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mancuso_JM_
Great song choice :D
Good Luck with this project, bro ;)
Natteke desu
Дапривет.
Смотрел я самую сложную диффу на данный момент, ибо у меня нет большого опыта в моддинге чего-то более легкого чем хард
да и вообще я говномоддер
Стоит заметить что музыка располагает ко всякого рода свистулькам (ну как по мне)
Для примера вот:
00:33:786 (1) - на голову слайдера нормальный свисток, 00:34:724 (4) - тут тоже, 00:35:192 (5) - на конец, 00:35:661 (6) - ну и на этот серкл (полагаю не стоит объяснять что я не настаиваю, а просто предлагаю) ну и дальше продолжая

00:39:177 (4) - может сделать его софтовым? (просто как по мне нормал клэп сильно выбивается)
00:44:802 (5) - слишком выделяющийся звук, может стоит всунуть хотя бы серкл?
не буду говорить про свистки на киае которые как по мне бы подошли (просто я полагаю что если тебе понравится идея со свистками ты и сам в состоянии сделать подходящий паттерн, лол), разве что вот про это место:
01:15:271 (1,2,3) - как по мне свистки на синем-красном тике очень круто звучат, было бы круто их там увидеть
01:42:927 (4) - опять же этот клеп
02:13:161 (5) - поставь его чуть ниже, пожалуйста
02:19:021 (1,2) - ну про это я уже говорил
02:53:942 (4) - а это чуть выше
03:03:786 (4) - вот тут лучше заменить на вистл, даже если ты не захочешь воспользоваться моим пожеланием выше

Ну собственно, вот. Надеюсь что будет полезным, удачи с ранком!
Lavademon
I like it :3 , hope it gets ranked :)
TicClick
General
Можно убрать электроник из тэгов.

[Next Week!]
  1. 00:47:146 (1) - финиш!
  2. 00:58:161 (3) - нк?
  3. 01:02:146 (3) - ↑!
  4. 01:46:677 (2) - чуть вправо сдвинь, чтобы продолжала линию слайдера
  5. 01:50:896 (1) - финиш!
  6. 02:01:911 (3) - нк?
  7. 02:05:896 (3) - ↑!
странно

  1. 02:26:521 - тут был спиннер, наверное
Много даунбитов пропущено.

[Never!]
  1. 00:53:239 (1,2) - может, все же стакнешь или ужмёшь спейсинг ещё сильней? Уж больно на трипл похоже. Трипл? Триплет? Как правильно?
  2. 01:00:036 (2) - отодвинь влево, нужно больше места
  3. 01:01:442 (3) - по хлопку надо кликать, а не катиться по слайдеру
  4. 01:01:911 (4) - ну а это вообще
  5. 01:14:099 (4) - нет! Подними его чуть вверх, либо выдели другим цветом
  6. 01:25:817 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/45sWw.jpg, иначе два слайдера плохо смотрятся рядом, а нота не влезает в то место
  7. 01:56:989 (1,2) - то же, что и раньше
Я ничего не понял, почти всё начинается на красных тиках, играл с ощущением, что чего-то не хватат.
Topic Starter
Aleks719
EvilElvisV2, пофиксил половину о/
TicClick, пофиксил всё о/

пасибо за моды, парни!

Lavademon, thank you, i hope too!
mancuso_JM_, yay, thanks man!
quiz-chan_DELETED
Next day! :arrow: Tomorrow!
That's what I'd suggest

Awesome song, awesome beatmap. Go for it!! /o/
waxman
[Next year!]

00:27:927 (2) - move to x:320 y:136
00:54:646 (5) - NC
01:31:208 (1,2) - bad spacing? miss?
02:13:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this section's spacing is weird. intention?
02:47:146 (1) - I don't want you to put on 02:47:849 (2)
03:03:317 (3) - Ctrl+G (suggestion)
03:19:021 (1,2) - I want a space more.
03:20:310 (5,6) - ^

[Other]

WHERE IS NEXT MONTH? LOLOLOLOLOL


How nice song and map @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!
Topic Starter
Aleks719

waxman wrote:

[Next year!]

00:27:927 (2) - move to x:320 y:136 it's too boooring
00:54:646 (5) - NC ok, agree
01:31:208 (1,2) - bad spacing? miss? didn't change anything here, looks fine for me
02:13:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this section's spacing is weird. intention? fixed, improved flow
02:47:146 (1) - I don't want you to put on 02:47:849 (2) but i want to put, lol
03:03:317 (3) - Ctrl+G (suggestion) yep, has sense, improved flow for next patterns too
03:19:021 (1,2) - I want a space more. decided to fix too
03:20:310 (5,6) - ^ same
yay, thank you for mod!
Sharpy_old
Hello!

[General]
  1. You can't pick BG by typing name of the song on Google, try reading the lyrics and realize what picture fits the text most. Maybe this? http://puu.sh/4a0ms.jpg
  2. Also offset is -1 on all diffs (2145) - I tested both offsets and I did better with 2145
[Next Day!]
  1. Add note on 00:37:771 - Would be better IMO since you put notes everywhere to fit rythm and it was good. Why stop there?
  2. It would be better if you move spinner from 00:39:880 to 00:40:114 - Better fits with music
  3. 00:53:474 (3,4) - pls don't do this, why don't you fix spacing here because beginners won't recognize this.
  4. 01:52:536 (3) - This is not so much of a problem, but some may find this hard to recognize
  5. Maybe a bit overused kiai - Maybe delete it from 02:50:896 to 03:05:896 ?
[Next Week!]
  1. All good here
[Next Year!]
  1. 00:35:191 (4) - Move this to x:240 y:116 maybe? It looks ugly like this.
  2. 00:52:238 (1,2) - Move them from eachother, like this it looks tricky and people will click it faster then it really is. Really.
  3. 01:56:988 (1,2) - ^
  4. 02:01:910 (3) - This slider is like made to be on x:396 y:228 - Dunno why you didn't put it there o.o
  5. 02:45:504 (1) - Move it somewhere else? or not? I dunno
Awesome, awesome, AWESOME! You did a teriffic job there mate! Keep a good work and good luck €:
Topic Starter
Aleks719

Sharpy wrote:

Hello!

[General]
  1. You can't pick BG by typing name of the song on Google, try reading the lyrics and realize what picture fits the text most. Maybe this? http://puu.sh/4a0ms.jpg i prefer my bg, this single has been made specially for Ralph movie, so...
  2. Also offset is -1 on all diffs (2145) - I tested both offsets and I did better with 2145 it's really minor and unnecessary
[Next Week!]
  1. All good here niiice
[Next Year!]
  1. 00:35:191 (4) - Move this to x:240 y:116 maybe? It looks ugly like this. ok, changed
  2. 00:52:238 (1,2) - Move them from eachother, like this it looks tricky and people will click it faster then it really is. Really. diff is quite easy, couple of trick places won't hurt
  3. 01:56:988 (1,2) - ^^
  4. 02:01:910 (3) - This slider is like made to be on x:396 y:228 - Dunno why you didn't put it there o.o mmm, i personally don't like to stack heads of sliders in a same point
  5. 02:45:504 (1) - Move it somewhere else? or not? I dunno i dunno why too, it's pretty readable
Awesome, awesome, AWESOME! You did a teriffic job there mate! Keep a good work and good luck €:
Yay, thank you for mod :3
hope guest mappers will response soon! :3
_Erra_
Хей,я знаю,возможно мой мод будет бесполезен,но всё таки просто напишу :з
Next day!
03:11:989 (4) - вот тут можно сделать слайдер
просто это вроде изи,если не ошибаюсь
http://puu.sh/4alLu.jpg
Next week!!
00:38:239 (2) - 00:38:708 (3) - вот тут можно сделать звуки софт и свистульки или же только на третей ноте
01:41:286 (1) - 01:41:989 (2) - тоже самое,но тут на конце слайдера или на второй ноте
Вот и всё.
Очень понравилась мапа,удачи тебе! :)
Topic Starter
Aleks719
добавил свистулек, спасибо за мод и вообще о/
Reiji-RJ
No changes, thanks all for mods!
mancuso_JM_
Hi! Random mod!! :D

[General:]

Difficulties Name: I was looking that and I think it sounds more fitting the following ones: Next day! - Next month! (yeah, instead of Next week) - Next year!
With that, I mean that Next week! doesn't fit a lot in that sequence, I think Next month! is better. Well, take that in consideration at least, please.

[Next day!]

- Maybe add a little storyboard with each mapper section? Or at least, add that information in ''Creators Words'' xD

• 00:13:396 (1,1) - The distance between the spinner and the object are a bit low imo, even if the BPM is a bit low, you should try other veriety to fix that. You can maybe use a single note in 00:17:614 - instead of the 1/1 slider, I think the beat in 00:17:146 is not totally necessary to be followed.
• 00:35:896 (1,2) - I'd avoid 1/1 stacks in this difficulty, looking that you have some stacked 1/2 patterns later. This can cause confusion in New players, definetly, so yeah.. Unstack this please
• 00:36:364 (2) - Make this Slider 1/2 bigger, actually is not following anything in the music. Doing that, you are going to follow vocals, and this sound in the instrumental that sound like a bell :P
• 00:48:786 - I'd add a Soft (addition) Whistle here in this reverse arrow. It'll follow properly the ''bells''
• 00:52:536 - (^) (Apply that in similar places if you agree with me)
• 00:53:474 (3,4) - I don't recommend the usage of compress pattern, and less in 1/2.. it'll cause confusion in new players. I suggest you to keep the spacing consistent and use a 1/2 slider instead to make it easier for New players
• 00:59:099 - Same as before, I'd use a soft (addition) Whistle here.
• 01:10:349 (3) - That normal whistle at the slider end sounds really random to me :/. Was it that intentional?
• 01:32:146 (1,2) - Yeah.. Avoid 1/1 Stacks as I mentioned before, to make it the life ''better'' to new players :P
• 01:43:630 (1,1) - If I listen properly the music, the first Spinner should finish 1/2 back (in 01:46:677), and the second one should start 1/2 back as well (in 01:46:911), this is to follow better the background in the music. In addition, you did something similar in 00:39:880 (1,1).. So, it'll be consistent too.
• 01:51:833 (2,3) - Well, In this case a compress pattern fits properly because they are two ''long'' Sliders in 1/2.. I'd use a 0.5x between these sliders, as it was done in 01:40:114 (2,3) for example
• 01:59:333 (2,3) - (^)
• 02:04:021 (3,4) - Avoid 1/1 stacks, inmediatly you have a 1/2 stack and these kind of changes can be hard for new players as I said before
• 02:32:146 (1,2) - (^)
• 02:49:021 (1,1) - As I said in my first suggestion here, the distance between the Spinner end and the note is pretty short. You should try other variation here :/
• 03:04:021 (1,1) - (^)
• 03:11:286 (3,4,5,6) - Yes, this compressed pattern with notes in 1/2 is not a good thing for a Easy, believe me.. You can reduce a bit the spacing but not that much as you did here, I recommend you to use a (1/2) Slider instead of (4,5) (You can keep the last note if you want)

Last thing: Try to keep consistency in hitsounds between the Kiai sections, guys. It is pretty weird to listen Normal Whistles in the second chorus but not in the others.

- Good, but inconsistent sometimes. I know that is a Collab, but I know that you guys have a similar style, I hope you can fix Spacing/hitsounds inconsistencies (I mentioned most of them in my mod).
Btw, the diff. is a bit hard for an Easy, but it fits for the easiest diff. in the mapset anyway :P


[Next week!]

• 00:19:021 (1) - I find this combo a bit short (the same for the previous one), so I'd remove this one.
• 00:36:599 (3,1) - The flow between these Sliders is a bit weird to me. I think a Ctrl+H in (3) with some spacing fix will make the flow better
• 00:41:755 (4) - Dunno if that Whistle at the slider end is really necessary.. If I were you, I'd remove it
• 00:42:927 (2,3) - Swap these Whistle placement (?
• 01:31:911 (4,2) - It will looks much better if you fix this overlap, it affects a bit during the gameplay. So, yeah.. fix it please
• 01:45:505 (4) - Same as 00:36:599
• 01:46:677 (2,3) - Same as 00:42:927
• 02:10:349 (2) - You should make a flip vertically (Ctrl+J) in this Slider, the pattern between (3,1,2) will be nicer to see, and the flow between (2,1) will increase after to do that.
• 02:20:896 (3) - I'd place this note in x:100 y:272 to give it other variety to the map. In addition, looks better for me :P
• 02:31:442 (x) - I find the usage of a note coherent here.. You should give it a try
• 02:41:052 (1) - Remove this New combo, it doesn't make to much sense imo
• 03:16:911 (Spin) - Instead of a Soft finish, use a Whistle in this Spinner. When he says ''When Can I see you again?'' you always place Normal Whistles, so this is for consistency.. If you want, you can also place a Normal finish

- Pretty Good.. I'm not going to nazi'ing you anyway xD..

[Next year!]

• 00:19:021 (1,2,3) - The music here, is similar as the pattern placed in 00:22:771 (1,2,3,4) but you used diferent alternatives, in the first you used an antijump in the second a little jump. Would be better if you are consistent with that and use the same alternative in both places, I personally think that the jumpy is the better option.
• 00:36:247 (2,3) - *So Nazi* - Move (2) to x:88 y:260 and (3) to x:68 y:268.. Doing that, these notes will fit exactly with the curve of the previous (1) if you know what I mean

- Some jumps look a bit random, but this is not that critical, they fits in some way still xD. Other than that, nice diff!

That's all frome me!!
I'll probably check this some day in the future if I have time
Good Luck! ;)
IceBeam
thanks!

mine + Reiji's fixes here - http://www.mediafire.com/?8p6wkjxz91ytumy

I fixed that lonely whistle,but idk what to with whistles in 2nd chorus,because Reiji mapped similar part in 1st and 3rd chorus,that's why there's inconsisteny. and also idk what's wrong with 1/1 stacks =\ used them in my easy diffs whole life,so left w/o changes,sorry

@ Reiji: I wish you used that whistles' rhytm in your parts,if not,remove mine too
Topic Starter
Aleks719

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Hi! Random mod!! :D

[General:]

Difficulties Name: I was looking that and I think it sounds more fitting the following ones: Next day! - Next month! (yeah, instead of Next week) - Next year!
With that, I mean that Next week! doesn't fit a lot in that sequence, I think Next month! is better. Well, take that in consideration at least, please. it will be too pessimistic. also i tried to show kind of gap between week and year (it doesn't mean i want to fill it cuz it's not so big, lol).

[Next week!]
Fixed everything except
• 02:20:896 (3) - I'd place this note in x:100 y:272 to give it other variety to the map. In addition, looks better for me :P because i didn't find it looking good :S

[Next year!]
Fixed everything
thank you for mod, mancuso! it was pleasant and unexpected orz
mancuso_JM_

IceBeam wrote:

and also idk what's wrong with 1/1 stacks =\ used them in my easy diffs whole life,so left w/o changes,sorry
Just wanted to reply at this.. Yes, is not a bad thing, but when you have 1/1 and 1/2 stacks they are kinda ''hard'' to new players, is better if you keep stacks only in a snap divisor and not doing stacks in different ones.
Well, that's my thought.. I wouldn't do that in my easy diffs. in general, I don't use stack, but if I use 1/1 and 1/2 in my Easy, I'd only use 1/1 stacks or 1/2 stacks but not both of them..

Hope you can understanding it..

Go Go! Aleks! xDD
Reiji-RJ
@IceBeam: I don't like these whistles, sorry D:
p3n
Maybe change the color of the Artist/Title to something like Red/Blue to match the Ralph-theme?

[Next Day!]
Personally, I wouldn't use stacks in a beginner's difficulty at all. Everytime I let some 1st-time osu!-players play easy maps they mess up the stacks. Usually they can't read them at all. I'm conflicted though...the stacks kinda fit here. WHAT TO DO????



How am I supposed to mod this, Owleks? There seems to be nothing. I'd like to read IceBeam's and Reiji's opinion on the stacks in the beginner's difficulty before I waste some hours only to find nothing wrong.
Reiji-RJ
About 1/2 stacks: I think they are played MUCH better and easier than 1/2 non-stacks and look good too.
About 1/1 stacks: I don't have them in my parts, so we are waiting for IceBeam
IceBeam
well personally I never was against stacks (except blue ticks) and always used them in my easier diffs, because I don't like the idea of primitive knocking out the notes using the same repetitive rhythm. thus we kinda made a diff, trying our best to use as many notes as possible,but still trying to keep it rhythmic,basing on simple 1/1 clap rhythm. so stacked notes should be pretty intuitive to follow and hit..if the player doesn't hear the rhythm and misshits,perhaps, giving him some tries to get it isn't bad at all,my opinion

though if it still troubles you I don't mind to remap those patterns 8-)
mancuso_JM_

Reiji-RJ wrote:

About 1/2 stacks: I think they are played MUCH better and easier than 1/2 non-stacks and look good too.
About 1/1 stacks: I don't have them in my parts, so we are waiting for IceBeam
Yey! This was exacty what I said before, unstacking the 1/1 will make the map easier to read for new players, 1/1+1/2 stacks mixed can be a trouble I think :P, so keeping only the 1/2 will be the best solution..
/me runs*
Reiji-RJ

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Yey! This was exacty what I said before, unstacking the 1/1 will make the map easier to read for new players, 1/1+1/2 stacks mixed can be a trouble I think :P, so keeping only the 1/2 will be the best solution..
/me runs*
Agree with you!
IceBeam
to boost up the ranking I completely removed 1/1 stacks. SO GO REVIVE,BUB,RANK

NOW

http://www.mediafire.com/?4hucmpqvc47co6z
Topic Starter
Aleks719
k,sir



updated~
p3n
[Next day!]
01:51:833 (2,3) - this slider combo and...
01:59:333 (2,3) - ...this slider combo are stacked differently from every other slider combo in the collab (like this: 01:36:364 (2,3) - )

I think stacking circle + slider as doubles is totally fine if you think it is appropriate for this level of difficulty as well.



Obviously no kd for this little post. Send me a messenger-owl with a reply to the slider-difference and we can get this on track (better late than never?)
p3n
When? I think it is time... (>O_O)>
mancuso_JM_
I think it is my time..

Next Day:

  1. 02:27:927 - Add a Note maybe? the pitch here is higher than 02:28:396 - and is better, and will be more predictable at the time to click the first note after the break.
  2. 03:06:364 (1) - Remove this one instead, is kinda fast after the spinner and it is not really necessary to be sincere. Is ok to keep the others because in some way they are ok for the diff. because most of them are sliders instead of single notes.
- A bit hard for a Easy, but fits definetly as the easiest diff. in the mapset, so I don't have anything else to complain :P

Next Week:

  1. 01:02:614 (2) - Clap instead of whistle as you did in Next Year.
  2. 01:06:364 (1) - (^)
  3. 01:10:114 (1) - (^) (conisder doing that in the other chorus too).
  4. 02:27:927 - 02:28:396 - Add notes in this places as I mentioned in ''Next Day'' (?
- You should add some other clap in chorus too, maybe it is your hitsounding pattern but those claps sounds missed and it provides a bad effect.

Well.. Consider this stuff and call me back pls :P
No kds here pls!
Topic Starter
Aleks719

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

I think it is my time..

Next Day:

  1. 02:27:927 - Add a Note maybe? the pitch here is higher than 02:28:396 - and is better, and will be more predictable at the time to click the first note after the break. yeah, wanted to do by my own too, moved next note 1/2 later. it fits vocals better
  2. 03:06:364 (1) - Remove this one instead, is kinda fast after the spinner and it is not really necessary to be sincere. Is ok to keep the others because in some way they are ok for the diff. because most of them are sliders instead of single notes. ok
Next Week:

everything has been done + minor changes with hitsounds in another places

No kds here pls! sorry, can't apply this
mancuso_JM_

Aleks719 wrote:

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

No kds here pls! sorry, can't apply this
D:.. I said no...
Anyway, this is so good xD
Ranked!
kyuuu_old
Congratz, this map is fun and i love Wreck-It Ralph (I just saw this movie today ♥)
p3n
Good job Owleks! (ovo)
Aurele
Beautiful song ♥
IceBeam
oh god why that note on red tick in super relaxing part that doesn't fit to everything up there .-. I wasn't trying to follow lyrics there at all.......
*sigh*

well,gratz with rank,Saшka
Natteke desu
конгуратзу
Mont Blanc_old

EvilElvisV2 wrote:

конгуратзу
Kyouren
Gratzz!! Aleks719!!
Zare
Did this song hurt you or something

or why do you try to kill the rhythm and overall feeling of it by all available means with this map

oh look 800 posts
Gero
Very good! Map! Congratz!
Lissette
Nice map!!<3
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