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val0108's [My Art] on Scarlet Rose is obviously the hardest map ever
even tom's diffcalc agrees
even tom's diffcalc agrees
Chocobo, while really hard, has been SS'd multiple times. Wouldn't be close to one of the hardest.Awoken- wrote:
TAG4 maps and Chocobo (Gold)?
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High TemplarRLC wrote:
val0108's [My Art] on Scarlet Rose is obviously the hardest map ever
even tom's diffcalc agrees
On the normal version of the calc that is locked at difficulty 9000, all of those are paired. But on the version without the limiter, lewatuuba wins with an outstanding difficulty level that cuts through skies with the power of a thousand suns.GoldenWolf wrote:
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High Templar
Lewa is a sexy monster, you know this.
i bet a lot more people can pass most of the maps posted here than people who can pass freedom dive
there we have it
there we have it
scarlet rose and big black O_O 
Top-tip: ctrl+c copies difficulty info into your clipboard. And this is not capped by anything, only the GUI display is. (Despite all diffs over 9000 getting displayed the same way they are still sorted correctly.)Aqo wrote:
On the normal version of the calc that is locked at difficulty 9000, all of those are paired. But on the version without the limiter, lewatuuba wins with an outstanding difficulty level that cuts through skies with the power of a thousand suns.GoldenWolf wrote:
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High Templar
Lewa is a sexy monster, you know this.
8441able, definitely
because snapping is relatively easy and keeping a consistent flow at superhigh pace is just way harder
once you're out, you're out - pattern and game
*poofs*
because snapping is relatively easy and keeping a consistent flow at superhigh pace is just way harder
once you're out, you're out - pattern and game
*poofs*
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?Feel The Wind wrote:
scarlet rose and big black O_O
It seems like there's a correlation between when people first discover BPM sorting and between when they discover this thread.jesus1412 wrote:
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?
scarlet rose hard
If you can singletap 320 bpm, it's not hard. If you can't, it's hard.jesus1412 wrote:
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?Feel The Wind wrote:
scarlet rose and big black O_O
alternate master race
Even by alternating it's not that hard. I feel it's the easiest one of all those high BPM single tap maps.
Except for the last part there it gets harder.
Except for the last part there it gets harder.
Yay for having zero coordination!Wishy wrote:
Even by alternating it's not that hard.
It's like streaming low BPM. 
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(passing scarlet rose: relatively easy, heck, even I nearly did that.
doing it with an acceptable accuracy: hard.
fcing it (bonus points for good acc): have fun, it will take you a while.
doing it with an acceptable accuracy: hard.
fcing it (bonus points for good acc): have fun, it will take you a while.
nearly everyone i know that can alternate gets 95% acc every run
Wishy wrote:
Even by alternating it's not that hard. I feel it's the easiest one of all those high BPM single tap maps.
Except for the last part there it gets harder.
Yeah it's easy to have 97-98% up until the ending part. Usually kills me to 95-96%.
If we're comparing the amount of S/SS's on the maps, Cry For Eternity may be one, since White Wolf and Cookiezi were the only people to achieve an S for the map.
Streams that require finger dexterity, smaller hit circles require high cursor accuracy, and the song itself is long enough (lasting around 8 minutes).
One of the hardest songs to S.
Streams that require finger dexterity, smaller hit circles require high cursor accuracy, and the song itself is long enough (lasting around 8 minutes).
One of the hardest songs to S.
considering when they fc'd them, no. Far from the hardest beatmaps.AkoSuminoe wrote:
If we're comparing the amount of S/SS's on the maps, Cry For Eternity may be one, since White Wolf and Cookiezi were the only people to achieve an S for the map.
Streams that require finger dexterity, smaller hit circles require high cursor accuracy, and the song itself is long enough (lasting around 8 minutes).
One of the hardest songs to S.
Literally if we don't include the TAG4 maps, and regardless of when/how many players FC'ed it, 4d is the hardest in my opinion. Cookiezi was the only person to FC it without a difficulty reduction mod, where else everyone else below him who FCed mostly used a Half Time mod.
You can't deny the fact that it is so stamina draining.
You can't deny the fact that it is so stamina draining.
It's actually a lot harder to aim those streams at the end than to keep your stamina up to par.
Trust me on this one. ;_;
Trust me on this one. ;_;
exactly. streaming 222bpm continuously isn't that hard once you hit that level, which is about most of top 1000 or 500 in pp i bet. it's the spacing of the streams that fails almost everyone
Any beatmap with big spaced 200+ streams and fast start patterns is a hard for anyone :3
True... The stream spacing is wider in the last section of 4d when you have to literally accelerate the speed of your cursor[AirCoN] wrote:
exactly. streaming 222bpm continuously isn't that hard once you hit that level, which is about most of top 1000 or 500 in pp i bet. it's the spacing of the streams that fails almost everyone
i find the streams that twist and sharp bends to be harder than those spaced ones
Looked thought most of the thread, but I'm kinda surprised no one mentioned Savage Garden - I Want You
This is candidate one of the hardest maps, in my opinion. (which just a handful of full combo's)
Another one worth mentioning is a Kirby Mix, being quite old still only has 1 FC.
Basshunter - Ievan Polkka Trance Remix
This is candidate one of the hardest maps, in my opinion. (which just a handful of full combo's)
Another one worth mentioning is a Kirby Mix, being quite old still only has 1 FC.
Basshunter - Ievan Polkka Trance Remix
1- pp is shit.[AirCoN] wrote:
exactly. streaming 222bpm continuously isn't that hard once you hit that level, which is about most of top 1000 or 500 in pp i bet. it's the spacing of the streams that fails almost everyone
2- Most people can't stream 222 BPM.
3- Even between those who can, most have not enough stamina to do it through the whole map.
4- Even between those who can endure that intensive streaming, most can't follow those streams properly.
That's how it is. :p
Shadow:
Both those maps are very old and use a style that most people now don't really play at all (old maps = few plays too). I Want You = very low AR and non-sense jumps, Ievan Polkka is nicely mapped yet again it uses a low AR (was it 7?). That Kirby's map in fact has no FC, White Wolf got a slider break iirc. They are all old scores anyways I'm quite sure top players can FC that map if they practice it long enough, which is not possible on maps like Freedom Dive, Kokou no Sousei or Atama (imo). Nevertheless yeah they are very hard ones.
hard to fc doesn't necessarily mean it's hard overall
if the map is easy to pass, but hard to fc, then it means that the difficultysettings are ridiculously low (AngeHoney does that often). or that there are some nasty patterns that are hard to fc, in which this statement is true.buny wrote:
hard to fc doesn't necessarily mean it's hard overall
Both those maps have pretty much some nasty patterns that are just very hard to hit even while the rest of the map is quite doable.
So why is Lemon Tree seen as such a hard map? It doesn't seem all that hard. Granted, I probably couldn't pass it, but it doesn't seem as "impossible" as people make it out to be.
My vote for hardest map still goes out to awp's extra Impossibly Intense diff in Shotgun Symphony. Someone finally SS'd it a month ago with EZ mod.
My vote for hardest map still goes out to awp's extra Impossibly Intense diff in Shotgun Symphony. Someone finally SS'd it a month ago with EZ mod.
they're talking about the unranked lemon tree
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57878# I guess this is the reupload of the map
they're not even playable.. why mention them.