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JUDYDANNY
Hello, Requested to check the oldest map via M4M.

  • Inner Oni needs more improvement and consistency… orz
 

  • | >> Little question and small suggestion.
    :idea: >> idea lol
  1. >> Normal suggestion.
    Big text >> Strong suggestion.
    :?: >> Questionable imo.
    :!: >>> Needs to improve some. (Rhythm is not good , plays or sounds weird)
    No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.
 or JUST MY OPINION.

[Timing]

  • Maybe rise up more +10%.
    Vocal and accompaniment sounds loud.


[Kantan]
  1. 00:59:770 (75,76,77,1) - how about? spinner > finish seems better with vocal finish ww.

    • 1. 00:59:770 (75,76,77) - remove
      2. 01:01:370 (1) - move to 00:59:770 - .
      3. 01:01:370 - add note with finish!! and rise up the volume (80%?)
      http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7384495
  2. 02:10:170 (90,91,92,1) - same

    If you agree, try to reconsider other diffs too.

[Futsuu]
  1. 03:13:770 - add k? seems lack of hit sound and the 2nd similar patterns appeared them.
  2. 03:14:170 - ^? or 03:17:370 - remove?
  3. 03:18:170 (129) - , 03:19:770 - try to move ½ right (or 3/2 left?) . it seems better with play on-beat( white-tick lines).

    :idea: 00:22:370 (44,45,46) - , 00:33:570 (68,69,70) - only twice appeared 1/2 -triplet, but I think you can add more (to adjust the sounds pressure).
    1. 00:10:170 - add k , 00:16:570 - add d ? to enhance the trumpet.
    2. 01:34:970 - , 01:41:370 - ^
    3. 03:55:770 - , 04:02:170 - ^
    4. 00:48:170 - add d? the role is like 00:33:570 (68,69,70) - .
    5. 01:58:570 - ^?
    6. 03:10:570 - ^?

[Muzukashii]
  1. 03:50:270 - try add d? to enhance the more drum rolls.
  2. 00:12:770 (39,40) - not K only? if changed , 00:12:170 - how about add d too?
  3. 01:37:570 (116,117) - ^

[Oni]

  • Seems ok to me.


[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:03:370 - change to d? to different sound with back-sound appeared.
  2. 00:09:470 - remove?
  3. 00:10:170 - add k?
  4. 00:22:170 (85,86,87) - maybe change to k-dd ,and 00:22:770 - change to k seems better with plays pitch.
  5. 00:23:070 (90,91) - kd? 00:23:170 (91,92,93) - k-d-d seems … weired with vocal
  6. 00:38:670 - remove? feel a bit over.
  7. 00:41:870 (199,200) - dk? 00:41:970 (200,201) - k-d seems better with guitar tone.
  8. 00:46:970 - D? any sounds pitch are different from 00:45:570 - ,00:46:170 - .
  9. 01:00:770 - d seems better to make a balance with bass.
  10. 01:02:870 - maybe not bad to add k?
  11. 01:15:670 - ^
  12. 01:04:770 - k? not lower vocal pitch.
  13. 01:20:970 - change to d to make a balance? (different the sounds with any accompaniment sounds and vocals)
  14. 01:21:370 - ^?
  15. 01:23:770 - k the linked with 01:22:170 (430) - on vocal.
  16. 01:29:770 - maybe not bad to add k to make the smoother.
  17. 01:31:170 (483,484) - change to d? different from 2nd kiai colors. seems weird...uum..;;

    JUDYDANNY wrote:

    • No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.
     or JUST MY OPINION.
  18. 02:13:270 - add k?
  19. 02:15:170 - change k?
  20. 02:26:070 - add k?
  21. 02:31:370 (239,241) - change to d?
  22. 02:34:170 - change to k?
  23. 02:41:970 (305,306) - change to k?
  24. 02:51:370 - remove ? feel a bit over.
  25. 02:57:170 - add k , 02:57:870 - move to 02:57:470 - , 02:57:670 - add k?
    seems monotone ¼-triples, instrumental needs to make more variation imo.
  26. and, 03:00:370 - add k , 03:00:570 - ~~~ make the 1/4 -5plot d-kkddk?
  27. and, 03:03:570 - add k, 03:03:870 - add d, 03:04:270 - change to k?
  28. 03:17:570 - change to normal d same as 03:19:170 - .
  29. 03:25:570 - change to k?
  30. 03:28:770 - change to d?
  31. 03:36:470 - add k.
  32. 03:41:770 (256) - ,03:42:170 - change to d.
  33. 03:44:570 - change to k?
  34. 03:52:370 (326,327) - change to k?
  35. 03:55:970 - make a shorter spinner and , add ¼ triple ddd, same as Intro.
  36. 03:56:770 - , 03:57:570 - ,same.
  37. 03:58:170 - , 03:58:570 - add d. same as Intro.
  38. 04:00:370 (22,23,24,25) - change to ddk-”remove”. same as Intro.

Good luck (¦3[___]
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Applying the mod on behalf of Jikson as he became inactive.

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello, Requested to check the oldest map via M4M.

  • Inner Oni needs more improvement and consistency… orz
 

  • | >> Little question and small suggestion.
    :idea: >> idea lol
  1. >> Normal suggestion.
    Big text >> Strong suggestion.
    :?: >> Questionable imo.
    :!: >>> Needs to improve some. (Rhythm is not good , plays or sounds weird)
    No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.
 or JUST MY OPINION.

[Timing]

  • Maybe rise up more +10%.
    Vocal and accompaniment sounds loud. Done.


[Kantan]
  1. 00:59:770 (75,76,77,1) - how about? spinner > finish seems better with vocal finish ww. Hmm, I would prefer the current arrangement as the spinner could accompany the guitar starting from 01:01:370 -

    • 1. 00:59:770 (75,76,77) - remove
      2. 01:01:370 (1) - move to 00:59:770 - .
      3. 01:01:370 - add note with finish!! and rise up the volume (80%?)
      http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7384495
  2. 02:10:170 (90,91,92,1) - same -> same as ^

    If you agree, try to reconsider other diffs too.


[Futsuu]
  1. 03:13:770 - add k? seems lack of hit sound and the 2nd similar patterns appeared them. fixed
  2. 03:14:170 - ^? or 03:17:370 - remove? Applied the former.
  3. 03:18:170 (129) - , 03:19:770 - try to move ½ right (or 3/2 left?) . it seems better with play on-beat( white-tick lines). Hmm, retained to follow the vocals there.

    :idea: 00:22:370 (44,45,46) - , 00:33:570 (68,69,70) - only twice appeared 1/2 -triplet, but I think you can add more (to adjust the sounds pressure).
    1. 00:10:170 - add k , 00:16:570 - add d ? to enhance the trumpet. fixed
    2. 01:34:970 - , 01:41:370 - ^ ^
    3. 03:55:770 - , 04:02:170 - ^ ^
    4. 00:48:170 - add d? the role is like 00:33:570 (68,69,70) - . No change here for the spread.
    5. 01:58:570 - ^? ^
    6. 03:10:570 - ^? ^


[Muzukashii]
  1. 03:50:270 - try add d? to enhance the more drum rolls. fixed
  2. 00:12:770 (39,40) - not K only? if changed , 00:12:170 - how about add d too? ^
  3. 01:37:570 (116,117) - ^ ^ and fixed 03:57:570 - as well.

[Oni]

  • Seems ok to me.


[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:03:370 - change to d? to different sound with back-sound appeared. fixed
  2. 00:09:470 - remove? No change here to keep the complexity.
  3. 00:10:170 - add k? Retained to keep a consistent break like 00:10:970 and 00:11:770 -
  4. 00:22:170 (85,86,87) - maybe change to k-dd ,and 00:22:770 - change to k seems better with plays pitch. fixed
  5. 00:23:070 (90,91) - kd? 00:23:170 (91,92,93) - k-d-d seems … weired with vocal ^
  6. 00:38:670 - remove? feel a bit over. ^
  7. 00:41:870 (199,200) - dk? 00:41:970 (200,201) - k-d seems better with guitar tone. ^
  8. 00:46:970 - D? any sounds pitch are different from 00:45:570 - ,00:46:170 - . ^
  9. 01:00:770 - d seems better to make a balance with bass. ^
  10. 01:02:870 - maybe not bad to add k? fixed
  11. 01:15:670 - ^ I guess he wanted to keep the triplet dynamic, but fixed to make it more interesting to play.
  12. 01:04:770 - k? not lower vocal pitch. fixed
  13. 01:20:970 - change to d to make a balance? (different the sounds with any accompaniment sounds and vocals) ^
  14. 01:21:370 - ^? ^
  15. 01:23:770 - k the linked with 01:22:170 (430) - on vocal. ^
  16. 01:29:770 - maybe not bad to add k to make the smoother. ^
  17. 01:31:170 (483,484) - change to d? different from 2nd kiai colors. seems weird...uum..;; I think this is due to the difference in lyrics. Fixed.

    JUDYDANNY wrote:

    • No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.
     or JUST MY OPINION.
  18. 02:13:270 - add k? fixed
  19. 02:15:170 - change k? ^
  20. 02:26:070 - add k? same as 01:15:670 -
  21. 02:31:370 (239,241) - change to d? fixed
  22. 02:34:170 - change to k? ^
  23. 02:41:970 (305,306) - change to k? ^
  24. 02:51:370 - remove ? feel a bit over. ^
  25. 02:57:170 - add k , 02:57:870 - move to 02:57:470 - , 02:57:670 - add k?
    seems monotone ¼-triples, instrumental needs to make more variation imo. Nice.
  26. and, 03:00:370 - add k , 03:00:570 - ~~~ make the 1/4 -5plot d-kkddk? ^
  27. and, 03:03:570 - add k, 03:03:870 - add d, 03:04:270 - change to k? ^
  28. 03:17:570 - change to normal d same as 03:19:170 - . Done.
  29. 03:25:570 - change to k? fixed
  30. 03:28:770 - change to d? ^
  31. 03:36:470 - add k. same as 01:15:670 -
  32. 03:41:770 (256) - ,03:42:170 - change to d. fixed
  33. 03:44:570 - change to k? ^
  34. 03:52:370 (326,327) - change to k? ^
  35. 03:55:970 - make a shorter spinner and , add ¼ triple ddd, same as Intro. ^
  36. 03:56:770 - , 03:57:570 - ,same. ^
  37. 03:58:170 - , 03:58:570 - add d. same as Intro. ^
  38. 04:00:370 (22,23,24,25) - change to ddk-”remove”. same as Intro. Okay.

Good luck (¦3[___]
Thanks for your mod JuDa~ :)
JUDYDANNY
Rererecheck inner.
  1. 00:10:170 - suggest to add k...? its too closed.

    About 01:46:370 - ~ 01:59:170 - comparing with 00:35:970 - ~ 00:48:770 - ,
    Its too airy dense.

    1. 01:46:970 - , 01:47:770 - , add k the gap with 1st.
    2. 01:48:170 - add 1/4 triple ddk, same reason.
    3. 01:48:770 - change to d,01:49:070 - move to 01:48:670 - ? same reason.
    4. 01:49:370 - change k? small suggestion, plays better imo.
    1. 01:50:170 - add k , 01:50:970 - add d? same reason.
    2. 01:51:370 - add 1/4 triple.....ddk or kkk?
    1. 01:53:370 - , 01:54:170 - add k,
    2. 01:54:370 - change to d, 01:54:570 - add 1/4 triple ddk.
    3. 01:55:470 - remove and ,01:54:970 - add 1/4 triple... dkddd like 1st.
    4. 01:55:770 - change k, 01:56:270 - add k, 01:56:770 - remove? like 1st?
  2. 00:45:470 (60,61) - change to...(remove, finisher)?
  3. 02:08:570 - add k, same 1st. and 02:08:270 - add k too? just small suggestion but it looks a bit bored 1/2 kkkk.
  4. 02:10:970 - add d, 02:11:170 - change to k? to make a similar dense like 1st. Its following the guitar...? maybe?
  5. 02:11:570 - change to k? the drum.. percussion sounds up.
  6. 02:09:570 (5,6,7,8) - maybe change to 5plet ddkkd seems better?
    •  ※1st 00:59:370 (6,7,8) - k-d-k → 01:00:970 (14,15,16) - kkd
       ※2nd 02:09:570 (5,6,7,8,9) - ddkkd→ 02:11:370 (15,16,17) - ddk
  7. 01:10:470 - , 02:20:870 - add d? 3times 1/4 seems a bit bored, Its needed more power imo.
  8. 01:20:070 - , 02:30:470 - add d? same.

  9. 02:39:170 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180) - prefer imo the colors lol,
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7676908
  10. 03:49:770 - add d, 03:50:570 - add k , 03:50:970 (325,326) - change kk? same reason, and drums sounds noisy. It needs more power.

  11. 02:53:570 (1) - maybe seems better to put the circles.
    how about"K-dK-dK" ?
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7676869

  12. 03:10:970 - remove and from 03:10:370 - ,add 1/2 triple KDD?
  13. 03:11:170 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) -
    This is not enough to following the accompaniment . Suggest to no use the finish and focus the vocal?
    1. @Finishers: change to normal?
    2. @some kats: change to don?
      e.g. 03:11:370 - ,03:12:770 (102,103,104) - , 03:14:370 - , 03:15:970 - ?
  14. 03:18:770 - add d? the different sounds snare.
  15. 03:21:170 (133,134,135,136,137) - kkdkk? build up to next K-K-K.
  16. 03:23:770 - add d...? maybe it plays better as single diff imo,
  17. 03:31:270 - , 03:40:870 - add d? same reason 01:10:470 - , 02:20:870 - .
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Rererecheck inner.
  1. 00:10:170 - suggest to add k...? its too closed. Remain unchanged to keep it consistent with the stand alone ddd k at 01:35:170 and 03:55:970 -

    About 01:46:370 - ~ 01:59:170 - comparing with 00:35:970 - ~ 00:48:770 - ,
    Its too airy dense. Agreed.

    1. 01:46:970 - , 01:47:770 - , add k the gap with 1st.
    2. 01:48:170 - add 1/4 triple ddk, same reason.
    3. 01:48:770 - change to d,01:49:070 - move to 01:48:670 - ? same reason.
    4. 01:49:370 - change k? small suggestion, plays better imo.
    1. 01:50:170 - add k , 01:50:970 - add d? same reason.
    2. 01:51:370 - add 1/4 triple.....ddk or kkk?
    1. 01:53:370 - , 01:54:170 - add k,
    2. 01:54:370 - change to d, 01:54:570 - add 1/4 triple ddk.
    3. 01:55:470 - remove and ,01:54:970 - add 1/4 triple... dkddd like 1st.
    4. 01:55:770 - change k, 01:56:270 - add k, 01:56:770 - remove? like 1st? fixed
  2. 00:45:470 (60,61) - change to...(remove, finisher)?
  3. 02:08:570 - add k, same 1st. and 02:08:270 - add k too? just small suggestion but it looks a bit bored 1/2 kkkk.
  4. 02:10:970 - add d, 02:11:170 - change to k? to make a similar dense like 1st. Its following the guitar...? maybe?
  5. 02:11:570 - change to k? the drum.. percussion sounds up.
  6. 02:09:570 (5,6,7,8) - maybe change to 5plet ddkkd seems better?
    •  ※1st 00:59:370 (6,7,8) - k-d-k → 01:00:970 (14,15,16) - kkd
       ※2nd 02:09:570 (5,6,7,8,9) - ddkkd→ 02:11:370 (15,16,17) - ddk
  7. 01:10:470 - , 02:20:870 - add d? 3times 1/4 seems a bit bored, Its needed more power imo.
  8. 01:20:070 - , 02:30:470 - add d? same.

  9. 02:39:170 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180) - prefer imo the colors lol,
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7676908 Done
  10. 03:49:770 - add d, 03:50:570 - add k , 03:50:970 (325,326) - change kk? same reason, and drums sounds noisy. It needs more power.

  11. 02:53:570 (1) - maybe seems better to put the circles.
    how about"K-dK-dK" ? fixed
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7676869

  12. 03:10:970 - remove and from 03:10:370 - ,add 1/2 triple KDD? Changed something different to focus on the vocal and add variation.
  13. 03:11:170 (96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) -
    This is not enough to following the accompaniment . Suggest to no use the finish and focus the vocal?
    1. @Finishers: change to normal?
    2. @some kats: change to don?
      e.g. 03:11:370 - ,03:12:770 (102,103,104) - , 03:14:370 - , 03:15:970 - ?
  14. 03:18:770 - add d? the different sounds snare.
  15. 03:21:170 (133,134,135,136,137) - kkdkk? build up to next K-K-K. Good idea.
  16. 03:23:770 - add d...? maybe it plays better as single diff imo,
  17. 03:31:270 - , 03:40:870 - add d? same reason 01:10:470 - , 02:20:870 - .
Almost fixed with some additional changes to make the flow smoother. Thanks again :3
JUDYDANNY
Inner Oni improved a lot , and the set looks fine.
Ooooolder map revived as rank.
Bubbled~
Yuzeyun
about time lmfao

you came a long way from this boi
tasuke912
sorry for late :?

[ General]
  1. 00:05:770 - Taiko doesn't sound clear because of drums. I suggest adding a line (70~80%) here.


[ Futsuu]
  1. 02:41:570 (66,67) - should be removed for consistency with other kiais.


[ Muzukashii]
  1. 01:31:170 (97) - 02:41:570 (97,98) - 03:51:970 (295) - It seems like that vocals emphasize on upbeat rather than downbeat, so these 1/1 rhythms are kinda weird to me. I suggest removing them.


[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:00:770 - Change the hitsound volume as well as other difficulties.
  2. 00:07:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern is questionable to me. Do you think it appropriate, Nardo?
  3. 01:30:770 (479) - 02:41:170 (323) - 03:51:570 (328) - Overemphasized notes
  4. 03:08:570 (89,90,91,92) - placing of finishers seems uncomfortable. no need normal notes there.

  5. 01:28:470 (466) - there is no drum sound.
  6. 02:38:870 (309) - ^
  7. 03:07:270 (80) - ^
  8. 03:48:870 (308) - ^
  9. 03:07:470 (82,83) - Color should be reversed considering drums.
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

tasuke912 wrote:

sorry for late :?

[ General]
  1. 00:05:770 - Taiko doesn't sound clear because of drums. I suggest adding a line (70~80%) here. fixed


[ Futsuu]
  1. 02:41:570 (66,67) - should be removed for consistency with other kiais. fixed


[ Muzukashii]
  1. 01:31:170 (97) - 02:41:570 (97,98) - 03:51:970 (295) - It seems like that vocals emphasize on upbeat rather than downbeat, so these 1/1 rhythms are kinda weird to me. I suggest removing them. Alright.


[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:00:770 - Change the hitsound volume as well as other difficulties. Done.
  2. 00:07:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern is questionable to me. Do you think it appropriate, Nardo? I think it is somewhat improvised by the mapper. Changed to something else in attempt to interpret the music better.
  3. 01:30:770 (479) - 02:41:170 (323) - 03:51:570 (328) - Overemphasized notes fixed
  4. 03:08:570 (89,90,91,92) - placing of finishers seems uncomfortable. no need normal notes there. ^

  5. 01:28:470 (466) - there is no drum sound. Deleted the note there.
  6. 02:38:870 (309) - ^ ^
  7. 03:07:270 (80) - ^ ^
  8. 03:48:870 (308) - ^ ^
  9. 03:07:470 (82,83) - Color should be reversed considering drums. fixed

    Additional changes have been made for the pattern from 03:49:770 to 03:51:170 -
Thanks for your mod tasuke~ :)
tasuke912
Re-bubbled!
JUDYDANNY
A little changed @Muzukashii and Inner Oni.
The set looks fine, ready!

Qualified!
_todestrieb
holy :o
Akemi_Homura
Finally...! gratz~~! ><
Surono
old map demmmm, gratz XD
toara_fict
Finally...!!!!
Ankanogradiel
gratss
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