Renard - Terminal [Osu|Taiko]

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Ethercastle

Lust wrote:

While I am with others on the agreement that the map is not well done, I find myself to be a very open man when it comes to discussions like this. However in your recent posts and in others, I find your ways of thinking to be flawed. Someone who cannot read AR10 in play can easily open up the editor and pick out parts of a map with some background in modding/mapping. Playing and modding are two different aspects of this community. Being able to pass your own maps should be given, after all you did make the set. Instead of being defensive about your patterns claiming that "many players love the movement", is not a good argument. The majority of those saying such things are coming from one side of the community. Being able to take critique is all part of the experience in mapping. Telling us to delete your map isn't going to solve anything either. The sentiment against the mapset will always be there.
You should bear in mind that people hardly ever reach consensus on anything, though.

Take an extreme example, I hate Justin Bieber and I believe that, seriously, he should sing death metal instead. Is that a valid critique? Probably yes. He has the perfect voice for that.Should he really sing death metal? Definitely no. "Many people love his songs". The majority of those voice comes from one side of the (global) community, namely brainless teenage girls. Nonetheless, he should never take my critique as if he actually starts his metal career, he'll probably....(can't imagine the cruelty).... Instead, he should just ignore me and tell me to delete all his songs. The sentiment against him will be there beyond forever, but who cares? Girls like him.

Most of the time, the reason why a mapper declines some suggestions is not that he/she is a super stubborn asshole, but that the suggestion does not cohere with his/her vision of the map. Taking the suggestion would surely make some people like the map more, but will, meanwhile, make others like the map less. Aqo's post summed it up quite well so I'm not gonna repeat.

Mappers who make popular maps deserve respect. However, as far as I believe, mappers who are able uphold their opinions, survive the haters and egocentric modders and subsequently bring to the community unique and stylish maps deserve more respect. As without them, we would only have homogenized maps that plays fluent but yet identical.
OnosakiHito

JAKACHAN wrote:

This is just another map that was mapped to be hard and didn't turn out how it should of. Unfortunately, no one will do anything about it because that's how these always turn out.
I wonder why we have sets. I wonder.

Anyway, keep calm guys. JAKACHAN said he believes it's not fitting, noting else. So please don't force a discussion because of his own opinion. He doesn't said it is fact(rather assumed it), so let it drop off in room.
cheesiest
i like this map
Avena

OnosakiHito wrote:

JAKACHAN wrote:

This is just another map that was mapped to be hard and didn't turn out how it should of. Unfortunately, no one will do anything about it because that's how these always turn out.
I wonder why we have sets. I wonder.

Anyway, keep calm guys. JAKACHAN said he believes it's not fitting, noting else. So please don't force a discussion because of his own opinion. He doesn't said it is fact(rather assumed it), so let it drop off in room.
I love you.
I hate how people bandwagoon the bashing train, once someone says something against the map they all attack him for no actual reason, just to feel like they are rightous people.
DenoisoGoiso
edit extra -->> save as new difficulty -->> set AR10 to AR9 -->> then don't refresh and delete notes -->> enjoy


enjoy

Stefan wrote:

for gods sake, why is this so big. this is really not needed to make that so big.
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Stefan
for gods sake, why is this so big. this is really not needed to make that so big.
pw384
MAN, THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION. YOU CAN DO NOTHING TO CHANGE THE MAPPER'S IDEAS BUT WHY YOU ARE ALWAYS FIGHTING AGAINST SOMETHINGTHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE??
Soarezi

384059043 wrote:

MAN, THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION. YOU CAN DO NOTHING TO CHANGE THE MAPPER'S IDEAS BUT WHY YOU ARE ALWAYS FIGHTING AGAINST SOMETHINGTHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE??
Wot m8
Giralda

OnosakiHito wrote:

JAKACHAN wrote:

This is just another map that was mapped to be hard and didn't turn out how it should of. Unfortunately, no one will do anything about it because that's how these always turn out.
I wonder why we have sets. I wonder.

Anyway, keep calm guys. JAKACHAN said he believes it's not fitting, noting else. So please don't force a discussion because of his own opinion. He doesn't said it is fact(rather assumed it), so let it drop off in room.
I think this sums it up pretty nicely. Just say your congrats and move on or something.
Low
this is so fun :D
Asphyxia
8-)
Lunah
People should understand Rendard =\= needs to be overmapped

This map is so bad : the 1/4 slider with Approach Rate 10, the silent streams and slider velocity 2,80 with 180 BPM.. seriously
Avena

lesslunatic wrote:

People should understand Rendard =\= needs to be overmapped

This map is so bad : the 1/4 slider with Approach Rate 10, the silent streams and slider velocity 2,80 with 180 BPM.. seriously
2014, Get used to it.
Itachi_Uchiha

Priti wrote:

lesslunatic wrote:

People should understand Rendard =\= needs to be overmapped

This map is so bad : the 1/4 slider with Approach Rate 10, the silent streams and slider velocity 2,80 with 180 BPM.. seriously
2014, Get used to it.
Made my day...

No seriously, the rules say "Only map on a part where you can hear something in the music" or so... (Too lazy to look for it)

But that does not mean Map on everything you hear
LKs
I dislike the map because the bg is not diao enough hahaha
Skystar

LKs wrote:

I dislike the map because the bg is not diao enough hahaha
it's diao enough imo
astelios
WTF
Was ranked 2 days ago.
AWESOME map and song!
Edit: it is ranked :P
Kunino Sagiri

Priti wrote:

Scorpiour wrote:

I was planning to rank this map but wcx came first.
I think I get the gist now of how bad maps get ranked

When I see BATs like this that can't even tell between a question and an insult, I won't even wonder. What a huge enlightenment :D
Sonnyc
I've just find this out, and it's AMAZING

Though I can't play.
MiPan
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