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Dolphin
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Tanaka
Really look forward to seeing this getting ranked.
-GN
Short post to address a flaw in Muzukashi, because that's the only diff type i can play:
[Muzukashii]
This diff is very, very boring to play, even for an inexperienced fellow like myself, for a specific reason:
the 1/2 spam isn't a good difficulty design style. You should definitely add stuff like finishers between measures, sliders in slower parts, triplets where applicable and some more complex patterns, preferably near the end. Hitting dkdkkkdddkkdddkdkdkkkddkdk for two minutes is rather annoying.
Just vary it up a bit. Exactly how isn't really an issue.

I'd say something about Oni as well, but I can't into streams so no opinion from me there :D
Topic Starter
Dolphin

-GN wrote:

Short post to address a flaw in Muzukashi, because that's the only diff type i can play:
[Muzukashii]
This diff is very, very boring to play, even for an inexperienced fellow like myself, for a specific reason:
the 1/2 spam isn't a good difficulty design style. You should definitely add stuff like finishers between measures, sliders in slower parts, triplets where applicable and some more complex patterns, preferably near the end. Hitting dkdkkkdddkkdddkdkdkkkddkdk for two minutes is rather annoying.
Just vary it up a bit. Exactly how isn't really an issue.

I'd say something about Oni as well, but I can't into streams so no opinion from me there :D
fixed it just now (because irc chat es cool but u need ur kd man 8-) )
Kurokotei
Hi Dolphin! Here is the mod you requested!

[General]

  1. Standard SV for Taiko is 1.40. Consider using 1.40?
[Oni]

  1. 00:02:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - two solutions, or you put all notes with finish (execpt the 2-hit clusters of course), or you put no finishes at all
  2. 00:16:513 (12) - remove, there isn't any note here in the part you're following
  3. 00:18:157 (26) - ^
  4. 00:24:527 (73,74,75,76) - kkkd?
  5. 00:59:664 (11) - k?
  6. 01:09:321 (42,43,44) - ddk? sounds better i think
[Muzukashii]

Well, this difficulty is a bit hard, so try to use patterns like ddk, kkd, kdk, dkd often. You are lucky, the BPM is quite low so you can put some. But I will not do a complete mod for this diff, because it needs more work. I will only point some things that really needs to be fixed.

  1. 00:03:773 (7) - remove finish, no reason to put a finisher here
  2. 00:05:417 (13) - ^
  3. 00:07:060 (19) - ^
  4. 00:08:705 (25) - ^
  5. 00:10:348 (31) - ^
  6. 00:11:993 (37) - ^
  7. 00:13:636 (43) - ^
[Futsuu]

Here again, the difficulty is a bit hard, normally we don't use d d k and others patterns like this in Futsuu, except if the bpm is very low, so I will not mod this diff.

[Kantan]

It's a bit boring, try to use less 2/1.

  1. 01:20:623 (115) - remove? a bit hard for a beginner
  2. 01:21:445 (117) - add finish?
Good mapset, but Muzu and Futsuu needs more work

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Dolphin

dialgadu77 wrote:

Hi Dolphin! Here is the mod you requested!

[General]

  1. Standard SV for Taiko is 1.40. Consider using 1.40? I used 1.60 because I think the scrolling is too slow. But changing it anyways.
[Oni]

  1. 00:02:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - two solutions, or you put all notes with finish (execpt the 2-hit clusters of course), or you put no finishes at all could you explain a bit more? I don't think it's necessary to change the way it is because the two finishers is a good way to change between don/kat. So it would be nice if you could tell me why to change it.
  2. 00:16:513 (12) - remove, there isn't any note here in the part you're following fixed
  3. 00:18:157 (26) - ^ fixed
  4. 00:24:527 (73,74,75,76) - kkkd? fixed
  5. 00:59:664 (11) - k? fixed
  6. 01:09:321 (42,43,44) - ddk? sounds better i think fixed
[Muzukashii]

Well, this difficulty is a bit hard, so try to use patterns like ddk, kkd, kdk, dkd often. You are lucky, the BPM is quite low so you can put some. But I will not do a complete mod for this diff, because it needs more work. I will only point some things that really needs to be fixed. It was way too easy when I first created it so I was told to spice it up a bit with more 1/4's which made it too hard. I'll try to dim it down again.
  1. 00:03:773 (7) - remove finish, no reason to put a finisher here fixed
  2. 00:05:417 (13) - ^ fixed
  3. 00:07:060 (19) - ^ fixed
  4. 00:08:705 (25) - ^ fixed
  5. 00:10:348 (31) - ^ fixed
  6. 00:11:993 (37) - ^ fixed
  7. 00:13:636 (43) - ^ fixed
[Futsuu]

Here again, the difficulty is a bit hard, normally we don't use d d k and others patterns like this in Futsuu, except if the bpm is very low, so I will not mod this diff. I'm going to try and dim it down. Not so much though.

[Kantan]

It's a bit boring, try to use less 2/1.

  1. 01:20:623 (115) - remove? a bit hard for a beginner fixed
  2. 01:21:445 (117) - add finish? fixed
Good mapset, but Muzu and Futsuu needs more work I will try to work on them more!

Good luck!
Thanks a lot for the mod! :)
Kurokotei

Dolphin wrote:

could you explain a bit more? I don't think it's necessary to change the way it is because the two finishers is a good way to change between don/kat. So it would be nice if you could tell me why to change it.
Musically, there isn't anything which calls for a Finisher, but if you want you can keep like this. It's just a suggestion.
Topic Starter
Dolphin

dialgadu77 wrote:

Dolphin wrote:

could you explain a bit more? I don't think it's necessary to change the way it is because the two finishers is a good way to change between don/kat. So it would be nice if you could tell me why to change it.
Musically, there isn't anything which calls for a Finisher, but if you want you can keep like this. It's just a suggestion.
Okay. Thanks for explaining. I'll keep it so that it spices up Oni a bit. The beginning would be too boring without it really.
Betsuto
from M4M

sorry ... your Oni is like Inner ... I can't mod Inner orz
your map is very hard ... Futsuu ~ Muzukashii , Muzukashii ~ Oni , Oni ~ Inner ;w;

SPOILER
[Kantan]
00:32:540 (38)- don
00:35:828 (48)- don
00:41:993 (55,56)- don
00:45:280 (62)- don
00:53:088 (74)- don
00:55:143 (76,77)- don
00:58:431 (83)- don
01:04:595 (93)- don
01:08:294 (99,100)- don
01:11:582 (106)- don
01:17:746 (116)- don
01:25:554 (127)- don
01:28:842 (132)- don
01:38:705 (149)- don
01:48:157 (166,167)- don
01:51:445 (173)- don
01:55:143 (179)- don
01:57:609 (183)- don

[Futsuu]
00:36:650 (79)- don
00:38:294 (84)- don
00:41:993 (96,97)- don
00:44:458 (101)- don
00:45:280 (103)- don
00:53:088 (74)- don
00:55:143 (76,77)- don
00:58:431 (83)- don
01:04:595 (93)- don

[Muzukashii]
00:43:225 (202,203)- kat
00:45:691 (207)- kat
00:50:417 (219,220)- kat
and delete some note ... it's too hard for Muzukashii

[Oni]
sorry ... I can't mod Inner ;w;
Topic Starter
Dolphin

Betsuto wrote:

from M4M

sorry ... your Oni is like Inner ... I can't mod Inner orz Don't worry. Imo the Oni isn't too bad but its kinda like Inner if you compare it to arcade. But many Oni map standards are a lot higher on osu!
your map is very hard ... Futsuu ~ Muzukashii , Muzukashii ~ Oni , Oni ~ Inner ;w;

SPOILER
[Kantan]
00:32:540 (38)- don fixed
00:35:828 (48)- don fixed
00:41:993 (55,56)- don fixed
00:45:280 (62)- don fixed
00:53:088 (74)- don fixed
00:55:143 (76,77)- don fixed
00:58:431 (83)- don fixed
01:04:595 (93)- don fixed
01:08:294 (99,100)- don fixed
01:11:582 (106)- don fixed
01:17:746 (116)- don fixed
01:25:554 (127)- don fixed
01:28:842 (132)- don fixed
01:38:705 (149)- don fixed
01:48:157 (166,167)- don fixed
01:51:445 (173)- don fixed
01:55:143 (179)- don fixed
01:57:609 (183)- don fixed

fixed all.

[Futsuu]
00:36:650 (79)- don ok
00:38:294 (84)- don ok
00:41:993 (96,97)- don ok
00:44:458 (101)- don ok
00:45:280 (103)- don ok
00:53:088 (74)- don no, this note is very high pitch.
00:55:143 (76,77)- don ok
00:58:431 (83)- don ok
01:04:595 (93)- don ok

[Muzukashii]
00:43:225 (202,203)- kat ok
00:45:691 (207)- kat ok
00:50:417 (219,220)- kat ok
and delete some note ... it's too hard for Muzukashii Hm... The map is pretty ok atm for an 8 star Taiko Muzukashii.

[Oni]
sorry ... I can't mod Inner ;w;
I'll answer muzu later. In a hurry atm!

Thanks for the mod! :)
-xNaCLx-
Hi dolphin, m4m from my queue >.0

All of them are suggestions, ignore them if you don't like it.

[Oni]
00:16:821 - add d . it fits the melody better.
00:29:972 - ^

00:20:212 (41,42) - kd ?
00:33:362 (139) - k, if you use my mod

00:33:979 (144) - imo make it k will be better.

00:40:246 - add k

01:07:369 (29) - remove? this can enphasize 01:07:472 (30) better.

01:14:458 (74) - d? this note have lower pitch than 01:14:047 (71) ,also kkk gives a end feel but it's not, so i would make it d.

01:20:725 (115) - d?

02:43:225 (705) - d?

[Muzu]
00:41:581 (198 - 211) - why not make it like oni? here is a bit monotonic and sounds not good
00:54:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - same for here...if you do not follow oni, at least make it like the previous one (change 5,10 into d, otherwise all k sounds not good)

01:20:417 (92) - d?

02:00:280 (304) - d, here's just the end of the sound of 303, and is different from 304 and 305, so make it d.

no big problem but imo the kiai is quite hard for muzu player..is more like an oni. Maybe you can try to simplify some complex pattern..e.g. 02:16:718 (403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411)

[Futsuu]
00:57:608 (122) - d...
why do you map based on pitch on 00:41:582 (95 - 104) but not 00:46:513 (105 - 115) ...it looks strange, at least change some k to d at 00:46:513 (105 - 115) or change all in to k at 00:41:582 (95 - 104) (same as the next one, 00:54:732 (116 - 138))

[Kantan]
map looks fine to me..

Good luck to rank :)
Topic Starter
Dolphin

NewibornCLivee wrote:

Hi dolphin, m4m from my queue >.0

All of them are suggestions, ignore them if you don't like it.

[Oni]
00:16:821 - add d . it fits the melody better. Yes I agree! Fixed
00:29:972 - ^ Fixed

00:20:212 (41,42) - kd ? Fixed
00:33:362 (139) - k, if you use my mod Fixed. This fits well with the piano too.

00:33:979 (144) - imo make it k will be better. Fixed

00:40:246 - add k Seems neat. Fixed

01:07:369 (29) - remove? this can enphasize 01:07:472 (30) better. I realized I mapped this wrong anyways. Remapping this part.

01:14:458 (74) - d? this note have lower pitch than 01:14:047 (71) ,also kkk gives a end feel but it's not, so i would make it d. Sounds a bit odd, but you are right that it is lower pitch, so I am changing it.

01:20:725 (115) - d? nah, this follows the percussion sounds.

02:43:225 (705) - d? ok

[Muzu]
00:41:581 (198 - 211) - why not make it like oni? here is a bit monotonic and sounds not good copied oni over here and changed the 1/3 bits.
00:54:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - same for here...if you do not follow oni, at least make it like the previous one (change 5,10 into d, otherwise all k sounds not good) did the same as above.

01:20:417 (92) - d? no, I'm following the percussion.

02:00:280 (304) - d, here's just the end of the sound of 303, and is different from 304 and 305, so make it d. I agree to this one. Fixed

no big problem but imo the kiai is quite hard for muzu player..is more like an oni. Maybe you can try to simplify some complex pattern..e.g. 02:16:718 (403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411) I made the Kiai intentionally harder than the rest but it is a maybe a bit too hard. Going to remove a few in the 2 first kiai sections then the two last can be difficult. :P

[Futsuu]
00:57:608 (122) - d... fixed!
why do you map based on pitch on 00:41:582 (95 - 104) but not 00:46:513 (105 - 115) ...it looks strange, at least change some k to d at 00:46:513 (105 - 115) or change all in to k at 00:41:582 (95 - 104) (same as the next one, 00:54:732 (116 - 138)) Oh I didn't notice that. I fixed one note though. :P

[Kantan]
map looks fine to me.. Yay!

Good luck to rank :) Thanks!
Thank you so much NCL! ^^
AniMe666_old
I come from the queue
t/141314&start=0

[Kantan]

* 00:34:185 (40,41) - only those two maybe don
* 00:39:116 and 01:32:129 - this sounds like don as well ?
* 01:11:582 - I saw don on this similar one, but not really big deal I guess
* 01:17:746 - possibly can get some dons such like this
* 01:25:555 (127,129,130,132) - those 4 katsus are similar as the previous section I saw which are dons, but just my opinion
* 01:34:595 - ^
* 02:39:321 - can be put here ? instead 02:39:116 (252,253)
* 02:37:883 - don ?

[Futsuu]

* 00:33:362 - don ? or 00:35:006 - this don ?
* 00:36:445 - could be katsu just suggestion
* 01:07:883 - finish or don here ?
* 01:21:445 - finish -
* 01:26:376 - d k k k d maybe

[Muzukashii]

* I think can be end like 02:53:088 (8,9) - d K if Muzukashii
* Is it not too hard for Muzukashii ? can be 02:11:376 - remove to not too linky as an example of my suggestion

[Oni]

* 02:46:513 - don ? or 02:45:897 - don this ?


Here is my few suggestions about maps !
I think I don't have any on Oni , it is following the sound already well :)
Topic Starter
Dolphin

AniMe666 wrote:

I come from the queue
t/141314&start=0

[Kantan]

* 00:34:185 (40,41) - only those two maybe don nah, all the e-keys are very high pitch on this part.
* 00:39:116 and 01:32:129 - this sounds like don as well ? Mkay, changed.
* 01:11:582 - I saw don on this similar one, but not really big deal I guess fixed.
* 01:17:746 - possibly can get some dons such like this I thought about it, and fixed it in the end.
* 01:25:555 (127,129,130,132) - those 4 katsus are similar as the previous section I saw which are dons, but just my opinion fixed.
* 01:34:595 - ^ fixed
* 02:39:321 - can be put here ? instead 02:39:116 (252,253) I'm following the background e-keys in this section.
* 02:37:883 - don ? okay

[Futsuu]

* 00:33:362 - don ? or 00:35:006 - this don ? no, the piano is a very high pitch and kat fits for it.
* 00:36:445 - could be katsu just suggestion no, the e-keys go high-low-high-low.
* 01:07:883 - finish or don here ? added finish.
* 01:21:445 - finish - no, there is a reversed cymbal before that point but not after.
* 01:26:376 - d k k k d maybe okay.

[Muzukashii]

* I think can be end like 02:53:088 (8,9) - d K if Muzukashii I agree. Fixed.
* Is it not too hard for Muzukashii ? can be 02:11:376 - remove to not too linky as an example of my suggestion I tried adding mini-break that last whole beats ever 4th beat or so.

[Oni]

* 02:46:513 - don ? or 02:45:897 - don this ? okay.


Here is my few suggestions about maps !
I think I don't have any on Oni , it is following the sound already well :)
Thanks for the M4M!! You did it even though you had a Taiko Mapset ;w: You're too kind!
ts8zs
Random mod
Oni
00:15:794 (5) - k
00:48:979 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - ddkdkdk
01:02:130 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - kddkkdk
01:07:472 - k?
01:15:280 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - kdkkkdk
02:10:246 (474) - k
02:27:506 (603) - k
02:48:671 (712) - Remove
02:53:294 (744,745) - kD
02:36:548 (671) - k
Topic Starter
Dolphin

ts8zs wrote:

Random mod
Oni
00:15:794 (5) - k no, I want to keep it like this to have variety since there are many patterns that are kddkddk
00:48:979 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - ddkdkdk no, that sounds off-key. :I
01:02:130 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - kddkkdk okay
01:07:472 - k? no, following the kicks.
01:15:280 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - kdkkkdk okay
02:10:246 (474) - k okay
02:27:506 (603) - k no, this note doesn't go higher pitch.
02:48:671 (712) - Remove no, there is a guitar string here.
02:53:294 (744,745) - kD no, the guitar is very high pitch on the final note
02:36:548 (671) - k okay
Thanks for the mod! ^^ Just a little tip to improve your modding, make sure to explain why you want me to change these. I had to guess what you were thinking.
Yuzeyun
yes this is the best day ever I got to mod it, it took me a lot of time to do it but here you go :D

[Kantan]
I didn't like one but only one thing in this map, it's that :
00:39:116 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63) - This is absolutely too dense for a Kantan, I suggest cutting it in a few parts (3 would be the best)

Anyway...
00:15:280 (9,10,11,12,13) - this part sounds actually empty since you haven't HSed it. was it done on purpose ?
00:18:568 (14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - ddk d k d wouldn't be better ? that would keep the kat on 3rd beat as you did throughout the whole map. Remember, Kantan is supposed to introduce players to Taiko !
00:24:640 - 00:22:677 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - you've switched structures suddenly !
00:54:732 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83) - again, density
oh and :
SPOILER
00:45:691 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120) -
this has a bit too much kats, try to put some dons according to the relative pitch of the violin thing
01:07:472 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - density, cutting in two wouldn't hurt the map :D
01:32:130 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142) - it's a bit too hard here, simplify it ?
01:38:705 (148) - don ? it's beat 3 and you did don on every other beat 3 (out of 8)
01:41:992 (153) - ^
01:45:280 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - huuuuuueg density

[Oni]
The beginning part, until 00:15:280 - all the finishers need to be deleted... this is the same note repeated !
00:21:034 (49,50,51,52) - I don't think this is actually 1/6 but more 1/4 - because I heard something here : 00:21:342 -

Since you're mapping mainly to the instrument behind, I'll give you suggestions based off it :
00:19:287 (35) - kat, as the instrument goes higher here.
00:24:527 (72,73,74,75) - kkkd ? It goes down instead of up from what I hear
00:25:143 (77) - and don here if you applied the above suggestion

01:02:130 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - 00:48:979 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - 01:15:280 (77,78,79,80,81,82,83) - 01:55:143 (362,363,364,365,366,367,368) - Make them all the same ? This is the same thing, so...

01:20:828 (115) - Replace by a drumroll there : that would feel less empty and it's only one note ! (it should be 1 beat long)
02:02:232 (412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431) - it's a bit too long and too hard from the rest !
02:28:534 (609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628) - ^
this ain't starstream 2
02:40:349 (699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710) - it's very empty here, I strongly recommend to add a lot more notes here !

[Muzu]
00:07:060 (19,20,21,22,23,24) - This barely changes pitch, I think putting all dons would be a bit better
00:13:636 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - ^

omg wtf O_O
150 notes
00:15:280 (49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198) -
you mapped this like an oni, and moreover it's restless !! Check some ranked muzukashii difficulties to see how to remap !
ultimate restless
01:21:445 (95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327) -
what I said above
01:07:883 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - same but it's minor here

The rest of the kiai is also mapped like an Oni.. You need to check out ranked Muzukashii to see how to map a proper one !

02:40:349 (519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529) - this needs more mapping here...

Quick Summary : From 00:15:280 (49) - onwards, all I can suggest is a complete remap, I don't even like to say that :/

[Futsuu]
00:02:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - There's plenty of space to adopt this rhythm ! http://puu.sh/3CC3K.png (This will make it different from Kantan this way without being too hard). If you apply this, make sure you do it on all 8 bars.
00:18:568 (22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - Why not making a kat structure like this ? 00:15:280 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) -
00:21:856 (32,37) - both dons, since the song doesn't call for them
if you applied ^ : 00:23:910 (38) - kat for snare.
00:32:541 (67,68,69) - ddk, as there's nothing much which can actually justify the kkk.
00:37:472 (81,82,83) - ddk, ^
01:23:911 (185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193) - try http://puu.sh/3CErj.png instead : 186 has been taken out because it's overmap, 189 to don for a kick (the instrument where 187 is mapped to is quieter) and 191-192 are dons because it's only kicks and stuff.
I recommend to put this almost everywhere until 01:47:746 (264) - since it's basically copy-paste (well what I felt is this.)

02:00:897 (302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314) - This is a good kat structure, why don't you put it in the whole dam kiai ? :D
(Mapping to the lead-ish instrument sounds very awkward here)
02:40:349 (446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453,454,455,456) - You might as well need to map it a bit more here...


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Topic Starter
Dolphin

_Gezo_ wrote:

yes this is the best day ever I got to mod it, it took me a lot of time to do it but here you go :D

[Kantan]
I didn't like one but only one thing in this map, it's that :
00:39:116 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63) - This is absolutely too dense for a Kantan, I suggest cutting it in a few parts (3 would be the best) fixed this by making it mostly 1/1 triplets

Anyway...
00:15:280 (9,10,11,12,13) - this part sounds actually empty since you haven't HSed it. was it done on purpose ? oops fixed.
00:18:568 (14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - ddk d k d wouldn't be better ? that would keep the kat on 3rd beat as you did throughout the whole map. Remember, Kantan is supposed to introduce players to Taiko ! fixed
00:24:640 - 00:22:677 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - you've switched structures suddenly ! following e-keys, not a fixed pattern. Triplets happen whenever there is a 1/6 in the song. I think this is reasonable.
00:54:732 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83) - again, density fixed
oh and :
SPOILER
00:45:691 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120) -
this has a bit too much kats, try to put some dons according to the relative pitch of the violin thing I tried.
01:07:472 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - density, cutting in two wouldn't hurt the map :D fixed
01:32:130 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142) - it's a bit too hard here, simplify it ? fixed
01:38:705 (148) - don ? it's beat 3 and you did don on every other beat 3 (out of 8) fixed
01:41:992 (153) - ^ fixed
01:45:280 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - huuuuuueg density fixed

[Oni]
The beginning part, until 00:15:280 - all the finishers need to be deleted... this is the same note repeated ! No, I want to keep these finishers for more variety and challenge. I also think they fit the scenario.
00:21:034 (49,50,51,52) - I don't think this is actually 1/6 but more 1/4 - because I heard something here : 00:21:342 - changed to 1/4

Since you're mapping mainly to the instrument behind, I'll give you suggestions based off it :
00:19:287 (35) - kat, as the instrument goes higher here. fixed, btw they're called e-keys or synth
00:24:527 (72,73,74,75) - kkkd ? It goes down instead of up from what I hear fixed
00:25:143 (77) - and don here if you applied the above suggestion fixed

01:02:130 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - 00:48:979 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - 01:15:280 (77,78,79,80,81,82,83) - 01:55:143 (362,363,364,365,366,367,368) - Make them all the same ? This is the same thing, so... no, keeping them for variety.

01:20:828 (115) - Replace by a drumroll there : that would feel less empty and it's only one note ! (it should be 1 beat long)
eh, no. Since I am following the percussion for this bit a drumroll would be too cluttered.
02:02:232 (412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421,422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429,430,431) - it's a bit too long and too hard from the rest ! fixed but I only removed 1 note. Imo this really isn't hard. :L
02:28:534 (609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628) - ^ ^
this ain't starstream 2 maybe
02:40:349 (699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710) - it's very empty here, I strongly recommend to add a lot more notes here ! added some dons on the upbeats

[Muzu]
00:07:060 (19,20,21,22,23,24) - This barely changes pitch, I think putting all dons would be a bit better no, keeping it to reflect on Oni.
00:13:636 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - ^ ^

omg wtf O_O
150 notes
00:15:280 (49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198) -
you mapped this like an oni, and moreover it's restless !! Check some ranked muzukashii difficulties to see how to remap ! I made a lot of breaks, it now has a 1-beat break ever 2 beats, so fixed
ultimate restless
01:21:445 (95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325,326,327) -
what I said above fixed in the same fashion
01:07:883 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - same but it's minor here fixed somewhat I think

The rest of the kiai is also mapped like an Oni.. You need to check out ranked Muzukashii to see how to map a proper one !

02:40:349 (519,520,521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529) - this needs more mapping here... I did the same Oni

Quick Summary : From 00:15:280 (49) - onwards, all I can suggest is a complete remap, I don't even like to say that :/ No, I think this map could be better if I make many more breaks and use less 1/4. Let's hope its better when I update it

[Futsuu]
00:02:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - There's plenty of space to adopt this rhythm ! http://puu.sh/3CC3K.png (This will make it different from Kantan this way without being too hard). If you apply this, make sure you do it on all 8 bars. Fixed
00:18:568 (22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - Why not making a kat structure like this ? 00:15:280 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21) - because this song has a very varying musical pattern. Besides variation never hurts!
00:21:856 (32,37) - both dons, since the song doesn't call for them ok
if you applied ^ : 00:23:910 (38) - kat for snare. not following percussion, following e-keys.
00:32:541 (67,68,69) - ddk, as there's nothing much which can actually justify the kkk. ok
00:37:472 (81,82,83) - ddk, ^ no, piano+e-keys.
01:23:911 (185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193) - try http://puu.sh/3CErj.png instead : 186 has been taken out because it's overmap, 189 to don for a kick (the instrument where 187 is mapped to is quieter) and 191-192 are dons because it's only kicks and stuff. ok!
I recommend to put this almost everywhere until 01:47:746 (264) - since it's basically copy-paste (well what I felt is this.) nah, I want to keep the current pattern because of variation.

02:00:897 (302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314) - This is a good kat structure, why don't you put it in the whole dam kiai ? :D
(Mapping to the lead-ish instrument sounds very awkward here) I don't think it sounds awkward at all. So I am keeping it for that and for a bit more variation. I don't like to copypaste on songs like this too much.
02:40:349 (446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453,454,455,456) - You might as well need to map it a bit more here... more notes ftw!


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Thanks for the mod, answering Futsuu later ;; Remind me done thanks A LOT! ^^
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DakeDekaane
Hi there o/

Kinda M4M (I'm so late but I just got the mood to properly check this :p)
Just small suggestions

[Kantan]
00:21:034 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - I felt these 5 triples in a row a bit boring, even being a bit different, I'd remove 00:24:732 (25,28) for more variety.
01:11:171 - I feel a note is missing here, you had it in your previous patterns for this rhythm :p
01:27:199 (123) - I'd suggest to remove this to move out from x x xxx pattern for a bit.
01:30:486 (128,129,130) - kdk fits better here imo, as the piano has different tone in each note.
01:40:349 (144) - As I said a bit above, you could remove this.
01:43:636 (149,150,151) - Again, kdk fits better, it may be a bit repetitive, but kkk sounds quite bad here.
01:45:280 (152,153,154) - dkd here.
01:51:855 - I felt a kat missing here, if you do, make 01:51:033 (163) a don too.
02:14:869 (201) - I think a don is better here, as the intensity isn't the same as the previous note.
02:48:568 (256,257) - Maybe make these two dons? They're not following the same tone for the guitar.

[Futsuu]
00:34:390 (87) - I'd move this to 00:34:801, fits better with the sinthesizer (or whatever is called where that sounds come from)
00:37:472 (97,98,99,100) - I'd make this pattern kdd k, fits better with the piano.
00:40:760 (108) - You can remove if you are following the piano, if you do, also remove 00:41:376 (109).
00:47:746 (122) - A don fits better here imo.
01:00:896 (143) - ^
01:06:238 (151) - ^
01:09:115 (157) - ^
01:11:992 (165) - ^
01:30:897 (222) - Also here too, due to piano goes a bit down here.
01:32:541 (227) - ^
01:41:581 (256,262,267) - A kat doesn't fit too much here, it's better if it's a don as the pitch is quite low compared with the previous note to each one.
01:46:924 (274) - Remove this, it gives a bit of variety and the piano would be followed better.

[Muzukashii]
02:40:143 - I felt a note missing here, a don preferably, to give a better transition between both parts, maybe it's just me.
Also I'd suggest to use some ddd or kkk instead some of the mixed triples ;_;

I couldn't play Oni properly so I think it's better not mess with it >.<
That'd be all from my part, good luck \:3/
Topic Starter
Dolphin

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi there o/

Kinda M4M (I'm so late but I just got the mood to properly check this :p)
Just small suggestions

[Kantan]
00:21:034 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - I felt these 5 triples in a row a bit boring, even being a bit different, I'd remove 00:24:732 (25,28) for more variety. okay
01:11:171 - I feel a note is missing here, you had it in your previous patterns for this rhythm :p fixed
01:27:199 (123) - I'd suggest to remove this to move out from x x xxx pattern for a bit. fixed
01:30:486 (128,129,130) - kdk fits better here imo, as the piano has different tone in each note. fixed
01:40:349 (144) - As I said a bit above, you could remove this. fixed
01:43:636 (149,150,151) - Again, kdk fits better, it may be a bit repetitive, but kkk sounds quite bad here. fixed
01:45:280 (152,153,154) - dkd here. fixed
01:51:855 - I felt a kat missing here, if you do, make 01:51:033 (163) a don too. fixed both
02:14:869 (201) - I think a don is better here, as the intensity isn't the same as the previous note. fixed
02:48:568 (256,257) - Maybe make these two dons? They're not following the same tone for the guitar. okay, fixed.

[Futsuu]
00:34:390 (87) - I'd move this to 00:34:801, fits better with the sinthesizer (or whatever is called where that sounds come from) I agree! Fixed!
00:37:472 (97,98,99,100) - I'd make this pattern kdd k, fits better with the piano. fixed, although oxx patterns are uncommon in Futsuu.
00:40:760 (108) - You can remove if you are following the piano, if you do, also remove 00:41:376 (109). fixed both
00:47:746 (122) - A don fits better here imo. both have relatively high pitch, but okay
01:00:896 (143) - ^ fixed
01:06:238 (151) - ^ fixed
01:09:115 (157) - ^ fixed
01:11:992 (165) - ^ fixed
01:30:897 (222) - Also here too, due to piano goes a bit down here. sure
01:32:541 (227) - ^ eh..? kdd sounds really awkward here. Keeping it.
01:41:581 (256,262,267) - A kat doesn't fit too much here, it's better if it's a don as the pitch is quite low compared with the previous note to each one. fixed
01:46:924 (274) - Remove this, it gives a bit of variety and the piano would be followed better. okay

[Muzukashii]
02:40:143 - I felt a note missing here, a don preferably, to give a better transition between both parts, maybe it's just me. fixed
Also I'd suggest to use some ddd or kkk instead some of the mixed triples ;_; going to look around and fix some. :P

I couldn't play Oni properly so I think it's better not mess with it >.<
That'd be all from my part, good luck \:3/
Thanks for the mod! It was one of the better kind; helpful and descriptive!

Updated!
Flower
Hi~ Sorry for being late but this map is really beyond my playing level.
Feel free to reject if you think it doesn't fit your style.

[Oni]
00:15:794 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - feel kinda weird. maybe 00:15:897 (6) - k?
00:19:903 (40) - I think it sounds better if moved 1/4 earlier
00:40:862 - add d?
01:24:424 (139) - maybe delete. ending stream on red tick is not always good.
02:18:773 (536) - k?

[Muzu]
00:20:828 - add d, because it's boring having same rhythm all along.
00:27:403 - ^
00:33:979 - ^
also apply to the second chorus

Nothing to say to other 2 diffs.

Good luck~!
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