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Aqua Timez - Mayonaka no Orchestra (TV Size)

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EmingK
米桶神麻婆教我作图
senofdark
Good map > <
pimp
good to see experienced mappers mapping naruto songs

hope you will make it ranked :)
Azure
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abdomsisn
mintong姥爷的图,我来MOD啦!
不得不所图非常好,基本挑不出什么毛病啊,给神麻婆跪了QAQ

mirror
01:22:531 (1,2,3) - 感觉有点怪

midnight
01:10:925 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - 这里要是DT肯定有人会被坑到XD

rain
00:55:597 (3,4,1,2) - 这里有种可以做blanket的感觉【你好我是强迫症23333
01:03:042 (6,7) - 这个NOTE移到之前那个3那里如何?【强迫症XD
01:10:925 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - 这里又要被坑XD
Topic Starter
mintong89
感觉都可以orz所以no fixed
Hellzero
[Rain]
01:04:356 (3,4) - confuse spacing, move (3) down a little bit?
01:05:013 (6,7,8,1) - again confuse spacing, i dont understand when 1/2 and when 1/4
[Midnight]
01:11:363 (7,1) - this stack bad because player don't feel flow so hard to catch this note. More better make good flow.
[Mirror]
Clean
[Az's Grayish]
00:15:524 (2) - spacing a bit wrong but I suppose it is because of limit screen
Topic Starter
mintong89

Hellzero wrote:

[Rain]
01:04:356 (3,4) - confuse spacing, move (3) down a little bit? fixed
01:05:013 (6,7,8,1) - again confuse spacing, i dont understand when 1/2 and when 1/4 nope, i can play this perfectly
[Midnight]
01:11:363 (7,1) - this stack bad because player don't feel flow so hard to catch this note. More better make good flow. nope, i think it's ok
[Mirror]
Clean
[Az's Grayish]
00:15:524 (2) - spacing a bit wrong but I suppose it is because of limit screen
thanks for mod!
YoshinoSakura
拙计mod

神combo color 吐槽一下

grayish-easy
aimod说没snap
为什么要变速,有modder给我说这样unrankable
00:15:524 (2) - 稍微上移一点?
00:38:736 (4) - 木有包好
00:46:181 (2) - ^
01:06:765 (1) -

Mirrow-Normal
我猜这个才是normal
00:41:363 (2) - 向左弯怎么样
柑橘整张图就是一直在逆时针转圈==

Midnight-Hard
00:05:728 (2,3) - 个人柑橘三连击更好吧
00:07:574 (2,3) - ^
00:56:254 (1) - 如果是请包好
01:11:582 (1) - 有点坑


Rain-Insane
无力mod insane啦~

没啥可说的所以recieve my star
Topic Starter
mintong89

615915887 wrote:

拙计mod

神combo color 吐槽一下

Mirrow-Normal
我猜这个才是normal
00:41:363 (2) - 向左弯怎么样
柑橘整张图就是一直在逆时针转圈==

Midnight-Hard
00:05:728 (2,3) - 个人柑橘三连击更好吧 这个跟piano啊...
00:07:574 (2,3) - ^
00:56:254 (1) - 如果是请包好 对不起但是不是
01:11:582 (1) - 有点坑 坑才好玩


Rain-Insane
无力mod insane啦~

没啥可说的所以recieve my star
谢啦~
Azure
全都改了 all fixed
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Topic Starter
mintong89
updated
kiddly
网络也是比较差 没下video不能看了 sry

[General]
  • 00:40:487 - 00:54:502 - 这段为什么不用普通soft组呢,本来音乐也是比较安静的部分,加上Drum感觉十分突兀。
    你确定就用这么个BG么……关视频党没人权
[Az's Grayish]
  • 00:12:458 (1,2) - easy难度为了避免被找茬玩家挑建议还是不要stack吧。
    建议:
    SPOILER
    http://puu.sh/3SoXw/2bbbf9fa7b.jpg
    00:26:911 (1) - 怎么有NC
    01:26:254 (1) - 这个转盘巨大的声音把我吓尿了……建议20%以下吧。另外,这个转盘之前一个note在非常边缘的地方,新手的话有可能操作不过来,所以建议再加长两拍。
[Mirror]
  • 01:24:064 (1) - 不map完么……感觉这玩起来就觉得像是填的
[Midnight]
实在是看不出什么可吐槽的,坠毁惹

[Rain]
  • 00:09:064 (1) - 建议soft音效
    01:05:998 (1) - 仔细听了几遍,感觉这个slider首尾音效加反了。btw why NC?
    00:17:714 (1,2) - 1的slider尾巴没藏好啊,比较难看。不过这个地方藏好了也不太好看,建议blanket。
    356,184,17714,6,0,P|388:140|372:44,1,135,2|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    352,24,18152,2,0,P|368:84|408:112,1,90,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    01:13:772 (1,2) - 一样是slider尾巴没藏好,这个把中间锚点下移2格可破。
就只挑的出这么点 伤感
good luck!
kiddly
double posted
Topic Starter
mintong89
00:40:487 - 00:54:502 - 这段为什么不用普通soft组呢,本来音乐也是比较安静的部分,加上Drum感觉十分突兀。
你确定就用这么个BG么……关视频党没人权 嗯...我觉得这BG还挺适合的
其他都fix了thanks~
pachimono
[General]
就是drum的感觉有点闷闷的/.\
[Az's Grayish]
我蠢 看不出来什么可以吐槽的;w;
[Mirror]
  1. 00:07:805 (3) - 移到 x:256 y:180
[Midnight]
还是看不出来/.\
[Rain]
  1. 00:19:794 - 加个circle
  2. 00:25:049 -^
  3. 00:28:006 (9,1) - 这两个换个位置?像这样 http://puu.sh/3R3nw.jpg
  4. 00:50:122 (3) - ctrl+g?
  5. 01:00:086 (9) - 往左放一点?
  6. 01:26:035 (1) - 要不要换成spinner?
;w;神图找不到地方吐槽压力好大
Topic Starter
mintong89

pachimono wrote:

[General]
就是drum的感觉有点闷闷的/.\
[Az's Grayish]
我蠢 看不出来什么可以吐槽的;w;
[Mirror]
  1. 00:07:805 (3) - 移到 x:256 y:180
[Midnight]
还是看不出来/.\
[Rain]
  1. 00:19:794 - 加个circle
  2. 00:25:049 -^ 没听到的鼓音我就不想加了
  3. 00:28:006 (9,1) - 这两个换个位置?像这样 http://puu.sh/3R3nw.jpg 有跟鼓音
  4. 00:50:122 (3) - ctrl+g? 故意的
  5. 01:00:086 (9) - 往左放一点?
  6. 01:26:035 (1) - 要不要换成spinner?
;w;神图找不到地方吐槽压力好大
thanks~
Mira-san
Hello.



[Az's Grayish]
00:34:137 (1) - I don't like how this is placed.

[Mirror]
Nothing for me to see.

[Midnight]
00:28:553 (1) - Place at red tick, or dunno. It doesn't sound right unlike the other ones.
00:34:356 (3,4,5,6) - Make it look like a part of a perfect hexagon.
00:36:765 (4) - Align with (2) via the Y axis. Simply speaking, put it at y:32
00:52:312 (5) - This is farther compared to the distance of (3) to (4).
01:04:137 (3) - Make this (4) and make slider (4) number (3), a.k.a. switch the timings.

[Rain]
Perfect enough for me.



\o/ Good luck! :D
Fycho
Black: suggetions
Blue: might consider
Red: You Must Fix

[general]
Leadin=1500足够了

[rain]

  • OD+1
    00:06:190 –这里空拍感觉怪怪的,加note并加whistle
    00:06:651 –add a note
    00:08:036 –add a note with whistle
    00:40:487 –从这里开始一段强烈建议不用whistle,不合音乐,真的,感觉也有些刺耳。用soft却很合适,别太懒了;w;
    00:40:487 –这个中间白线上有个人声,用1/4节奏啊
    00:54:940 (1,2,3,4,1,2) –可以试试放跳
Kiai里有些finish多余略吵,闷闷的鼓声配上清脆的钹声..窝都不知道该怎么书了

[ Midnight]

  • 开头节奏和insane一样真是恶俗
    00:19:903 (3,4) –修改下距离。hard这样略难啊
    00:20:779 (7) –我觉得这个应该拉长到蓝线结束
    01:08:517 (1) –首finish略吵
    01:10:268 (1) -^
    01:10:268 (1) -^
    01:24:283 (1) -^

[mirror]

  • 00:05:728 (2,3) - NM怎么也这样下节奏不别扭吗
    01:04:794 (1) –首finish掉了

[ Az's Grayish]
先说点nazi的,你可以按ctrl+A,然后看看排版,会发现很奇妙的事情
稍微注意平均空间利用率吧

  • 00:12:458 (1,2) –stack is too hard for beginners to play
    00:26:473 (1) –remove NC?
Topic Starter
mintong89

Fycho wrote:

Black: suggetions
Blue: might consider
Red: You Must Fix

[general]
Leadin=1500足够了 习惯了 看下面再说吧

[rain]

  • OD+1
    00:06:190 –这里空拍感觉怪怪的,加note并加whistle 跟piano
    00:06:651 –add a note ^
    00:08:036 –add a note with whistle ^
    00:40:487 –从这里开始一段强烈建议不用whistle,不合音乐,真的,感觉也有些刺耳。用soft却很合适,别太懒了;w; no sorry
    00:40:487 –这个中间白线上有个人声,用1/4节奏啊 不 我不跟人声
    00:54:940 (1,2,3,4,1,2) –可以试试放跳 不喜欢
Kiai里有些finish多余略吵,闷闷的鼓声配上清脆的钹声..窝都不知道该怎么书了 怀疑你又看不懂mapper像表达啥

[ Midnight]

  • 开头节奏和insane一样真是恶俗 这叫好玩
    00:19:903 (3,4) –修改下距离。hard这样略难啊
    00:20:779 (7) –我觉得这个应该拉长到蓝线结束 有鼓声
    01:08:517 (1) –首finish略吵 我觉得还可以
    01:10:268 (1) -^ ^
    01:10:268 (1) -^ ^
    01:24:283 (1) -^ ^

[mirror]

  • 00:05:728 (2,3) - NM怎么也这样下节奏不别扭吗
    01:04:794 (1) –首finish掉了 我觉得反而加finish跟难听 看下面怎么说
虽然no fixed但是还是谢mod

@Mira-san: some fix thanks~
sammy711
From 复读群
Perfect map 我mod不出来什么了
与其被说no fixed 不如送上1 star OAO其实我是看到前面好多no fixed怕了
我觉得这图已经够rank了 建议赶紧凑好SP去找泡XD
01:27:787 - Normal和Hard里的这条线删掉/.\
Rain
吐槽一下 00:50:560 (4) - 这个可以稍微顺时针旋转5°到10°保持美观 而且这个角度和00:50:998 (1) - 衔接的也不是很好
啊 顺便提醒一下Az的Easy里好像missing video了哦 unrankable

00:49:684 (2,3,4) -
这个地方刚开始我不理解为什么这样放 结果码了一堆字OAQ
最后仔细听了一下音乐才发现是跟了钢琴声走 默默地把打的字都删掉了
to pachimono 米桶这么放是因为背景钢琴声有一个上扬的趋势



no kds and 1 star
Topic Starter
mintong89
都改了lol
感谢~
woshiguabi
占个位置
mint baka
Koiyuki
Frommy queue of Normal mod.

First
———————————————————————————
好歌,好图,米桶好厉害,蹭~ :roll:
另外自定义音效有点怪……为何不用drum,自定义音效再改过来……(虽然挺麻烦

Az's Grayish
———————————————————————————
None.
(为何要扯这么猎奇形状的滑条-.-)

Mirror
———————————————————————————
None.

Midnight
———————————————————————————
00:58:334 (4) - 如果是长白线加NC的设定,请加NC

Rain
———————————————————————————
00:43:882 (5) - 移到y:124
还有这连打打的好不习惯0 0


nothing, perfect map, 射星!
Topic Starter
mintong89
全改了

谢啦!
Azure
all fixed Thanks mod

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Topic Starter
mintong89
updated!
gxytcgxytc
话说我是真的不想骗啊不想骗T.T
lead in 1500 看了别人好多其他图mod 一般将lead in + offset =3000左右为宜.
[az]
easy最好不要变速slider的说.
没有video
其他找不出来/w\
[mirror]
nothing
[Midnight]
00:33:152 (5) - 柑橘 +clap会好听些
00:56:254 (1) - 要不要包上4 D:
[Rain]
00:47:276 (8) - x352 y316 56 和78 平行一下
00:56:254 (1) - 左移一格and dont forget my kd plz
00:59:976 (8,9) - 窝觉得这两个可以加弧度
01:19:903 (6) - 这个不喜欢/.\ 玩着不顺还坑了一下. 改简单点?.
真是的我这么渣还要我来摸/.\
:) 米桶神麻婆bdbf :)
我去hl你~(pia

忘记了 grid 4
No_Gu
[General]
Tag

[Az]
没video
00:01:574 (1,2,3,1,2) - 开头都加whistle
00:12:896 (2) - 第二个点右上各一格
00:31:728 (3,2) - 有点遮
00:40:487这段开始就没大鼓了还是换默认hitnormal

[Normal]
00:40:487没大鼓。。
01:15:524 (1) - 开头大鼓

[Hard]
00:01:574 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 看了半天没感觉有啥规律
00:07:574 (2,3) - 加一个whistle
00:08:955 (1) - 没大鼓啊
00:33:152 (5) - ^
01:11:363 (7,1) - 感觉这里很容易断。。
01:13:553 (5) - NC?

[Insane]
00:08:955 (4) - finish太吵

实话说我感觉你这音效真是下的不怎么样。。。虽然你是说trying to use drum sound但是其实你现在这样跟把soft-hitnormal换个文件没什么太大区别。尤其那段没大鼓的还全加大鼓音。这歌鼓点多你现在这样勉强还算可以,换个只有o x o x你这么下就难听死,真想下还是认真听。。随便糊弄的话还不如加点默认whistle。不过当然你觉得你就这样就挺好那我也不多说啥,一个人一种心理。顺带一说有镲的时候基本都有大鼓,也就是你finish加了的话基本都要加whistle,kiai段基本都落下了
说重了的话别在意 也不是强迫你改
TTTTTTTTTTTT
[Easy]
01:03:261 (1) - 不要NC
00:34:137 (2,1) - 这个很难看。
这个难度没add video
[Normal]
没问题
[Hard]
00:07:805 (3) - whistle
[Insane]
Topic Starter
mintong89
fixed some thanks
Azure
all fixed
thanks for mod
SPOILER
osu file format v12

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Title:Mayonaka no Orchestra (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:真夜中のオーケストラ (TV Size)
Artist:Aqua Timez
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Creator:mintong89
Version:Az's Grayish
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Topic Starter
mintong89
updated
UnitedWeSin
Hello^^
Nice song.

[General]

  1. Missing video in Az's Grafish. Please fix this.
  2. I like the skin. Nice job. :)
[Rain]

  1. 00:08:955 (4) - NC? Seems nice.
  2. 00:16:400 (3,4,5,6) - Unintuitive rhythm imo. It's not following the music very well. The 1/4 jumps are difficult to understand. I recommend replace the 3 with a circle and then add 1/4 sliders at 00:16:619 and 00:16:838.
  3. 00:40:487 - Why do you increase volume here? The music becomes more quiet. All I can hear is that bass hit hitsound in this section, I can't hear the music. Try 40% volume here instead. Then increase it again at 00:54:502.
  4. 00:45:086 (4,5) - Try Ctrl+G here. It'll flow a little nicer into the triplet 1. Here's the idea:
  5. 00:54:502 (1,1) - I'd like it if you would unstack these since the music changes so much on the 00:54:502 (1). Try flipping these over the axis like so:
    Image

    You could even move each further into their respective corners to increase spacing which might be nice.
  6. 00:59:100 (6,7,8,9,1) - Example of messy placement here. Why not make nice blankets instead of overlapping them? Here's an example you could try:
  7. 01:03:480 (7,8) - Messy placements. :< You overlap the same area again and it disrupts the flow of your map. Also try to fill out the rhythm here with more drums. Try a triplet at 01:03:480 and a 1/2 slider at 01:03:699.
    Image

    That's with NC at 01:03:480 as suggested in NC box.
  8. Placement suggestion here on the 01:03:042 (6). Have it flow into the 01:02:276 (2,3,4) blanket pointed at the triplet at 01:03:480.
    Image

    It's just an example of the type of things you could try that would fit well for this mapset since you use so many streams like that.
  9. 01:05:779 (8,1) - Similar idea to 00:16:400 (3,4,5,6). It's very unintuitive to play when these 1/4 sliders are starting on the blue tick. I suggest that you change all patterns like this so that the sliders are on the white tick. It will play more intuitively with the drums. You can replace the 01:05:451 (7) with a circle and move the 1/4 sliders left like so:
    Image

    Or here's another example of a rhythm you can try:
    I recommend changing all patterns where you have 1/4 sliders on the blue ticks like:
    01:12:787 (3,4)
    01:19:794 (5,6,7) -
    If you place your 1/4 sliders on the white and red tick like this, you can add your hitsounds and follow the drums, and make all sorts of fun jumps and interesting placements while it still being intuitive to play.
  10. 01:24:064 (1,2) - Reverse NC makes more sense to me to show the jump.
  11. Some combo inconsistencies in the first bit of the kiai. If you're following drums, here are my suggestions:
    NC's
    1. 00:59:976 (8) - NC and remove the one on 01:00:195 (1). Consistent with 01:13:334 (5,1).
    2. 01:01:290 (8) - NC and remove the one on 01:01:947 (1). Consistent with 01:15:305 (1,2,3).
    3. 01:03:480 (7) - NC and remove the one on 01:04:027 (1).
    4. 01:04:794 (6) - NC and remove the one at 01:05:998 (1). Consistent with 01:18:809 (1).
My main complaint with this map are your rhythms. Lots of the times you create awkward rhythms with 1/4 sliders placed on the blue tick. Also I think you could work on your placements, they get quite sloppy at times. I gave a few examples.

[Rain]

  1. 00:28:444 - The gap is kind of breaking flow imo. I'd prefer that you add a note to make a nice triplet. That or an increased spacing might work.
  2. 00:40:487 - Same as Insane, I recommend less volume. Try 40%
  3. 01:03:699 (2,3,4,1) - Try it with no overlaps and with the 01:05:013 (1) more at the edge of the circle flow. The way you have it now, flow is broken with the 01:05:013 (1) being so overlapped imo. Try this, I think it might play nicer:
  4. 01:11:582 (1) - I'd prefer that you unstack it. I realize you're trying to reflect the Insane diff here but I think it's annoying for hard players to read when you stack it underneath the last note of a stream. You could blanket it with the stream instead:
[Mirror]

  1. 00:26:035 (3,1) - A bit nazi, try to move the 3 more up. It will have a nicer effect:
  2. 00:30:414 (2) - Just a minor suggestion here.Copy the 00:29:100 (2) and flip it over as this slider. Place in reflection. It will look more nice.
  3. 00:40:487 - Same suggestion as other diffs. Lesser volume plz.
  4. 00:50:998 (1,2) - Minor thing here too. Try to get the 2 in a blanket with the 00:50:122 (4) as well as the 1. Here's the idea:
  5. 00:53:626 (2,3,1) - I'd prefer that you stack the 3 on the 2 instead of the 1. That way we'd have movement to the 1 when the symbols crash. It will feel nicer imo.
  6. 01:23:626 (3,4) - Try replacing with a 1/2 slider to reduce some difficulty here.
[Az's Grayfish]

  1. Imo your NC's are too frequent in this map. I think it's nice in an Easy when the combos go past at least 3. Lots of your combos are only 2 hits long because you NC every downbeat. Consider removing some like 00:14:210 (1) and 00:17:714 (1) and so on and so forth consistently.
  2. 00:34:356 (3,4,5) - Try to even the spacing out a bit here, it was very confusing in play. I figure it might be a mistake.
  3. 00:38:517 (3,4) - I don't like this rhythm here since the music crashes and holds on the 3 but we continue on and hit the 4 before holding. I'd like it if you could delete the 3 and move the slider to that red tick. Consider this rhythm here:
  4. 00:40:487 - Same suggestion as other diffs. I feel the hitsounds are too loud here. Try 40%.
Cool map. I'd say get a few more mods and work on some rhythms and placements in the Rain diff and it'll be on it's way. I'll leave my star here for now.
Good luck^^
pieguyn
sorry I'm so late > <
man you're too pro for me, I guarantee I'll hardly find anything haha

[Az's Grayish]
01:03:261 (4) - add NC cause this combo is too long, also it matches the next one

[Mirror]
01:04:794 (1) - mb end it at 01:05:013 - to fill missing finish?
01:26:035 - add spinner line in [Easy]? seems to fit

[Midnight]
00:07:574 (2,3) - remove whistles? not here in other diffs
01:24:940 (4) - imo rolls like this play better if you hit on a 1/1, try this? http://puu.sh/4dz0X.jpg
01:26:035 - same as [Mirror]

[Rain]
00:39:830 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - curve looks uneven imo, mb try this? http://puu.sh/4dz7e.jpg
SPOILER
44,188,39830,1,2,0:0:0:0:
84,164,39940,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,156,40049,1,8,0:0:0:0:
172,164,40159,1,8,0:0:0:0:
216,180,40268,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,212,40378,1,2,0:0:0:0:
276,248,40487,6,0,L|384:260,1,90,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
01:03:480 (7) - stack on (3)
01:19:903 (6) - hm, should this be closer to (5)? as far as I saw the spaced 1/4s were with 2 sliders, but this one has a note, mb I just saw it wrong 0.0

nice map :)
star ~ good luck
Konei
mintong, if you want to get this ranked, revive it and poke me in game or forum.






IRC modded
19:30 mintong89: :O hi
19:31 Konei: yoo
19:32 mintong89: from my maps lol
19:32 Konei: ah, good to hear
19:33 Konei: I'm gonna mod it in order of the QAT
19:33 Konei: wanna irc mod or want me to post somewhen?
19:33 mintong89: irc mod is fine
19:33 mintong89: thanks :3
19:33 Konei: okay, lemme quickly finish this ~
19:34 Konei: np please
19:35 *mintong89 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/261949 Aqua Timez - Mayonaka no Orchestra (TV Size) [Rain]]
19:35 Konei: Ok, first of all; video is missing in Easy
19:35 mintong89: oops, sorry for that
19:36 Konei: plus I wish you could make combo color one and three more different
19:36 Konei: I get confused by them
19:36 Konei: just make 1 a biiit darker
19:36 Konei: would be fine
19:37 mintong89: hmm
19:37 mintong89: http://puu.sh/4F1Yh.png
19:37 mintong89: is this fine?
19:37 Konei: yea
19:37 Konei: a lot better
19:37 mintong89: ok~
19:37 Konei: for Easy
19:38 Konei: gotta post? or are you allowed to fix things?
19:38 mintong89: yup, i'm allowed~
19:38 Konei: cool
19:38 Konei: Easy
19:39 Konei: 00:21:217 (3) - This would work better if the shape would lay straight on the grid, like this cursor makes a weird tweak
19:39 Konei: Like this http://puu.sh/4F25u.jpg
19:40 mintong89: hmm good, fixed
19:40 Konei: 00:24:502 (2) - Would be much better to remove this note, 1/2 beat usement is not advised in the easiest difficulty
19:40 Konei: also rhyhtm works fine enough without it
19:41 mintong89: cool, fixed
19:41 Konei: 00:24:721 (1) - How about a default whistle at the repeat? You might make it a bit quiter to complment your drum sample usement, but the piano sounds empty here
19:42 Konei: 00:34:137 (2) - We should get rid of all those 1/2 beats, this one is hard to catch aswell, so I'd rather delete this one or just move it to the white tick before
19:43 Konei: 00:38:517 (3) - No good aswell since this is a circle, this makes the pattern to normalish, try to delete the note and extend 2 until that red tick, then add a finish to the end
19:44 mintong89: wow
19:44 mintong89: ok~
19:44 Konei: 00:46:181 (2) - The finish on the end would be more good to hear if you made the sampleset Normal and added an "addition" finish to get the strong beat in the music
19:45 Konei: Am I too fast? If so, tell me
19:46 mintong89: i mean fixed~
19:46 mintong89: nope
19:46 Konei: 01:05:013 (7) - NC should start here to keep consistency
19:46 Konei: remove it on 1 then of course, lol
19:46 mintong89: ok lol,
19:46 Konei: 01:08:517 (2) - This should have a NC too then
19:47 Konei: 01:10:268 (1) - And this needs to be removed
19:48 mintong89: all fixed
19:48 Konei: 01:17:276 (1) - remove NC for consistency
19:48 Konei: 01:19:027 (7) - add one here
19:48 Konei: 01:20:779 (1) - remove this
19:49 Konei: 01:22:531 (4) - add one here
19:49 Konei: 01:24:283 (4) - and remove that
19:49 mintong89: yup, all fixed
19:49 Konei: good
19:49 Konei: Normal then
19:50 Konei: 00:05:959 (3) - Would be more fiting the piano if you added a whistle here aswell
19:50 Konei: 00:07:805 (3) - and here too
19:51 mintong89: yeah, look's good. fixed~
19:53 Konei: 00:46:619 (4,5) - Those ends sound strange as there is no actual beat on them, I'd suggest to change them to quieter soft whistles to follow the guitar
19:54 Konei: like 40%
19:54 mintong89: you mean no drum sampleset?
19:55 Konei: Yea
19:55 Konei: I mean default soft whistles
19:56 Konei: 00:54:064 (3) - I'd suggest to add a soft finish here to follow the cymbal
19:56 mintong89: hm ok
19:56 mintong89: 00:54:502 (1) - i will delete this
19:57 Konei: 01:26:035 (7) - I'd recommend a NC to end the map
19:58 mintong89: nah, i think it's fine
19:58 Konei: Sure sure
19:58 Konei: Hard then
19:59 Konei: 00:05:959 (3) - add a whistle here for consistency between difficulties
20:00 Konei: 00:07:574 (2) - and remove it here
20:00 mintong89: lol fixed
20:00 Konei: 00:20:122 (4,5,6) - Hmm, really need a jump here? Comes quite random and we're talking about Hard
20:01 mintong89: oops
20:01 mintong89: fixed
20:02 Konei: 00:33:918 (2) - You could try to make the shape smoother or something
20:02 Konei: this is a bit weird at the moment
20:02 Konei: http://puu.sh/4F3aD.jpg
20:02 mintong89: like?
20:02 Konei: like above maybe
20:03 Konei: 00:41:363 (2) - Huh? Why does this end on the blue tick?
20:03 Konei: Any musical reason?
20:04 Konei: 00:47:495 (1) - Same question for this one
20:04 mintong89: bug
20:04 mintong89: fixed
20:04 Konei: 00:48:809 (5) - And this one
20:05 Konei: 01:11:582 (1) - I'd rather replace this, at the moment it's stacked and player will read it as 1/4
20:06 mintong89: hmm
20:06 mintong89: unstack it would be fine?
20:06 Konei: sure
20:08 Konei: are u done?
20:08 mintong89: yup
20:09 Konei: Insane then~
20:09 Konei: 00:05:959 (3) - Whistle for you know why ~
20:10 Konei: 00:07:805 (3) - and here
20:10 mintong89: ok
20:10 Konei: 00:08:955 (4) - NC? You might or might not like it, but I do
20:11 mintong89: it kind unnecessary so i don't want NC it
20:11 Konei: sure
20:12 Konei: 00:16:838 (5) - spacing is really confusing because u didnt jump for the other 1/4 things
20:12 Konei: hum
20:12 Konei: maybe just me
20:12 mintong89: hmm
20:12 mintong89: maybe just you lol
20:14 Konei: 00:54:064 (4) - Use soft finish to follow the cymbal?
20:15 Konei: 00:57:130 (3) - Please make this stream's spacing more consistent
20:16 Konei: 01:10:049 (1) - Hm, I'd rather make this Slider 2 circles, so the downbeat will be clickable
20:16 mintong89: let me see
20:17 Konei: 01:24:940 (5) - Don't wanna NC that stream, right?
20:17 mintong89: yup
20:17 Konei: in that case I'm done
20:18 Konei: Cool map
Irreversible
i'll mod this later on!
Jenny

* From QAT queue *


[General]

  1. I found your offset to sound about 9ms early - consider adjusting that.
  2. You may or may not want to use a widescreen background image - just saying you could if you wanted to (16:9); the resolution for that would be 1366x768 px.
  3. Remove "ED" from tags, as it's too short to be considered by the osu! beatmap search metric.
  4. While this may or may not be "viable", I feel like the sliderticks are... disrupting the melody here, as they just feel a bit too sharpish and bleh in the soft-sampleset; mind lowering their volume/using customs?

[Az's Grayish]

  1. I think the difficulty name should be Az' Grayish, without an s, as z is already an s-ish letter and so forths - just a matter of genitive, but looks better that way.
  2. You could really use a custom clap that is just your hitclap; you have quite a few sliders throughout your map that skip over the clap-accentuated beat and therefore, this would really help keeping your soundpattern consistent (if you wanted to be weird like me, you could even do one yourself that combines hitnormal and hitclap, just for being very precise and suchs).
00:01:574 (1) - add an NC here - not sure about whether osu! treats it properly if you don't, so it may matter for HP recovery
00:07:113 (1) - consider lowering the volume here, as the background melody that you are focussing on is fading away in the music and therefore, your hitsounds feel too loud and unflexible here (also, why is this spaced 1.15x and not 1.3x as the rest?)
00:08:959 - you should move the break's start to here, that'll feel better, simply because the "fade-out" effect will be spot-on with the section and BPM change then
00:29:976 (1,2,3) - I'm not particularly in favor of this triangle here; just the angle at which you turn to 3 and the way it is shaped are conflicting from what I feel - have an example of what I think feels more balanced below
00:37:641 (2,3) - while this is not wrong and I can see that you're following the strong piano sound here, it felt a bit disturbing to have such a strong beat in the map (and the song, tbh) and it was a bit... disrupting; I don't know, have a look or smth, not really an "issue", but... just a feeling I guess
00:49:684 (3) - this slider is somewhat wrong though; the soundpattern in the song that you are following here goes 1-(2)-1-(2) on the white ticks, with 1 beat the strong and accentuated beat that you should play - this slider, however, starts on a (2) and so ends on a stronger sound that it starts on; please do something about this, as this is rhythmically wrong and feels bad
01:03:261 (4,5,6,1) - make this an equal square, please, currently it's imperfect and feels bleh; move 1 to 333|108 to fix this


[Mirror]

00:05:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I know you're trying to follow the piano here, but it really does not feel good with the break and suchs; I'd recommend you to make each 1 a slider that ends on where 2 lies; that way, you get the same musical pattern with less hard-to-read rhythm, and this diff doesn't seem like it should be rhythmically complicating (generally, no diff should be a pain up the butt like that :I)
00:18:590 (2) - feels a bit clunked together at this part, with the previous combo and such it just seems packed, so I'd rather have you do something like uhh... well, leading away from here, example below
I feel like the ending kiai is a bit... repetative, flowwise - you just go counterclockwise over and over; I mean, the song is very fluid and I can see why you would do this, just something to consider next time? Really doesn't irk me here, but just in general, keep an eye on that.
01:26:035 (7) - spinner please


[Midnight]

00:03:421 (1) - this is more 1.4x than 1.3x spacing, unlike you did it before, please correct this xP
00:04:344 (1) - why's this 1.0x now? there's no reason, it's the same pattern
00:05:267 (1) - and this is 1.2x now?? @_@
00:05:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - just as with Mirror, please change this to a more... yeah, more playable rhythm - the piano is very faint here, and really, it's no fun to have to crampfully listen to when it will hit and it is a guaranteed 100 on first play, no matter what you do (unless you turn your music to 0%)
00:15:086 (3,4,5,6) - this really isn't any smooth or nice; it's like, you play one straight line and then you play the other, while you should do a fluid motion - suggesting to change this to an even arc; have an example below
here you go, coordinates below the screenshot


3: 253|159
4: 239|85
5: 171|51
6: 100|80
00:24:064 (3) - similar as with 00:49:684 in Grayish, this slider ends on a stronger beat than it starts on and that's wrong; you should change this in some way that makes you click on the white tick and not the red one, or at least not only on the red one
00:24:502 (1) - ^
00:24:940 (2,3,4) - similar as with 00:15:086, this doesn't feel like you should make a snappy-jumpy-linear motion, please make something smoothish here
00:25:816 (7,8) - just as with 00:24:064 and 00:24:502
00:27:787 (6) - ^
00:29:538 (4) - this jump just felt fairly unexpected and overdone, to be honest
00:35:670 (2) - this just doesn't flow well at all; you come out of 1 in an arc, then snap to 2 and just do the same kind of arc again but at a different position - the music and beatpattern are not repeating, so there's no destinct reason to do this as it really just breaks the whole motion
00:43:115 (1) - again, the jump just feels so harsh and sudden and unlike the rest
00:50:998 (1) - this is like, the first stacked note in this difficulty and there is no reason to put it in a part where you didn't stack anything before, really
01:04:137 (3) - that overlap with 1 just looks really ugly and meh
01:12:677 (3,4) - similar to 00:25:816 and earlier examples
01:14:648 (7) - why this jump, there is no strong beat in the song here to verify that
01:26:035 - spinner please (or start it on the blue tick after


[Rain]

  1. Consider disabling gridsnap as it is very apparent on your stream spacing that feels somewhat uneven due to being... well, snapped towards the grids, resulting in unbalanced curves and spacing that varies by ~0.02 to ~0.07 or smth; call me a nazi, but really, I noticed that and it felt off to me. (Also, your circle curves are somewhat uneven due to that, please try to make them more balanced-bowy, rather than "bowed line"-y, if you get me)
  2. You have a lot of the before mentioned sliders that have issues with active and passive hitsounding here, please have a look at them and correct this, because currently, it's just wrong. (Look at the end of this post for a definition for active-passive hitsounding, if you don't know what I mean)
00:01:574 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - the spacing here really feels weird and random, switching between different distance snaps all the time... make this move consistent
00:05:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - usual thing about the pain-in-the-arse-to-hit-and-hear lightpiano bits (...this sounds more offensive then I mean it to be, sorry)
00:14:976 (4,5,6,7) - this curve feels uneven
00:13:553 (7,8) - these and following start on weaker beats than they end on, making them rhythmically wrong and feeling oddly off (-> you hit on the weak beat and release on the strong one; active-passive hitsounding and stuffs)
00:16:728 (4,5,6) - these 1/4 jumps are really not good to read and play, especially on AR8 and on a calm song like this, so please, change this.
00:17:714 (1,2) - the overlap between these two looks very clunky and meh and is also fairly hard to read
00:22:750 (7) - this beat is vastly different from the 1/4 pattern before, making it feel off when it is parallel to the last slider like this; seperate it more in form and suchs
00:39:830 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - I really feel like this stream should come down to the slider from the top, rather than just "flowing into it"; random example below
00:40:487 (1,2,3) - these sliders... just really don't compliment each other at all; due to how you play them next to each other, the spacing feels extremely uneven (-> space left between the individual sliders) while it theoretically is correct and even - saying theoretically here as efficiently, and to a player, it feels like it's different and just feels very very odd; strong advice to change this.
00:42:677 (2,3,4) - ^ very similar to that, please change it.
Generally, this whole part feels too far-spaced and strongly mapped for such a calm bit of the song...
00:49:684 (2) - like with 00:17:714, this overlap feels off and bleh
00:49:684 (2,3,4) - same thing as with 00:42:677 and suchs again
00:54:940 (1,2,3,4) - this is an 1-2-1-2-1-2 soundpattern, but you map it like 1-2-1-1-2-1, which is wrong; just make it all sliders starting on white or make it all circles, but there should definitely be clicks on white - clicks, not hitsounds.
00:59:100 (6,7) - we had this in the diff before already; same thing for all the other redtick sliders
01:05:779 (8,1) - these sliders are especially bad to play and wrong in rhythm, as not only do they start on a weaker beat than they end on, but it is a blue tick, which means it's the most unlikely to feel natural, considering that it's the ones with the weakest beats in the song in general; change this, really.
01:07:422 (2,3,4) - this 1/4 spacing really doesn't go well with the song; it's calm and fluid, not snappy and power-bambam
01:12:787 (3,4) - same as 01:05:779
01:19:794 (5,6,7) - these 1/4 jumps are a big no to me
01:21:546 (3) - replace this with two circles; the claps are emphasizing the music, but your map is not, as there should be a strong object (-> hit, circle, sliderstart) on each of them
01:26:035 (1) - Why not replace this with a circle + spinner, feels better


So yeah... I have issues with this, specifically your higher difficulties - the lower ones are absolutely fine for the most part, but you have rhythmical issues here, and really, it's apparent and feels off and really just makes me not want to play the maps, and that's... something you don't want to achieve, I guess - it's not too hard to fix and you can be done with that in 15 to 30 minutes, so please, just really do it; saying this as a player and mapper, more than as a "technical modder" or something, because you're mapping for players in the end, and for the song that you chose, so you should give it your best, especially if it's stupid issues like this that really don't have to exist.




Active/Passive Hitsounding
Active Hitsounding refers to hitsounds that you actually take an active part in (-> click), therefore, this refers to circles and sliderstarts; active hitsounds generate pressure behind the notes played and therefore should predominantly be set on already existing beats (or extremely natural-feeling additive mapping, but that's a rare exception).

Passive Hitsounding refers to hitsounds that occur without you actively participating (-> hitting) on them, such as sliderticks, reverse arrows, slider- or spinnerends; these do not generate pressure in playing and therefore should be feeling natural when silenced to emphasize longer/stronger notes in the music.



Take this example: You see, we have two sliders, 1/2 each - this will just sound like 4*1/2 hitnormal but effectively, it's played as 2*1/1, so you have to consider, when does it fit? Given that you only click the starts of the sliders, it could fit when the white ticks are (significantly) stronger than the red ones, resulting in a 1-(2)-1-(2) rhythm (1 = active, strong beat, (2) = passive, weak beat/no beat).

To visualize it better, you may draw a line under every active hitsound and leave the passive ones empty:



tl;dr: An active hitsound is when you click and there comes a sound, a passive one is when the object just makes a sound "by itself"/without an impact (-> click) required - keep this in mind, because passive are effectively weaker than active ones even when they "sound the same".
Irreversible


Hi mintong, from QAT queue!

[General]

It is required to have a full set of different skinfiles: reversearrow.png is missing! you need to fix this, elsewhise: unrankable

[Easy]

00:05:267 (3) - Nazi - move the red point to 108 344, so it's completley in the middle.

00:12:896 (2) - I can really not approve this overlap - also the rhythm is just too much for the begin, it makes everything a bit messy. Check this out : http://puu.sh/4MV50.jpg The rhythm is more consistent there and you can get a nice pattern.

00:14:210 (1) - Consider removing this NC to follow consistency, and also to reach at least 4 combo. 2 is really less imo.
00:17:714 (3) - ^
00:24:721 (2) - Really, 1 combo slider? >< Remove this NC as well.
00:43:991 (1) - ^
01:17:276 (5) - add Nc
01:19:027 (1) - remove NC
01:20:779 (1) - add NC

00:15:524 (2) - Check the spacing here, it's not 1.30 (which it should be), make sure all your spacings are exactly the same in easy.

00:26:473 (1,2) - This is not an overlap, I know, but it just doesn't use the space given well. http://puu.sh/4MVaP.jpg Consider it; it's also better readable by newbies players.

00:35:232 - This tick is stronger than 00:34:356 - , you can hear this from the vocals ; due to this fact it's not a good idea to let the slider end on it. I suggest deleting this big slider, and make a smaller, 1/1 one, and add a circle 00:35:232 - here.

00:38:736 (3) - Blanket issue, if you fix it, you'll also get a better made triangle between 00:38:736 (3,1,2) - .

00:46:181 (2) - Same as 00:35:232

00:48:371 (2,1) - ^

01:25:159 (5) - Your rhythm would be quite cool here if you could pull this one back to 01:24:940 - and extend it again to 01:25:816 - .

Feedback

Rhythm: Was totally okay in the kiai, but i've discovered a lot of 'mistakes' in the parts before (about this strong ticks issue), which you should definetly consider to be fixed.
Placing / Spacing: It would be nice if you could recheck your whole map for the spacing jumps (they go from 1.25 to 1.34 sometimes, which is not recommended in easy, it should be consistent, for the tidy-looking's sake) But the idea and flow is okay.

[Mirror]

00:05:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I'm completely unsure about this.. do you think it's a good idea to map a really hard to hear background in a normal? Consider mapping the vocals instead, please.

00:20:779 (4) - http://puu.sh/4MVzc.jpg nazi - but it would look neater if it flows the natural flow given. If you apply it , don't forget to make a blanket 00:21:655 (1) - here again.

00:35:013 (3) - same issue as above, 264 88 to fix it.

00:35:232 (1,2) - ehm.. is there a reason why there is a different slider shape? It seems like it's a kickslider, so please copy paste it.

01:05:451 (2) - The slider end lands on a really strong vocal, replace it with two circles to give it a better effect? I want to suggest a better rhythm for the whole part here: it starts here: http://puu.sh/4MVIz.jpg I hope you could change this, because it will make the whole thing more fitting to the song, less frustating for the beginner (they can get easilyconfused if you change between vocal / instrument) and yeah that's it.

01:23:407 (2,3) - Replace with a slider to fit the strechted vocal? It would reduce this difficulty here a bit too, it's a bit too hard if you ask me for a normal.

Feedback

Rhythm: Good! Just the things mentioned above.
Spacing: Really good. Just some nazi found!



I'll go on modding this later!
Leader


[General]
  1. I think soft-hitfinish doesn't fit much the song, it's currently too loud in my opinion and it often plays in a sudden way. Try to find a custom one?
[Az's Grayish]
  1. 00:07:113 (1,2) - I think following vocal would be much better, try to move these two sliders on the previous red tick, looks perfect.
  2. 00:08:955 - You can make break starts on this redline
  3. 00:12:896 (2,1) - Come on, you can avoid this little overlap
  4. 00:35:670 (3) - You can move it some grids down to improve current flow.
  5. 00:42:239 (3) - Not perfectly stacked, move on x:468 y:64
  6. 00:45:743 (1) - I'd remove this NC, seems pretty useless.
  7. 01:10:268 (3) - You should replace whistle on slider head with clap, like you did on next pattern (01:24:283 (4,5) - ), sounds much better and brings more consistency!
[Mirror]
  1. 00:07:113 (1,2,3) - You should copy previous pattern, which have same rhythm and flip this horizontally, according to distance snap of course.
  2. 01:26:035 (7) - A new combo would play nice, you can also add a spinner afterwards, which goes until the end of the song.
[Midnight]
  1. 00:40:925 (1,2) - Consider making them similar using flipping option
  2. 01:04:137 (3) - I'd personally avoid such overlaps, you can easily avoid it, like I did as example:
  3. 01:14:210 (6,7) - This pattern doesn't go well (unless you have similar sliders scaled up after them :p ) with map itself, looks kinda random. Consider CTRL+G-ing (7)
[Rain]

  • OD6? Consider changing to 8, spread will be perfect because Easy has 2, Normal 4 and Hard 6. EDIT: Well, OD8 may be too much, but I suggest 7 so there's a difference between [Midnight] diff.
  1. 00:54:064 (4,1,1) - It's the same pattern as hard, try to do something different and more creative. For example, you can change this circle with a 1/2 slider. I tried to use this with 0.50x SV, here's what I did, you can replace it with this or something else (jeez, this is horrible.. I hope you can get some inspiration from this, though)
Well, that's all. I found it a well-made map, nothing wrong with it!
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