/47Nlw.jpg - okay
  7. 00:57:651 (1,2) - I'd rather you do something like http://puu.sh/47NqJ.jpg - ya
  8. 01:00:051 (3,1) - Stacks like these I'm just meh about. I still feel like you should try to avoid most stacks in the easier difficulties, and espeically ones like these. - hope you're satisfied with how it is now
  9. 01:03:351 (3,1) - I'd rahter something like this http://puu.sh/47Nvx.jpg I'm just trying to simplify the rhytm. Having all of these different timed rests and beats is extremely difficlt to read for beginners. - okay
  10. 01:13:551 (1,2,1,1) - I don't know what just happened to the spacing here.. but you really need to keep it consistent and sensible you might want to consider ending the slider ( 01:13:551 (1) - ) at 01:14:301 - and remove the existing note. - fixed that at previous mods but couldn't update due to BSS issues :<
  11. 01:22:400 (1,1) - Still shouldn't be allowed in the easier diffs. THere are much better alternatives imo than this - i hope i found a way to please you
Rhythm feels a little too complex here, but it's not completely unreadable or anything... Just feeling a little hesitant about having this for a normal.

Easy

  1. 00:15:051 (1) - This slider is way too short for an Easy diff. EIther chang eit into a slider or start the spinner earlier. - *spinner; hue, let's see whether this works out
  2. 00:35:451 - Still an avid believer that all diffs by the same mapper should have the same parts mapped :< unless you have a special reason not to do so, which I don't see here. And no, don't give me the excuse that the rhythm is too hard :< - okay, the rhythm is too hard. hurrr. no really, i can't imagine anything easy-ish on this, concrete suggestions on IRC are welcome tho
  3. 00:44:901 (1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2) - okay, kinda gonna be hard to read for less experienced players. YOu might have to just make the slider end land on the main beat, or use longer sliders or something. - merged first one into one large slider (no finish hitsound on the end, as without the double one, it'll feel odd and without hitsounds, it makes the next one feel more magnificent)
  4. 01:01:701 - okay you definitely should not leave this as a break... - would you like to have your way on IRC with me? o3o (yes, I am well aware how this sounds)
  5. 01:21:051 (1,1) - COnsider turning this into a slider - no, that'd take the whole impact on the second note away and really, that's not what I want here
RLC
Elite Mapper
1,006 posts
Joined August 2011
RLC

winber1 wrote:

RLC is a child that needs help

  1. 00:07:401 - imo you should map these spaces. It's actually really awkward to play for the first few times because the previous notes were all so flowing and consistent, and then suddenly you decide to add these spaces. After like two times, it feels more normal because i heard it like so many times. But the combination of the beginning patterns and this just don't mesh well imo. Also this is a difficulty in between insane and Hard, so you might as well just make it a little harder to fulfill it's duty better. i tried to make this map easy though, and the 1/1 gaps in places other than the kiai help bring out the continuous flow in the kiai itself more imo
  2. 00:13:251 (1) - you should remove 1 repeat and add a note at 00:13:851 - If you don't it just feels awkward imo seems like jenny already changed this for me.
  3. 00:20:901 - Imo you should add a note here to follow vocals indeed
  4. 00:22:101 (1) - I don't think the new combo is necessary since it's still the same musical phrase ehhhhh i'd prefer to keep my combos at one measure max cuz im a fag like that
  5. 00:27:201 (1) - ^
  6. 00:29:301 (1) - ^
  7. 00:31:701 (1) - ^
  8. 00:32:451 (1) - same as the first suggestion done, to reflect how jenny did it in the first one.
  9. 00:34:851 (3) - uhhh, use soft hitsounds or something? THis is a little too noisy. Also imo, you should map out 00:35:451 - the empty space is kinda weird to listen to. reduced volume, added slider.
  10. 00:46:551 (2,3) - try this? http://puu.sh/47MmL.jpg (well actually you might want to consider changing the triplet into a repeat slider, meh too lazy to reupload) nah, i want to keep it to those vocals
  11. 00:55:251 (3,4) - Would work better imo if you changed combo 3 into a repeat slider and added a note at 00:55:701 - oakey
  12. 01:23:601 - add note to fit with the vocals, i'd rather not have a keypress here... but i have redesigned that ending a bit so that the 1/1 is a slider instead of a gap
I feel like in general you could do something more than just space literally everything evenly. Add some jumps in kiai or something...? D: idk man. Seems a little too restricted sometimes. And it's much easier than the Insane. I don't have much to say on this, but sometimes I felt like you could do just a little more than you have. Maybe even add more hitcircles instead of spamming sliders everywhere. idk idk i was really afraid of making it too hard, so i stuck to DS and used a lot of 1/1 gaps as you noticed... i had no idea that jenny was going to go and map another hard asdfjasl;dfkgjas;dlkfj this is why i try to avoid mapping lowdiffs for others)
http://puu.sh/48nJI.zip
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1

RLC wrote:

idk i was really afraid of making it too hard, so i stuck to DS and used a lot of 1/1 gaps as you noticed... i had no idea that jenny was going to go and map another hard asdfjasl;dfkgjas;dlkfj this is why i try to avoid mapping lowdiffs for others)
i had a feeling this was the case.

it's k rlc i luv u bby

3>

nothing's wrong with the heart
10crystalmask01
10crystalmask01
Ello! :D Random mod!

[Easy]
00:08:901 (1,2) - Try making these two sliders look similar in shape, there could be a good symmetry here!
For instance, try replacing 00:08:901 (1) with 00:10:101 (2), like this:

00:11:301 (1,2) - Rotate it about 12º and move it so that they fit perfectly in between the vertical axis, so its symmetrical as well (only if you agree to my previous suggestion).
01:04:551 (4) - NC
01:10:101 (1) - Remove NC
01:12:501 (1) - ^
01:14:601 (1,1) - ^
01:23:451 (1) - ^

[Normal]
  1. Looks more like hard mode imo.
00:14:301 - Try using this:


[Rejection]
00:59:001 (4) - This position is being overused,try placing this along with 00:43:551 (1) some place else.
01:21:951 (1) - ^

[Hard]
Nothing wrong here, it looks good :)

[RLC's Hard]
  1. AR -1
    ...And that's it, lol
[Insane]
00:02:301 (2,3) - Try switching their timing spots.
00:15:051 (1,1,1,1) - Stream could go here, but that's just imo.
Sorry I'm not so good at modding Insane diffs :(

Nice map. :)
Hope this helps,and good luck for ranking~!
Nemis
847 posts
Joined May 2012
Nemis
Here as requested :>
[Rejection]
  1. 00:01:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just a little suggestion here. For a better flow I'd wish that you reverse 00:02:301 (3) - this and 00:03:201 (7) - this slider (CTRL+G) individually, the flow would be amazing in my opinion. Here a screenshot to see how the pattern would flow in the left side:
    SPOILER
  2. 00:35:051 (1) - This note is not in time. Set the beat snap divisor 1/8 and then move the note on the yellow tick, or rather perfectly in the middle between 00:34:851 (2,2) - these two sliders. Check it, it sounds perfect in this position.
  3. 00:55:251 (1,2,3) - This pattern is unpredictable and really hard to read in this part of the song. 00:59:001 (1,2,3) - This one is much more acceptable, but this one it's not, aboveall because it's too far from 00:55:101 (5) - this note, and when you point at it you can't read the 1/2 pattern. Whereas when you play 00:58:701 (3,1) - this pattern it will be easier to read since you can predict the 1/2 pattern immediately while you are playing 00:58:701 (3) - this slider. So, if you really want to keep this first antijump pattern at least approach 00:55:101 (5,1) - these two notes to make it readable. 00:46:851 (1,2,3) - This one is readable.
  4. 01:08:901 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Really nice pattern! To make it more fun I'd suggest to increase the spacing of each second triangle (01:09:501 (1,2,3,4) - example) gradually to obtain the last triangle (01:13:101 (1,2,3,4) - ) bigger than 01:12:501 (1,2,3,4) - this one. I hope you understand what I have just suggested.
  5. 01:18:576 (1,1) - Hmmm no, besides the fact that it can be considered overmapped since it's clearly a double, it's really awful to play, even if the end of the spinner is silenced. A high % of players will miss this note or the whole pattern for sure to complete 01:18:576 (1) - this spinner with a high score since you haven't got the sufficient time to read 01:19:851 (1) - this note.
    Try to avoid using hitobjects directly after spinners
Really nice difficulty, I enjoyed it a lot.

[Insane]
  1. 00:07:701 (5) - What about move this slider at x:248 y:240 to keep a second triangle with 00:06:951 (2,4,5) - these element as you did before with 00:06:951 (2,3,4) - these? It would be nice to see.
  2. 00:09:951 (4) - Here is missing a clap I guess. 00:12:051 (3) - Here (end) and 00:12:951 (5) - here (head) too.
  3. 00:12:951 (5) - I'd suggest to move this slider a bit up, it's really close from 00:12:501 (4) - this one, I'd prefer to see a higher distance between them. Maybe try to move it at x:264 y:152.
  4. 00:35:051 (1) - Same as Rejection difficulty, this note is not in time. Set the beat snap divisor 1/8 and then move the note on the yellow tick, or rather perfectly in the middle between 00:34:851 (2,2) - these two sliders. Check it, it sounds perfect in this position.
  5. 00:38:451 (3,4) - This pattern is really hard to read with this low distance. Increase it a little bit, it would be a lot better to play. Try moving 00:38:951 (4) - this note at x:336 y:32.
  6. 00:39:051 (5) - Add a note here to emphasize this strong sound and set normal sampleset as you did 00:37:151 (8) - here. Then set normal sampleset on 00:40:151 (1) - this note too
  7. 00:41:051 (4,5) - Try reversing these two notes (CTRL+G), the pattern would be more fun to play with this flow. Check the screenshot below:
    SPOILER
  8. 01:14:751 (2,3) - For a better flow reverse their position (CTRL+G).
  9. 01:24:201 (1,1) - Little suggestion: what about make a jump between these two sliders? Since there is a big SV increasing 01:24:201 (1) - here and we are at the end of the song it would be really nice to play. Try moving 01:24:501 (1) - this note at x:256 y:64, for example.
[RLC's Hard]
  1. Wow!!! I have nothing to except that 00:34:851 (3) - this slider is off in its first part. Check the Rejection/Insane difficulty and then apply what I pointed out at 00:35:051 (1) - . In addition I'd suggest to reverse 00:54:951 (2) - this slider (CTRL+G) 'cause it flows a lot better.
[Hard]
  1. 00:34:751 (1) - Same as the other difficulties, this slider off in its first part.
Nothing else. Lovely [Hard] as RLC's one!

[Normal]
  1. 01:18:501 (1,1) - This is not recommended on a normal difficulty. You should finish it earlier or at least move the first element more to the center as possible.
[Easy]
  1. Nice. I'd only say that I'd use tick rate 1 instead of 2 in this difficulty. Besides the fact that they are really to many, I don't like to see this kind of overlaps (tick-head/tail) in each slider:
    SPOILER
Jenny
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Applied the majority of suggestions of Nemis, only NCs on Easy and part of the suggested rhythm change in Normal from crystalmask though.
Sorry for not adding a detailed reply like with the other mods, I'm just so tired and worn out today \;a;/
joa456
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e.e q se ponga este map en rank mierda
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I hate you Jenny,you don't ask me for GD :/
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PRO! :DDDD!
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Re-checked. Seems pretty good now.

Currently, I don't really know what's happenig with the title length problem, but I guess we'll see what happens with that.

bubbled :3
dkun
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Just a note: this cannot be ranked unless the title bug is fixed.
Zare
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Someone fix this Q_Q
Andrea
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p/2568308

Popping this for now due to the incorrect title.

Once the title bug is fixed and you've changed it, call me back and I'll fully mod this.
Zare
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Uhm, that wasn't really a reason to pop the bubble. Jenny as well as the BATs knew it couldn't be ranked like this, but well, the map itself is good to go, so they bubbled it already, waiting for the Bug fix. Taking one bubble and thus one potential rank away like that for a technical issue is kinda mean =/

In any case, I notied something in [Rejection]:
00:47:676 (3,1) - Why is this not spaced out like 00:47:976 (4,1)? I would do this in order to keep consistency and to fit the stronger Beat at that point.
Jenny
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^that's because it feels really awkward to change the spacing that early in the stream already - you just came out of the slider with full speed, then slow down, but then you would have to jump yet again and that really just crashes each other and feels totally meh
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~
Jenny
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If only title length fixes
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ppy pls resond.
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one day
Zare
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9 months and counting.

better put screenshot previews on top of the screenshot in song select rather than fixing bugs that prevent cool ranks
Jenny
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Zzzz..
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I'm still waiting peppy ~3~
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let it live
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It apparently works now













yay
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pls do it for her
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..that's creepy man














I'll take it anyways, thanks :v
Zare
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oh wow irre thanks

and i sound like this is my mapset
Jenny
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Few spacing changes to Rejection for better accentuation (also made the big kiai-repeatpattern less pain up the booty) + improved few wavesliders in Hard.
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alright
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Finally, lol
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Good gods, that's an old bubble.

[General]
Since you're mapping through 00:35:451 - I recommend you use tick rate 1 for this song.

[Easy]
OD +2
00:16:851 (1) - Way too soon after a spinner for an Easy. Give about 4 beats at this BPM.
00:30:951 (2,1) - Surprised there was no tick sound magic on these two sliders.
01:21:651 (1) - Too soon after spinner blah blah
01:24:501 (1) - Remove new combo

[Normal]
OD +1 or 2
This is really high SV compared to the AR. Not too fond of it.
00:16:251 (1) - Way too soon after a spinner in a Normal. Give 2-3 beats for this BPM. The spinner itself is really short too. It's probably best to map through it.
00:33:201 (1,1,1) - New combo spam. :(
00:42:651 (1,1,1,1,1) - Don't new combo spam please.
00:47:301 (1) - etc
01:21:051 (1) - Soon after spinner

[Hard]
OD +1 or 2
00:13:851 (1,1,1) - New combo spammmmmm. Not going to mention them anymore on your maps. Get rid of 'em. They screw with hp drain and most of what I've seen they don't even really fit the musical phrasing well.
00:36:651 (4,5) - Although it's distance snapped, I'd have it slightly overlapped with the end of 4 so that it's very obvious the snap is going to be different.
I kind of wish you used more hard angles on the sliders considering the style of song.

[RLC]
OD +1 or 2
Pretty solid, though it felt too smooth for the genre.

[Insane]
OD +1 or 2
00:12:051 (3) - ctrl + g if you want to be consistent with your jumps
00:20:901 (7,1) - After all those jumps this felt way too close
00:33:501 (3,1,2) - Erm, why?
00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This felt a little off since the song stopped gaining in intensity, but the pattern kept going.
01:16:701 (4) - Such a drastic velocity change for not much of a change in the music.
01:21:201 (2) - And the same story here.
01:22:101 (1) - And when she's actually holding a note so a slider makes sense, it's super-slow compared to the one before it. Doesn't flow well at all.
01:24:201 (1) - And back to zoom zoom. Try listening to the music during this end section and get a better feel for it. Right now the interpretation is pretty wildly disproportionate compared to what's really going on.

[Extra]
00:14:001 (2,3) - 00:14:601 (2,3) - They're snapped wrong. Fix that. There's a lot more riddled throughout the map.
00:42:801 (2,1) - This first return really doesn't flow very well. The second iteration's jump is much smaller and flows nicely making it really unbalanced in comparison. The third has the same bad flow problem as the first, and the last one is nice. You might want to rethink this particular set of patterns.
01:05:151 (5,6) - This flows better if the 6 was positioned lower. The end is also unsnapped.
The end also has the same velocity issues that then Insane has.
Jenny
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Garven wrote:

Good gods, that's an old bubble.

[General]
Since you're mapping through 00:35:451 - I recommend you use tick rate 1 for this song. | I'm actually using 2 because I'm using hitsounded sliderticks in the lower diffs - while I know this causes quite a bit of "ugh-ness" in taiko converts, I want to keep it at 2 for hitsounding purposes; I will, however, lower their volume in this section to make it a bit less.. weird, for people with more audible ticks in their skins

[Easy]
OD +2 | k
00:16:851 (1) - Way too soon after a spinner for an Easy. Give about 4 beats at this BPM. | Seing as this is a rather centered slider, I think 3/1 should do in this case, so I shortened the spinner by one, having the consistent spinnerend-whistle like in the other diffs
00:30:951 (2,1) - Surprised there was no tick sound magic on these two sliders. | the only form of magic I see possible here would be quite confusing to the player because it'd be like 1/2 right after the initial click, which I'd much rather avoid on an Easy and not-climax section, so that's why I stuck to the more simple main rhythm
01:21:651 (1) - Too soon after spinner blah blah | I believe this one should feel fairly natural enough with the rhythm and momentum going into it; moved it to lead better into 2, though
01:24:501 (1) - Remove new combo | k

[Normal]
OD +1 or 2 | +1
This is really high SV compared to the AR. Not too fond of it. | increasing AR by 1
00:16:251 (1) - Way too soon after a spinner in a Normal. Give 2-3 beats for this BPM. The spinner itself is really short too. It's probably best to map through it. | don't think there's a rhythmically nice way to put this differently, so I'm kinda wanting to keep it as-is; moving the following two combos a bit more to the left, though, to have it more centered after the spin
00:33:201 (1,1,1) - New combo spam. :( | dragged the first NC to the slider before so it should look less ugh with the doublered now
00:42:651 (1,1,1,1,1) - Don't new combo spam please. | halvened combo density :v
00:47:301 (1) - etc | is do
01:21:051 (1) - Soon after spinner | this one's 3/2, and with the momentum here, I'd say it comes rather natural, so I want to keep it as-is

[Hard]
OD +1 or 2 | 6 now
00:13:851 (1,1,1) - New combo spammmmmm. Not going to mention them anymore on your maps. Get rid of 'em. They screw with hp drain and most of what I've seen they don't even really fit the musical phrasing well. | there's actually strongly seperated pairing going on here, so I'd rather keep it
00:36:651 (4,5) - Although it's distance snapped, I'd have it slightly overlapped with the end of 4 so that it's very obvious the snap is going to be different.
I kind of wish you used more hard angles on the sliders considering the style of song. | not quite an overlap now but just about no bit of air between them; should get the thingy across, I guess

[RLC]
OD +1 or 2 | OD7/8 for this kind of diff..? raaaaaaaaaaaaather not.
Pretty solid, though it felt too smooth for the genre.

[Insane]
OD +1 or 2 | you should really do something about your highOD obsession Garven (raised to 7.5, not going to push this to oblivion because it's not the peak diff)
00:12:051 (3) - ctrl + g if you want to be consistent with your jumps | true that
00:20:901 (7,1) - After all those jumps this felt way too close | why yes, it is close, but the 180° turn into the new combo gives it fairly enough snappy pressure as to keep it viable in my eyes, so I'll keep this
00:33:501 (3,1,2) - Erm, why? | I don't know anymore
00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This felt a little off since the song stopped gaining in intensity, but the pattern kept going. | I can see it continuing the upwards trend until 00:44:151, keeping
01:16:701 (4) - Such a drastic velocity change for not much of a change in the music. | stretched vocals without any of the previously more screaming tone to it makes this very much of a holdy section to me
01:21:201 (2) - And the same story here. | tons of instrumental pressure coming back for the finish
01:22:101 (1) - And when she's actually holding a note so a slider makes sense, it's super-slow compared to the one before it. Doesn't flow well at all. | that's a low-momentum vocal string, so I'm following, again, the "holdiness" of the whole thing, rather than a continuously strong momentum covering a wide distance
01:24:201 (1) - And back to zoom zoom. Try listening to the music during this end section and get a better feel for it. Right now the interpretation is pretty wildly disproportionate compared to what's really going on. | disagree. short-jabby end to the song, short-jabby end to the map. not much more to say in that matter.

[Extra] *Rejection
00:14:001 (2,3) - 00:14:601 (2,3) - They're snapped wrong. Fix that. There's a lot more riddled throughout the map. | how are they snapped wrong, they're exactly on the same beats as in Insane and any other diff; unless you would want me to extend the slider by 1/8 or 3/16 to get a more abrupt and guitarfollowing transition, I don't see what you mean by this.
00:42:801 (2,1) - This first return really doesn't flow very well. The second iteration's jump is much smaller and flows nicely making it really unbalanced in comparison. The third has the same bad flow problem as the first, and the last one is nice. You might want to rethink this particular set of patterns. | that's the point: the song is jabby and having a harsh impact, demanding you to focus on every repetition individually, which is best achieved by not making it too monotoneous and horridly consistent - you can see I'm following a pattern and it's evidently achieving just that, so I'm very convinced of keeping it as-is
01:05:151 (5,6) - This flows better if the 6 was positioned lower. The end is also unsnapped. | the end is not unsnapped, it's on the blue tick.. also, again, the more abrupt change emphasizes the shift from the more snappy drumpattern into the more pairy guitar strings, even more so because you don't follow the same curved string and shaping throughout both of them
The end also has the same velocity issues that then Insane has. | I have the same response for this as before :v

~ I hope you can see my points with the explanations provided and find yourself able to agree, or at least bear with them.
Zare
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Zare
I'd like to add something about NC spam on lowdiffs:



^^^ That's Jenny's Hard diff lolol ^^^

Yes, it does affect the drain, but NO, this is not an issue. on low HP values with low object density it's very possible to survive through critical situations, or in my above example, through constant misses and accuracy-fucks and sliderbreaks even with a lot of NCs. Whether they make sense musically is another story, but they're technically not really a problem, youc an still get ridiculously bad scores with it.
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Rerank this already meh
Garven
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I haven't rechecked, but the pop was over the notes too soon after spinners, so give more recovery time. Those are non-negotiable.
Zare
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Zare
In Easy:

01:21:651 (1) - just delete this as a compromise, very similarly to what you did at 00:16:251 -

In Normal:

00:15:051 (1) - this one's too short for a [Normal] spinner anyway. Just map it using hitobjects

edit: nvm these I guess

01:18:501 (1) - I'd shorten this to 01:20:001 - where the musical phrase starts still makes sense and gives a lot of room for players
Garven
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Garven
Lookin' better.

[Normal]
Since you bumped AR up one, bump OD up another accordingly.
01:21:051 (1) - Still too soon after a spinner. The most natural spot to end would be at 01:19:851 - (would also fit better for the Easy compared to where it's currently ending so you can start mapping again when the band comes back in)

[Hard]
00:13:851 (1,1,1) - These are all part of the same musical phrase. I don't see how they are "pairing." The way you're mapping each combo at about a measure each, it'd make more sense to remove the new combo at 00:13:251 (1) - and at 00:14:301 (1) - (and 00:15:201 (1) - if you're being really anal about it)
00:36:651 (4,5) - Looks good, thanks

[RLC]
Still needs that bump up in OD.

[Insane]
00:16:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ALL of these are back and forth jumps. Suddenly breaking that at 00:20:901 (7,1) - broke your flow.
01:16:251 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I'd rather you made it similar to this pattern 00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - considering the intensity is much more obvious in this section. Maybe starting slow and building up back to normal speed. Keeping it all at not-moving speed doesn't make sense musically and the tiny distance snap increments currently don't really represent it well.
01:21:201 (2) - I'm not feeling this "pressure" you're speaking of. Especially after the big rise from before - all of the power is in the first two notes with わた. After that, there's nothing. A slider doesn't fit here in the first place - two circles would represent this best. But having it as a faster than the normal established speed AND as a slider just doesn't fit at all.
01:22:101 (1) - Though it does fit with your previous explanations, compared with the slider before it, it just plays poorly. I think adjusting this to the highest point of however you increased the previous pattern (if you do) would work well.
01:24:201 (1) - And this is the same as the other fast slider. It works better as a circle, not a slider for the same reasons stated above.

[Extra]
00:14:001 (2,2) - The ends should be snapped on the white tick. There's nothing on the blue ticks. There's a lot like this that don't really fit the song.
00:42:801 (2,1) - I still think having more of a progressive increase would work much better since this works the same as what you did in the Insane at the same point
01:05:301 (6) - The blue tick is unsnapped as there's nothing in the music there. Actually, Instead of moving it down like I originally suggested, from your explanation I think having the motion work when you ctrl + g it fits the flow from before then. You'll have that opposite of the anticipated flow action continued from the circle honeycombish patterns.
And if you make adjustments to the weird SV changes in the Insane, apply them here too.
Garven
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Garven
I'll reply when I get a chance. Just posting this here for the history. I'm still not happy with the ridiculous speed changes at the end of Insane and Extra. I'll probably call for a compromise.

2014-08-19 18:23 Jenny: I put an update for the lower diffs; shortened the spin in Normal, using decimal AR/OD for RLC's diff now because it doesn't feel quite "Insane"-y enough for AR8OD7 to me
2014-08-19 18:23 Jenny: also OD7.5 for Insane
2014-08-19 18:24 Jenny: eh, AR7.5 for RLC's hard* still OD7
2014-08-19 18:25 Jenny: *as an off-the-side update ping
2014-08-19 18:55 Garven: Alright
2014-08-19 18:56 Garven: So is it ready for rechecking? Or that just a quick update thus-far?
2014-08-19 18:56 Jenny: I kinda want to stick to the highdiff stuff still
2014-08-19 18:57 Garven: Meh. I still don't feel it at all. Do you at least get where I'm coming from?
2014-08-19 18:57 Jenny: 00:20:901 (7,1) - on Insane, because this is a collabed diff, this is a section change between the vocalists, which is why the way of mapping is also changing here
2014-08-19 18:57 Garven: Well, I'm not set up for modding atm so I'll check those when I can
2014-08-19 18:57 Jenny: 01:16:251 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I can see what you mean about this one when comparing it to the previous (00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) but..
2014-08-19 18:58 Jenny: at this point, it's more like.. not an actual huge change in pressure each time, it's not really speedy
2014-08-19 18:58 Jenny: it's more like it gets more focussed and pinned on the vocals, I would say?
2014-08-19 18:59 Jenny: which is what I find the slider-to-circle angles I have there do quite well because you have this active snap and switch of the flowlines there
2014-08-19 18:59 Jenny: like every combo has it's own curve and you snap and switch between them on the strongly put verses
2014-08-19 18:59 Jenny: you can check back on this whenever, doesn't really have to be now, I'll just use the chance to write it down
2014-08-19 19:01 Jenny: 01:22:101 (1) - this one, I could see work if I ctrl-G'd it because you'd have the more jumpy initiation since, well, the vocal it starts on is kind of.. sticking out? then again, that also makes this part a fair bit harder yet again and would make the next transition kinda awkward
2014-08-19 19:02 Jenny: and I kinda want the more holdy aspect there, since it also forces more attention to the change in pace which goes with the vocal
2014-08-19 19:03 Jenny: 01:24:201 (1) - the ending slider, from a sheer "a slider should end on a sound" point, doesn't make much sense, yes - but well, I don't use sliders as "one click two hitsounds" objects most of the time (if anything, I'd utilize the latter part on more jabby transitions with them ending 1/4 before the other object, like in Rejection)
2014-08-19 19:05 Jenny: so here it's functioning as an accelerated guided playing path (plus, holding the key down during the sliderpath contributes to the whole ending snap for me- like, you see the next object, you hear the vocals, you know there's a last finishing beat incoming and you hold the one you are currently at for the ending snap)
2014-08-19 19:06 Jenny: 00:14:001 (2,2) - @Rejection: pretty much what I just elaborated on, it's for the jabby-snapping transitions here, and I did lower the volume of the slider's ends (might actually take it down by another 10-15% or so)
2014-08-19 19:07 Jenny: though in this case, the guitar is rather lasting aswell, so I wanted to keep the previous string's momentum for as long as possible each time, because, well, that gives the snappy tone and play to it that I find very much dominant in the song
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