Well, ok
France really needs to be separated, Netherlands too because of their high amount
France really needs to be separated, Netherlands too because of their high amount
I'm merely suggesting that you need to be careful to some degree when you put these countries together in one, selected group. Es tut mir leid.boat wrote:
Leave the users from their respective countries to decide that. Either way I don't agree with weighting historical events over the geographic aspect. This is a game and some things will have to be disregarded. Most of these wont be grouped specifically with one partner either, rather as a whole within a "Balkan Region".GladiOol wrote:
East europe will be a bitch. From what I know, Romania and Hungary won't work together. Croatia and Serbia won't work. Bosnia and Serbia won't work. Hungary and Slovakia won't work. Kosovo won't work with Croatia either iirc. Macedonia don't like the serbs either from what i know.
Good luck sorting it out :~D
boat wrote:
those with well below 20k users qualify
Yes, I did understand well that it's beatmap-specific.boat wrote:
I think you've also misunderstood that this is for the beatmap specific filter only. Don't focus on what's noted down, think of new and logical additions, such as the already almost concluded "benelux" which makes perfect sense.
UnderminE wrote:
Once again, there is a huge mistake. We are pretty far from Arabic culture. Our language and whatever. Just because the main religion is Islam, I don't accept being under same region with countries we don't have anything to share. And any of Turkish players won't accept either.CDFA wrote:
Maybe the Middle East can be grouped (Unless they have a high population of players. ie. Turkey, Egypt, Israel) as well?
Weird thing is we are both in Asia and Europe.;_;
As I already said to boat, if there are any Azerbaijani players, we will be more than okay to share same region since our language are almost the same and we can understand each other very well. Maybe it has nothing with communication or sharing cultures but if we are talking about a regional scoreboard, I am sure it will bring some hate against countries with it since there will be a race to get the first rank. So IMO kind-of-enemy countries being on same ranking scoreboard as a "region" is not a good idea.
The idea must be discussed with country players very well, to prevent negative results in the future.
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On another side, how about Balkans?
Haha oh well, my bad.BRBP wrote:
For about a millionth time, it's Finland, not Finnland ._.
Yeah it doesn't, but I believe what UnderminE is trying to say it, just because we share a region with some other country, it doesn't mean that we'd like to be grouped with them. Because there's actually nothing in common other than being located in the same region. I believe, much as we don't want to get anything political or religious involved in this, we can't disregard the truth that there will be a competition, not some kind of friendly one but racist one. So I thought grouping the countries who are culturally close to each other would create a great atmosphere with a spirit of friendly competition. These are my thoughts.Noobita wrote:
Didn't see anywhere that it says "Religious ranking" or "Cultural ranking"...
Live here for a while and see how politic things go around here, then you will understand what I tried to say.Noobita wrote:
Didn't see anywhere that it says "Religious ranking" or "Cultural ranking"...
I approve of this.Lumikki wrote:
I would put Baltic and Nordic countries together and change the group name to Northern Europe
Reasons:
1. I have heard that Estonians view themselves more Nordic than Baltic (please correct if not true)
2. The population of these countries are quite small.
3. Common history.
4. Similar language. ( Finnish-Estonian, Latvian-Lithuanian, Swedish-Norwegian-Danish...)
I'm glad you agree with me.ShinseinaTenshi wrote:
I approve of this.Lumikki wrote:
I would put Baltic and Nordic countries together and change the group name to Northern Europe
Reasons:
1. I have heard that Estonians view themselves more Nordic than Baltic (please correct if not true)
2. The population of these countries are quite small.
3. Common history.
4. Similar language. ( Finnish-Estonian, Latvian-Lithuanian, Swedish-Norwegian-Danish...)
@Lumikki that is kind of true indeed we view ourselves more with Nordic than Baltic (afaik). Also, if to take a view upon the statistics of abroad estonians going to Baltic or Nordic, the majority of estonians prefer going to either Finland or Sweden to work and live there, instead of Latvia or Lithuania, it's also safe to say that there's a lot of estonians in Finland. Quite many have also started going towards Sweden, but that's what I've heard.
This is not quite a valid argument. By all means, I wouldn't mind adding more countries to us, but this is merely opinions and doesn't have anything to do with geography.Lumikki wrote:
Reasons:
1. I have heard that Estonians view themselves more Nordic than Baltic (please correct if not true)
This isn't as much a preference as simply some nordic countries, particularly Norway and Finland having good amounts of jobs available. Estonia is not alone on that front. This isn't a valid argument either.ShinseinaTenshi wrote:
Also, if to take a view upon the statistics of abroad estonians going to Baltic or Nordic, the majority of estonians prefer going to either Finland or Sweden to work and live there, instead of Latvia or Lithuania
If the capitals of the countries ( Helsinki and Tallinn) are only 80km away from each other and that's not geographically close? I know there is a small gulf between that could make the distance look longer than it really is. It seems you are somewhat against to see Estonian/Latvian/Lithuanian rankings in your area. In this Baltic region there are barely 6 million inhabitants, so it would be nonsense to make them as their own group compared to something like Middle East groups.boat wrote:
This is not quite a valid argument. By all means, I wouldn't mind adding more countries to us, but this is merely opinions and doesn't have anything to do with geography.
Thank you. I would also make lots of changes to Middle East groups, esp concerning Israel, which is not in a good terms most of the countries in the same group. Also I would add Cyprus to same list where Turkey ( or Greece, didn't see it anywhere) is since common language and culture. Also maybe Arab-countries would be nicer to be in the same list as well as all Turkic ones.boat wrote:
Nonetheless, if we're to go by the UN definition, then you are a part of "Northern Europe" as well and as such the proposal is valid, I'll add it to the list as an alternative.
This is not what I replied to.Lumikki wrote:
If the capitals of the countries ( Helsinki and Tallinn) are only 80km away from each other and that's not geographically close?
CDFA wrote:
this is like exactly the reason why grouping big countries is bad
With countries with less than 100 active players, they won't really care too much about being put into a general group
but when combining really active areas, it's like they don't want to be combined because they already have decent country rankings.
Why do you force me to repeat myself again? What's your definition of a "big country"? Sweden has more active players than close to all of the ones I've listed, but sure as hell has a big issue with the country rank feature. I'm pretty sure said 100 players would be happy to have at least something to compare to.CDFA wrote:
this is like exactly the reason why grouping big countries is bad
With countries with less than 100 active players, they won't really care too much about being put into a general group
but when combining really active areas, it's like they don't want to be combined because they already have decent country rankings.
If it works for a country then that's great, but if it doesn't I see little reason for why you wouldn't want it. If you like comparing only to a select few you could just as well add them to your friendslist and filter that, leaving the feature available to those who want it.peppy wrote:
make a list of which countries should be grouped into regions where necessary