Yeah it's really bad. So much afking and people who give up after they die once. MOBA's in general need to punish leaving games harsher than they currently do. I can't think of any ways off my head but surely there is a solution.Vulf wrote:
Now I know why I stopped playing this game for 2 months. Matchmaking is terrible.
These games are impossible to carry when there is an afk.
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I really like the prisoner island type queue Dota 2 has or if someone is AFK long enough you can just leave with no penalty.
Last I heard you can't play ranked games if you fall under 50% goodwill, but they could have changed that by now. Ranked is more serious though and it would be nice if they had something similar in the normals like a special queue type you have to play a certain amount of games to get out of. Of course the amount of games would depend on how often you rage quit so people who have a random disconnect won't get punished too harshly if at all.
Last I heard you can't play ranked games if you fall under 50% goodwill, but they could have changed that by now. Ranked is more serious though and it would be nice if they had something similar in the normals like a special queue type you have to play a certain amount of games to get out of. Of course the amount of games would depend on how often you rage quit so people who have a random disconnect won't get punished too harshly if at all.
I have 30 DCs :/ no ragequits, 5 come from dodges in grab bag when getting an ADC (like, I get them all the time). Better for my team, actually. The other ones are crashes. HiRez report and support is a joke.
Had an Arachne today in Joust 3v3 that bought teleport to gods and meditation. Like PLEA GET ME OUT. Med ain't that bad (eye is bader lol), but it's like picking Hades Support when Wukong/Odin is open.
Also, Assault: reroll, got Kali. Yesh carry time, enemy Ares and Scylla get 4 kills before 2 min mark <.< Like some of my teammates didn't get over level 8 at the 10 min mark. Accidently bought sprint early game so they just CCd me down and killed me q.q https://account.hirezstudios.com/smitegame/match-details.aspx?match=67014481
Also Kumba why u buy Eye?
Had an Arachne today in Joust 3v3 that bought teleport to gods and meditation. Like PLEA GET ME OUT. Med ain't that bad (eye is bader lol), but it's like picking Hades Support when Wukong/Odin is open.
Also, Assault: reroll, got Kali. Yesh carry time, enemy Ares and Scylla get 4 kills before 2 min mark <.< Like some of my teammates didn't get over level 8 at the 10 min mark. Accidently bought sprint early game so they just CCd me down and killed me q.q https://account.hirezstudios.com/smitegame/match-details.aspx?match=67014481
Also Kumba why u buy Eye?
DotA 2 players teached me how to curse in foreign languages.
Tyr is extremly annoying for Arachne, Bastet and Kali Since they have no form of CC immunity or will it have removed = Tyr can play volleyball with his fearless + cleave. Bakasura has way better potential to deal with Tyr, since he just cuts his Fearless Volley shit if u Beads and ult afterwards.Soulclenz wrote:
Alright, ran into a new problem last night.
What is the best way to deal with Tyr on assassin Gods? I found that anytime he decided I was the one to die, by the time he was finished his combo juggle nonsense, I was at like 30% hp... Do beads prevent the knock up of his attacks? I got absolutely destroyed by him on Arachne, but she has no mobility so I'm not too surprised there, but I also got picked off quite easily on Bastet and Kali as well. Am I just bad? o.o
Tyrs Kit is 75% CC, the only part not doing CC is his 3 which gives him buffs and lets him apply even more CC. His passive gets especially stupid vs Mercury since you can't knock him up properly. He's OP in every gamestage. Just pray everytime he isn't in the enemy team.
Also PSA for Kali: get beads and/or magis blessing. Sprint isn't that important.
In joust I can understand why teleport to gods is bad, but in conquest it can be really good with certain comps. You can argue that you can ward properly, but that doesn't always happen well in solo queue.
They really need to lower the cost of the TP to gods item though. CD is justified for what it does.
They really need to lower the cost of the TP to gods item though. CD is justified for what it does.
Nu Wa lategame with teleport to gods/wards is just a pain: She can solo a phoenix really fast with minions + poly + towerdamaging abilitys and basic attack buffs and gets out really fast/can't be spottet by wards because of her "stealth".Vulf wrote:
In joust I can understand why teleport to gods is bad, but in conquest it can be really good with certain comps. You can argue that you can ward properly, but that doesn't always happen well in solo queue.
They really need to lower the cost of the TP to gods item though. CD is justified for what it does.
I've won so many games from split pushing it isn't even funny anymore. My team gets so mad at me when I do it too, but they don't realize Fenrir is pretty much worthless in team fights if people are smart enough to buy beads.
Often instead of just backing off from our towers they send someone solo to defend against me and more than half the time it's one of their mages that I just one shot and continue to take towers or a pheonix. If they send a Warrior or a Guardian I just teleport to someone and force a fight. It's a pretty dumb strat to be honest. It works in League and Dota as well.
Global presence will always 100% be effective in these type of games. With that said I almost always run TP on Fenrir since he doesn't really need blink or sprint every game seeing as he has 3 escapes 2 of which are on a very short CD if you get CDR.
Often instead of just backing off from our towers they send someone solo to defend against me and more than half the time it's one of their mages that I just one shot and continue to take towers or a pheonix. If they send a Warrior or a Guardian I just teleport to someone and force a fight. It's a pretty dumb strat to be honest. It works in League and Dota as well.
Global presence will always 100% be effective in these type of games. With that said I almost always run TP on Fenrir since he doesn't really need blink or sprint every game seeing as he has 3 escapes 2 of which are on a very short CD if you get CDR.
Adapting split pushing into Smite is wise. I find it strange that a lot of players prefer killing heroes over completing objectives, in any moba. I haven't watched a pro Smite match, but in dota2, the killcount is very low for the majority of matches these days. The players are so focused on objectives that big team fights are less preferable.
I think a lot of the new players (and low skilled) treat the game like a pvp arena where you just mindless kill each other over and over. It can work sometimes, but it will eventually get to the point people will just outplay you with objectives and get an exp and gold advantage.
Hm. I just read the patch notes they just added, and can say I'm quite pleased with them. Since I play mostly assassin role, I feel my impact in the mid-late game will be more noticeable. Really glad to see that Tyr got some nerfs, along with warriors in general.
I wonder how Janus will play out. He seems extremely useful but I shudder at the idea of someone bad playing him and putting portals in the worst of spots.
I wonder how Janus will play out. He seems extremely useful but I shudder at the idea of someone bad playing him and putting portals in the worst of spots.
People will just go back to guardians like Ares and Ymir who can be really problematic for Assassins with their great CC. Difference is you won't die to them, but you probably won't kill them either unless you are like super mega fed.
Yeah I hope so. Athena 4 ever 
You is Rawkstar! And ward skins are so expensive but i still want them
IDK how to counterbuild, but to counter Hide of the Nemean Lion you have to get lifesteal and pen right?
Tried it out and it worked (Passive: Reflects 20% of all basic attack damage back to the attacker as magical damage). It also gives 80 Phys protection... and is cheap
Below is the match, it worked. But I kinda always beaded her stun and stunned her back, which was effective because her buff from the 3 ran out.
And first master is Peyan, Joust league. 171 wins and 18 losses (how to have no life). Conquest hasn't got a master :/
You is Rawkstar! And ward skins are so expensive but i still want them IDK how to counterbuild, but to counter Hide of the Nemean Lion you have to get lifesteal and pen right?
Tried it out and it worked (Passive: Reflects 20% of all basic attack damage back to the attacker as magical damage). It also gives 80 Phys protection... and is cheap
Below is the match, it worked. But I kinda always beaded her stun and stunned her back, which was effective because her buff from the 3 ran out.
And first master is Peyan, Joust league. 171 wins and 18 losses (how to have no life). Conquest hasn't got a master :/
Hide of the Nemean Lion is primarily used to counter physical attackers so yes life steal is the best option for you (the attacker) to counter the reflect damage. Health and MR help too.
Hide feels like the best counter as physical vs a physical basic attacker. Got it once as Freya in a 1v1, he got magical dev and the bonus damage from it got useless...
Still, this item is not balanced for joust league... like people litteraly rush it when I play Kali. But since the last changes lifesteal got way better compared to Rage, and Devos gloves are more affordable so Hide looses its purpose. It still is good due too 80 phys protections and 300 health or something like that...
Still, this item is not balanced for joust league... like people litteraly rush it when I play Kali. But since the last changes lifesteal got way better compared to Rage, and Devos gloves are more affordable so Hide looses its purpose. It still is good due too 80 phys protections and 300 health or something like that...
That's still very cost effective for the stats it gives and for that price not even including the passive.
Honestly I think a lot of the tank items in this game are way too good which was why I was kinda surprised they nerfed almost all the penetration items.
Honestly I think a lot of the tank items in this game are way too good which was why I was kinda surprised they nerfed almost all the penetration items.
I have no words for this.
Also, when you play 1v1 and get asked if you like Game of Thrones answer no if you like it. Next message I got was: Spoilers or gg. Report for spoilers.
Matchmaking is just gg, Smite is the 19th most played game for pc counted by raptr, no excuses with small playerbase. When I get matched against HalfDevil at 2 am, ok. But jousting against people with 500 more elo and 2 leagues above me is just pointless. Why did they even make Joust ranked q.q
Pre-30 maybe?
I didn't even know there was a long/short lane until someone pointed it out when I was like level 10.
Bigger games like dota 2 and LoL's MM can be just as horrid. Going to have to just deal with it.
I didn't even know there was a long/short lane until someone pointed it out when I was like level 10.
Bigger games like dota 2 and LoL's MM can be just as horrid. Going to have to just deal with it.
I understand that MM is hard with 5 players per team. But in a 1v1... and since you can see the elo on player profiles and you see 2.4k elo and 400 wins at some of my opponents :/
Why is high mobility stuff so much fun? played a lot of Athena, Mercury and Neith lately. Athena solo is so much fun, you can ult the mid always when midharpies are up and get free exp without loosing exp in lane Also won a 3v1 with Neith because weave triple stun and under leveled enemy support and jungler. Agni is also quite fun. Almost got the 1000 games mark Played too much lately
There will be a new Xbalanque skin, with a recolor included (kinda like Redstar and Winter Olympian). Even if I don't like football, the ultimate is awesome! Darkest of nights in green just looks cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9OAHqsT5UU you get both skins + the ward skin for 600 gems i heard which is a pretty nice deal.
Why is high mobility stuff so much fun? played a lot of Athena, Mercury and Neith lately. Athena solo is so much fun, you can ult the mid always when midharpies are up and get free exp without loosing exp in lane
Also won a 3v1 with Neith because weave triple stun and under leveled enemy support and jungler. Agni is also quite fun. Almost got the 1000 games mark Played too much latelyThere will be a new Xbalanque skin, with a recolor included (kinda like Redstar and Winter Olympian). Even if I don't like football, the ultimate is awesome! Darkest of nights in green just looks cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9OAHqsT5UU you get both skins + the ward skin for 600 gems i heard which is a pretty nice deal.
You can get Zeus + Almighty Zeus skin and some steam games for $1 from the humble bundle right now.
Really good deal seeing as the skin is 400 gems in game.
https://www.humblebundle.com/twitche3
Really good deal seeing as the skin is 400 gems in game.
https://www.humblebundle.com/twitche3
I wish I would have my credit card in one piece to pay the humble bumble :/ gotta get a new one soon.
I use paypal for all the humble bundles.
If I would have saw your post sooner I would have given you a key since I bought a bunch for friends. I think they were all claimed on facebook already. lol
I played a game that was a 4v5 and all the people on the enemy team was level 30 while everyone on my team was in a range from 5-24. Game somehow went to 65 minutes probably because they couldn't push against our comp (we had 3 mages, an assassin and a hunter). Enemy team threw because we caught 3 of them in a very bad position and killed them and pushed an won since they had like an 80 second death timer. LOL
In the end we didn't deserve to win that game because everyone was raging at each other, but apparently the Fenrir on the other team was pretty freakin toxic as well but w/e.
B> better match making pls.
If I would have saw your post sooner I would have given you a key since I bought a bunch for friends. I think they were all claimed on facebook already. lol
I played a game that was a 4v5 and all the people on the enemy team was level 30 while everyone on my team was in a range from 5-24. Game somehow went to 65 minutes probably because they couldn't push against our comp (we had 3 mages, an assassin and a hunter). Enemy team threw because we caught 3 of them in a very bad position and killed them and pushed an won since they had like an 80 second death timer. LOL
In the end we didn't deserve to win that game because everyone was raging at each other, but apparently the Fenrir on the other team was pretty freakin toxic as well but w/e.
B> better match making pls.
I dont' have pay pal 
haha that would have been nice^^ i don't play zeus anyway and my actually played steam game is only civ 5. The Skin sales are damn cool, and Ra murica is kinda awesome. It even was on the /r/gaming frontpage a time. They could do so much with a vp for this skin. The next god looks like a damn awesome hunter (Rama).
Well... Matchmaking OP. They said they'll look over the queues and change matchmaking. Idk why they removed elo from the profile pages or the order in ranked, but according to HiRez employees they look over the issues... But in ranked, it's sometimes on purpose that you get matched with higher tiers. You'll get a ninja promotion after according to your skilllevel (Got ninja promoted from Bronze to Gold 1, dafuq). At least I don't have to stomp Sprint Meditation players anymore...
But sometimes I feed my brain out... because reasons. And chase Lokis in Joust while my titan is attacked by fire minions. It isn't on purpose and doesn't depend on my enemies. Or loose solo lane vs Arachne. RIP Stats. My Scoreboard is either Red or Green, nothing between.
haha that would have been nice^^ i don't play zeus anyway and my actually played steam game is only civ 5. The Skin sales are damn cool, and Ra murica is kinda awesome. It even was on the /r/gaming frontpage a time. They could do so much with a vp for this skin. The next god looks like a damn awesome hunter (Rama).Well... Matchmaking OP. They said they'll look over the queues and change matchmaking. Idk why they removed elo from the profile pages or the order in ranked, but according to HiRez employees they look over the issues... But in ranked, it's sometimes on purpose that you get matched with higher tiers. You'll get a ninja promotion after according to your skilllevel (Got ninja promoted from Bronze to Gold 1, dafuq). At least I don't have to stomp Sprint Meditation players anymore...
But sometimes I feed my brain out... because reasons. And chase Lokis in Joust while my titan is attacked by fire minions. It isn't on purpose and doesn't depend on my enemies. Or loose solo lane vs Arachne. RIP Stats. My Scoreboard is either Red or Green, nothing between.
These patch notes. lol
New Fenrir skin and Fenrir buffs!
New items.
That 20 extra AD on his Howl is huge for the mid game.
New Fenrir skin and Fenrir buffs!
New items.
That 20 extra AD on his Howl is huge for the mid game.
I'm really bad at upgrading my actives, like 99% of my games are just rank 1 active item. I should put a sticky note on my monitor or something to remind me when I'm playing.
I never had this problem, except forgetting HoG3 as support lol. Mine is more like getting them to early. This is bad if you realize later that another one is more important or would fit more. And the skins... what will happen with my spare gems q.q Now they just need to buff Arachne and give Chang'e something other in her kit then an ultimate.Soulclenz wrote:
I'm really bad at upgrading my actives, like 99% of my games are just rank 1 active item. I should put a sticky note on my monitor or something to remind me when I'm playing.
They will add flag icons, they named the Swedish icon Norway. Not seen a Swiss one but I'm neutral about it Kappa.
There has been a few games where I left the HoG at rank 2 because of the CD difference which is huge for split pushing. I split push a lot in this game. I only really get WoG if FG and Fury are heavily contested which isn't often in my games.
My second active is always something depending how the game is. I really like protected recall and shielded teleport when I split push. I really like Aegis amulet because I can initiate fights with that because people immediately blow their CC on you when you jump into them and Fenrir is way too squishy (even with tank items) to build beads for the same effect warriors get.
My second active is always something depending how the game is. I really like protected recall and shielded teleport when I split push. I really like Aegis amulet because I can initiate fights with that because people immediately blow their CC on you when you jump into them and Fenrir is way too squishy (even with tank items) to build beads for the same effect warriors get.
I haven't given Aegis enough of a chance, but then again I rarely play Fenrir.Vulf wrote:
There has been a few games where I left the HoG at rank 2 because of the CD difference which is huge for split pushing. I split push a lot in this game. I only really get WoG if FG and Fury are heavily contested which isn't often in my games.
My second active is always something depending how the game is. I really like protected recall and shielded teleport when I split push. I really like Aegis amulet because I can initiate fights with that because people immediately blow their CC on you when you jump into them and Fenrir is way too squishy (even with tank items) to build beads for the same effect warriors get.
I've been playing a lot of Arachne currently despite her feeling like a meh God to pick overall. How do you guys think they should buff her to improve her? Or is she fine the way she is?
I still have nightmares playing against the old OP Arachne jungle so I really don't want that god to be good again. I think her kit is too stupid to just change numbers and call it a day. I wouldn't mind seeing a majority of her kit remade, but thats just me and I know Arachne fans wouldn't want that. I mean I would be super upset if they reworked Fenrir even though his main issue is just CC and beads being broken as fuck.
Beads Aegis are the 2 hard hard counters to loki, imo beads is already enough. Also, if you face a Freya and her ult bothers you, get the walking aegis thing and she can't harm you.
I kinda hope they rework arachne into a guardian or something. Even if her damage numbers would be doubled, her ganks are extremly weak, even weaker if there are wards and if a jungler can't gank it's pointless. And she has to "Siege up" with eggs and stuff before she can gank so she gets predictable. Her clear is amazing though and the early game 1v1 boxing potential too. Siege is better for her, the corners that you simply don't ward are her home. That new item... I love it for 1v1 vs mages. CDR, Power and protection. Finally a good item giving sustain that is suited for assassins.
Picked up some level 10 players that wrote me a PM on reddit. It is somehow funny to look how much they concentrate to use the vgs, or how they always think a few times if they should attack when I stun someone. Told them about beads and how to counter certain gods, it's quite fun and they are way better then me back then.
I kinda hope they rework arachne into a guardian or something. Even if her damage numbers would be doubled, her ganks are extremly weak, even weaker if there are wards and if a jungler can't gank it's pointless. And she has to "Siege up" with eggs and stuff before she can gank so she gets predictable. Her clear is amazing though and the early game 1v1 boxing potential too. Siege is better for her, the corners that you simply don't ward are her home. That new item... I love it for 1v1 vs mages. CDR, Power and protection. Finally a good item giving sustain that is suited for assassins.
Picked up some level 10 players that wrote me a PM on reddit. It is somehow funny to look how much they concentrate to use the vgs, or how they always think a few times if they should attack when I stun someone. Told them about beads and how to counter certain gods, it's quite fun and they are way better then me back then.
I still don't know how to use the vgs properly. Why can't I set it to my own macro's first of all? Would make my life so much easier if I could bind some of them to different keys.
Why did they remove the auto skill level feature? Not every god has situational level up spells or wants to abuse the level skip at 4 and 8.
Never used the auto buy.
That new stacking item Ancile is really good. Combo it with other stacking items like Devourer's gloves and it's pretty dumb at full stacks.
Why did they remove the auto skill level feature? Not every god has situational level up spells or wants to abuse the level skip at 4 and 8.
Never used the auto buy.
That new stacking item Ancile is really good. Combo it with other stacking items like Devourer's gloves and it's pretty dumb at full stacks.
Hmmmm, alright, this has happened enough times to merit me asking about it.
Do they plan on implementing a type of backdoor protection or am I just dealing with this all wrong? I was having some games last night and to my frustration, I was matched against the same Nu Wa player 3 times. Every single time she would just focus on backdooring towers with her little army dudes when our creeps were way up the lane and we were elsewhere, by the time we'd react she would retreat, and even if she did die, the damage was done and it was well worth her trip. Inevitably she would just backdoor our phoenix and we'd just lose in a miserable manner.
I guess my question is, what is the best way to deal with this (imo) ridiculous playstyle?
In dota2, towers heal if none of your creeps have hit it and you try to backdoor it, I wonder if something like that will ever see the light of day in Smite. I'm ok with someone running up and popping a tower that is sitting at 1% hp, or if 3-5 farmed players overpower the backdoor healing, but to backdoor from full to zero in a matter of 2'ish trips seems way too beneficial. It really killed my desire to continue playing when i saw it.
ETA: I guess I should state that I was playing Arachne in both games, and since they had an Ares in their lineup i had HoG + beads as my actives, so quick travel to towers wasn't possible to me.
Do they plan on implementing a type of backdoor protection or am I just dealing with this all wrong? I was having some games last night and to my frustration, I was matched against the same Nu Wa player 3 times. Every single time she would just focus on backdooring towers with her little army dudes when our creeps were way up the lane and we were elsewhere, by the time we'd react she would retreat, and even if she did die, the damage was done and it was well worth her trip. Inevitably she would just backdoor our phoenix and we'd just lose in a miserable manner.
I guess my question is, what is the best way to deal with this (imo) ridiculous playstyle?
In dota2, towers heal if none of your creeps have hit it and you try to backdoor it, I wonder if something like that will ever see the light of day in Smite. I'm ok with someone running up and popping a tower that is sitting at 1% hp, or if 3-5 farmed players overpower the backdoor healing, but to backdoor from full to zero in a matter of 2'ish trips seems way too beneficial. It really killed my desire to continue playing when i saw it.
ETA: I guess I should state that I was playing Arachne in both games, and since they had an Ares in their lineup i had HoG + beads as my actives, so quick travel to towers wasn't possible to me.
I think Au Kuang ult need to be a bit nerfed . 1 ult , 4 kills . At 420 ap , over 1000 damage at lvl 2 in ult i think.
Nu Wa split pushing is next level retarded because she doesn't need minions to take things. What they can do to fix this is have the soldiers deal no damage to structures and have turrets prioritize Nu Wa over them.
Ao Kuang has always been ridiculously strong. His ratios are fine I just think he is bugged in a lot of ways. He can ult in the middle of CC and it's really dumb he is allowed to do that.
Ao Kuang has always been ridiculously strong. His ratios are fine I just think he is bugged in a lot of ways. He can ult in the middle of CC and it's really dumb he is allowed to do that.
I loathe Ao Kuang. His tornados, his ult, everything. When I use my 3 on him "wow let's press 4 cuz god hard" and i die. The worst thing with CC immunity is Tyr, his passive, his 1 not being able to be CCd in and his ult that is a bit leap with CC immunity. PLEA STAHP.
And to Nu Wa... Attack when you killed her. Only thing to get out of her ridiculous ability taking phoenixes lategame... She isn't the only one able to do this, count Mercury, Bakasura, Apollo and Bastet to the most annoying split pushers too :/ Wards and killing them is the only way to take out an active split pusher.
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And to Nu Wa... Attack when you killed her. Only thing to get out of her ridiculous ability taking phoenixes lategame... She isn't the only one able to do this, count Mercury, Bakasura, Apollo and Bastet to the most annoying split pushers too :/ Wards and killing them is the only way to take out an active split pusher.
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Pff , is so sad i only have lvl 15.... I want to play some rank's.
I got deserter status and lost all my goodwill because my net crashed this morning!
Ao Kuang could probably use a slight nerf on his 3 for how safe it makes his laning and how the damage is. It's hard to avoid when you try to fight him. I don't think the CC immunity on his ulti is intentional because if it is then they most definitely should nerf the damage.
Ao Kuang could probably use a slight nerf on his 3 for how safe it makes his laning and how the damage is. It's hard to avoid when you try to fight him. I don't think the CC immunity on his ulti is intentional because if it is then they most definitely should nerf the damage.
I still think they need to add backdoor protections to this game. I'll work on my wards and killing split pushers and all that, but I still want to see either towers heal or god minions unable to tank towers.
Also, am I the only one who thinks Geb ult is really bad? Seriously have never seen it turn the tide of a battle. Or am I just an idiot?
Also, am I the only one who thinks Geb ult is really bad? Seriously have never seen it turn the tide of a battle. Or am I just an idiot?
Gebs ult is a teamfight ult. Most people suck at Geb since they just spam abilitys, he's a pretty good support if you can calculate when to use your CC and when not. His shield is what makes him good though.
What happens when you don't focus on OBJECTIVES.
Played vs this guy before as Mercury, he play like a cheesy idiot. He wards and waits to gank you when you do buffs and if he succeeds he can just snowball around and kill you since this is where Loki shines... ( I didn't sell Hearthseeker since it gives me power even without stacks and stacking in Joust isn't a problem..)
Played vs this guy before as Mercury, he play like a cheesy idiot. He wards and waits to gank you when you do buffs and if he succeeds he can just snowball around and kill you since this is where Loki shines... ( I didn't sell Hearthseeker since it gives me power even without stacks and stacking in Joust isn't a problem..)