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Echo wrote:

@derekku: then lynch strager today and me tomorrow. It's not like you can lynch two people on the same day. If we're both mafia, it won't make a difference. I don't mind dying, if it'll help townies win. It's a team game after all.
If you want to take one for the team, why don't you do it now?

Here, I'll help.

Vote: Echo

Echo wrote:

@strager: then tell me why anyone should be listening to you.
What are you citing to come to this 'conclusion' exactly?
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strager wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

That means you are mafia? :<
I am not a Mafia.
Funny, that's exactly what someone who is in the mafia would say

vote stra-

lol
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You're refusing to defend yourself against my evidence, and you're refusing to bring any evidence against me, yet you claim you are townie and I am mafia?

I think the simple answer is that there is no evidence you can use to defend yourself, and there is no evidence you can bring against me. Which means you are mafia, and I am townie.
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Actually Echo..

0_o wrote:

Echo wrote:

0_o wrote:

So.. you are saying that the mafia is incapable of coming up with a valid reason to lynch someone?
That is exactly what I'm saying. There should be no evidence in posts against townies, which means mafia won't be able to bring up a valid reason to lynch a townie.
Why not? Humans come up with "evidence" against other humans to lynch them, the only difference is that the mafia actually knows that they are lynching a human.
any response to this?
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Townies will be able to convincingly bring evidence to show that the evidence used against them is misguided.
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Echo wrote:

You're refusing to defend yourself against my evidence, and you're refusing to bring any evidence against me, yet you claim you are townie and I am mafia?

I think the simple answer is that there is no evidence you can use to defend yourself, and there is no evidence you can bring against me. Which means you are mafia, and I am townie.
Echo brings up good points. :/

Vot- Nah.

FOS: strager (because it wasn't already obvious </sarcasm>)
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Echo wrote:

Townies will be able to convincingly bring evidence to show that the evidence used against them is misguided.
I think you're mistaken.

Townies will be able to present a LACK of evidence in the claims of those against them.
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strager wrote:

Echo wrote:

You're refusing to defend yourself against my evidence, and you're refusing to bring any evidence against me, yet you claim you are townie and I am mafia?

I think the simple answer is that there is no evidence you can use to defend yourself, and there is no evidence you can bring against me. Which means you are mafia, and I am townie.
That doesn't explain this at all:

Echo wrote:

@strager: then tell me why anyone should be listening to you.
which is what I asked about.

You're saying even if I defend myself I shouldn't be believed, and even if I attack you I shouldn't be believed?
You're not defending yourself good enough. If you do it right, people will believe you. =)
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Stop twisting my words.

I'm saying if you can't defend yourself, then there is no reason why anyone should believe what you say. If you can defend yourself, then that proves you're not mafia, and what you say holds legitimate value.

  1. Assume what everyone is saying is true
  2. Find evidence to show that a person is likely lying. From this point on assume everything he says is false.
  3. That person defends himself.
  4. Given that the person does so convincingly, assume from this point on everything he says is true. Otherwise, he is likely mafia and should be lynched.
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Echo wrote:

Stop twisting my words.
But it's so fun.

Echo wrote:

I'm saying if you can't defend yourself, then there is no reason why anyone should believe what you say. If you can defend yourself, then that proves you're not mafia, and what you say holds legitimate value.
I'm sure a Mafia can convincingly defend themself too, smart one.

Echo wrote:

  1. Assume what everyone is saying is true
  2. Find evidence to show that a person is likely lying. From this point on assume everything he says is false.
  3. That person defends himself.
  4. Given that the person does so convincingly, assume from this point on everything he says is true. Otherwise, he is likely mafia and should be lynched.
And this logic has gotten you how far in Mafia games?
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strager wrote:

Echo wrote:

I'm saying if you can't defend yourself, then there is no reason why anyone should believe what you say. If you can defend yourself, then that proves you're not mafia, and what you say holds legitimate value.
I'm sure a Mafia can convincingly defend themself too, smart one.
Good to see you know you're not doing a very good job of it.

strager wrote:

Echo wrote:

  1. Assume what everyone is saying is true
  2. Find evidence to show that a person is likely lying. From this point on assume everything he says is false.
  3. That person defends himself.
  4. Given that the person does so convincingly, assume from this point on everything he says is true. Otherwise, he is likely mafia and should be lynched.
And this logic has gotten you how far in Mafia games?
page 26 so far, I believe
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And this logic has gotten you how far in Mafia games?
His logic does get him killed quickly in mafia games, but it's usually because the assassins are scared of him ;)
Trust me, I know.

EDIT: bleh I think I misunderstood that post anyway. good night.
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I only won in Mafia 1 because I had the strategic forsight to take Echo (important to the structual integrity of the humans) out day 1 if he had been kept alive I would have lost on LyLo.

That, is exactly where Echo's logic would have gotten him.
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I would also like to selfishly request that the real doctor, if such a role exists, protect me during the night.
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I'm with adam/0_o. Echo is effing good at these games, and that's why he keeps getting killed off quickly; People are scared of him. :P

Why I'm still up at 5:30am I don't know.

/me falls asleep
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If you're relying on me, or are biased in any way just because you think I'm good at this game (honestly, I'm not that good), then you're completely missing the point.

Now if you're scared of me, that's a different story ^^

BOO
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I am quite definitley not relying on you, first time I heavily suspect you of being Mafia, I will lynch you.
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よろしくおねがいしま~す
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