Well people are certainly capable of ignoring certain posts and in Tuuba there was definitely occasions with two or more separate discussions going on in one thread. To be honest, I'm not sure if people unable to master this skill are people I care about preventing being alienated. But regardless, political discussions are few and far between and they're not stopping people from shitposting for 90% of the time. And the thing with the Tuuba community is you didn't have such a big dichotomy between shitposters/social posters and abstract economic theory posters (and that's really giving credit to the discussions we have here). We could actually have conversations about relevant and meaningful facets of daily life and the discussion was more often on a midpoint of intellectual stimulation rather than being on one of the two extremes we have here.Railey2 wrote:
Yeah, if you open a thread and see two pages of politics in a clearly heated discussion, the probability of you dropping a lighthearted comment inbetween is exactly the same as if you open a thread where everyone is just chatting away, light-heartedly. I don't think so.B1rd wrote:
Yes, by the mere act of posting something we're oppressing other people and stopping them posting about what they want to post about, exactly the same as banning people and deleting posts. Right. Impeccable logic.
Don't pretend like politics doesn't alienate a good part of the userbase, and I'm not arguing that we should stop going on about politics, but at least be honest here.
ANYWAY
I get it, you feel like you got treated unfairly, and maybe that is true or maybe it is not. I can't really tell, as I'm not willing to go on tuuba to check, but I can tell you one thing: Your attitude is off the fucking rails. That's what my post was mainly about, whether or not you were treated unfairly on tuuba, you CLEARLY have a lot to sort out regardless. If you ask me, you need to spend some more time with people and learn how to get along instead of reading questionable articles about macroeconomics and systems of governance.
I am sure that this issue was something that could have been figured out with some PMs (the right PMs), but instead you do this:Do you listen to yourself sometimes? Jesus Christ man.B1rd wrote:
I realise that IppE never cared about being consistent with his rules, all he wanted to do was white knight and "protect" the precious snowflakes you and Granger from the danger of memes and mockery because obviously you can't handle it. Although, obviously when you attack and insult Trash Boat, that's a different story because people don't like Trash Boat? You fucking hypocrite. Go back to your hole. IppE has degree of logical retardation on the level of feminists, and that's apparent from having discussions with him. He doesn't have the mental faculties needed to be in charge of anything.
Tuuba is just a small forum with people that try to get along, yeah? Meanwhile, this is what you have to say about it:I've said it before and I'm going to say it again: You're living in your own crazy world. Step out of it sometime, see that whoever you're talking to is a person as well. Sometimes they get annoyed, sometimes they lash out, and if you treat them well they will probably get along with you.B1rd wrote:
To have well-functioning system of governance of any kind, it is essential to have impartiality as a corner stone, and this was not present in Tuuba.
Not everything has to be seen through the lense of theoretical, detached and convoluted sociological theory. Just try to be a bit more normal, yeah?
I'm not crazy just because I'm slightly more preoccupied with abstract ideals than normal and actually use them to influence my day-to-day behaviour rather than keeping it at the ballot box. If anything, my experiences on Tuuba just show the necessity of a solid set of ideals. Take free speech: whenever there is talk about any complicated or controversial issues, a degree of conflict is unavoidable. Thus there must be a system in place that protects the speech of the minority from the majority, i.e. free speech, so that it doesn't quickly devolve into a tyranny of the majority where dissent is not tolerated. That is true for both society and a forum where you want to have a high standard of discussion. So I think abstract ideals have a very prominent role to play in making society, internet communities or whatever a better place. Of course you can argue specifics but that's a simplified overview. And really, for tyranny to flourish it's necessary for morality, ideals and philosophy to be corrupted or for there to be a lack of those things in the first place. And you may think I'm being melodramatic by constantly bringing up tyranny, but I'm not. What I said about the necessity of ideals to ward off tyranny is true and factual, and it was less than a century ago where tens of millions of people died because of tyranny. So no, I don't think it's wrong to be concerned about abstract things, or make a big deal over seemingly small things for the sake if ideals. Just read the Gulag Archipelago.
I also don't know how you can say it's normal for people to lash out and then demonise me for getting angry. Getting angry a year after the fact isn't the reason for the problem, and regardless if I ability to post constantly relies on my ability to butter other people up, then that's a place that I don't want to be in in the first place. And maybe I'm not human enough to be able to tell, but is basically getting ejected from a community you've been part of for a number of years not a cause for someone to be angry? Just think of it as me injecting some humanity in what would otherwise no doubt be a robotic and monotonous tone. No I'm not particularly extraverted or agreeable towards other people, but not everyone needs to be. Different personalities have different pros/cons. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with me. (and trust me I have plenty of things wrong with me, but it's not in regard to what we've been talking about.)
As a last note, I've been up for a while so my posting may be somewhat more incoherent than normal.