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Spaghetti

1,118 posts

Joined August 2014

Spaghetti 2015-05-07T05:49:39+00:00

comment, might just be my preference.
Recommended.
Highly Recommended.
Unrankable.

[General]

The background is pretty low quality, May I suggest some?
1
2
3 (My favorite.)
Make sure to turn on letter-boxing if you go with options 1 ~~or 2~~
If you keep the BG you have now, I'd add RGB (91,0,0) and (153,94,213).
The AR is a bit too slow, You should bump it up a bit but keep it under 9.

[Goddess]

00:31:037 (7) - Since this stream is a pickup to the next bar, the NC should just be placed here.
00:34:347 (2,3,4,5,6) - Either I'm deaf or this is overmapped to holy hell.
00:36:313 (13) - No triple there, this note is unnecessary.
00:36:002 (11) - Since this is a pickup to the next bar, the NC should just be placed here.
01:11:126 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - You should add the finish hit sound every white line.
02:03:008 (4,5,6,7) - I don't hear a stream here but you might as well make this Etna sliders to compliment the vocals as well.
02:43:596 (1) - Plays better without that note imo.
03:21:360 (1,2) - A slider would compliment the legato and slur of the violins a lot better.
03:38:163 (7) - This slider ends so awkwardly, It should end on the end of "thought" (the next white line)
04:19:380 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This stream breaks the calmness of the section too early, I'd replace it with 1/6 beats.
05:07:453 (9) - Since this is a pickup to the next bar, I'd place the NC there.
05:16:453 (5) - ^
06:31:320 (4,5) - I can hear it but it really is tacked on and doesn't play well, I think a hitcircle there would function much better.
07:04:132 (1) - This note should stay on the Normal hitsounding, the the switch between soft and normal there is too high and it sounds really awkward.
08:02:507 (3,4) - I don't understand why the spacing between these two is so much higher (especially since the map just got a lot slower) but I think it should remain the same as the distance between 08:02:132 (2,3) - .
08:18:070 (1) - This should be placed in between 08:17:695 (3) - and 08:18:257 (2) - since it's a pickup to the next part of the lyrics and for better flow.

GL

ktgster

Elite Mapper

482 posts

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

ktgster 2015-05-10T04:58:20+00:00

Bolded are answers (got rid of any bolded parts for clarity).

Spaghetti wrote:

bestgif2015

comment, might just be my preference.
Recommended.
Highly Recommended.
Unrankable.

[General]
The background is pretty low quality, May I suggest some?
1
This doesn't fit with the song at ALL
2
While cute, it's only really fitting for 9.1% of the map really
3 (My favorite.)
Cool, but the BG is kinda just too dark for this song. Most fitting though.
Make sure to turn on letter-boxing if you go with options 1 ~~or 2~~
If you keep the BG you have now, I'd add RGB (91,0,0) and (153,94,213). - red isn't that fitting although I'll take the pink shaded one
The AR is a bit too slow, You should bump it up a bit but keep it under 9. - 8.5
[Goddess]
00:31:037 (7) - Since this stream is a pickup to the next bar, the NC should just be placed here. - except its just a pickup, I really don't think that needs a NC over the actual starting bar
00:34:347 (2,3,4,5,6) - Either I'm deaf or this is overmapped to holy hell. - yeah... you probably are deaf although to begin with, this can be questionable
00:36:313 (13) - No triple there, this note is unnecessary. - actually, there is a note on 1/6 here fixed
00:36:002 (11) - Since this is a pickup to the next bar, the NC should just be placed here. - same as before
01:11:126 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - You should add the finish hit sound every white line. - added every 2nd white line as every white tick detracts the hitsounding and the song
02:03:008 (4,5,6,7) - I don't hear a stream here but you might as well make this Etna sliders to compliment the vocals as well. - replaced slider with circle instead
02:43:596 (1) - Plays better without that note imo. - stacked on 2 instead
03:21:360 (1,2) - A slider would compliment the legato and slur of the violins a lot better. - no comment on that one. They're both equal honestly
03:38:163 (7) - This slider ends so awkwardly, It should end on the end of "thought" (the next white line) - ends like between the red tick and the blue, so just ended at the red tick
04:19:380 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This stream breaks the calmness of the section too early, I'd replace it with 1/6 beats. - hmm I don't think so since the song is building up
05:07:453 (9) - Since this is a pickup to the next bar, I'd place the NC there. - yeah... same as before
05:16:453 (5) - ^ - ^
06:31:320 (4,5) - I can hear it but it really is tacked on and doesn't play well, I think a hitcircle there would function much better. - that sound is kinda dominant so I just went with a slider
07:04:132 (1) - This note should stay on the Normal hitsounding, the the switch between soft and normal there is too high and it sounds really awkward. - yay my 2013 hitsounding
08:02:507 (3,4) - I don't understand why the spacing between these two is so much higher (especially since the map just got a lot slower) but I think it should remain the same as the distance between 08:02:132 (2,3) - fixed
08:18:070 (1) - This should be placed in between 08:17:695 (3) - and 08:18:257 (2) - since it's a pickup to the next part of the lyrics and for better flow. - except this part doesn't flow as well and I think it is much more smoother this way
GL

orbital gun

171 posts

Joined January 2011

orbital gun 2015-05-15T04:54:33+00:00

irc mod chat log i guess

spooky chat log!!

2015-05-15 00:24 Jaitonat: would an irc mod be fine
2015-05-15 00:24 Jaitonat: :^)
2015-05-15 00:25 Jaitonat: i can irc mod but i can't forum mod
2015-05-15 00:25 Jaitonat: basically
2015-05-15 00:26 ktgster: lol im doing an irc mod right now lol
2015-05-15 00:26 Jaitonat: be sure not to cross the irc mods
2015-05-15 00:26 Jaitonat: god forbid what would happen if we did that
2015-05-15 00:26 Jaitonat: the world would probably implode
2015-05-15 00:27 Jaitonat: there are parts where it feeld like you overmapped the streams just for the sake of overmapping streams
2015-05-15 00:27 Jaitonat: 01:05:478 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
2015-05-15 00:27 Jaitonat: like that one for instance
2015-05-15 00:27 Jaitonat: feels kinda awkward in play
2015-05-15 00:27 ktgster: wouldn't really call it overstreaming
2015-05-15 00:28 ktgster: i guess it would be kinda weird though
2015-05-15 00:28 Jaitonat: it's not
2015-05-15 00:28 Jaitonat: it just
2015-05-15 00:28 Jaitonat: feels awkward to play
2015-05-15 00:28 Jaitonat: since there's no buildup to it
2015-05-15 00:28 ktgster: ehh
2015-05-15 00:28 ktgster: idk what to do there
2015-05-15 00:29 Jaitonat: i think sliders or a spinner would be more appropriate there tbh
2015-05-15 00:29 Jaitonat: also
2015-05-15 00:29 Jaitonat: 02:27:008 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - stuff like that feels out of place too
2015-05-15 00:29 Jaitonat: not exactly overmapped just out of place
2015-05-15 00:30 Jaitonat: i think having a stream there is fine but maybe try putting repeater sliders in there instead of having it be a full stream
2015-05-15 00:30 ktgster: i might just get rid of that stream all together
2015-05-15 00:31 Jaitonat: that works i guess
2015-05-15 00:31 Jaitonat: 03:38:163 (7) - slider here feels kinda light compared to how the rest of the sliders look in the map
2015-05-15 00:31 Jaitonat: feels like it doesn't bend enough
2015-05-15 00:32 Jaitonat: especially since this one 03:52:250 (4) - bends a lot more after it
2015-05-15 00:32 Jaitonat: especially since this the slider very shortly after it bends a lot more
2015-05-15 00:32 Jaitonat: oh
2015-05-15 00:32 Jaitonat: rip i thought the message didn't go through
2015-05-15 00:32 Jaitonat: comp lagged and it stayed scrolled up lol
2015-05-15 00:32 ktgster: well i think i got it
2015-05-15 00:32 Jaitonat: might just be me nitpicking i guess
2015-05-15 00:33 Jaitonat: 04:19:380 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2015-05-15 00:33 Jaitonat: this stream felt awkward in play
2015-05-15 00:33 Jaitonat: but that's probably because i'm bad at low bpm
2015-05-15 00:33 Jaitonat: can't tell
2015-05-15 00:34 Jaitonat: though comparatively there's a lot more sliders in that part compared to streams
2015-05-15 00:34 Jaitonat: i think a repeater would work better for flow
2015-05-15 00:36 ktgster: kk started the stream with a slider
2015-05-15 00:36 Jaitonat: the part that starts at 05:26:016 is fine in general, but
2015-05-15 00:36 Jaitonat: oops insert -
2015-05-15 00:36 Jaitonat: *05:26:016-
2015-05-15 00:36 Jaitonat: rip i don't know how time links work lol
2015-05-15 00:37 Jaitonat: anyways
2015-05-15 00:37 Jaitonat: it's fine in general but, this stream 05:28:828 (2,3,4,5,6) -
2015-05-15 00:37 Jaitonat: feels a bit out of flow
2015-05-15 00:37 Jaitonat: since it starts on teh red point
2015-05-15 00:37 Jaitonat: a bit awkward to sightread but it's probably fine if you go through the map again i guess
2015-05-15 00:39 Jaitonat: 07:03:729 (10,1) - transitioon from the slider from the note feels a little awkward
2015-05-15 00:39 Jaitonat: try increasing spacing on the circle
2015-05-15 00:39 ktgster: ehh you're constantly streaming so i really wouldn't find that awkward
2015-05-15 00:40 ktgster: that part, the circle shouldn't even exist
2015-05-15 00:40 Jaitonat: spooky circle
2015-05-15 00:41 ktgster: and if i got rid of the repeat, where the hell do i put the circle then
2015-05-15 00:41 Jaitonat: the repeat is fine
2015-05-15 00:41 Jaitonat: it's just the spacing between the repeat and the circle
2015-05-15 00:41 Jaitonat: too narrow
2015-05-15 00:41 ktgster: just got rid of the circle
2015-05-15 00:41 ktgster: that shouldn't have existed
2015-05-15 00:41 Jaitonat: works i guess
2015-05-15 00:41 Jaitonat: lol
2015-05-15 00:43 Jaitonat: 09:34:945 (1) - this whole part feels a little too slow compared to the kiai that's right before it
2015-05-15 00:43 Jaitonat: i think if you had a few triplets scattered around it'd feel better to play
2015-05-15 00:44 Jaitonat: like, a triplet into the longer sliders every now and then would be fine
2015-05-15 00:44 Jaitonat: i think it'd fit with the percussion in the background too
2015-05-15 00:45 ktgster: its a buildup
2015-05-15 00:45 Jaitonat: i get that, still feels awkward in play
2015-05-15 00:45 ktgster: the kiai doesn't really have many 1/4's
2015-05-15 00:45 Jaitonat: buildup starts too low
2015-05-15 00:45 Jaitonat: as it goes into the next kiai
2015-05-15 00:45 Jaitonat: imo
2015-05-15 00:47 ktgster: idk
2015-05-15 00:47 Jaitonat: i guess that's all the things i could immediately nitpick about the map, rest seems fine and enjoyable
2015-05-15 00:49 Jaitonat: anything else say would probably just end up being "NOT ENOUGH SR!!" or something along those lines lol
2015-05-15 00:49 ktgster: 4.99 stars lol

hope this gets ranked, it'd give a lot of pp :^)

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-05-15T05:04:10+00:00

cannot believe i just did this

21:09 byfar: 00:20:692 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - imo just do 1 curve or str8 stream
21:09 byfar: like idk
21:09 byfar: looks iffy on ar8
21:09 ktgster: uhh its AR 8.5
21:09 byfar: o rip
21:09 ktgster: are you doing the [Goddess] Diff?
21:09 *byfar is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/689521 Oratorio The World God Only Knows - God only knows -Secrets of the Goddess- [Goddess]]
21:09 byfar: this right
21:10 ktgster: yes
21:10 byfar: 00:26:485 (1) - man
21:10 byfar: can u circle the white tick
21:10 byfar: idk man
21:10 byfar: just feels weird
21:10 ktgster: wut?
21:10 byfar: like
21:10 byfar: nvm
21:10 byfar: its ok
21:10 ktgster: so basically, map the 1/1 ticks?
21:11 ktgster: would have refused regardless lol
21:11 byfar: its kinda fine i think
21:11 byfar: 00:32:692 (6,7,1) -
21:11 byfar: kinda weird flow?
21:11 ktgster: hmm
21:12 byfar: i'd do smth like this idk
21:12 byfar: http://puu.sh/hNOmd/7bb170d049.jpg
21:12 byfar: curve is intuitive for this kinda flow i think
21:12 byfar: up 2 u
21:12 ktgster: pretty much no room
21:12 ktgster: and my distance snapping kinda gets screwed up here
21:13 ktgster: if i move the slider downwards, its probably going to play even worse tbh
21:13 byfar: u can move this part around
21:13 byfar: 00:30:002 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) -
21:14 byfar: for the room
21:14 byfar: unless if u have a specific angle
21:14 byfar: that ur turning at with those clicks
21:17 ktgster: kk done
21:17 byfar: 01:15:008 (6,7) - idk if its just me but
21:17 byfar: 1x to 2x is kinda abrupt to me idk
21:17 byfar: the first section is like
21:17 byfar: 2.5-3 star ish difficulty
21:17 byfar: 01:13:773 (5,1) - u had 1.8 x here and i thought it was fine
21:18 ktgster: 2.0 is keeping this pattern though
21:20 ktgster: i don't think i will change it
21:20 ktgster: probably move the note lower for better flow though
21:20 byfar: wait
21:21 byfar: i think i know the problem
21:21 byfar: 01:15:185 (7,8,1) - its the triple 1/4
21:21 byfar: forsome reason i keep fucking up there
21:21 ktgster: theres no hitsound on 7
21:21 byfar: its like
21:21 ktgster: i really need to fix the hitsounding on this
21:21 byfar: i have a jump then i have to slow down
21:21 byfar: kinda uhh
21:21 byfar: its linear
21:22 byfar: 2x then .68x ds on a linear motion is meh i thinK
21:22 ktgster: kk will change to 1.0x
21:22 byfar: i think a stack works
21:22 byfar: better
21:22 byfar: i think it emphasizes hold better
21:22 byfar: the 1/1 slider hold
21:24 ktgster: yeah done
21:27 byfar: u kept 2x ds right
21:27 ktgster: yep
21:28 byfar: 01:17:302 (2,3) - idk i thought stacking 2 on 3 would play better too
21:28 ktgster: idk i like it better without the stacking
21:29 byfar: eh sure
21:29 byfar: i just thought it was weird cuz
21:29 byfar: the 1/2 sliders were for the background sounds right
21:30 ktgster: well i could say both
21:30 byfar: 01:18:891 (3,4,5,6) - for this ehh. i kinda prefer to move around the stack http://puu.sh/hNPd9/1f2b853e6a.jpg
21:30 byfar: more motion in this part
21:31 byfar: feels better for me
21:32 byfar: its the part b4 kiai too
21:32 byfar: stack feld kinda weird
21:32 ktgster: kk done
21:33 byfar: 01:30:714 (1) - ctrl+g?
21:33 byfar: idk i just thought the consistent spacing onto NC was a bit weird
21:33 ktgster: ehh, don't really want that reverse backwards flow
21:34 ktgster: idk why i did the 2 the way it is
21:34 byfar: ok
21:35 byfar: 01:35:479 (2,3) - align straight slider to the curved one?
21:37 ktgster: inb4 blanket comment
21:37 byfar: its fine as long as it flows i think
21:37 byfar: the curve right now suits the flow to straight sliders idk
21:38 ktgster: well i blanketed regardless
21:40 byfar: same as before 01:42:008 (1,2) - idk about this flow
21:40 byfar: like
21:41 byfar: the long curve is a strong emphasis so i think flowing it off would make it feel less weird
21:41 byfar: wtf am i talkinga bout anyways
21:41 ktgster: i wonder
21:41 byfar: anyhow i thought smth like this http://puu.sh/hNPHv/cb620d769f.jpg
21:41 byfar: like b4
21:41 byfar: is better
21:42 ktgster: kk done
21:42 ktgster: because why not
21:43 byfar: 02:34:508 (4) - yo
21:43 byfar: wheres hit sound on head
21:44 ktgster: yay for broken hitsounding
21:44 ktgster: i should get some time to recheck this
21:44 byfar: 02:39:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - should increase vol by like 10% or 15%
21:44 byfar: barely audiable
21:44 byfar: or rather, a big contrast
21:45 byfar: ok
21:45 byfar: 5 % or 10 % is enough
21:46 byfar: 02:56:390 - my AS extra for owntrolf got popped cuz of 5% sliders
21:47 ktgster: fixed
21:47 byfar: what about the drum clap section
21:48 ktgster: yeah fixed that too
21:49 byfar: 03:29:293 (1,2,3,4,5) - oi
21:49 byfar: pls dont touch
21:49 byfar: 1.05x ds
21:49 byfar: is good
21:49 ktgster: odam
21:50 byfar: 03:38:163 (7) - ????????????????????????
21:50 byfar: ends on white tick wtf
21:51 byfar: it should* end on the big white tick
21:51 ktgster: i hear it end at the red tick
21:51 byfar: theres still a 'T' sound
21:51 byfar: wtf
21:51 byfar: dont u hear the vocals
21:51 byfar: 03:39:728 -
21:51 ktgster: low quality speakers
21:51 byfar: nob
21:53 byfar: 04:27:467 (5) - 04:29:032 (6) - ???
21:53 byfar: these are different?
21:54 ktgster: yeah they are different
21:54 byfar: 04:30:337 (2,3,4,5) - and why doesnt this part have it too
21:54 ktgster: cuz song
21:55 byfar: 04:59:953 (1,2) -
21:55 byfar: yo
21:55 byfar: wheres ur signature double 1/4
21:55 byfar: 05:01:828 (2,3) - flow doesnt follow slider for some reason
21:56 byfar: 05:19:453 (10,11,1) - imo just stack
21:56 byfar: vocals start already here
21:56 ktgster: wait i had a signature 1/4 double?
21:57 ktgster: the heck?
21:57 byfar: jk memes
21:58 byfar: 05:55:266 (3,4,1,2) - i kinda thought this flowed badly
21:58 byfar: i had a jerky movement by 05:55:641 (1,2) -
21:58 ktgster: i think the lead on is better than the stack honestly
21:59 ktgster: also its easier to get into the buildup
21:59 ktgster: removed 4 for 05:55:266 -
21:59 byfar: if u did that 05:56:391 (3) - better make this a single 1/2
22:00 byfar: for consistency since ur following background sound
22:00 ktgster: 05:56:391 (3) - lyric here
22:00 byfar: o gg
22:02 byfar: 06:13:748 (4,5,1) - o stack leniency makes this ew
22:02 byfar: gg
22:02 byfar: ok
22:02 byfar: uh
22:02 byfar: i gtg sleep now
22:02 byfar: big test tmrw
22:02 byfar: Gnite
22:02 ktgster: you posting in fourm?
22:02 byfar: ya sure

Artorias_DELETED

Artorias_DELETED 2015-05-16T23:03:11+00:00

For GODDESS :

00:58:761 (1,2,3,4) - Stacked singles like this sound and feel better with the final vocal of that part of the song

like this

or this

01:02:302 (2,3,1) - This spacing is way too small even if it keeps consistent with the previous spacing

01:05:125 (2,3) - Same here, you need some more movement before the stream so it doesnt feel completely stale.

01:26:302 (4,5) - These two are much better unstacked

01:46:420 (1,2,3,4) - The section that starts with this one feel more spaced out than they should be (the patterns with other patterns, not the notes of the patterns) it felt kinda unnatural even though I can see why you would do that. It's just that the spacing on the entire section before is very much not warranting the increase in spacing that there is in this patterns.

02:32:566 (2) - While its consistent with previous mapping, this again is better if deleted completely

02:34:419 (3) - Same as above, delete this and make the slider match this one in length 02:33:714 (1) -

02:39:890 (4) - and 02:40:066 (5,6) - the 5 should be a jump as well as the 6, the spacing of the 4th note with the 5th doesn't seem OK

04:02:424 (4,5,6,7) - removing the triple from the slider end and making the 7th note a triple

something like this

I'd have done better to uninstall osu than mod a ktgster map, but here it is. I'll do the rest of the map later, calling it quits for tonight.

Axarious

Former osu! Champion: 2016

333 posts

Joined May 2013

Axarious 2015-05-26T04:18:30+00:00

General

short mod, couldn't really catch much this time. :0
current bg quality 10/10, 600 x 587?

Goddess

00:12:623 (3) - Remove whistle.
00:17:589 (3,4) - Remove whistle on (3), add whistle on slider (4)'s head, remove whistle on (4)'s tail.
01:42:538 (2) - To x:208 y:335 for 1.00x ds?
02:03:008 (4,5,6,7) - Perhaps a 1/2 slider instead?
03:29:293 (1) - To x:45 y:294 for 1.00x ds and a small overlap fix?
05:30:516 (6) - Drum sampleset for consistency?
05:31:266 (12) - Auto sampleset for consistency?
06:48:647 (5) - Perhaps on the white tick for this one because of the melody 06:47:991 (2,3,4) - ?

new bg?

ktgster

Elite Mapper

482 posts

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

ktgster 2015-06-01T03:31:48+00:00

Artorias

Artorias wrote:
For GODDESS :

00:58:761 (1,2,3,4) - Stacked singles like this sound and feel better with the final vocal of that part of the song - huh, so overmap to 1/2's, huh?

01:02:302 (2,3,1) - This spacing is way too small even if it keeps consistent with the previous spacing - how is it exactly small. The emphasize is okay as it is right now

01:05:125 (2,3) - Same here, you need some more movement before the stream so it doesnt feel completely stale. - I'm not even sure about this

01:26:302 (4,5) - These two are much better unstacked - placed 4 in a blanket

01:46:420 (1,2,3,4) - The section that starts with this one feel more spaced out than they should be (the patterns with other patterns, not the notes of the patterns) it felt kinda unnatural even though I can see why you would do that. It's just that the spacing on the entire section before is very much not warranting the increase in spacing that there is in this patterns. - I have no idea what this means honestly. The lead-in from the stream is more than enough to warrant the spacing increase and its hard to imagine players staling on that one section

02:32:566 (2) - While its consistent with previous mapping, this again is better if deleted completely - used a slider for the 1 instead

02:34:419 (3) - Same as above, delete this and make the slider match this one in length 02:33:714 (1) - this one, is too dominant. There's no point removing this note

02:39:890 (4) - and 02:40:066 (5,6) - the 5 should be a jump as well as the 6, the spacing of the 4th note with the 5th doesn't seem OK - 5 and 6 is meant to be a jump as it is emphasized. 4 and 5 is not emphasized hence the no jump

04:02:424 (4,5,6,7) - removing the triple from the slider end and making the 7th note a triple - keeping this until further reply. 5 is mapped to a sound and notes are emphasized on the vocals more than the instrumentals

I'd have done better to uninstall osu than mod a ktgster map, but here it is. I'll do the rest of the map later, calling it quits for tonight. - lol

Axarious

Axarious wrote:
General
short mod, couldn't really catch much this time. :0
current bg quality 10/10, 600 x 587? - fixed
Goddess
00:12:623 (3) - Remove whistle. -
00:17:589 (3,4) - Remove whistle on (3), add whistle on slider (4)'s head, remove whistle on (4)'s tail. - kept whistle on tail
01:42:538 (2) - To x:208 y:335 for 1.00x ds? - the heck happened here?
02:03:008 (4,5,6,7) - Perhaps a 1/2 slider instead? - done, except I kept note 7
03:29:293 (1) - To x:45 y:294 for 1.00x ds and a small overlap fix? - fixed
05:30:516 (6) - Drum sampleset for consistency? - ...
05:31:266 (12) - Auto sampleset for consistency? - I feel like redoing my 2013 hitsounds
06:48:647 (5) - Perhaps on the white tick for this one because of the melody 06:47:991 (2,3,4) - ? - undecided

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

2,144 posts

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Nathan 2015-06-12T00:31:58+00:00

IRC

16:44 sukiNathan: 07:04:132 (1) - yo try starting this on 1/12 pls
16:44 sukiNathan: to hit drum beat/piano
16:46 sukiNathan: or not hit it but, start on it
16:46 ktgster: 1/16 is better in that case
16:46 sukiNathan: okok
16:47 sukiNathan: 03:13:066 (11,1) - maybe have momentum change to emphasize
16:48 sukiNathan: instead of just a linear movement
16:49 ktgster: k used a 1.5x spacing
16:49 ktgster: and did an angle change
16:49 sukiNathan: 07:23:618 (4) - try a 1/4 slider and add another circle
16:49 sukiNathan: cause that red tick is pretty strong
16:52 ktgster: uhh
16:52 ktgster: im not sure if you can just use two triples
16:53 sukiNathan: 07:34:395 (2) - don't see why there's just a repeat here
16:53 sukiNathan: unless it's for recovery from the 1/3
16:53 ktgster: yeah recovery from the 1/3
16:53 sukiNathan: hm no NC though?
16:54 ktgster: don't think its really needed
16:54 sukiNathan: yeah I guess
16:54 ktgster: its not like we need 1 extra NC for one slider
16:57 sukiNathan: 08:25:382 (9) - http://puu.sh/iltNs/df112b83bb.jpg
16:57 sukiNathan: put a bit more emphasis on 08:25:570 (1) - 
16:57 ktgster: yeah... why not
16:58 sukiNathan: 08:38:882 (5,6,1) - space out to the left a tiny bit
16:58 sukiNathan: 08:39:257 (2) - accent this 
17:00 ktgster: yeah done
17:02 sukiNathan: 09:34:195 - hm why not increase volume a bit here
17:03 ktgster: k
17:04 sukiNathan: 09:48:445 (1) - I would use a 1/2 slider and circle here
17:04 sukiNathan: so the stronger vocals+whistle are clickable
17:06 ktgster: yay for 2013 mapping
17:06 ktgster: just copypasted
17:08 sukiNathan: 11:03:070 (3) - aaaa make that downbeat clickable
17:08 sukiNathan: 11:05:320 (3) - 1/2 slider and circle 
17:08 sukiNathan: there is something on red tick too
17:09 sukiNathan: 11:12:070 (3) - ^
17:11 sukiNathan: wtf
17:12 sukiNathan: I love how this song just randomly turns dnb ish at the end
17:12 ktgster: yeah cuz why not
17:14 sukiNathan: 10:50:695 (6) - 
17:14 sukiNathan: uhh
17:15 ktgster: isn't it great when 2013 mapping had stuff like this
17:15 sukiNathan: LOL
17:15 sukiNathan: man I love how aibat errors
17:15 sukiNathan: actually help now
17:16 sukiNathan: since it considers anything not 1/4 unsnapped
17:16 sukiNathan: I can find stuff like this easier
17:17 sukiNathan: do you have a metadata sauce
17:17 sukiNathan: to save me like 10 minutes
17:18 sukiNathan: wait jk this has been ranked before
17:18 ktgster: looool
17:19 sukiNathan: some unsnapped lines
17:19 sukiNathan: 00:40:347 - 
17:20 sukiNathan: 00:40:968 - 
17:20 sukiNathan: 00:41:382 - 
17:20 sukiNathan: 03:29:032 - 
17:22 ktgster: i blame timing
17:22 sukiNathan: the offset seems good to me
17:22 sukiNathan: but now I have to check time signatures too asdlglagshgasjkdf
17:23 ktgster: they're good
17:23 ktgster: plz
17:23 ktgster: unless you want my beginning to be 3/4
17:24 sukiNathan: yeah I was thinking that
17:24 sukiNathan: hm
17:24 sukiNathan: wait ima look at guy's timing
17:25 ktgster: 3/4 in the beginning
17:25 ktgster: doesn't have the 6x bpm parts
17:25 ktgster: and has no 155 bpm at the end
17:25 sukiNathan: ok I'd just use 3/4
17:26 sukiNathan: ok actually
17:26 sukiNathan: I have no idea LOL
17:27 sukiNathan: just go with w/e you want
17:27 ktgster: looool
17:27 sukiNathan: you better get
17:27 sukiNathan: a timing expert
17:27 sukiNathan: to check
17:27 sukiNathan: before I bubble
17:28 ktgster: too bad i know no one
17:28 ktgster: except myself
17:28 sukiNathan: lmao
17:28 sukiNathan: pishifat maybe
17:28 sukiNathan: actually
17:28 ktgster: lets see
17:29 sukiNathan: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1xqVHNi5V7wbym4DV1gebapU30SI-csHS9YYANuHV13g/viewform
17:29 sukiNathan: lol
17:29 ktgster: looool
17:29 sukiNathan: for referral
17:29 sukiNathan: put me
17:29 sukiNathan: because pishi loves me
17:29 sukiNathan: trust
17:30 ktgster: k submitting
17:30 sukiNathan: ok just call me when you get a check
17:31 sukiNathan: ima post log

will bubble after a timing check

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined August 2014

Nathan 2015-06-14T03:45:19+00:00

timing was checked by pishifat

ktgster

Elite Mapper

482 posts

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

ktgster 2015-06-14T03:46:22+00:00

In case anyone needs the log

log

18:20 pishifat: hi so
18:20 ktgster: hi
18:20 pishifat: only concerns are some things aorund 06:39:929 -
18:20 pishifat: sounds a lot better when lined up on the red tick of previous uninherited section
18:20 pishifat: just seems late as it is now
18:20 ktgster: hmm okay
18:20 pishifat: is there some reason you put that one later
18:21 ktgster: weird timing is really the reason why
18:21 pishifat: isee
18:21 pishifat: well it sounded better to me lined up with other sections idunno
18:22 pishifat: you also adjust it back to the "regular timing" at 07:03:729 -
18:22 pishifat: cuz they line up yeayea
18:22 pishifat: im not so sure about that one being just a measure of 1/3 tho since it just seems like you did that so the vocal could end on a downbeat
18:23 ktgster: well im not sure about that either
18:23 ktgster: the vocals seemed like they slowed down in that one section
18:23 pishifat: without sheet music i can't be sure of course, but it seems fine to just omit the 104 and 65bpm points and have the spinner start on 07:04:104 -
18:24 pishifat: either way thats what id have to say about it, id say the rest is fine
18:25 ktgster: okay
18:25 ktgster: updating
18:27 ktgster: thank you
18:27 pishifat: o yea if you wanted to have your spinner slow-down stuff at 07:04:104 - that would probably be fine
18:28 pishifat: either way it wouldnt make a difference in rankability though

ziin

2,632 posts

Joined January 2010

ziin 2015-06-16T05:22:49+00:00

06:39:917 - I'm not sure why you have a red timing section here.
06:40:104 - you're missing a red timing section here.
07:11:095 - FYI this whole section is 6/8 with a few 5/8 measures. not important. It's also much harder than the rest of the song. Like a lot harder. Mainly because it doesn't follow the music. The huge difficulty increase seems unrankable to me.

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2015-06-16T06:05:29+00:00

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAim done.
01:26:302 (4,5) - ctrl+g for flowww
04:24:076 (2,3) - might be me biting but lower 3 so that it alligns with 2
06:26:605 (1) - go allign this. i see everything

box1

07:18:085 - tthis is the part that will take the most souls. i guarantee it.
07:53:910 (5,6,7) - i think it would play better if you ctrl+g'd this.
08:17:132 (2,3) - make these the same direction (you know whati mean right?)
08:35:695 (4,5) - 08:36:632 (4,5,6) - 08:38:882 (5,6,1) - stab me, but this overlap looks horrid. fix pl0x?

10:30:445 (4,5) - cursor would enter much better to 5 first rather than 4. that said, ctrl+g.
10:35:320 (1,2,3) - equilateral triangle plzz
unrelated: 10:48:070 - 10:48:820 - 'shant' now thats a word i have no heard in a long time.
11:10:945 (6,7) - this is NOT a good idea, since youre already working with jumps and then this thing comes in. this is also very annoying to perform.
11:26:320 (2,4,5) - might be just me, but 5 seems like its further away to 2 than 4, also ctrl+g maybe? since for me it feels better :L <-- selfish
11:44:507 (2,3,4,5,6) - i feel like a curve stream would be more suitable for this situation
11:55:945 (3,1) - align this

box2

http://puu.sh/iqFxL/2394c7be0a.jpg

ktgster

Elite Mapper

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Topic Starter

ktgster 2015-06-16T18:24:25+00:00

ziin wrote:
06:39:917 - I'm not sure why you have a red timing section here. - to reset the stanzas
06:40:104 - you're missing a red timing section here. - unneeded due to previous point pointed above
07:11:095 - FYI this whole section is 6/8 with a few 5/8 measures. not important. It's also much harder than the rest of the song. Like a lot harder. Mainly because it doesn't follow the music. The huge difficulty increase seems unrankable to me. - removing the 206 bpm section drops the star rating to 4.79 and I personally think the difficulty balance is fine due to density of the song although I could tone down a few streams

Anxient

Anxient wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAim done.
01:26:302 (4,5) - ctrl+g for flowww - the jump from 5 to 1 ends up being twisted to play and a bit annoying if you change the flow to your suggestion
04:24:076 (2,3) - might be me biting but lower 3 so that it alligns with 2 - raising 2 higher instead
06:26:605 (1) - go allign this. i see everything - done
07:18:085 - tthis is the part that will take the most souls. i guarantee it. - who knows
07:53:910 (5,6,7) - i think it would play better if you ctrl+g'd this. - so basically, make a stream even more harder to play... nope
08:17:132 (2,3) - make these the same direction (you know whati mean right?) - nice pixel eye
08:35:695 (4,5) - 08:36:632 (4,5,6) - 08:38:882 (5,6,1) - stab me, but this overlap looks horrid. fix pl0x? - manually stacked
10:30:445 (4,5) - cursor would enter much better to 5 first rather than 4. that said, ctrl+g. - and an inconsistent 1/1 spacing appears
10:35:320 (1,2,3) - equilateral triangle plzz - fixed
unrelated: 10:48:070 - 10:48:820 - 'shant' now thats a word i have no heard in a long time.
11:10:945 (6,7) - this is NOT a good idea, since youre already working with jumps and then this thing comes in. this is also very annoying to perform. - no not really, but changed
11:26:320 (2,4,5) - might be just me, but 5 seems like its further away to 2 than 4, also ctrl+g maybe? since for me it feels better :L <-- selfish - yeah... it wouldn't matter in playing so...
11:44:507 (2,3,4,5,6) - i feel like a curve stream would be more suitable for this situation - nah
11:55:945 (3,1) - align this - okay

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined August 2014

Nathan 2015-06-16T18:26:58+00:00

rebub

Spaghetti

1,118 posts

Joined August 2014

Spaghetti 2015-06-18T14:03:44+00:00

- W A R N I N G -

IF YOU HEAR SOUND "READY" IN HIGHEST DIFF, PREPARE TO SINGLETAPPING ~~210~~ 217.5 BPM

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-06-22T03:28:52+00:00

Just some... IRC stuff

damn logs

2015-06-21 23:40 Yuii-: a
2015-06-21 23:41 ktgster: updating
2015-06-21 23:41 Yuii-: Disable Widescreen Support
2015-06-21 23:41 Yuii-: + delete that .osb file
2015-06-21 23:42 ktgster: k updated
2015-06-21 23:43 Yuii-: the .osb is still there buuut w/e
2015-06-21 23:43 ktgster: its not even here on my folder
2015-06-21 23:44 Yuii-: odd
2015-06-21 23:44 ktgster: http://puu.sh/ixXk2.jpg
2015-06-21 23:46 Yuii-: Probably they are all going to be suggestions
2015-06-21 23:46 ktgster: i even redownloaded and no .osb
2015-06-21 23:48 Yuii-: 00:24:002 (1,2) - considering the fact that your are using long sliders throughout the beginning of the map, I think that replacing this into 1 slider would fit better, from (1) to 00:24:830 - so there won't be an unnecessary waiting time before those triplets. Same for 00:28:968 (1,2) - e.g.
2015-06-21 23:48 Yuii-: 00:26:175 (8,9) - maybe delete these ones?
2015-06-21 23:49 ktgster: first point creates inconsistency
2015-06-21 23:49 ktgster: and 00:24:416 - wouldn't be hit at all with a click
2015-06-21 23:49 Yuii-: 00:34:347 (2,3,4,5,6) - kinda overmapped (imo), the only beats are located in the beginning and the end of the stream, a slider'd do it better
2015-06-21 23:49 Yuii-: That was I was thinking about, are I agree with you
2015-06-21 23:49 ktgster: i deleted 8 only
2015-06-21 23:49 Yuii-: maybe a reverse slider or so
2015-06-21 23:50 Yuii-: oki
2015-06-21 23:50 ktgster: that stream is following piano
2015-06-21 23:50 ktgster: im not sure why people call that overmapped
2015-06-21 23:50 Yuii-: it's a super tiny beat that's why maybe
2015-06-21 23:52 Yuii-: 00:53:795 (1) - why this slider sounds quite low when the beat is stronger that the previous circles? I... don't agree with this
2015-06-21 23:52 ktgster: i have no idea what you're talking about by sound
2015-06-21 23:52 Yuii-: 01:11:920 (10) - yo ktg, this is... so mean
2015-06-21 23:52 ktgster: they're the volume?
2015-06-21 23:53 ktgster: not really
2015-06-21 23:53 ktgster: same volume*
2015-06-21 23:53 Yuii-: I mean the hitsound sounds lower than all the others when the beat is stronger
2015-06-21 23:53 ktgster: besides, idk why you're complaining about 00:43:864 -
2015-06-21 23:54 ktgster: k switched drum to normal
2015-06-21 23:54 Yuii-: I'm not complaining about 43
2015-06-21 23:54 Yuii-: cool
2015-06-21 23:54 Yuii-: what about (10)? I mean... it's okay if you want to leave it, is a personal preference I have
2015-06-21 23:54 ktgster: keep
2015-06-21 23:54 ktgster: i see no reason why not to
2015-06-21 23:55 Yuii-: I wasn't talking of removing
2015-06-21 23:55 Yuii-: Just moving it a bit to the right
2015-06-21 23:55 Yuii-: some pixels
2015-06-21 23:56 ktgster: uhh huh
2015-06-21 23:56 Yuii-: 01:45:449 (4) - delete maybe?
2015-06-21 23:56 Yuii-: the stream fits better without that note
2015-06-21 23:57 Yuii-: 02:03:361 - adding something here wouldn't be better?
2015-06-21 23:58 Yuii-: 02:08:037 - same
2015-06-21 23:59 ktgster: uhh did you update?
2015-06-21 23:59 ktgster: note was already deleted
2015-06-21 23:59 Yuii-: 02:39:890 (4,5) - I was thinking of a triplet
2015-06-21 23:59 Yuii-: I did update
2015-06-21 23:59 Yuii-: m
2015-06-21 23:59 Yuii-: "Latest pending version" ya
2015-06-22 00:02 Yuii-: 04:32:945 (2) - NC? 04:34:511 (3) - 04:36:076 (4) - ?
2015-06-22 00:02 Yuii-: Maybe too nazy
2015-06-22 00:02 ktgster: they're connected
2015-06-22 00:02 ktgster: besides, theres no reason to NC spam on that part
2015-06-22 00:03 Yuii-: the reason could be due to amount of time for each note, I get that they are connected, but the accentuation changes a bit
2015-06-22 00:03 Yuii-: anyway, that was more like something personal
2015-06-22 00:03 ktgster: followpoints
2015-06-22 00:04 Yuii-: 05:24:141 - hey this is a great part
2015-06-22 00:05 Yuii-: question!
2015-06-22 00:06 Yuii-: 06:31:962 - up to this part, don't you think that increasing the volume per triplet would be nicer?
2015-06-22 00:07 ktgster: that really only applies here 06:36:891 -
2015-06-22 00:08 Yuii-: hmm it's okay, I just feel like it would have been something cool but as you want~
2015-06-22 00:11 Yuii-: 09:46:570 (4) - why a stack? feels quite weird to me, I don't know how to explain it properly, but mostly because you didn't stack (3) or (4) in the prev. pattern
2015-06-22 00:12 ktgster: welcome to 2013 style
2015-06-22 00:13 ktgster: because i don't know
2015-06-22 00:13 ktgster: but stacking 3 or 4 wouldn't work and since this is 2/1, i might as well stack
2015-06-22 00:14 Yuii-: alright
2015-06-22 00:16 Yuii-: 11:51:257 (3,4,1) - the spacing from (3) to (4) is almost the same one from (4) to (1) even though the beat from (1) is much more louder. Maybe moving (4) some pixels below would be better
2015-06-22 00:18 Yuii-: hey I'm bubbling this
2015-06-22 00:18 Yuii-: This map is great
2015-06-22 00:18 Yuii-: I don't give a shit about icons
2015-06-22 00:19 Yuii-: btw add this is the description
2015-06-22 00:19 Yuii-: IF YOU HEAR SOUND "READY" IN HIGHEST DIFF, PREPARE TO SINGLETAPPING 210 217.5 BPM
2015-06-22 00:19 ktgster: [http://puu.sh/ixZ6u.jpg maybe?]
2015-06-22 00:19 Yuii-: YES!
2015-06-22 00:19 Yuii-: That'd be perfect
2015-06-22 00:19 ktgster: brb adding that to description?
2015-06-22 00:19 Yuii-: how's the ds between 3-4 and 4-1?
2015-06-22 00:20 ktgster: Prev 1.73x, Next 2.14
2015-06-22 00:20 Yuii-: perfect
2015-06-22 00:21 ktgster: [http://puu.sh/ixZbd.png except]
2015-06-22 00:22 Yuii-: 07:18:085 - this isnt an unnecessary green line?
2015-06-22 00:22 Yuii-: you're using the same values than in the red tick
2015-06-22 00:22 ktgster: k there we go
2015-06-22 00:22 ktgster: set SV to 0.90x
2015-06-22 00:22 Yuii-: ah right
2015-06-22 00:23 Yuii-: 08:21:257 - ok this one it is
2015-06-22 00:24 ktgster: rip
2015-06-22 00:24 ktgster: updating
2015-06-22 00:24 ktgster: again
2015-06-22 00:24 Yuii-: 11:40:476 - aaand 11:40:476 -
2015-06-22 00:24 Yuii-: oh the ddddddouble line
2015-06-22 00:25 Yuii-: Alright that's all

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Spaghetti

1,118 posts

Joined August 2014

Spaghetti 2015-06-22T03:33:06+00:00

please rank so i can play it and fail and go eat a tub of ice cream in my bath tub

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-06-22T05:02:51+00:00

Spaghetti wrote:
please rank so i can play it and fail and go eat a tub of ice cream in my bath tub

BeatofIke

4,166 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2015-06-23T05:15:25+00:00

lol

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-07-02T10:16:59+00:00

AR +0.5
02:03:273 (5) - delete better
06:01:748 (2) - NC
06:01:748 (2) - same (^)
06:25:962 - note
09:58:195 - same (^)

ktgster

Elite Mapper

482 posts

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

ktgster 2015-07-03T00:47:47+00:00

HabiHolic

HabiHolic wrote:
AR +0.5 - +0.2 instead
02:03:273 (5) - delete better - k done
06:01:748 (2) - NC - removed last NC and added on NC for this
06:01:748 (2) - same (^) - uhh they're the same note?
06:25:962 - note - its too quiet to go with a note sadly
09:58:195 - same (^) - for consistency, I decided to not add a note here