If players choose to do so, they can just play without the mod.Kaeru wrote:
I don't like this idea for mainly one reason: it makes the game even more mindless.
When I am trying to achieve a certain score, I take pleasure in having to manually check my accuracy and pay attention. Having this mod would allow players to set higher scores without the need to ever manually retry the map. This is fine for the perfect mod. Since it's so difficult to get an SS, the player deserves to get free retries whenever they mess up.
It's also completely possible for the player to set criteria that's not helpful for their next play. What if there's a part of the song near the end you usually ace, but then you accidentally get a 50 on the last note? It doesn't make sense to me that the player should have to restart the whole song. At least with SD and PF mods, you know exactly what you're getting into. It's much harder to predict how well you're going to do the next time you play a song and you would have to constantly adjust this setting for each song you play.
That being said, this mod definitely does have applications. I just think it's a little unfair as the game should require you to maintain an active mind if you wish to achieve these sort of goals.
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-Sapphire_old
I would feel forced to use the mod because it makes ranking up so much easier. It's not a bad idea, it just makes farming ranks a lot easier. I think everything possible should be done to go in the opposite direction. In other words, not forcing users to play the same song over and over a thousand times to rank up.
I know that a lot of people do this already, but this kind of mod would further encourage it and make it easier to do.
I know that a lot of people do this already, but this kind of mod would further encourage it and make it easier to do.
How exactly would this mod make anything gameplay-wise easier? It doesn't give any score-multipliers nor does it make circles easier to hit. It's more like a custom mashup of perfect and sudden death.Kaeru wrote:
I would feel forced to use the mod because it makes ranking up so much easier. It's not a bad idea, it just makes farming ranks a lot easier. I think everything possible should be done to go in the opposite direction. In other words, not forcing users to play the same song over and over a thousand times to rank up.
I know that a lot of people do this already, but this kind of mod would further encourage it and make it easier to do.
>playing
>notices you've gotten too many 100s
>esc > retry
problem solved
i just don't see a point in adding this unless 30% of the community broke their esc key
>notices you've gotten too many 100s
>esc > retry
problem solved
i just don't see a point in adding this unless 30% of the community broke their esc key
-Sapphire_old
@SnowStorm : Sometimes it's hard to tell cause you can't see how many 100s you have when you're in-game (if I'm not wrong) and as I said before, some people just want to strictly contain their 100s
@Kaeru : Most people won't bother after retrying too many times, they'll usually stop when they're bored. It's entirely up to the user to choose whether to rank the song or not. Nobody's being forced.
@Kaeru : Most people won't bother after retrying too many times, they'll usually stop when they're bored. It's entirely up to the user to choose whether to rank the song or not. Nobody's being forced.
there's a thing called accuracy at the top right corner of your play screen
have a quick look at it and you can tell pretty easily if you got too many 100s
have a quick look at it and you can tell pretty easily if you got too many 100s
0% to 30% - really bad accuracy, obvious D
30% to 45% - bad accuracy, probable D
45% to 70% - bad accuracy, probable C
70% to 85% - average accuracy, probable C but possibly B
85% to 95% - good accuracy, probable A but possibly S
95% to 99% - great accuracy, obvious S
100% - SS
enough said
30% to 45% - bad accuracy, probable D
45% to 70% - bad accuracy, probable C
70% to 85% - average accuracy, probable C but possibly B
85% to 95% - good accuracy, probable A but possibly S
95% to 99% - great accuracy, obvious S
100% - SS
enough said
-Sapphire_old
i lol'dSnowStorm wrote:
95% to 99% - great accuracy, obvious S
<99.50% : horrible accuracy, retry
99.50 - 99.90% : decent accuracy, possible S
99.90 - 99.99% : kill yourself
no, actually this idea is neat, useful when you want to troll your rival by 10pts and set yourself objectives.
don't have any votes, so have a small support
i'm here to play, not to do math ffs
99.50 - 99.90% : decent accuracy, possible S
99.90 - 99.99% : kill yourself
no, actually this idea is neat, useful when you want to troll your rival by 10pts and set yourself objectives.
don't have any votes, so have a small support
i'm here to play, not to do math ffs
-Sapphire_old
ʅ(◔౪◔｀)ʃdeadbeat wrote:
i lol'dSnowStorm wrote:
SnowStorm wrote: 95% to 99% - great accuracy, obvious S
This should be added with that other mod idea that lets you set the rate of a song (other than just DT).
Actually I raise double hands to support your idea.
I would like to also add something like "Ranking #1", "Ranking #50" or etc, which if you set the target, the game would fail if you are impossible to get such score. (If it's impossible to get such score in selected mod (like trying to use no mod to challenge a #1 with HRHDDT) the game would instantly fail at the beginning. ) but this is something off-topic.
Actually it is really awful that we can't see the score board like in the test mode representing how many 300,100 and 50 we got.
I would like to also add something like "Ranking #1", "Ranking #50" or etc, which if you set the target, the game would fail if you are impossible to get such score. (If it's impossible to get such score in selected mod (like trying to use no mod to challenge a #1 with HRHDDT) the game would instantly fail at the beginning. ) but this is something off-topic.
Actually it is really awful that we can't see the score board like in the test mode representing how many 300,100 and 50 we got.
Set the rate of a song? Wouldn't that just be like practice mode then? Unless the user is forced to pick out of a set of choices. It would have to be unranked anyways so I don't really see the point.Friggles wrote:
This should be added with that other mod idea that lets you set the rate of a song (other than just DT).
Do think this is reasonable._Gezo_ wrote:
<99.50% : horrible accuracy, retry
99.50 - 99.90% : decent accuracy, possible S
99.90 - 99.99% : kill yourself
no, actually this idea is neat, useful when you want to troll your rival by 10pts and set yourself objectives.
don't have any votes, so have a small support
i'm here to play, not to do math ffs
As a player mainly plays osu!mania, 300g and 300 all count as 100%, and you may not know how much 300 you have missed in the whole song. In easy songs 1x300 really hurts, and because of doubles and triples, you may just see 300g instead.
A random scene:
I see everything 300g -> don't get 1000000 -> found having 3 or more 300s
As in standard we also have spinners overspin out of accuracy measure, it is good to have such mod to have control of the game and not to press retry in a flash when completing a game with less than 500 pts worse than high score
no need to bump something that was recently posted in. try waiting 2-3 weeks at least before bumping something
You can take a try on counting 300 (Along bunch of MAXs) yourself when accuracy stand still on 100%.SnowStorm wrote:
>playing
>notices you've gotten too many 100s
>esc > retry
problem solved
i just don't see a point in adding this unless 30% of the community broke their esc key
How about ''S or quit''.
You would auto reset when it's not anymore posible to get S.
If you get misses,50s or 100s over the limit of S from that beatmap it would auto reset you like Perfect mod.
That could be a option between Sudden Death and Perfect mod.
You would auto reset when it's not anymore posible to get S.
If you get misses,50s or 100s over the limit of S from that beatmap it would auto reset you like Perfect mod.
That could be a option between Sudden Death and Perfect mod.
why not^^
+1
+1
-Sapphire_old
I like the 'auto-fail' mod many stepmania themes put in. You set a number of misses, 200s, 100s, etc. and whenever you hit that number it automatically fails for you. We already have two perfect mods to cover the most common uses, but I might as well support.
-Sapphire_old
Mithost : Thanks :')
And I'm so mapping this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_120DMFDQ HAHA.
And I'm so mapping this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_120DMFDQ HAHA.
Dark Tux wrote:
How about ''S or quit''.
You would auto reset when it's not anymore posible to get S.
If you get misses,50s or 100s over the limit of S from that beatmap it would auto reset you like Perfect mod.
That could be a option between Sudden Death and Perfect mod.
This can be a good idea, but I'd like to suggest something :
So when it becomes impossible to beat yourself, if you even FC the rest of the map you won't beat your score, you fail.
I think it's a little bit hard to implement but I really want this :3
this is a waste of time and effort.Dark Tux wrote:
How about ''S or quit''.
You would auto reset when it's not anymore posible to get S.
If you get misses,50s or 100s over the limit of S from that beatmap it would auto reset you like Perfect mod.
That could be a option between Sudden Death and Perfect mod.
I like the idea, but I would love to add maybe an even better mod.
How about a mod that will auto-fail you if you are not able to score higher than your previous high-score.
The coding would just need to assume and give you the best possible score at the moment you are in the song.
current score + highest possible score obtainable in the remaining song = Best possible score
if Best possible score < Previous high-score = fail
spinners will be assumed 300 + spinner bonus of previous high-score (if that data is there, if not just regular 300)
Your Selective Perfect mod might be another way of this mod that I had in mind, but maybe you could mesh them together or something? I would love to see a mod that will help people gradually get better by setting the bar little bits higher and higher.
How about a mod that will auto-fail you if you are not able to score higher than your previous high-score.
The coding would just need to assume and give you the best possible score at the moment you are in the song.
current score + highest possible score obtainable in the remaining song = Best possible score
if Best possible score < Previous high-score = fail
spinners will be assumed 300 + spinner bonus of previous high-score (if that data is there, if not just regular 300)
Your Selective Perfect mod might be another way of this mod that I had in mind, but maybe you could mesh them together or something? I would love to see a mod that will help people gradually get better by setting the bar little bits higher and higher.
-Sapphire_old
Hmm.. Yeah, that seems like a great idea. I'll add this to the opening post. A question though, how is it going to know that you're breaking your previous high score? Everyone starts off at 0 so does that mean that the system will auto-fail everyone?BlackStat wrote:
I like the idea, but I would love to add maybe an even better mod.
How about a mod that will auto-fail you if you are not able to score higher than your previous high-score.
The coding would just need to assume and give you the best possible score at the moment you are in the song.
current score + highest possible score obtainable in the remaining song = Best possible score
if Best possible score < Previous high-score = fail
spinners will be assumed 300 + spinner bonus of previous high-score (if that data is there, if not just regular 300)
Your Selective Perfect mod might be another way of this mod that I had in mind, but maybe you could mesh them together or something? I would love to see a mod that will help people gradually get better by setting the bar little bits higher and higher.
BlackStat wrote:
I like the idea, but I would love to add maybe an even better mod.
How about a mod that will auto-fail you if you are not able to score higher than your previous high-score.
The coding would just need to assume and give you the best possible score at the moment you are in the song.
current score + highest possible score obtainable in the remaining song = Best possible score
if Best possible score < Previous high-score = fail
spinners will be assumed 300 + spinner bonus of previous high-score (if that data is there, if not just regular 300)
Your Selective Perfect mod might be another way of this mod that I had in mind, but maybe you could mesh them together or something? I would love to see a mod that will help people gradually get better by setting the bar little bits higher and higher.
Exactly what I meant
All of my yes. This would help a lot when you want to improve the accuracy of your highscores but you're too scared to accidentally rank a better score with worse accuracy and lose pp.
I agree with this. Selective way of "Perfect" is kind of a good way to adjust the restrictions to your liking without needing an S all the time. But this isn't high priority too so it wouldn't be made true so quickly 
TheRedZone
I'd support this. I have no voting things tho. Another suggestion is for the auto-fail system is the Climb the Ladder mode I'm not creative. Come up with a better name plz. It'll search for the score of the person above your rank in the song you choose, and sets the values like Gekis, 300's, and Combos, etc. that matches the other guy's score. You can also set the rank you want to take. For example, you're rank 1324 of 9012. You want to take rank 412. You can set the rank you're aiming for and the auto-fail system does the rest.
I like this idea alot upvoted this :3
But how will this translate to CTB for example you put in how many droplets you miss ?
But how will this translate to CTB for example you put in how many droplets you miss ?
I would actually like for this to replace sudden death mode. I feel that perfect mode needs to stay because is some sort of badge of honor to me. But sudden death is more lenient already.