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[GUIDE] How to improve in osu!mania

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DaNsoN soN
nice , :)
CXgaruda
What if i don't want to play other keymodes , what if i only want to play 4k ? :x
Wh1teh

CXgaruda wrote:

What if i don't want to play other keymodes , what if i only want to play 4k ? :x
Just enjoy game.
Yuudachi-kun
4k is the only good key amyways
gintoki147
4k scrubs
M0STW4NT3D
still bad at jumpstream & jumptrill :(
do you guys have any good map about that pattern??
(5.5*+)
mysweetpiano_old
Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
troke

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
nice keep trying :)
gintoki147
How do you guys deal with changes to much slower scroll speeds?
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.

Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating. :|
Yuudachi-kun
I edit the map to have no SV changes.
gintoki147
my hero
Bobbias

gintoki147 wrote:

How do you guys deal with changes to much slower scroll speeds?
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.

Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating. :|
Handling slowdowns is a difficult skill to learn. I know in o2jam players would often practice at slow speeds until they were able to play well at both low and high speeds. Since I play with flashlight, slowdowns are one of the few things that can completely ruin a map for me (in terms of playability). For example, I can't pass ExPew's Wintersun or Entozer's Oni Kanojo because of the slowdowns. I try not to let it bother me much. I sometimes play maps with slowdowns on nofail just so I can enjoy the map though.
M0STW4NT3D
i guess the best training method for slowdown is to play with slow speed :)
mysweetpiano_old

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!
M0STW4NT3D

mysweetpiano wrote:

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!


Yeah you just need to play everyday :)
Bobbias

mysweetpiano wrote:

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!
That's great! And that's a great way to look at things too. It's ok to recognize when you're having a bad day, but don't let it bother you. Even playing on bad days helps you improve.
DaJoeyElMacho
What if the only problem is I can't match my hands with the beatmap speed?
Bobbias
Your skills won't improve at the same speed, so it's common to run into problems where your speed is holding you back. When that happens, you should try to find maps that are just a little bit too fast to play properly and practice on those.
DaJoeyElMacho

Bobbias wrote:

Your skills won't improve at the same speed, so it's common to rub into problems where your speed is holding you back. When that happens, you should try to find maps that are just a little bit too fast to play properly and practice on those.
Ahh sometimes I just randomly find beatmap and I even don't know its speed xD
Bobbias
Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
M0STW4NT3D

Bobbias wrote:

Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
so you need to play the same map over and over again right??
DaJoeyElMacho

Bobbias wrote:

Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
Okay. I already repeat some beatmap and at the same time it's inspire me to get better at osu!mania, like beatmap Imprinting 4k
Bobbias
No, you shouldn't replay the same map over and over. Playing it a few times is ok, but if you keep playing a map over and over, you will improve your scores on ONLY that map. Even though it looks like you're getting better, you won't see nearly as much improvement on other maps.

The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
DaJoeyElMacho

Bobbias wrote:

No, you shouldn't replay the same map over and over. Playing it a few times is ok, but if you keep playing a map over and over, you will improve your scores on ONLY that map. Even though it looks like you're getting better, you won't see nearly as much improvement on other maps.

The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
So you mean repeating same beatmap over and over isn't helping much?
Yuudachi-kun
I repeat the same 150 beatmaps over and over again
Bobbias
Repeating a beatmap causes you to memorize the patterns in that beatmap. When you memorize the patterns, you are no longer learning how to read patterns better when you play that map. You can still get some improvement from playing it, but the improvement will not be as fast as if you didn't replay the same song a lot.

Personally, One of my areas of strength is sightreading beatmaps. When I play a beatmap, chances are I won't play the same one again for a few weeks at least, sometimes I don't replay it for a few months. There are maps I play more often than that, but even then I usually play my favorite maps less than once a week on average.
M0STW4NT3D
well if you play same map over and over again i think use random will help to improve :)
Yuudachi-kun
All random seems to do is reverse the notes?
Bobbias
Random swaps the columns around. So every note on a column will switch to a different column with random. So a pattern like 1234 might become 2134 next time you play it with random.
vinnicci
While i'm fine with speeding up, I tend to avoid beatmaps that slows down scroll speed, is it okay if I skip them? Is there an abundance of them in later levels?
Bobbias
No. Slowdowns are not that common at higher skill levels, but they are still more common than they are at low skill levels. I personally can't play maps with slowdowns at all, because I play with flashlight and have always been really bad at them even before I started using that mod. It does mean there are a few maps I can't play without nofail, but it doesn't bother me too much. If I really enjoy a map, I will sometimes make an edited copy with the slowdown removed.
DJ Profetti
there are always sv slow down pattern in the map above 7 star. actually, very common.especially in o2jam style.
ReTLoM
for slowdowns i usually play the song a few times listen closely to the music, and than i play slow parts "just" by listening to the music feel the rhythm and play what i see cant really describe but it helps me allot to know the song
Yume_no_Yuusha
Thanks for the guide.

I'm really a noob before I see your guide. and now.. I can messed up
with 3~4* in mania. I'm looking to play with you someday.
decoy-
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Bobbias
Everyone learns at a different speed, so yes that's pretty normal. If you were Sing things like empress SHD after 3 months, that would be extremely fast.
decoy-
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Bobbias
If you're hitting the wrong key, you're not actually reading it correctly. When I watch staiain play, I can 'read' the patterns he's playing. That is, I can understand what the patterns are when I watch him play, but if you asked me to play with that scroll speed, I would not be able to react fast enough to play even easy maps because I can't actually read the patterns.

When you press the wrong key, this happens when your brain cannot read the notes fast enough to actually figure out the correct finger to press. Instead, your brain just picks a finger and hopes it gets it right.

Of course, your brain can still make these mistakes once in a while even when you're perfectly capable of reading a pattern, but these usually result in a single missed note or 2 through an entire song.

Reading is something that you develop over time. As far as I can tell, the best way to train your ability to read is to avoid playing the same songs over again as much as possible. Learning to sightread beatmaps (in other words, learning to play completely new maps you've never seen before) will help develop reading skill faster than if you played the same few maps over and over.

3 months is still quite new to the game, so don't worry too much about it, you will keep getting better for a while no matter what you do.
decoy-
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yetii

ooux wrote:

Many thanks , i suppose i just have to practice more and more . Just by the way already did A ond the Team Grimoire - C18H27NO3 and after one week of relax i can play bit harder maps .
Yea just play alot, you will get the hang of patterns the more you play which allow you to play harder maps using the same patterns but faster or slightly more complex. It's important that you 'master' your appropriate skill level before jumping to a harder diff and never looking back at easier charts.

Just don't worry too much about improving as fast as you can, otherwise you will lose motivation when u hit a skill wall which will probably cause you to stagnate even more.
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