B1rd wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2431924

"There is no evidence of an overall increase in congenital malformations among babies born to teenagers."

So yes it is normal for men, even older men, to be attracted to 15 or 16 year old girls who've gone through puberty.

Foxtrot wrote:

yeah but this doesn't even mention older women having higher chances of birth defects either, which is what you claimed. in fact, at one point this study suggested that teenagers have a harder time giving birth due to lower weight and undeveloped body. here, have a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_and_female_fertility

"After puberty, female fertility increases and then decreases, with advanced maternal age causing an increased risk of female infertility."

it also mentions that fertility is at its peak during a woman's 20s because that's when their puberty ends. at one point you said that

So yes it is normal for men, even older men, to be attracted to 15 or 16 year old girls who've gone through puberty.

which is not true at all. some girls don't even start their periods at that age. you've gone through your puberty once you hit your early 20s, but at that age they're actually at their peak of puberty.

B1rd wrote:

It doesn't matter if teenagers haven't finished puberty yet, they have most of their secondary sex characteristics, and are reproductively viable, and these are the things that are important for attractiveness.

B1rd wrote:

Do you make it a point to be antagonistic about everything? Go vent your self-righteous moral outrage somewhere else.

But it isn't particularly important that teenagers are more fertile than women in their 20s, because it is sufficient to back up my point that they are simply capable of reproduction

The point is, there is nothing abnormal for men to merely be attracted to girls 15+.

[And yet that claim isn't even backed up by any sources in wikipedia, so it's null and void.

Foxtrot wrote:

thanks for stating the obvious. and also you seemed pretty fixated on fertility so that's why i pointed it out. oh, and by that logic, you'd probably think it's okay for men to go as low as 12 as long as they're capable of reproduction because it seems like nowadays the average age for first period is 12

http://www.obgyn.net/sexual-health/firs ... ical-signs

and you know, that's kind of awful

The point is, there is nothing abnormal for men to merely be attracted to girls 15+.

15 year old girls have such baby faces. they all look like kids. i would be really concerned if someone who's 25 was attracted to such.

And yet that claim isn't even backed up by any sources in wikipedia, so it's null and void.

do you really need a source on biological clock lol c'mon

Aurani wrote:

I'm willing to bet my ass that you're younger than 20 so you claim that. Of course a 15yo will be attractive to someone barely out of puberty.

Milkshake wrote:

johnmedina999 wrote:

Nice sig Maho

B1rd wrote:

The problem with incest is it produces babies with birth defects. But there is nothing immoral about having an incestuous relationship if the couple doesn't have a baby, even if it may be a bit creepy.

DaddyCoolVipper wrote:

B1rd wrote:

The problem with incest is it produces babies with birth defects. But there is nothing immoral about having an incestuous relationship if the couple doesn't have a baby, even if it may be a bit creepy.

Many people feel that incest is immoral even without pregnancy being involved, i.e. using protection or same-sex relationships. They can't usually argue why such a thing would be immoral, though.


(The reason is the power dynamic creates an inherent problem with establishing consent, which seems to be a topic that mr B1rd doesn't understand, so that conversation isn't exactly gonna go anywhere)

Comfy Slippers wrote:

The best part about screwing twenty six year olds is that there's 20 of them.

Comfy Slippers wrote:

The best part about screwing twenty six year olds is that there's 20 of them.

RoseusJaeger wrote:

@B1rd you're referring to Ephebophilia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

That still doesn't mean that fucking a 15 year-old is ok just because they've completed puberty. They can't really consent to a relationship with someone of 18 or older because of brain development as well.

In the US, the age of consent is 18 but it really should be 21 because physiologically the human brain isn't developed until your 20s because of the frontal lobe (which controls decision making and logical judgement)

In regards to pedophilia, if you're sexually attracted to a drawn character that looks 12 that is different than actually being attracted to real girls. However, it can be a warning sign for those who are mentally ill and are pedophiles. Just saying, you wanna be careful and not become a disgusting pedophile.

Milkshake wrote:

Raspberriel, initial UR hanayo is the saddest UR ever. no one will recover her spaghetti hands.

also B1rd, yes, it is a nice graph. I wish I didn't lose the source though

SPOILER

Madvillain wrote:

i hate kids

lol wrote:

cmon bro ur literally handing someone a 'but ur a kid urself' meme on a silver platter and they arent exactly wrong either

Aurani wrote:

Why wasn't the earthquake right below Villain's house? Gods, why must you punish me so?