Just play for fun not for compete. If you suck , try a different mode. Also don't take this game too seriously. Its just a game after all
including youSaint wrote:
REMEMBER: everyone who is better than you cheats
SHOTS FIREDKanye West wrote:
including youSaint wrote:
REMEMBER: everyone who is better than you cheats
biggest bullshit I have heard in quite a while.Wishy wrote:
osu! is not competitive therefore you shouldn't get mad about it.
Start by lowering your standard for "easy maps".Aqo wrote:
But chipscape is hard as fuck man
I actually told myself I'll stop playing hard stuff and play some easy maps for once to try to get some FCs but I can't even FC easy maps nomod this sucks so much. I don't want to wait 2 years...
All of the "take a break" suggestions are not helping guys. I already tried this. I'm back from a week break right now (for osu!standard that is) and just more depressed than ever.
Gonna try a mix between what Millhiore and what Shiro said, even that they're kinda opposites. This game is really... frustrating.
I've learnt to control my anger thanks to games and Aikido. If anything, I'd say yes, get angry at games, so you can learn not to get angry when it actually matters. There was a research that found that gamers have a much lower reaction time in general and are capable of doing things (with their hands, or remembering information) people who don't play games can't.MMzz wrote:
Stop playing? If it is effecting your health its not worth it. Same thing could be said about getting angry at games in general. Its all unnessecary stress.
They are not. Millhiore said to play the songs fully without retrying every time you get a miss (and I do that) and I said to play things you know are too hard for you.Aqo wrote:
Gonna try a mix between what Millhiore and what Shiro said, even that they're kinda opposites.
It's frustrating because you care.Aqo wrote:
This game is really... frustrating.
Holy hell, where are your standards at?! By taking one look at the map you just did, I've concluded that you really need to stop being so hard on yourself! You've already made a name for yourself - you're at the point where Insane maps don't make you break a sweat. At this point you really need to try to stop demanding improvements from yourself at every corner. Just play the game for the music, ignoring performance altogether, and your lighter mind will eventually bring you the results you've desired. People often forget that this game has tons and tons of great music and that's it's easy to get lost in this sea of it.Aqo wrote:
I actually told myself I'll stop playing hard stuff and play some easy maps for once to try to get some FCs but I can't even FC easy maps nomod this sucks so much.
This is something really important for you to keep in mind. You're only going to feel like s--- if you demand an S(S) from you every time you play a given map, even if you have pulled it off before. Sometimes we just don't have good days - you just need to live with it.Omgfzor wrote:
Oh, and don't go into a song EXPECTING some kind of result, because if you can't deliver these results, then you're going to feel frustrated
Being a perfectionist will not help. At all. When you're petty with mistakes you just make yourself feel much worse over one mistake and will be a source of much stress.MillhioreF wrote:
What helped me personally was playing through to the end every single time, no matter how stupid the mistake was (the retry button is the spawn of hate, don't press that thing)
But most importantly, reread RaneFire's post, especially what's been bolded. When you feel like a failure for not FCing a song you're putting far too much weight on a single mistake. This ridiculously stringent zero-tolerance approach is one way you may be putting too much importance on this game. As RaneFire said, too much concern over small things in this game is leaving you very frustrated.RaneFire wrote:
You don't fight depression by doing something that makes you depressed.
I'd just take a break from the game, re-assess other things life, and come back later with a different outlook on osu!
Placing too much importance on the game, and not other things, can lead to depression.
You will also be surprised to know just how many highly skilled gamers get depressed. It's obsession.
Getting as good as cookiezi will not solve it. Being human nature, you will always desire more, and never be satisfied.
Hard truth, but you will realise that the source of your depression is not the game, it's being concerned about it so much.
As for spectating, I can agree this helps. Supporting one another is something that defines our lives.
nah i'm a horrible playerKanye West wrote:
including youSaint wrote:
REMEMBER: everyone who is better than you cheats
While your post seems optimistic, it isn't for everyone. I am that chart topper. I am that person who instantly retries if I get a miss or a 50. I do obsess over that one little mistake. But I play until I fix it without getting frustrated. I absolutely can't play with the flashy skins or backgrounds or fancy frills that go with it. I almost never keep going if I miss, unless I just want to keep myself familiar with the whole song. But I am a hidden hard rock player. That is what I have to do to be good. I have more plays on single maps in a single sitting than you do period. No offense, but if you only have 262 total plays in your short time here, then I don't think you can give much advice to someone like aqo with 100x as many plays as you. The only advice you can offer is to play the game as if you are brand new to it again and try to re-discover the game again.AngelG_No55 wrote:
Holy hell, where are your standards at?! By taking one look at the map you just did, I've concluded that you really need to stop being so hard on yourself! You've already made a name for yourself - you're at the point where Insane maps don't make you break a sweat. At this point you really need to try to stop demanding improvements from yourself at every corner. Just play the game for the music, ignoring performance altogether, and your lighter mind will eventually bring you the results you've desired. People often forget that this game has tons and tons of great music and that's it's easy to get lost in this sea of it.Aqo wrote:
I actually told myself I'll stop playing hard stuff and play some easy maps for once to try to get some FCs but I can't even FC easy maps nomod this sucks so much.This is something really important for you to keep in mind. You're only going to feel like s--- if you demand an S(S) from you every time you play a given map, even if you have pulled it off before. Sometimes we just don't have good days - you just need to live with it.Omgfzor wrote:
Oh, and don't go into a song EXPECTING some kind of result, because if you can't deliver these results, then you're going to feel frustratedBeing a perfectionist will not help. At all. When you're petty with mistakes you just make yourself feel much worse over one mistake and will be a source of much stress.MillhioreF wrote:
What helped me personally was playing through to the end every single time, no matter how stupid the mistake was (the retry button is the spawn of hate, don't press that thing)
So don't! Keep playing even after your combo broke, or if playing multi, keep going even after you failed!But most importantly, reread RaneFire's post, especially what's been bolded. When you feel like a failure for not FCing a song you're putting far too much weight on a single mistake. This ridiculously stringent zero-tolerance approach is one way you may be putting too much importance on this game. As RaneFire said, too much concern over small things in this game is leaving you very frustrated.RaneFire wrote:
You don't fight depression by doing something that makes you depressed.
I'd just take a break from the game, re-assess other things life, and come back later with a different outlook on osu!
Placing too much importance on the game, and not other things, can lead to depression.
You will also be surprised to know just how many highly skilled gamers get depressed. It's obsession.
Getting as good as cookiezi will not solve it. Being human nature, you will always desire more, and never be satisfied.
Hard truth, but you will realise that the source of your depression is not the game, it's being concerned about it so much.
As for spectating, I can agree this helps. Supporting one another is something that defines our lives.
Although I only have about 260 plays under my belt (having gone on a bit of an hiatus from this game), I still can't do Insane maps at all. Moreover, I've never scored a single SS. But does that frustrate me? No. Because I play the game for the music and for meeting new people. Hell, I even play with fancy skins because I don't give two bleeps about being thrown off by them. I just want to have a good time, not be a chart-topper or anything. At the saem time, I don't stop anything mid-song; I just keep going and going regardless of performance. Only failing a song is able to stop me (and if I were to use No-Fail, not even that).
EDIT: You should really change your avatar. Crudely making it cartoonishly dead speaks volumes over how much importance you're putting over a single game.
osu! is not a competitive game, Aqo is, from what I know about him, a gamer who is usually serious about highly competitive games, and it is ok to get mad while failing at them, but osu! is not competitive at all, therefore etc.Tanzklaue wrote:
biggest bullshit I have heard in quite a while.Wishy wrote:
osu! is not competitive therefore you shouldn't get mad about it.
play for fun, don't frustrate you by retrying something over and over again, don't compare yourself too much against better players.
osu! IS competitive. Its just way easier to give up on it than any other game, due to its incredibly high skill ceiling. People would rather call the game "casual" than admit the game is too good for them. Aqo seems like the intelligent sort, so he noticed the uniqueness of osu! as a learning experience, and is taking it very seriously (just like thelewa did).Wishy wrote:
osu! is not a competitive game, Aqo is, from what I know about him, a gamer who is usually serious about highly competitive games, and it is ok to get mad while failing at them, but osu! is not competitive at all, therefore etc.
If you think osu! is competitive then your knowledge about games is less than a joke.
It's single player, you don't play against anyone and everyone else might aswell quit the game and nothing's gonna change. The "top" level you can reach is extremely high, this applies to pretty much any game tho, and competitive games have people playing pretty much 12hs+ a day and playing against each other all the time, while here the best player by far is Cookiezi, who doesn't even play that much at all since idk 2 years ago. There are almost none (maybe there are none) players who play osu! in an absolute serious manner. There is no competitive scene, and again it is in the end a single player game. You may tell yourself "yeh I'm a super serious player!!!!" yet you are no more than a casual compared to any serious player on any game.Purple wrote:
osu! IS competitive. Its just way easier to give up on it than any other game, due to its incredibly high skill ceiling. People would rather call the game "casual" than admit the game is too good for them. Aqo seems like the intelligent sort, so he noticed the uniqueness of osu! as a learning experience, and is taking it very seriously (just like thelewa did).Wishy wrote:
osu! is not a competitive game, Aqo is, from what I know about him, a gamer who is usually serious about highly competitive games, and it is ok to get mad while failing at them, but osu! is not competitive at all, therefore etc.
If you think osu! is competitive then your knowledge about games is less than a joke.
there are competitions in like, everything. osu is really competitive, it even gives you scoreboards to compete with others.Wishy wrote:
If you think osu! is competitive then your knowledge about games is less than a joke.
Since when does a game/sport need to be real time for it to be competitive? And since when does a game need a "competitive scene" to be competitive? By "competitive scene" I assume you mean money prizes, media attention and such. Competitive just means work hard to beat others, which is exactly what many high-level players do in this game. Maybe you should watch what kind of language you use. In fact, I'd say the real-time aspects of any videogame makes it less competitive, because it allows luck to come into place. "Oh geez, looks like rrtyui sneezed/lagged! South Korean team wins the championship!!". Sure it'd be nice if osu! could earn you money, but that's never going to happen. Doesn't mean its not competitive though.Wishy wrote:
It's single player, you don't play against anyone and everyone else might aswell quit the game and nothing's gonna change. The "top" level you can reach is extremely high, this applies to pretty much any game tho, and competitive games have people playing pretty much 12hs+ a day and playing against each other all the time, while here the best player by far is Cookiezi, who doesn't even play that much at all since idk 2 years ago. There are almost none (maybe there are none) players who play osu! in an absolute serious manner. There is no competitive scene, and again it is in the end a single player game. You may tell yourself "yeh I'm a super serious player!!!!" yet you are no more than a casual compared to any serious player on any game.
Cookiezi is playing this game casually/for fun and is by far the best, that is only possible on a community where there are no competitive players at all. Even if you like to convince yourself that you ARE seriously competitive, you are not, being a serious competitive player means a lot more than "wanting to be the best".
IMO games shouldn't be classified as "casual" and "non-casual", since it's really the player who decides whether they're playing a game casually or not. Not the game.Purple wrote:
The game isn't casual either; a "casual" game is a game directed/marketed for mass appeal. If you think osu! is a "mass appealing" game then, well, once again you need to revise the language you use. If you really think that's not what casual is, then go ahead and give me a definition - I wanna read it.
so true, what's the point if you are not entertaining?JAKACHAN wrote:
If you are depressed over a game there is an easy way to stop it.
Quit
If you can't have fun playing a GAME then you should quit. This is why I rarely play for more than 10 minutes anymore because I play until I get bored of it which doesn't take long nowadays.
i end up failing up more when people spec, idk, i'm not even nervous. koromo is a curse.Aqo wrote:
The latter part actually makes a lot of sense Shiro, it kinda goes against what I've been wanting to do lately but I guess there's no choice.
As for spectators... doesn't work. I learned to be completely indifferent to random specs. Two people came to spec me today and I completely ignored their existence since they didn't write anything :v
also what if the thing you suck at is the reason u are depressed? e.g. i can't fuking do fast counter clock clockwise squares for my life.kriers wrote:
If you can't improve at the things you've practiced the most in osu!, try improving at an aspect you totally suck at and start over.
The end result of practicing different aspects of this game can take you really far.