but how can a loli be overrated I don't understandAurani wrote:
Illya is an incredibly good source of plot cannon fodder! I personally prefer her F/SN death, as it's got more faux tragedy in it and well, my waifu Gil is directly involved in it.
Death to the overrated shit loli.
http://chocolate.loli.dance/Railey2 wrote:
but how can a loli be overrated I don't understand
I mean look at her dance
look
LOOK AT HER, AURANI
Wait, we were friends? When? How? Where?Brian OA wrote:
Our friendship has ended
It was nice associating with you
its the 18th you fool. you dunce. you numbskull.slandotski wrote:
uhhh...... merry christmas?
every mapper should be able to do this and it should happen all the time until the ones that habitually unrank shit realize their garbo opinions are unwanted and quitMahogany wrote:
I think the whole staff and ranking system is seriously fucked I mean the fact that certain mappers can say an outright "no" to almost all of a QAT's suggested improvements after a DQ and then the map gets rebubbled and ranked with no issue
EneT wrote:
Little girls don't have curvaceous bodies.
I thought you hated lolis? Did I miss something or I am just remembering wrong?Aurani wrote:
I'm going to Hell for this, but who the fuck cares, as long as it's Illya. =D
Here we see why Illya loved her dad so much.
If you're talking about Luerxa's version that one is still up, still gives a bunch of pp, still is garbogexxjesus1412fanx wrote:
the last time i can remember an unranking being fair was probably when that ridiculous koigokoro map got taken down..
That is not how shit gets done in this worldRailey2 wrote:
Instead, just treat them like people
There surely have been instances where questionable decisions have been made, but what many forget is that this is to be expected. This is a field where objective judgment is pretty much impossible. Especially when QATs hold perfections as their own standard, things might take a little longer.Mahogany wrote:
I know members of the QAT only have good intentions, but the system is still deeply flawed. I'd say anyone would have a right to get annoyed and angry if their map got disqualified 6 times, and their reactions would be totally justified. QATs are supposed to be professionals, and they should catch all the issues preventing ranking within 1 or two DQs, and not take 6!
And, in my opinion, it's pretty bullshit that certain mappers can outright refuse to change quite a few things that a QAT has told them to, and get the map ranked anyway. Shouldn't QATs only be disqualifying maps if there's actually a problem that needs to be fixed, and not something they're willing to let slide when pressed?
Way to go, quoting me out of context. I don't promote this as a godlike solution for everything, so your response misses the point completely. And besides, osu is not "this world". It is a pretty isolated and well regulated system, so you are in fact missing the point twice.Kaienyuu wrote:
That is not how shit gets done in this worldRailey2 wrote:
Instead, just treat them like people
the problem is the system is redundant and superfluous.. we already have BN's that can only execute their powers with objective reasons, they cannot simply 'opinion' a map into being ranked. They need to make sure ranking criteria's are met. This is the imbalance of power present, they don't operate on the same rules, they can just say "unplayable" and that's it, all the hard work and collaboration and making sure criteria are met swept aside because hur dur. I don't see why there needs to be another layer of bullshit over an already difficult system to push maps through. May as well tell the BN's they're incompetent and that peppy has no faith in them. Get rid of them altogether and make the QAT do everything, then immediately bring back the BN's because nothing got done while they were gone.Railey2 wrote:
I think what is truly wrong with the whole QAT vs. mappers thing is, that everyone here seems to accept the premise that it has to be "vs."
The ranking-process should not be about pushing your will through against QATs, but about reaching a compromise. The compromise should be based on the understanding that opinions on quality differ, but that the conjoint effort of both QATs and mappers will lead to a better result in most cases. The same should be true from the QATs perspective: They shouldn't just force their opinions on the mappers, but act with the aforementioned idea in mind.
I've seen people antagonize the QATs everywhere, and who knows in some cases they might have been justified in doing so. Maybe some QATs are biased and unfair towards certain mappers. However, I know for sure that many mappers have publicly been proper assholes towards QATs and their work, calling them corrupt, twisted and whatnot. I refuse to believe that the QAT is a community made of children that are on an embarrassing power-trip together, who deserve treatment like that.
Maybe stop introducing and then fortifying the idea that it has to be an "us vs. them". If you do that consistently, they will eventually adopt the idea and act accordingly. Stop making up sides like this is a battle or a war.
Instead, just treat them like people and give credit to them for the work that they are doing instead of acting all up-stuck and self-righteous. Because THAT certainly isn't helping. It just makes you a pain to deal with.
People are a lot more willing to make a compromise if you are nice to them. I hope, in the end we just all want to contribute to this game in one way or another.
I've seen a map get DQed with one of the stated reasons being "You only have 1 page of low quality mods"Railey2 wrote:
There surely have been instances where questionable decisions have been made, but what many forget is that this is to be expected. This is a field where objective judgment is pretty much impossible. Especially when QATs hold perfections as their own standard, things might take a little longer.
I'd rather slander an entire group than single out and target individuals. Not to mention doing that would probably get me silenced. Slandering a single person would probably be flaming, and unfair towards them.Railey2 wrote:
Of course there are double standards, and it is important and fair to address them when they become visible. It is not fair to slander a whole team for the things that go wrong, while ignoring all the things that go right.
But the only way problems get fixed is if people complain about them enough. That's why I'm complaining. It'll never be perfect, but it can improve.Railey2 wrote:
am not denying that there are problems with the system. I am unsure if there can be a system without problems when it comes to this, because in the end.. we'll always have to leave the ranking process up to human jurisdiction.
If it's on terms purely of "Being helpful and friendly" I believe they should either:Railey2 wrote:
If a QAT came up to me and said: "hey I have some ideas for this to make it better, lets disqualify it for a while and think this over", I'd have absolutely no problem with that. Even if there is no actual problem with the map and it could technically be ranked.
thx m8 I do it that all the timeRailey2 wrote:
Way to go, quoting me out of context.
Kaienyuu wrote:
thx m8 I do it that all the time
i bet hw gives good headB1rd wrote:
QAT think that they're hot shit and that their opinions should be law. Only a few mappers like Hollow Wings have been able to beat them.
It sounded like you hated her so much that you wanted to rape herAurani wrote:
But I displayed nothing BUT hatred towards Illya in that post... I mean I pretty much pulled a scene out of context where Illya compares Berserker's dick to her father's. Can't get any worse than that.
my reading comprehension isn't goodI bet she would add unnecessary motions since she seems to love thoseKaienyuu wrote:
i bet hw gives good headB1rd wrote:
QAT think that they're hot shit and that their opinions should be law. Only a few mappers like Hollow Wings have been able to beat them.
You can't act dumb; especially not after sharing an intimate relationshipAurani wrote:
Wait, we were friends? When? How? Where?Brian OA wrote:
Our friendship has ended
It was nice associating with you
I'm going to Hell for this, but who the fuck cares, as long as it's Illya. =DI mean, I'd understand if we were talking about Kaleid Liner's Ilya
Here we see why Illya loved her dad so much.
EneT wrote:
Little girls don't have curvaceous bodies.
SayoriKirigaya wrote:
EneT wrote:
Little girls don't have curvaceous bodies.
Aurani wrote:
Don't worry, we are definitely friends - although you seem to not like to poke me very much, mongrelic mutt.
Nah, nothing is wrong with her - was just having fun at her expense. The real problem lies in the people who "love" her, or her fandom, in other words. She, alongside Rin, has one of THE most cancerous fandoms around, on par with some of Touhou's characters. She's FAR too overrated in that regard, but otherwise okay in most other aspects.
The reason I didn't poke fun at Rin is because I quite like her initial character - the one before she inexplicably falls in love with Emiya (probably due to his overbearing intelligence :V) and gets boned. She was a pretty solid character at first and I respected her for that, but Illya's good points are overshadowed by the immeasurably cancerous fandom that I want no part of. She's pretty much fucking Cirno of Fate.
I don't even want to HEAR of Kaleid. FUCK that show and FUCK everything about it. I didn't even want to touch the torrent of that shit, let alone buy a copy. It doesn't deserve my money.
I often find myself lying awake at night thinking about how I popularised this phrase in a circle of grown men with anime girl avatarsA Medic wrote:
God Bless
SaigonAlice wrote:
A Medic wrote:
God Bless
I often find myself lying awake at night thinking about how I popularised this phrase in a circle of grown men with anime girl avatars
