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Jin - Ayano no Koufuku Riron

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Megurine Luka
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Megurine Luka
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年8月15日 at 13:11:21

Artist: Jin
Title: Ayano no Koufuku Riron
Tags: Kagerou Project IA Shizen no Teki P Vocaloid3 ayano's theory of happinness yutsuki yukari kiiwa
BPM: 86
Filesize: 23722kb
Play Time: 05:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Kiiwa's Theory (2.81 stars, 344 notes)
  2. Luka's Theory (4.61 stars, 560 notes)
  3. Yukari's Theory (0.86 stars, 211 notes)
Download: Jin - Ayano no Koufuku Riron
Download: Jin - Ayano no Koufuku Riron (no video)
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You're never alone, Ayano.
#善良图#
ALL DIFFs DONE. Enjoy our 善良ness.
ReDL if before 2013.08.06
Skins added and mp3/video changed.
I used the size of new skins from ppy for hit300 hit100 etc. so don't worry about that 0.0
Anyway enjoy the new hit 300 effect with little stars.

This map is ranked on Aug 15. Yes you know why it is important for this song.
Last edited by Megurine Luka , edited 35 times in total.
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
4,298 posts
Joined July 2011
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
先占沙发
Kiiwa
928 posts
Joined January 2010
Kiiwa
:3 ill make it
EA_ory
5 posts
Joined March 2013
EA_ory
如果是mania的专铺，这谱面真是太棒了！ :lol:
Megurine Luka
2,579 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka
OTL完全不会mania
EA_ory
5 posts
Joined March 2013
EA_ory
osu模式吾辈弱爆了，所以只能凭mania模式来感觉= =。mania打起来的感觉真心舒服。
Meisle
158 posts
Joined June 2012
Meisle
; ;我觉的offest是1552（总觉的要比原来那个提前一点）
不管怎么说喜欢这首歌._.
Alarido
1,744 posts
Joined September 2012
Alarido
From The SLOW BPM Free Mod Queue!

Legenda wrote:

:!: → Unrankable things, must fix
:?: → My human doubts, things to consider
:idea: → Tips & Tricks to make your map better
♥ → Greetings
* → Just comments, not mods
Naked Lines → Mods
Let's go!

* No general issues. Let's go ahead →

[Yukari's Theory]
♥ The entire diff is clean and sounds fine, but...
03:58:796 (3) - This loop slider can be improved as explained at Making Delicious Sliders.

[Luka's Theory]
♥ Like the other diff, this one sounds fine, but...
03:54:610 (5,6,7) - A bit confusing and harder-to-read overlapping here. A suggestion is presented here → http://puu.sh/3iY0C.jpg ← but not so good (mainly for the flow), but at least was made more readable.

And that's it ^^

Perfect mappers live here (: so take a

and GO GO RANK ^^

Att.

(BATs, let's check and Bubble this!)
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
4,298 posts
Joined July 2011
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
from your queue


Luka's theory

  1. 00:06:121 (6) - 感觉这个不好, 要删掉
  2. 00:30:889 (3) - 稍微往里一点..? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820642
  3. 00:56:354 (5) - 这个都叠到下面去了.. 我觉得让(1)和绿色的(3)叠在一起, 然后整个拉上去比较好
  4. 01:11:354 (8) - blanket没做好
  5. 01:17:284 (1) - ^
  6. 01:25:307 (6) - 出去了。。你看看这样行不 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820648
  7. 02:07:168 (1) - 试试放个3/4在这里
  8. 02:17:284 (1,2,3) - 叠的不科学, 你test看看需不需要手动
  9. 02:20:424 (8,1) - 好
  10. 03:34:377 (2) - 这样舒服一点 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820656
  11. 03:50:249 (6,1) - 这是什么! 用个滑条接在03:50:075 (5) - 吧 233
  12. 03:55:133 (6) - 不好看
Yukari's Theory

  1. 00:02:982 (2) - blanket没摆好
  2. 00:58:796 (4) - 这个往右一点
  3. 00:59:493 (5) - 然后这个节奏有点不对, 你把reverse去了 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820659
  4. 01:07:866 (3) - blanket没摆好 其实右边的flow还好一点
  5. 04:40:656 (1,2) - blanket
Azure
771 posts
Joined November 2010
Azure
大哥にゃ

[General]
IA是屬於Vocaloid3系列的tags記得加個3~

[Yukari's Theory]
  1. 00:21:121 Spinner 從00:20:598 - 00:23:912結束
  2. 01:05:773 (1) 去whistle +finish
  3. 01:28:098 (1) ^
  4. 01:49:726 (1) -NC 01:50:424 (2) +NC
  5. 02:01:586 (1) 去whistle +finish
  6. 02:04:377 (4) ^ 相反
  7. 02:43:447 (1) 去whistle +finish
  8. 02:54:610 (1) ^
  9. 03:16:935 (1) ^
  10. 03:27:400 -NC 03:28:098 (2) +NC
[Luka's Theory]
  1. 02:12:226 +note (因為shi-awase是連在一起的 -/-)
  2. 02:29:493 (6) 再折返一次? (慢著)
  3. 02:48:505 +note (vocal..)
  4. 03:15:540 (8) 拉長到 03:16:063 結束
  5. 03:18:156 +note?
  6. 04:41:703 (2,3) http://puu.sh/3ndDe.jpg
  7. 04:44:144 (9) http://puu.sh/3ndFi.jpg
  8. 04:48:330 (4) http://puu.sh/3ndIc.jpg
大哥可不可以求mutualにゃ。
Yutsuki yukari
Yutsuki yukari
:)
jogfi2002
189 posts
Joined July 2009
jogfi2002
[General]

无。


[Yukari's Theory]

感觉这个难度是只想在白线上下NOTE？

00:52:517 (4) - 弄成弯的可能比较好看？
00:59:493 (5) - 移到284,92
01:06:470 (2,3) - 包好，或者把NOTE往右上挪一下
01:12:052 (1) - 换成一个1/4 slider
01:37:866 (4) - 弄成弯的可能比较好看？
02:31:761 (1) - spinner离上一个NOTE太近，建议放在红线上开始，也更合节奏
02:56:005 (2) - 缩短为1/4的slider
02:57:051 - 如果你有考虑在白线之外的地方上NOTE，这里可以加一个（在上一条修改了的前提下）
05:07:865 (3,4) - 有一点点难看
05:16:935 (1) - 这个spinner实在是有点nazi，太长而且不舒服


[Luka's Theory]

这个应该是HARD难度？
AR改成7好像比较舒服。

00:02:284 (2,3) - 建议改成这样：


00:05:424 (5,6) - 建议改成这样：


00:06:819 (1,2) - 这里我觉得跟人声会更好
00:16:586 (1) - 缩短slider，在白线结束更自然，后面类似的排列同感（打的时候感觉不太顺）
00:46:935 (2) - 这个地方也是改成2note+1slider感觉比较顺
00:55:831 (4,5) - 有点出界了
01:03:331 (2) - 换成3个NOTE如何？
01:14:145 (1) - 同00:16:586 (1)
02:09:261 (4,5,6) - 没叠好，看间距貌似是故意这么放的？
02:12:575 (4) - 删掉
02:17:284 (1,2,3) - 建议改成这样：


02:18:330 (3) - 同00:16:586 (1)
02:19:028 (4,5) - 如果上面那条改了，这里就合成一个slider吧
02:32:284 (1) - 不在10那里开始么- -
02:56:354 (5,6) - 合成一个slider
03:07:168 (7) - 同00:16:586 (1)
03:41:703 (1) - ^
03:44:144 (6,7) - 有点难看
04:09:784 (1) - 这个倒是可以在长白线上开始
04:53:214 (1,2,3,4,5) - 或者可以考虑下这样：（现在这个节奏，前面的折返slider有点怪，后面的单点没问题）



就这么多吧~
The-Gabe
70 posts
Joined March 2013
The-Gabe
I am a noob at modding..........
hoLysoup
1,846 posts
Joined September 2009
hoLysoup
hihi~

[Yukari]
01:47:633 (3) - NC?
01:49:726 (1,2) - and then switch NC here?
04:08:563 (2) - slider end finish?
04:46:935 (1) - add strong beat here? or maybe drum sound
that's all ~

[Luka]
00:08:563 (5) - 這要不往上彎？
00:55:831 (4,5) - 會不會太下面了一點？ 圈圈有點被遮住
01:04:377 (4) - 這個好像.. off timing, 跟背景音樂聽起來有差距. 我也不知道該怎麼修, 再多加紅線？
01:06:121 (5) - NC?
01:12:924 (5,6,7) - 雖然我試玩的時候沒有miss, 但是這個擺法有點confusing?
01:50:424 (3) - NC?
02:12:749 (5) - NC? combo有點太長了
03:05:772 (4,5) - (5)不要疊在(4)上面？ like here: 03:07:168 (7,8)
03:26:703 (7) - NC?
03:50:249 (6,1) - mmm.. spacing調整一下？
04:50:424 (1) - 背景音樂很強大　加個重音吧？　或是鼓聲
05:19:185 (2,3,4) - spacing再更多一點？　讓慢下來的節奏更明顯
恩就這樣 :>

difficulty spread的差距會不會太大了一些？　easy的難度過於簡單, 雖然中間還有一個diff
可以m4m嗎？可以的話謝啦～
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/103094

好歌, 加油加油!!
Megurine Luka
2,579 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka
大感谢0.0

不过这两天可能没太有空。大概后天才能回mod了TAT
Megurine Luka
2,579 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

from your queue


Luka's theory

  1. 00:06:121 (6) - 感觉这个不好, 要删掉 还行应该
  2. 00:30:889 (3) - 稍微往里一点..? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820642 k
  3. 00:56:354 (5) - 这个都叠到下面去了.. 我觉得让(1)和绿色的(3)叠在一起, 然后整个拉上去比较好 k
  4. 01:11:354 (8) - blanket没做好 k
  5. 01:17:284 (1) - ^
  6. 01:25:307 (6) - 出去了。。你看看这样行不 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820648 AIMOD没报错我就...
  7. 02:07:168 (1) - 试试放个3/4在这里 好像现在的好点
  8. 02:17:284 (1,2,3) - 叠的不科学, 你test看看需不需要手动 没懂
  9. 02:20:424 (8,1) - 好
  10. 03:34:377 (2) - 这样舒服一点 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820656
  11. 03:50:249 (6,1) - 这是什么! 用个滑条接在03:50:075 (5) - 吧 233 改了
  12. 03:55:133 (6) - 不好看
Yukari's Theory

  1. 00:02:982 (2) - blanket没摆好 好像还行
  2. 00:58:796 (4) - 这个往右一点 k
  3. 00:59:493 (5) - 然后这个节奏有点不对, 你把reverse去了 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/820659 k
  4. 01:07:866 (3) - blanket没摆好 其实右边的flow还好一点 k
  5. 04:40:656 (1,2) - blanket
应该还行


hoLysoup wrote:

hihi~

[Yukari]
01:47:633 (3) - NC? k
01:49:726 (1,2) - and then switch NC here? 好像没必要
04:08:563 (2) - slider end finish? added
04:46:935 (1) - add strong beat here? or maybe drum sound k
that's all ~

[Luka] all fixed except some NCs
00:08:563 (5) - 這要不往上彎？
00:55:831 (4,5) - 會不會太下面了一點？ 圈圈有點被遮住
01:04:377 (4) - 這個好像.. off timing, 跟背景音樂聽起來有差距. 我也不知道該怎麼修, 再多加紅線？ offset问题，我调了一下应该没问题了
01:06:121 (5) - NC?
01:12:924 (5,6,7) - 雖然我試玩的時候沒有miss, 但是這個擺法有點confusing?
01:50:424 (3) - NC?
02:12:749 (5) - NC? combo有點太長了
03:05:772 (4,5) - (5)不要疊在(4)上面？ like here: 03:07:168 (7,8)
03:26:703 (7) - NC?
03:50:249 (6,1) - mmm.. spacing調整一下？
04:50:424 (1) - 背景音樂很強大　加個重音吧？　或是鼓聲
05:19:185 (2,3,4) - spacing再更多一點？　讓慢下來的節奏更明顯
恩就這樣 :>

difficulty spread的差距會不會太大了一些？　easy的難度過於簡單, 雖然中間還有一個diff
可以m4m嗎？可以的話謝啦～
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/103094

好歌, 加油加油!!

jogfi2002 wrote:

[General]

无。


[Yukari's Theory]

感觉这个难度是只想在白线上下NOTE？

00:52:517 (4) - 弄成弯的可能比较好看？直的应该也OK就不改啦~
00:59:493 (5) - 移到284,92 现在这里也还行
01:06:470 (2,3) - 包好，或者把NOTE往右上挪一下
01:12:052 (1) - 换成一个1/4 slider
01:37:866 (4) - 弄成弯的可能比较好看？
02:31:761 (1) - spinner离上一个NOTE太近，建议放在红线上开始，也更合节奏 ok
02:56:005 (2) - 缩短为1/4的slider
02:57:051 - 如果你有考虑在白线之外的地方上NOTE，这里可以加一个（在上一条修改了的前提下）
05:07:865 (3,4) - 有一点点难看
05:16:935 (1) - 这个spinner实在是有点nazi，太长而且不舒服 没办法，这里变奏，全下note太难，slider的话end会unstack，干脆就这样了


[Luka's Theory] 改了一些0.0大概是节奏上的习惯不同我就不进行大调了不好意思TAT。依然感谢

这个应该是HARD难度？
AR改成7好像比较舒服。

00:02:284 (2,3) - 建议改成这样：


00:05:424 (5,6) - 建议改成这样：


00:06:819 (1,2) - 这里我觉得跟人声会更好
00:16:586 (1) - 缩短slider，在白线结束更自然，后面类似的排列同感（打的时候感觉不太顺）
00:46:935 (2) - 这个地方也是改成2note+1slider感觉比较顺
00:55:831 (4,5) - 有点出界了
01:03:331 (2) - 换成3个NOTE如何？
01:14:145 (1) - 同00:16:586 (1)
02:09:261 (4,5,6) - 没叠好，看间距貌似是故意这么放的？
02:12:575 (4) - 删掉
02:17:284 (1,2,3) - 建议改成这样：


02:18:330 (3) - 同00:16:586 (1)
02:19:028 (4,5) - 如果上面那条改了，这里就合成一个slider吧
02:32:284 (1) - 不在10那里开始么- -
02:56:354 (5,6) - 合成一个slider
03:07:168 (7) - 同00:16:586 (1)
03:41:703 (1) - ^
03:44:144 (6,7) - 有点难看
04:09:784 (1) - 这个倒是可以在长白线上开始
04:53:214 (1,2,3,4,5) - 或者可以考虑下这样：（现在这个节奏，前面的折返slider有点怪，后面的单点没问题）



就这么多吧~

Azure wrote:

大哥にゃ

[General]
IA是屬於Vocaloid3系列的tags記得加個3~ fixed

[Yukari's Theory]
  1. 00:21:121 Spinner 從00:20:598 - 00:23:912結束 感觉现在这里好一些
  2. 01:05:773 (1) 去whistle +finish 音效全改了
  3. 01:28:098 (1) ^
  4. 01:49:726 (1) -NC 01:50:424 (2) +NC k
  5. 02:01:586 (1) 去whistle +finish
  6. 02:04:377 (4) ^ 相反
  7. 02:43:447 (1) 去whistle +finish
  8. 02:54:610 (1) ^
  9. 03:16:935 (1) ^
  10. 03:27:400 -NC 03:28:098 (2) +NC k
[Luka's Theory] All fixed Thanks so much
  1. 02:12:226 +note (因為shi-awase是連在一起的 -/-)
  2. 02:29:493 (6) 再折返一次? (慢著)
  3. 02:48:505 +note (vocal..)
  4. 03:15:540 (8) 拉長到 03:16:063 結束
  5. 03:18:156 +note?
  6. 04:41:703 (2,3) http://puu.sh/3ndDe.jpg
  7. 04:44:144 (9) http://puu.sh/3ndFi.jpg
  8. 04:48:330 (4) http://puu.sh/3ndIc.jpg
大哥可不可以求mutualにゃ。
Last edited by Megurine Luka , edited 2 times in total.
Megurine Luka
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Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Megurine Luka

KevinKang wrote:

; ;我觉的offest是1552（总觉的要比原来那个提前一点）
不管怎么说喜欢这首歌._.
确实=-=不过我直接-30了1557听上去应该差不多
hoLysoup
1,846 posts
Joined September 2009
hoLysoup
( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ☆
GIDZ
1,002 posts
Joined January 2013
GIDZ
Hi~ from modding queue that only accepts 3mins :P Oh well, I already modded 3 of ur maps, so from experience, I doubt there would be any problems. ANYWAYS~

General:
~Drums audio and increase volume to 50% for Kiai mode to make it more effective?

Yukari's Theory:
~03:39:231 (1) - Finish on slider head?
~04:37:835 (3) - Curve it the other way for cursor flow for next note? --> http://puu.sh/3CC9P.jpg
~05:07:835 (3) - Move this to the left a bit to align the notes and make game play flow better.Move to X:148 Y:188?
~The map is too simple for me to spot anymore suggestions ><

Luka's theory:
~01:19:347 (5) - Start NC here instead?
~01:50:045 (2) - Move this down a bit for cursor flow.
~02:29:463 (1) - NC here? Since there is an extra reverse arrow.
~03:35:393 (4) - NC for rhythm change.
~04:43:417 (1) - NC here? I think that combo is too long and not consistent with others.

Nicely mapped as always ^^ Good luck!
Papysh
259 posts
Joined February 2013
Papysh
Hi, my really late mod from my queue~ o3o
'
Yukari's theory:
00:02:952 (2) - i would like to see that slider a bit moved maybe 3 grids to the right should fix


00:50:394 (3,4) - maybe something like that
SPOILER
SPOILER


01:27:370 (1,2,1,2) - Please, Move that a bit down 01:28:766 (2) - so this can look like
SPOILER
And dont forget to move that down too 01:30:859 (1,2) - because it may be coliding to previous sliders ; p


05:16:905 (1) - Shouldnt that be snapped to the white tick?


01:47:603 (1,2,3,4) - maybe that
SPOILER


02:49:696 (1) - a bit right so it can better look o3o


02:51:091 (2) - a bit up so it can look better : P


03:58:766 (3) - I know that makes no difference in anything but i would like to make that slider look like that
SPOILER
than that
SPOILER
(the hole inside XD)


04:41:324 (2) - maybe better blanket : P


I dont see other things wrong o3o







Luka's theory
That diff look really good for me so there will be only few suggestions
01:31:556 (2) - Maybe that
SPOILER
But you wont like it i guess

01:44:812 (3) - maybe ctrl + g will be better


02:58:417 (4) - maybe a bit down


I cant noptice any other mistakes even after the last break o3o GJ
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