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Owl City ft. Breanne Duren - The Saltwater Room

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Kitty McWittles
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:07:12 PM

Artist: Owl City ft. Breanne Duren
Title: The Saltwater Room
BPM: 112
Filesize: 3685kb
Play Time: 02:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.14 stars, 103 notes)
  2. Hard (4.25 stars, 348 notes)
  3. Normal (3.51 stars, 137 notes)
Download: Owl City ft. Breanne Duren - The Saltwater Room
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Round 3, added normal.
Score gap between Normal and Hard is still large - 5.6M, but it's better than the 6.3M gap from before :o

Edit 1: -Always-'s mod.
Edit 2: Hanyuu's mod.
Edit 3: osuplayer's mod.
Edit 4: James' mod.
Edit 5: Lokamp's mod.
Edit 6: Added [Normal]
Edit 7: Tanmak's mod.
Edit 8: mrtn's mod.
Edit 9: Minor tweaks, full re-submit.
Edit 10: Changed artist.
Mifune24
Nice work on the beatmap. :D Though I have one issue.

[Hard]
2:19:017 - slider is hidden a little too well, easily mistaken for a beat. but that's just me.
EnigmaXVII
First mod so don't take any of my corrections too seriously :P

Mod
[Easy]
2:05:089(4) - Not sure if this should be a suggestion or not, but it's kind of hard to see. (For me anyway)

[Hard]
0:35:357(2) - Space it out more.
0:38:571(2) - ^
0:41:785(8) - A little too close to the previous hitcircle.
1:41:517(7) - Too close to (6)
2:58:125(1) - Too close to the end of the previous slider.
3:25:446(8) - Start of the slider is too close to the end of the previous one.
3:26:250(1) - Hitcircle too close to the end of the last slider.
3:28:660(4) - Start of the slider is too close to the end of the previous one.
4:07:767(8) - Slightly too close.
4:19:285(8) - ^

Suggestions

[Easy]
Same background maybe? Since the one for Easy is for a different song. (Or so it seems)
0:40:178(2) - Move the end of the slider up more for symmetry.
1:54:107(1) - Start the Kiai here.

[Hard]
Start the kiai on 1:54:107(1) & 3:13:392(1).


I like the song and it's a nice beatmap so... Starred~
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
[Easy]
Fixed the hidden note
Changed bg and combo colors to match

[Hard]
Random spacing fixes, some I liked, some I didn't.

[Both]
Kiai stayed.
Hanyuu
hello the offset is a bit early, try offset 11ms
source and tags need to be added to the beatmaps

Hard:

some combos are pretty long. think of dividing them to smaller ones 5~7
02:01:088 (7) - the timing section here is a bit to early i think. it will make the slider path sound become loud close to the end.
03:16:088 (9) - ^
03:25:045 (8) - ^
03:34:002 (10) - ^
4:17:153 suggestion: another slider would be nice here :)


Easy:

suggestion to make it easier:
lowering the overall difficulty -2
00:48:021 (2,3,4) - stacking red tick circles that are like this or make them a straight path


02:01:060 (6) - timing section thing again
02:03:021 (1,2,3,4) - suggest to improve this part a bit ~



overall a good and relaxing beatmap :) good job on creating it. starred
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles

Hanyuu wrote:

hello the offset is a bit early, try offset 11ms Fixed
source and tags need to be added to the beatmaps Added tags

Hard:

some combos are pretty long. think of dividing them to smaller ones 5~7 I tried to keep the combos in sync with the lyrics
02:01:088 (7) - the timing section here is a bit to early i think. it will make the slider path sound become loud close to the end. Fixed? It's not near as bad but you can still hear a TINY whistle :|
03:16:088 (9) - ^ ^
03:25:045 (8) - ^ ^
03:34:002 (10) - ^ ^
4:17:153 suggestion: another slider would be nice here :) I like it this way, plus I don't really see how a slider would fit


Easy:

suggestion to make it easier:
lowering the overall difficulty -2 Fixed
00:48:021 (2,3,4) - stacking red tick circles that are like this or make them a straight path Fixed


02:01:060 (6) - timing section thing again Fixed (see above)
02:03:021 (1,2,3,4) - suggest to improve this part a bit ~ Fixed



overall a good and relaxing beatmap :) good job on creating it. starred
Thanks for mod, star, and compliment :)
yaya
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Andrea
[Overall]

BPM: 112,00 - Offset: 15 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

- Set a preview point on all difficulties.

[Easy]

00:43:094 (2,3) - Spacing.
01:12:033 (4) - New combo.
01:58:094 (1) - A note after spinner is too hard for an easy map.
02:21:044 (4) - New combo.

[Hard]

00:40:045 (3) - New combo.
00:49:083 (7) - ^
00:55:018 (7) - ^
01:06:070 (7) - ^

02:14:020 (8) - Repeat of this slider is invisible.
02:31:061 (7) - New combo.
02:48:076 (8) - ^
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles

osu_CN_yaya wrote:

some suggestions .

for difficult . you'd better add a Normal diff. Hard score 6.6m,Easy just 0.3m. I'll work on a Normal

and there're tooo much hitsound in Hard . abit noisy . you can add whistle every 1 beat or 2beat. I kinda like the sound, but if someone else says something I'll tone them down a bit

others fine.

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Overall]

BPM: 112,00 - Offset: 15 (Remember to resnap all notes.) Fixed

- Set a preview point on all difficulties. I like where it starts now, if you can find a better point I'll use it though

[Easy]

00:43:094 (2,3) - Spacing. Fixed
01:12:033 (4) - New combo. Fixed
01:58:094 (1) - A note after spinner is too hard for an easy map. Fixed?
02:21:044 (4) - New combo. Fixed

[Hard]

00:40:045 (3) - New combo. Fixed
00:49:083 (7) - ^ Fixed
00:55:018 (7) - ^ Fixed
01:06:070 (7) - ^ Fixed
02:14:020 (8) - Repeat of this slider is invisible. Fixed
02:31:061 (7) - New combo. Fixed
02:48:076 (8) - ^ Fixed
Thanks for the mods :D
James2250
need preview point *under timing*

easy:
00:45:001 (4) - sounds better as finish than clap to me..
02:03:076 (2,3) - could be aligned on top of each other slightly better (turn off grid snap)
02:25:099 (1) - sounds better ending at 02:27:087

hard:
01:08:058 (2,4) - put 4 directly under 2
02:46:089 (7,8) - align together?
04:24:039 (3) - odd place to end..why not wait until the very end then fade out

*star*
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Diasios
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

Set preview point

[Easy]

It's ok

[Hard]

It's ok

Starred~
Lokamp
[General] when there are soft sounds along the song, lower the hitsounds's volume!

Easy
01:10:019 (2) - whistle instead of clap here
01:18:076 (4) - ^
02:24:039 (3) - soft finish for this slider
02:25:099 (spinner) - add a finish hitsound and end it on 02:29:750 (red timing tick)

Hard
00:50:090 (5) - soft finish on this slider's end
01:01:062 (5,6) - end these sliders with soft finish
03:01:089 (11) - remove hitsound's volume on this slider's end

... maybe there are TOO many hitsounds (especially whistles...) in some sections, but beatplacing was fine. Have your star! :3
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Tanmak
This song length is 4 minute and 30 second, so long in Hard. And this map has 3 difficulty.>w<
Fortunately, prologue part is over 30 second so I will modding. You have lucky! ;)

[Easy]
I can't find problem.

[Normal]
00:43:943 (2) Remove Clap?
02:07:247 (1) Put another note instead of spinner. After spinner, appear circle right away so can't hit it easily in normal.

[Hard]
01:17:157 (6) Remove Clap and add finish.
02:14:211 (8) Remove whistle. But remove way is a little difficult. When you click this slide note in timeline(like a picture), then remove whistle. Because Normal whistle sound occur a little.

(Remember, when circle which is part of slide note surrounded red line, then is removed effect sound this part only.)


03:34:032 (10) Change to normal circle, and add some note with new combo.

Starred~
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles

Tanmak wrote:

This song length is 4 minute and 30 second, so long in Hard. And this map has 3 difficulty.>w<
Fortunately, prologue part is over 30 second so I will modding. You have lucky! ;) Hehe :P

[Easy]
I can't find problem.

[Normal]
00:43:943 (2) Remove Clap? Fixed
02:07:247 (1) Put another note instead of spinner. After spinner, appear circle right away so can't hit it easily in normal. Fixed

[Hard]
01:17:157 (6) Remove Clap and add finish. Fixed
02:14:211 (8) Remove whistle. Fixed
03:34:032 (10) Change to normal circle, and add some note with new combo. Fixed

Starred~
Thanks much ^^
Armin
[Easy]

No problems found.

[Normal]

00:49:568 Whistle also on the third repeat
01:01:354 Stack perfectly with (1)'s end
01:04:568 (1,2) Whistles at the start
01:09:657 Add another repeat, then move 1/4 to the spinner to the right and make it shorten of another 1/4
01:40:997 As above
01:37:515 Add a finish at the end? o.o
02:09:390 The repeat of this slider is hidden. Consider to move it in another position.
02:23:050 Spacing

[Hard]

02:23:050 Make this better, like in the picture:



00:55:729 Remove the whistle in the middle of the slider
01:03:229 Whistle
01:08:318 As above
01:10:193 Stack the hitcircle perfectly with (2)'s end (don't use the grid snap in this case)
01:36:979 Whistle on the repeat
01:37:782 Whistle
01:38:854 (1,3) Whistles
01:41:532 Whistle
02:34:836 Clap
02:35:372 Clap at the end
04:19:300 Add whistles instead

Starred. :D
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles

Armin wrote:

[Normal]
02:09:390 The repeat of this slider is hidden. Consider to move it in another position.

[Hard]
04:19:300 Add whistles instead
Fixed all but those, the slider itself isn't hidden, and the repeat shows up late enough imo that it's ok (I'll change if a BAT or someone else has an issue though), and I just like the finish sounds better than whistles there.

Thanks though :D
Mashley
Artist is Owl City ft. Breanne Duren
Oh, and you need a better mp3 right?
Takuma
Fine with me. I checked for the artist and got just Owl City. If he wants to change then he can, but the bubble is already here if he doesn't. Call me back for a rebubble if you change it, though.
mrtn
[normal]
02:08:854 (1,2) - this overlap isn't allowed
02:19:568 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this spacing change isn't OK in normal

fix this and i'll rebubble.
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Artist is Owl City ft. Breanne Duren
Oh, and you need a better mp3 right?
I'll leave it as just Owl City since that's how it shows in my mp3s, and I need a better mp3 for viewtopic.php?t=20468, not this :P I've got one already though, just need to get it revived sometime soon.

mrtn wrote:

[normal]
02:08:854 (1,2) - this overlap isn't allowed
02:19:568 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this spacing change isn't OK in normal

fix this and i'll rebubble.
Fixed.
mrtn
you need to do a full submit. The file OwlCityStars.jpg isn't used but is in the osz/folder.
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
I swear I did that already... ohwell, re-submitted.
mrtn
rebubbled
Jarby
Switch that .mp3, it's horrible. OwlCityStars.jpg and the .osb are still in the folder, remove them. Artist is Owl City ft. Breanne Düren regardless of what your .mp3 is telling you.
mrtn
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Jarby
Actually, I think I'd downloaded this map before. Whoops.
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
K I'm stupid. How to change artist without submitting a whole new song/thread? Or is that what I have to do?

And I have a higher quality mp3, but it's a different version of the song so I can't use it.
Matma Rex
Awesome. I've only got few comments regarding artistic look and feel of map. :P

I dont like the white outline of background; I can fix it if you want.

There is a lot of notes which seem like they should align with the center of screen (the center of spinners), but do not. You might try to nudge all notes one smallest grid down to fix it.

[Easy]
00:35:372 (2,1,2) - end/startpoints of (2) and (2) do not match, it'd look better if they did.
02:07:514 (1,1) - make these more perfect?

[Normal]
01:27:604 (5) - try to make it centered horizontally?

[Hard]
Win.
Matma Rex
Really, the current mp3 is baaad. Here's a great-quality, 256 kbps mp3: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/203496 ... r_Room.mp3

Make sure to fix offset after changing it.


If you think that 7.4 MB is too much, let me know, i'll recompress it with 192 kbps quality (it will be ~5.5 MB).
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
Ehhhh... that's the same mp3 as the one I have but can't use. There's 2 different versions of this song, 1 from the album Maybe I'm Dreaming (the one I mapped) and 1 from Ocean Eyes (where your mp3 and my other, HQ one, come from). I can't use either of them since they're a different song and would require too much remapping.

Anyone have a higher quality rip of Maybe I'm Dreaming?

And I'm still stumped as to how to change the artist without making a new thread.
Matma Rex

Samurai_X wrote:

Ehhhh... that's the same mp3 as the one I have but can't use. There's 2 different versions of this song, 1 from the album Maybe I'm Dreaming (the one I mapped) and 1 from Ocean Eyes (where your mp3 and my other, HQ one, come from). I can't use either of them since they're a different song and would require too much remapping.
The only real difference I noticed was shorter intro. Don't be lazy.

Samurai_X wrote:

And I'm still stumped as to how to change the artist without making a new thread.
The Ultimate Guide To Changing Artist Name / Song Title by Gens:

1. - Make sure you have the previous artist/title you were using before attempting to do this.
2. - Check back the menu if it says "Latest version but not approved".
3. - Enter to the editor again in any difficulty.
4. - Change the artist/title in that difficulty, and save.
5. - Now Full Submit - without going back to the menu.
6. - Wait...
7. - Once it's done, fix the artist/title in the other difficulties.
8. - Now a Standard submission will do.
9. - Done! Make sure you fix the thread title too; it isn't fixed by the BSS.

(comes from viewtopic.php?p=223990#p223990)
I heard it works.
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
Actually there's quite a few different parts, so I'm hunting for a higher quality version of Maybe I'm Dreaming.

Thanks a ton for helping me fix the artist though :D

Edit: Eh... I think I broke something. [Easy] always says it needs to be updated to the latest version, but it won't. And if I try to reupload any difficulty on either submission method, it tries to make a new thread.
mrtn
Have you changed all difficulties to the right name? If you did, try standard submission. Maybe that works. If not: contact peppy i guess.
Topic Starter
Kitty McWittles
Yea... like I said before, trying to resubmit at all tries to make a new thread. I rechecked the artist and everything again, still can't find a problem.

PMing peppy I guess.
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