This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 2:48:43 PM

Artist: UI-70
Title: Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix
Source: Touhou 7 - Perfect Cherry Blossom
Tags: Touhou, Phantom Ensemble, UI-70
BPM: 158.22
Filesize: 3764kb
Play Time: 03:11
Difficulties Available:

1. Insane (4.94 stars, 442 notes)
2. x3ns0r's Phantom (4.41 stars, 331 notes)
3. Xgor's Easy (2.7 stars, 72 notes)

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Wee, another Touhou song! Here UI-70 does a remix of Phantom Ensemble from the fight against the Prismriver Sisters in PCB Stage 4. This is my first map and I'm working on it with my good friend Cillu.


Update June 26th:
BPM/Offset check. Cillu and I have been working on this beatmap and as we have progressed through it Cillu has raised the question as to if the offset is not right. If anyone could check and let us know the apporiate BPM/Offset we would apperciate it!

Update July 2nd:
-Fixed overlapping sliders on [Insane] that magically appeared.
-Added different volumes are different intervals at 1:22 as suggested by Xensor.
-Changed Slider Velocity to 1.80 with 2 ticks from .80 with 1 tick.
-Redid a few parts leading up to the 2nd break.
-Fixed some combos in the beginning.

Update July 3rd:
-Added x3ns0r's Phantom Difficulty.
-Changed HP Drain up by two nodes and Overall Difficulty down 1 node.
-Finished [Insane] Difficulty.
-Added background to x3ns0r's Phantom Difficulty and Insane.

Update July 4th: Happy 4th of July? :X *cheese*.
-Changed Overall Difficulty by two nodes on x3ns0r's Phantom difficulty.
-Added storyboard names for mappers part on Insane difficulty (Thank you to x3ns0r for doing this!).
-Fixed changes suggested by Starrodkirby86 and Mafiamaster (Thanks you two!)

Update July 5th:
-All changes made on Insane difficulty.
-Updated changes on x3ns0r's difficulty.
-Worked on pattern at 02:13:618 - 02:16;083. Keep it? :S

Update July 6th:
-Added PandaCath's changes.
-New background!
-Added some hitsounds to Insane...

July 10th:
Sorry, I'm kind of busy away fromt he computer. Will try to keep updates comming asap.
-Offset changed according to awp.
-Applied changes suggest by Shinxyn. Resnapped notes to 1/4 (thanks to x3ns0r).
-Applied hitsound changes suggested by Shinxyn.
-Applied changes suggested by eee on [Insane].

BPM seems fine.
Make the offset 340.

And I think Normal sound @ ~50% volume sounds better, but that's just my opinion.

Awesome! Thanks! Gave it a run and feels better. Any tips on finding the offset better? It seems I can always get the BPM even without a program but never the offset. Also, I recently changed the speed of the approach circle and the circle of the notes (making them larger). That wouldn't require change in the offset you suggested would it?

Also, I recently changed the speed of the approach circle and the circle of the notes (making them larger). That wouldn't require change in the offset you suggested would it?

Nope, that won't require a change in offset.

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Thanks! Phantom Ensemble is awesome, probably one of my favorite stage songs.Yeah it happened the other night while doing something to the map, not sure what happened! Going to fix, finish the end of the song and re-up that tonight! hard (might change to insane) is almost done! Also going to be changing slider velocity since its so slowwwww

ok went over it and changed some stuff i think needed to be changed

take a lot of work from u guys

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [Hard].osu

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Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [x3ns0r's Phantom].osu

extended my diff > Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [x3ns0r's Phantom].osu

place this bg with it please :-D

font's for sb


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cillu's part for the SB

4,3,1,"cil.png",320,240
 M,0,106127,106885,802,427,518,430
 F,0,106127,106885,0,1
 F,0,106885,166131,1
 F,0,166131,166794,1
 F,0,166794,167552,1,0

Storyboarded osu file

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [Insane].osu

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [x3ns0r's Phantom].osu

If you're going to use the SB up there, I suggest Cillu's name needs to correctly spelled first (Unless that's some nickname xD)

[x2ns0r's Phantom]:
Add more lead-in time.
00:13:23 (4,5,6,7) - Move (4) and friends farther away.
00:17:21 (x) - Add beat here? Readjust break if so.
01:18:82 (x) - Add beat here?
01:29:25 (1) - What's with the blank spot after this slider? >_>
01:46:88 (1) - Lower the volume in this particular inherited timing section? You can always make a new inherited timing section to keep this sort of volume for that rock bit.
02:52:29 (1,2,3) - Straighten with (4) and (5) perhaps?
02:54:37 (8,9) - Straighten this with (6) and (7)?

[Insane]:
Inherit your timing sections if all it is are just audio changes. To do so, go to Timing Setup Panel.
00:27:26 (2,3,1,2,3) - Having a spacing change like this can get disorienting. I'm not going to point future inconsistencies like this though.
01:17:12 (1) - What's this new combo doing here?
02:12:29 (2) - Stack under slider endpoint?
02:28:97 (12) - New combo.
02:46:69 (1) - Illegal spinners. Rankable spinners should be at least 2000'd by Auto. It's not so bad since it's 1000, but it's really dicky.

Needs an easier difficulty. It can be 3.5 stars. If you're not willing to make, call me.

Needs more hitsounds too. And sex

Star~

Phmaton~

1. 01:11:81 (7) - New combo.
2. 01:12:00 (1) - Remove new combo.
3. 01:53:71 (1,2,3) - Suggestion: Stack these with 4, 5, and 6.
4. 02:25:94 (6) - New combo.
5. 02:26:32 (1) - Remove new combo.
6. 02:28:59 (x) - Suggestion: Add a beat here.
7. 03:08:78 (1,1,1,1,1) - Seems rushed, rofl!!
8. Another suggestion: Lower the overall volume of the notes.

Insane~

1. 00:44:51 (1,2,3,4) - Space these correctly.
2. 01:28:83 (1) - Shorten this to the white tick.
3. 01:33:99 (4) - Redo break after slider.
4. 02:09:25 (9) - New combo.
5. 02:13:61 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - Suggestion: Clusterfuuuuuck!!! Nah, I don't know but maybe make this more readable.
6. 02:38:73 (1) - Remove new combo
7. 02:39:21 (8) - Nuu combo
8. 02:41:96 (4) - Stack under 3 along with the rest of the combo. (Or at least most of it)

Doing great! Maybe... ;_;

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

If you're going to use the SB up there, I suggest Cillu's name needs to correctly spelled first (Unless that's some nickname xD) aha yes this is fixed ^^;

[x2ns0r's Phantom]:
Add more lead-in time.
00:13:23 (4,5,6,7) - Move (4) and friends farther away.
00:17:21 (x) - Add beat here? Readjust break if so.
01:18:82 (x) - Add beat here?
01:29:25 (1) - What's with the blank spot after this slider? >_>
01:46:88 (1) - Lower the volume in this particular inherited timing section? You can always make a new inherited timing section to keep this sort of volume for that rock bit.
02:52:29 (1,2,3) - Straighten with (4) and (5) perhaps?
02:54:37 (8,9) - Straighten this with (6) and (7)?

[Insane]:
Inherit your timing sections if all it is are just audio changes. To do so, go to Timing Setup Panel. Fixed~
00:27:26 (2,3,1,2,3) - Having a spacing change like this can get disorienting. I'm not going to point future inconsistencies like this though. Not really sure what you mean? :S You mean how it changes from vertical (1, 2) to horizontal (3) back to vertical (1, 2) etc? If so will fix that once you confirm that what you mean ^^
01:17:12 (1) - What's this new combo doing here?
02:12:29 (2) - Stack under slider endpoint? fixed
02:28:97 (12) - New combo. Fixed. Made the 3 sliders at end new combos too.
02:46:69 (1) - Illegal spinners. Rankable spinners should be at least 2000'd by Auto. It's not so bad since it's 1000, but it's really dicky. Took out spinner, put in a note at 02:24:79 and slider from 2:47:17 - 2:47:36

Needs an easier difficulty. It can be 3.5 stars. If you're not willing to make, call me. Sure! ^^;

Needs more hitsounds too. And sex Will work on this once timing and such is clean ^^;

Star~

Phmaton~

* 01:11:81 (7) - New combo.
* 01:12:00 (1) - Remove new combo.
* 01:53:71 (1,2,3) - Suggestion: Stack these with 4, 5, and 6.
* 02:25:94 (6) - New combo.
* 02:26:32 (1) - Remove new combo.
* 02:28:59 (x) - Suggestion: Add a beat here.
* 03:08:78 (1,1,1,1,1) - Seems rushed, rofl!!
* Another suggestion: Lower the overall volume of the notes.


Insane~

* 00:44:51 (1,2,3,4) - Space these correctly. Fixed
* 01:28:83 (1) - Shorten this to the white tick. Fixed
* 01:33:99 (4) - Redo break after slider. Redone
* 02:09:25 (9) - New combo. Newed!
* 02:13:61 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - Suggestion: Clusterfuuuuuck!!! Nah, I don't know but maybe make this more readable.Will fix ^^; I agree, I blame Cillu's craftyness getting the better of him! Fixed
* 02:38:73 (1) - Remove new combo POOF, Gone!
* 02:39:21 (8) - Nuu combo Nuued!
* 02:41:96 (4) - Stack under 3 along with the rest of the combo. (Or at least most of it) Moved, but not sure if you meant keep them going down diagonal like that. Should maybe go to the left? x_X


Doing great! Maybe... ;_; Thanks.. maybe.. tehehehehe

Thanks guys! Made the changes to insane, will fix the changes to x3ns0r's phantom or at least pass them on to x3n0r when I get back later!

00:27:26 (2,3,1,2,3) - Having a spacing change like this can get disorienting. I'm not going to point future inconsistencies like this though. Not really sure what you mean? :S You mean how it changes from vertical (1, 2) to horizontal (3) back to vertical (1, 2) etc? If so will fix that once you confirm that what you mean ^^

This is off the top of my head, but I believe around the beginning of the song, before that part, you set a type of spacing. That player will assume that this 'distance snapping' will be used, and will time accordingly towards it, especially in a sight read. When you have that one inconsistent combo, (Like...I believe they were 1/1 notes being in a 1/2 distance), the player might actually think this was a 1/2 stream and trip up on it.

Something like that. :S

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1/2 = Timing Rhythm of an 8th.

00:20:07 (1,2,3) - Look at this spacing.
00:26:88 (1,2,3) - Look at this spacing.

See a difference? o:

It's way easier once I look at the map...sorry.

(no kds here)

Ahh, MUCH more sense now ^^; Will fix that tonight, thanks!

applied Starrodkirby's changes

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [x3ns0r's Phantom].osu

Okay Starrodkirby, changed those things. Want to make sure that's what you meant? I'm pretty sure it is ^^;. If you see any i missed that are still spaced improperly let me know. I'm going to go through again to make sure it's right.

[Overall]
Nice map. Only things I can obviously point out are changes below and more hitsounds.

[Insane]
00:33:51 (1) - Seems like it's mapped to thin air... maybe should end at 00:34:086
01:22:62 (1) to 01:25:46 (8) - I know the crescendo is kinda cool, but it kinda irked me @_@
01:33:85 (3,4) - these two were troubling me a bit, but i can't pinpoint where they're a bit off
01:51:45 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't like the way this is stacked
02:13:61 (1,1,1,1,1) - I'm sure you really don't need all these new combos @_@
03:08:78 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Ummm. imo, i don't like this, and I think you could be a little more creative. Your choice though :O

[Phantom]
00:38:35 (13) - I -think- you need another beat after this

NEXT DAY EDIT: Where'd the Background in Insane go? Also, why do the two modes have different titles?

[Insane]
00:21:76 (6) - Take off the clap, use Finish
00:25:36 (2,4) - Only clap these
00:26:31 (7) - Finish
00:39:77 (2) - Take off clap
00:41:29 (2) - take off clap
00:42:80 (2) - ^
00:43:37 (1,1,2,1,2,3,4) - OTL Finish spamming... Take off the ones in 00:43:37 (1) and 00:44:51 (1,2,3,4) - but leave the last beat in 4 with a finish. (in the timeline, first get rid of the overall finish on that slider, then double click the last note and add a finish to that only)
00:44:98 (3) - one grid up level 3
00:57:78 (1) - 01:10:29 (1) - This section is too loud compared to the music, tone down the hitsounds
01:11:05 (3) - take the clap off
01:14:08 (3) - ^
01:21:10 (1) - ^
01:28:68 (1) - this should end at 01:32:478
01:33:99 (4) - maybe finish this on the last beat
01:46:90 (1,1,1) - Take off new combos
01:50:69 (1) - this too
01:53:73 (1,1) - ^
02:38:45 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - get rid of the claps
02:44:32 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - clapspam @_@ take some of them out
03:11:81 (5) - finish

[Phantom]
00:51:90 (1) - waaaay too loud dude, tone the volume down all the way until 01:09:91 (1), and even that could be a little softer
01:26:03 (1) - doesn't seem to start or end at the right places
01:32:47 (1) - ends at 01:33:236
01:34:75 (1) - take off new combo
01:58:64 (1) - maybe make this go back to normal soundset from here on
02:32:76 (1,1) - take off new combos
02:43:00 (1) - ^
02:45:27 (1,1,1) - ^
02:57:22 (1,1,1) - ^
03:06:51 (1,1) - ^
03:09:54 (1,1,1,1) - ^

I'm done now. D:

x3ns0r's Phantom needs to tune down the accurcy a LOT! it has panfully high right now!
but the song is awsome and i give it a star!

PandaCath wrote:

[Overall]
Nice map. Only things I can obviously point out are changes below and more hitsounds.

[Insane]
00:33:51 (1) - Seems like it's mapped to thin air... maybe should end at 00:34:086 Fixed
01:22:62 (1) to 01:25:46 (8) - I know the crescendo is kinda cool, but it kinda irked me @_@ Hmm, I'll keep it in and get some more reviews on this part, think I'll keep it for now :p
01:33:85 (3,4) - these two were troubling me a bit, but i can't pinpoint where they're a bit off Yeah I'm having a hard time getting this timed right. I miight just take that 1,2,3,4 part off if I can't find a fix.....
01:51:45 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't like the way this is stacked Removed stacked (3, 4, 5) and put 2 above 1
02:13:61 (1,1,1,1,1) - I'm sure you really don't need all these new combos @_@ Changed to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
03:08:78 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Ummm. imo, i don't like this, and I think you could be a little more creative. Your choice though :O Yersh I got a bit lazy lol Once I get some hitsounds fixed perhaps I'll go back and see what I came come up with

[Phantom]
00:38:35 (13) - I -think- you need another beat after this

OTL I'll continue this tomorrow I'm getting kicked off T_T Star'd

Thanks! Look forward to more critiquing tomorrow !

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[Insane]
02:20:25 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Make this a stream instead of a stack


I'm gonna mod it more fully after you finish it up a bit, also gonna gonna try out x3ns0r's Phantom.

Random map picked from #mod
Offset+ 12

x3ns0r's- wow... overall diff is painfully high for this map...
00:00:71 (3) - down a tick (straighten line)
00:03:37 (3,4) - down a tick (center from 1,2)
00:20:24 (2) - remove the finish here please~
01:11:24 (6) - make this a Beizer slider instead?
01:53:71 (1,2,3) - place directly under fading notes?
02:40:35 (5,6) - ugly spacing... cuz the 5 won't go any higher off the editor's grid, have it go somewhere else?
02:42:24 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - use copy-paste-horizontal/vertical flip if you want this part to look nicer
I don't like the ending at all! if your ganna end like that, just end with 02:59:68's spinner
Start lacks hitsounds,but only add a few whistles please?
The song had lots of places where finish hitsounds would have fit-
00:21:76 (6) - 00:23:27 (4) - 00:24:79 (4) - 00:25:55 (6) - (last beat of slider) 00:27:82 (3,6,9) - 00:42:99 (1) -
01:12:76 (5) - 01:16:55 (1) - (start of slider only) 02:56:46 (1) - 02:57:98 (1) - 03:11:82 (1)
Redo Breaks!!

Insane-
00:20:07 (1) - first note isn't snapped, lol
00:26:88 (1) - I say remove clap~!
00:28:39 (1) - ^
00:30:67 (3) - add clap to start of slider (and remove finish) for uniqueness (imo)
00:35:60 (3) - that end clap doesn't belong
00:44:51 (1,2,3,4) - I would like it if you faced this in another direction instead of going under the (2) from last combo
01:05:93 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - die clap spam, DIEEE
01:06:50 (8) - why is this snapped to 1/6?! I say snap to 1/4 and cut one repeat
01:08:96 (1) - would sound better as 1/4 slider than 1/8...
01:09:63 (3,4) - snap on to 1/4, not 1/8, and remove claps!
01:11:05 (3) - remove clap and add another repeat (end on white tick)
01:14:08 (3) - ^
01:18:82 (3) - claps don't make a nice finish... (there's a finish hitsound you know xD), remove clap from end
01:21:10 (1) - remove clap and add another repeat
01:24:89 (5) - hmm follow the pattern and make this a new combo and place to right, too
01:25:65 (1,1) - spinner on spinner = illegal
01:33:25 (1) - snap to 1/4, I say move this to 01:33:04, extend slider to 1/4, not 1/6
01:33:90 (3) - snap to 1/4 (blue tick)
01:33:99 (4) - extend and snap to 1/4 (not 1/6)
01:46:90 (1,1) - snap to 1/4, not 1/6!!
02:07:08 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ahhh more clap spam! D:
02:09:64 (3) - not that I don't advise you to use some whistles, but this is random and alone.... add more or just remove
02:17:99 (1) - no point in new combo if you're just ganna stack
02:21:02 (1,1,1) - ^
02:27:09 (1) - ^
02:29:55 (2,3,4,5) - sounds awkward, whats this matching.. I think 02:30:12 (4,5) - should be moved 1/4 forward?
The too many stacks and they're kinda dull...
theres too much beats off timing (shame on all the mods before this... >_<)
Follow these steps please-
Turn beatsnap divisor to 1/4
Then Resnap All Notes, and Recalculate Slider Lengths under timing
double check the whole map, while ONLY using 1/4 (and maybe some 1/8 slider... I guess), this song -doesn't- have 1/6 sections (nor 1/3)... (with the right BPM)

This needs a lot more work before I can give it a star.... and of course an easier diff..

ok think i fixed the map

i decreased overall with one

and increased hp drain with 1

cuz of other people saying the difficulty was too EASY last time

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [x3ns0r's Phantom].osu

also removed the SB

fixed YeahYeahYeah's map
Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [Insane].osu

For any debate over the timing, I found it to be quite close. I ended with:

BPM: 158.225
Offset: 345

wooooooooosh

RESNAP ALL NOTES!!
you need to after changing bpm/offset manually..

((x3ns0r))
made it a bit more intuitive

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [x3ns0r's Phantom].osu

((YeahYeahYeah))
applied some changes..resnapped all notes

Download: UI-70 - Prismriver Sisters - Phantom Ensemble Rock Remix (yeahyeahyeahhh) [Insane].osu

@YeahYeahYeah please update as soon as possible

[All Difficulties]
You Need An Easier Difficulty, it is quite vital in ranking a map

[x3ns0r] (I think I updated with the new one he recently submitted in the post above)
00:16:26 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I like the samples here, somewhat cool I guess, BUT the sections must be put a couple milliseconds back, an inherited timing section cannot be timed exactly on a note, if someone hits it early and gets a 100, they wont hear the sampleset intended
00:17:402 (break) - fix break if not intentional
00:45:745 (break) - ^
just fix all the breaks, the notes appear as the break is still active
01:22:62 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same as earlier samplesets, I'm pretty sure it must be done, look at some new ranked maps, you might see volume changes on blue/yellow ticks before a hitcircle.
01:26:03 (1) - move it back to 01:25:653 (as seen in [Insane]) then, end this spinner 01:28:686
01:32:47 (1) - move this whole spinner 1/2 back the the previous red tick
01:33:616 (break) - I don't think this break is needed, ask someone else, follow me, or do what you think is best
01:53:71 (1,2,3) - not sure if you wanted to stack this with the similar/previous combo

[Insane]
00:43:37 (1,1,2,1,2,3,4) - this is pretty cool, it's odd, this 00:43:77 (1) is not snapped, intentional? idk about timing
I'm not gonna check through the timeline snaps, I'm guessing you didn't do shinxyn's last post, unless this ^ is the only one
01:22:62 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - do the same thing you did with the samplesets here in x3sn0r's difficulty, here's an example.
01:28:686 (spinner endpoint/beginning) - these cannot be stacked, I think you can end the first one here, then start the second one a tick after
I like some of the hitsounds, few where overused at times, but I heard some cool clap patterns towards the end

I guess it's cool enough to pass, not as ranked though (diff needed), I'll probably keep this map in mind, once you make an easy difficulty, I'll star

I'm out of town until the 30th and have limited computer/osu! access but I'll try to keep up on this as much as I can.

Updated the song, will look at the chnages suggested by Shinxyn and eee

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