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Jin - Ayano no Koufuku Riron

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SapphireGhost
Here I am, modding Jin songs again.

General
- Tick Rate 2 would work very well on all difficulties here. The BPM is very slow, so many of the sliders are lacking ticks. Raising the tick rate shows off your custom slider tick and improves the map, in my opinion.

Luka's Theory
- I know it's less popular, but I think AR7 would be much more appropriate for a slow map like this.
02:17:284 (1,2,3) - Stacks under kicksliders like this are confusing to read with Hidden. Try to move the notes so they don't hide each other.
02:20:424 (8,1) - Awkward spacing here, just space it normally.
02:32:110 (1) - Starting the spinner on a white tick makes sense here.
04:09:784 (1) - ^
04:54:086 (2,3) - More readable with (3) in a different position than (2).
05:07:517 (4,5) - Similar to above, but with (5) in a different position than (4).
05:16:238 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is tricky to do with circles. Since the timing is so strange, using sliders might relieve the player of some accuracy stress, but it's your choice.

Kiiwa's Theory
02:22:168 (3,1) - There isn't need for a different spacing here and it plays awkwardly, so stick with 1.1x.
03:51:121 (2,1) - ^
03:59:842 (3,1) - ^
04:29:493 - It might be nice to drag the break to this point.
05:16:238 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,1) - Same comment as on Luka's Theory about using all circles at this point.

Yukari's Theory
03:58:796 (3) - This loop could be a bit nicer, see the "Loops" section in this thread. Alternatively, try a different shape since the slider velocity is a bit low and we don't want to confuse new players.
05:13:447 (3,4) - Arranging the notes like this looks nicer.

August 15 would be the best day possible to rank this map, for the Kagerou Project. We'll see if it works out.
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka
Yes please do it on Aug 15. I will be on a trip and back on mid night of Aug 14, so I will fix it first.

Hmm I think the stacks part and the anti-jump slider is fine in a Hard diff like this. 0.0 ppl can recognize them by approaching circles ouo.

Also I was thinking about AR7 before but still I think AR8 fits better so I wanna keep them.

About the last part, I know circles are kinda difficult but making sliders would makes the slider end off, which once happened in this before, p/1057948#p1057948

I'm trying to avoid it since I don't really know how to adjust the slider end. Also I think circles are fine and easier to make a loop. :3 So I will keep them.

Others are fixed. Including Yukari and kiiwa's diffs.

@[Navy]: Thanks for modding, I fixed the NC and also a bit in kiiwa's diff -3- Thanks again and I will mod your map later.

So self-poped first.
a32
Yeah rank it on aug 15th~~~
Garven
Beyond the small mods from IRC, the timing seems to be a bit off.

Faust and bliss both got 1610 (and 1611, but the same thing). Try that and see if it works better for you.
Faust
Hi.

So this song was being talked about in the lounging corner and I happened to be interested.

Timing currently is rather early. Try starting the first offset at 1,614.

Timing:

Slowdown:

BPM: 85.00, Offset: 314,869
BPM: 84.00, Offset: 315,574
BPM: 83.00, Offset: 316,288
BPM: 78.00, Offset: 317,010
BPM: 83.00, Offset: 317,394
BPM: 75.50, Offset: 318,478
BPM: 68.00, Offset: 319,272
BPM: 70.00, Offset: 319,713
BPM: 60.00, Offset: 320,141
BPM: 44.50, Offset: 321,141
BPM: 28.50, Offset: 321,815
BPM: 35.40, Offset: 322,867

Piano:

BPM: 81.00, Offset: 324,138
BPM: 77.00, Offset: 324,878
BPM: 81.00, Offset: 325,137
BPM: 82.00, Offset: 325,507
BPM: 75.00, Offset: 325,872
BPM: 52.00, Offset: 326,272
BPM: 57.50, Offset: 326,848
Faust
Sat down with Luka and did some minor IRC modding.

Log:

11:36 Megurine Luka: Faust san 0.0~~
11:37 Faust: ?
11:37 Megurine Luka: SG told me you suggested 1610 for the offset for ayano map 0.0
11:37 Faust: 1614
11:37 Megurine Luka: OAO
11:37 Faust: I'm working on the final stages of timing atm
11:37 Faust: so I'm a little busy
11:37 Megurine Luka: Oh Thanks~
11:37 Faust: I'll make a post
11:37 Megurine Luka: ><
11:38 Megurine Luka: btw besides the final stage
11:38 Megurine Luka: 03:27:415 (8,9,10,11,1) - some parts like this feels off 0.0
11:42 Faust: ah
11:43 Faust: early or late ?
11:43 Megurine Luka: late ;w;
11:44 Faust: I see no problem on my side
11:44 Megurine Luka: OAO
11:44 Megurine Luka: I will check again after you post >w<
11:45 Faust: 1,614 seems fine for the whole thing until the piano
11:45 Megurine Luka: OAO
11:47 Megurine Luka: 03:28:125 (1) - 0.0 this one if 25%
11:48 Megurine Luka: 03:28:823 (2) - but this one is fine
11:48 Megurine Luka: so I think it might be just a little off for this part of drum?
11:49 Megurine Luka: 03:50:102 (7,8,1) - and this part also
11:49 Megurine Luka: but when flows to 03:51:148 (3) - , it back to the correct offset again 0.0
11:50 Faust: the constant timing and metronome is fine
11:50 Faust: the drummer/composer just made it a little slow
11:50 Megurine Luka: O.O~
11:50 Faust: doesn't really matter
11:50 Megurine Luka: ok ouo
11:50 Megurine Luka: Then I have no problem with this offset OUO
11:53 Faust: posted
11:53 Megurine Luka: Thanks ><
11:53 Faust: you're welcome
11:54 Faust: no one told you before that the timing was early ?
11:54 Faust: lol
11:54 Faust: I am surprised
11:54 Megurine Luka: Q.Q no. I actually I was using the 1600+timing before
11:55 Megurine Luka: and was told about the little stream part
11:55 Faust: stream ?
11:55 Megurine Luka: yep just the drum thing
11:55 Faust: oh that
11:55 Faust: it's not really late/early or anything
11:55 Megurine Luka: ;w; yes
11:55 Faust: 03:28:474 (11) - only this is a little bit late
11:56 Faust: by
11:56 Faust: like
11:56 Megurine Luka: ouo right
11:56 Faust: 4 ms
11:56 Faust: lol
11:56 Faust: that's nothing
11:56 Megurine Luka: lol
11:56 Faust: this is a legit mp3 right
11:56 Megurine Luka: do I need to add both of the piano and slowdown part?
11:56 Faust: not a rip from a video
11:56 Megurine Luka: yep 0.0
11:56 Faust: you mapped the slowdown
11:56 Faust: so yeah I guess
11:56 Faust: the piano is optional
11:56 Megurine Luka: ouo
11:57 Megurine Luka: right
11:57 Faust: since you didn't map it
11:57 Faust: but it'll look nice and complete
11:57 Faust: so I recommend :D
11:57 Megurine Luka: :O O okay that's good
11:57 Faust: let me know if there's anything off
11:57 *Faust takes a break
11:57 Megurine Luka: thanks again =3=
11:58 Faust: np
12:05 Megurine Luka: 05:21:815 (7) - only this one seems a bit late 0.0
12:07 Megurine Luka: http://puu.sh/42stz.png
12:07 Megurine Luka: OAO disconnected
12:08 Faust: maybe 2-3 ms
12:08 Faust: lol
12:08 Faust: noted
12:08 Megurine Luka: ouo
12:09 Faust: 2, yeah.
12:09 Faust: 2 ms changes are actually quite big in this song
12:09 Megurine Luka: yes ouo
12:09 Faust: anything else ?
12:09 Megurine Luka: nope :D
12:09 Faust: I think the timing is alright
12:10 Faust: if it feels late, then it's probably on-the-dot
12:10 Faust: anything 6 ms and above difference will be an actual problem
12:11 Megurine Luka: oh
12:11 Megurine Luka: another small problem
12:11 Megurine Luka: about the BPM: 57.50, Offset: 326,848
12:11 Megurine Luka: last one
12:11 Megurine Luka: for the last spinner
12:11 Megurine Luka: I feel a bit late 0.0
12:12 Faust: 05:22:867 - the spinner is here ?
12:12 Faust: lol
12:12 Megurine Luka: yep
12:12 Megurine Luka: I mean
12:12 Faust: 05:24:138 to 05:24:878 (12) - is 1/3
12:12 Megurine Luka: the ending :D
12:12 Faust: by the way
12:12 Megurine Luka: Oh
12:12 Megurine Luka: I see
12:13 Faust: 05:26:848 - so, this is late ?
12:13 Faust: by the way, the snapping for this is 1/12
12:13 Faust: you'll get 4 notes
12:14 Megurine Luka: O.O
12:15 Megurine Luka: but I feel ends at 05:27:043 will be better 0.0
12:16 Megurine Luka: no 05:27:043 is a bit early but 05:27:108 is a bit late TAT
12:16 Faust: uh
12:17 Faust: modify the BPM until it goes to maybe 80 ?
12:17 Faust: I mean
12:17 Faust: 05:27:080
12:17 Faust: or something
12:17 Faust: I don't know
12:17 Faust: 108 is perfect imo
12:17 Megurine Luka: O.O
12:19 Megurine Luka: well you know, it's acutally only a .. what's that called in English? legato?
12:20 Faust: think so
12:20 Faust: piano shit, etc
12:20 Megurine Luka: yep
12:20 Megurine Luka: so just let it be 108 0.0 ~
12:20 Faust: yay
12:20 Megurine Luka: I will make the timing in other diffs consistent and then upload \:D/
12:20 Faust: sure
12:20 Faust: I won't post a full mod
12:20 Faust: unless you really really want me to
12:21 Megurine Luka: :O timing is fine Really thanks!
12:21 Faust: hehe
12:21 Faust: you're welcome.
12:29 Faust: are you a guy or a girl ?
12:29 Faust: sometimes people refer to you as "she"
12:29 Faust: and then some Chinese as "he"
12:40 Megurine Luka: oh
12:40 Megurine Luka: I am a girl
12:41 Megurine Luka: :S
12:47 Megurine Luka: hmm can you actually take a full mod and rebub? cuz SG and me both wish it can be ranked today >.<
12:49 Faust: :S
12:49 Faust: S:
12:51 Megurine Luka: Q.Q
12:51 Faust: SG can't rebubble ?
12:51 Faust: lol
12:51 Megurine Luka: he wants to rank this >.<
12:52 Faust: this guy.
12:52 Megurine Luka: lol
12:54 Faust: apparently, you have unused files ?
12:54 Megurine Luka: OAO!
12:55 Faust: particles
12:55 Megurine Luka: which one 0.0
12:55 Faust: scorebar
12:55 Faust: maker
12:55 Megurine Luka: oh they're not unused
12:55 Faust: marker*
12:55 Megurine Luka: skins :D
12:55 Faust: probably AIbat being dumb
12:55 Megurine Luka: yep 0.0
12:57 Megurine Luka: particles are the new skins effect ><
12:57 Megurine Luka: the thing like fireworks
12:57 Megurine Luka: but scorebar marker seems useless
12:57 Megurine Luka: deleted
12:57 Faust: map seems fine
12:58 Megurine Luka: OK I will upload again ><
12:58 Megurine Luka: done :D
12:59 Faust: 04:54:113 (2) - this one is odd though
12:59 Faust: why not shift the slider to - 04:54:288 - instead
12:59 Faust: of having that note there
13:00 Megurine Luka: you mean http://puu.sh/42uth.jpg ?
13:01 Faust: yup
13:01 Megurine Luka: okay
13:02 Megurine Luka: fixed :S
13:02 Megurine Luka: and uploaded :D
13:04 Faust: nice skin by the way
13:05 Faust: the slider ticks remind me of my country
13:05 Megurine Luka: :D
13:05 Faust: because of the crescent and star
13:05 Megurine Luka: I see :D
13:05 Megurine Luka: it's a very lovely pattern
13:05 Faust: kiiwa maps Normal ~ Hard pretty well
13:06 Faust: but her Insanes become difficult
13:06 Megurine Luka: yes
13:06 Megurine Luka: T.T
13:06 Faust: I've seen a lot of her maps (excluding CURRICULUMACHINE)
13:06 Faust: overlap party
13:06 Megurine Luka: yes
13:06 Megurine Luka: overlap party
13:07 Megurine Luka: with curved flow
13:07 Faust: I have a suggestion for her
13:07 Faust: 04:21:148 (1) -
13:07 Faust: http://puu.sh/42uGc.jpg
13:08 Faust: mind if you send a PM
13:08 Faust: that's about it
13:08 Megurine Luka: I can actually fixed for her
13:08 Megurine Luka: as always
13:08 Faust: 04:24:637 (1) - then this slider will be the same
13:09 Faust: to mirror the going back
13:10 Faust: that's all
13:10 Faust: let me once you update
13:12 Megurine Luka: all done :D
13:12 Faust: we're all set
13:12 Megurine Luka: XD

Without further ado.
SapphireGhost
After a day's work with help from Garven, blissfulyoshi and Faust, the map is now ready to be ranked right on time. We'll dedicate it to the good health of Megurine Luka and family, best wishes to all of you and enjoy your newly ranked map!
Azure
大哥恭喜!!
ts8zs
Conz~
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka
Thank you all for your help!

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pw384
Kiiwa
yay~~ :)
hoLysoup
哇~~
mintong89
太神了 :)
Alarido
excuse me I'm sooo late but....


RAAAAANKEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ^^

Congratz Megurine luka ^^

Thanks Nymph & Faust & SapphireGhost
gfcjyb
为啥是VOCALOID3的tag。。。我每周搜一次vocaloid看有无新rank图结果把这个漏掉了。。。!
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka
我搜vocaloid可以搜到的啊.w.
Tateyama Kana
>:( :) :oops:
Tateyama Kana
Funny :) :oops:
Gigajizzo
I love this beatmap!
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