My god, all these tries. But finally I'm satisfied with the Oni. Tell me how far the Muzu is done. Else I can continue to map it and finish it really soon this time.
Download: http://puu.sh/4TqaH.zip

Once again, happy birthday and sorry that we didn't managed it at your date to rank it. orz
Still, I hope you had a nice party.

Just a suggestion

How about adding a kiai flash 01:24:609 - ?
and here 02:46:560 -

o:

Videogame (English)
LOLL. Need fix this plzz

The engrish is too strong

xD anyway pretty sure it's right

getting an error when osu is trying to extract this :<

Dangaard wrote:

getting an error when osu is trying to extract this :<

yeah, i am too. warning warning this beatmap has moved to the failed folder.

aw shiz lol ok i will try to fix this, thanks for checking =v=

the issue appears to be fixed now.

I thought this is ranked already.. o_O

Will come back here tomorrow.

M4M before you guys do something lol



good map you two

irre can i snake you cause i really feel like nuking approving the standard diffs of this map

fight fight

Ono is here. Ono will finish.
(Is this ML here?)

Call me back for rank then.

jonathan stealer i het u

im da snake

Black is suggestion
Blue is highly recommended
Red is unrankable

[General]
taiko oni is missing "flash" in tags, please add it to keep tags consistent
for artist instead of using "3L, maria♂polo" i think its better to use "3L・maria♂polo", the "・" is a special character similar to "♂" and was used on the official title of this track

[Normal]
00:30:463 (3) - position it like this? 01:15:830 (1,2) - not perfectly parallel, blame my OCD
02:14:366 (1) - probably can fix the blanket here to look nicer with 02:16:195 (2)
03:17:659 (4,2) - would be cool if you can make these two have the same shape for nice reflection

[meii's Hard]
01:22:780 (4) - forgot clap here
01:48:025 (2) - i would actually use a jump here considering how the finish effect comes in here after the vocal hold
02:28:817 (8) - use a 1/4 repeat slider? there are some drum rolls in the music which warrants that
03:09:426 (1) - sv change is glitched here, the slider is snapped to 03:09:426 but the green line is snapped to 03:09:427; manually snap the green line to get the sv working properly
03:20:952 (6) - add a finish here?

[Nuke]
01:09:975 (5) - based on your NC pattern NC should be here instead of 01:08:512 (1)
02:00:646 (4) - stack this on 01:59:731 (1)? or move it more left to avoid the overlap
02:31:926 (5) - same as 01:09:975 (5)
02:58:268 (1) - peppy might get mad, im not sure

3 months ago jonathanlfj wrote:

☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢-Warning-☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢

my intention has not yet changed.

Kuria wrote:

M4M before you guys do something lol

from AIBAT

AIBat v3.1 wrote:

[Skin/SB]

SB Elements Not .png
nuke\black.jpg
nuke\blank.jpg

Should be ok
[All .osu Files]

Combo Colours
Inconsistency in combo colours:

- [Lunatic] :
Combo1 : 255,51,51
Combo2 : 0,152,225
Combo3 : 255,128,64
Combo4 : 155,126,194

- [meiikyuu's Hard] :
Combo1 : 255,51,51
Combo2 : 0,152,225
Combo3 : 255,128,64
Combo4 : 155,126,194

- [Normal] :
Combo1 : 255,51,51
Combo2 : 0,152,225
Combo3 : 255,128,64
Combo4 : 155,126,194

- [Ono's Taiko Muzukashii] :

- [Ono's Taiko Oni] :

General and Metadata

Inconsistency in EpilepsyWarning:
- [Lunatic] : 1
- [meiikyuu's Hard] : 1
- [Normal] : 1
- [Ono's Taiko Muzukashii] :
- [Ono's Taiko Oni] :

Inconsistency in Tags:
- [Lunatic] : reiuji utsuho sun worship of gnosis nuclear fusion dj command njk record meiikyuu eurobeat flash onosakihito
- [meiikyuu's Hard] : reiuji utsuho sun worship of gnosis nuclear fusion dj command njk record meiikyuu eurobeat flash onosakihito
- [Normal] : reiuji utsuho sun worship of gnosis nuclear fusion dj command njk record meiikyuu eurobeat flash onosakihito
- [Ono's Taiko Muzukashii] : reiuji utsuho sun worship of gnosis nuclear fusion dj command njk record meiikyuu eurobeat onosakihito
- [Ono's Taiko Oni] : reiuji utsuho sun worship of gnosis nuclear fusion dj command njk record meiikyuu eurobeat onosakihito

Kiai
Inconsistency in Kiai Times:

- [Lunatic] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:12:902, ends on 01:36:316
Kiai #2: Starts on 02:34:854, ends on 02:58:268

- [meiikyuu's Hard] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:12:903, ends on 01:36:317
Kiai #2: Starts on 02:34:854, ends on 02:58:269

- [Normal] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:12:903, ends on 01:36:317
Kiai #2: Starts on 02:34:854, ends on 02:58:269

- [Ono's Taiko Muzukashii] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:12:903, ends on 01:48:025
Kiai #2: Starts on 02:34:853, ends on 03:09:975

- [Ono's Taiko Oni] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:12:902, ends on 01:48:024
Kiai #2: Starts on 02:34:853, ends on 03:09:975

Tags
- Consider adding "Ono" to all of your tags

[Ono's Taiko Muzukashii]

Audio Lead-In
There is only 1195 ms of audio lead-in, which is less than the minimum of 2000 ms.

Breaks
You need a break before 02:16:195.

Snapping
00:51:318 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:51:501 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:51:684 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:51:867 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:52:050 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:53:879 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:54:062 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:54:245 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:54:428 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:54:611 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:54:794 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
00:54:977 (1) - Unsnapped circle.

[Ono's Taiko Oni]

Audio Lead-In
There is only 1195 ms of audio lead-in, which is less than the minimum of 2000 ms.

Breaks
You need a break before 02:16:195.

from me

Normal:

1. 00:28:999 (1) - dunno why but i think use 1/4 repeat here is a bit hard to normal, why not make it 1/2 like 00:27:537 (2,3) - ? Fixed
2. 00:27:537 (2,3,1,2) - something like this for above, but maybe you can do it vice versa for rhythm consistency Fixed?
3. 00:41:804 - note here? because you do add it on 00:47:659 (2) - hmm there is no drum here unlike the later part
4. 00:59:366 (2) - just my preference about the patternflow, but i think it's better if place this on the right side Fixed
5. 01:02:110 (2,3) - can't really feel the flow here, perhaps you're positioning the 01:02:110 (2) - a bit up? should be fine i guess xD
6. 02:00:830 (2,3) - fix the blanked Fixed
7. 02:11:439 (1) - why you make this straight slider? it kinda ruins the flow the what it was directed, would prefer using curved instead for this lol tried to make it symmetrical with (2)

meikyuu's Hard:

1. 00:20:037 (6) - new combo here? Fixed
2. 00:25:342 (3,4,5) - kinda hard to put the note between slider stream like this for hard, why not make it just with the sliders instead? remove 00:25:615 (4) - , move 00:25:707 (5) - to that (4) and then make it's tail longer to 00:25:890 - ? i'll ask meii
3. 00:50:952 (5) - new combo keep
4. 00:53:878 (6) - new combo keep
5. 00:56:805 (4) - same as above ?
6. sometimes i saw the combo last for 1/1 but sometimes 1/2. like 00:52:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - and 00:58:452 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - , why not make them all 1/2 or 1/1 instead? i will play around with this
7. 02:09:976 (4) - just my opinion, why not use slider instead a note for this spot? It's a bit makes sense though if you wanna make some short break 02:10:158 - Fixed
8. 02:22:415 (6,7,8) - wanna tell the same for this but i guess it doesn't really matter because we're already in the middle of the map and ppl are warmed up already hm yeah lol
9. 02:25:158 (4,5) - blanket? it'll be ok

Lunatic:

1. 00:27:536 (1,2,3) - haha actually i'm prefer you make it 5 note stream for this like 00:26:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - , along with other similar triplet with reverse slider pattern, i feel it's match the song beat the most XD Fixed in a different way. i wanted to keep this type of rhythm bc theres a hold in the synth
2. 00:33:390 (1,2,3) - something like this too, i prefer you make it 5 note stream instead because the beat match the music same as above
3. 00:33:390 (1,2,3) - no notes for this spot? you can form a jump between 00:40:707 (1,2,3,4) - though, here, like 00:47:292 (2,3,4,5) - Fixed
4. 00:56:621 (5,6) - i'm not really feel the flow here, make the 00:56:804 (6) - rotated clockwise a bit? i think it's ok
5. 01:05:951 (6,7) - ugh, don't like how the jumps played here, why not make the 01:05:951 (6,7) - stacked on the headslider instead tail? Q_Q i kinda wanted to emphasize the "jump" in the vocals =v=
6. 01:36:316 (1) - make it like this? http://puu.sh/5cI4T.jpg , stacked it with 01:34:853 (4) - head, much better flow imo yea this is a great idea actually but i felt the deeper angle increased the intensity of this part more
7. 02:18:756 (6) - reverse this slider? i think the flow works better it's started from up instead down, knowing that the previous flow plays from down to up 02:18:208 (4,5) - kept this, another vocal tone thing i tried to capture orz xD
8. 02:46:378 (11,12,1) - Q_______Q well i think it's ok if you intended to make a symmetric pattern between 02:46:013 (8,9,10,11,12) - but i still don't like how this part played orz xD

good map you two

jonathanlfj wrote:

im da snake

Black is suggestion
Blue is highly recommended
Red is unrankable

[General]
taiko oni is missing "flash" in tags, please add it to keep tags consistent Fixed
for artist instead of using "3L, maria♂polo" i think its better to use "3L・maria♂polo", the "・" is a special character similar to "♂" and was used on the official title of this track do you have any proof lol i was thinking of putting DJ Command ft. asdfdsf for the artist but idk

[Normal]
00:30:463 (3) - position it like this? Fixed in another way

SPOILER

01:15:830 (1,2) - not perfectly parallel, blame my OCD Fixed
02:14:366 (1) - probably can fix the blanket here to look nicer with 02:16:195 (2) Fixed
03:17:659 (4,2) - would be cool if you can make these two have the same shape for nice reflection Fixed but i had to angle the new one up more

[meii's Hard]
01:22:780 (4) - forgot clap here Fixed
01:48:025 (2) - i would actually use a jump here considering how the finish effect comes in here after the vocal hold increased spacing
02:28:817 (8) - use a 1/4 repeat slider? there are some drum rolls in the music which warrants that Fixed
03:09:426 (1) - sv change is glitched here, the slider is snapped to 03:09:426 but the green line is snapped to 03:09:427; manually snap the green line to get the sv working properly Fixed
03:20:952 (6) - add a finish here? Fixed

[Nuke]
01:09:975 (5) - based on your NC pattern NC should be here instead of 01:08:512 (1) it was consistent before? but i NC's this and the later one
02:00:646 (4) - stack this on 01:59:731 (1)? or move it more left to avoid the overlap Fixed
02:31:926 (5) - same as 01:09:975 (5) Fixed
02:58:268 (1) - peppy might get mad, im not sure hmph

3 months ago jonathanlfj wrote:

☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢-Warning-☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢☢

my intention has not yet changed. asjknfdscajnkf

Thanks kuria and jonny <333
i need to figure out this artist now

hmm i just searched up some japanese sources, most english sources uses commas to split it which is why im also not 100% certain
http://nijika.net/TEF2.html
http://www16.atwiki.jp/toho/pages/6071.html

let me actually download the cd and see what is written on the song info there

EDIT: ☢

Thank you 家你

i see what u did there
where is 铅笔??

铅笔在一个美丽的神话

Awesome Map.
I can only play CTB, but the map is very good in ctb, too.
I hope for a ranked version.
Good luck

no kds

[General]
- Change the artist as I suggested before?

I checked the taikos and I find it odd that muzukashii is slightly shorter than Oni?
Other than that they're fine

happy30 wrote:

no kds

[General]
- Change the artist as I suggested before?

I checked the taikos and I find it odd that muzukashii is slightly shorter than Oni?
Other than that they're fine

hey~!

For the artist, I decided to stick with the original album booklet:

thanks for the recheck

Essays I have to write are soon done. Though, I have to admit that I struggle in making the Muzu in a way I like. lol

wow

someday

eventually

nowday

Hi Ono.
Mod from online request.

[General]

1. You set HP7 in Oni,why not set OD6 ?OD5HP7 seems no difference with those players who can play this diff.I'd rather increase the difficulty by OD6↑ . HP6 OD6 or HP7 OD6 both fine. It's my suggestion,not a must.It's up to you :3
   
   
   
   [Ono's Taiko Oni]
   1. 00:25:341 - A suggestion here. d dd dd can also suit well...not a must to change.
   2. 00:18:573 - to 00:23:694 - of course k d k d k etc. suit the song.but it seems no fun here.why not user other patterns to let it more fun?(Suggestion also.)
   3. 00:27:719 (3) - k here suits well.And you use kkk in previous pattern.
   4. 00:28:725 (2,1) - change to dk here because a higher pitch sound.
   5. 00:30:280 (1) - how about k here?
   6. 00:32:109 (3) - ^
   7. 00:37:323 - add a d here? there exist a hit-sound.
   8. 01:18:573 (2) - delete this note? set a little break here give me a good feel.and the same at 01:30:280 (1) -
   9. 01:22:231 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - dddkkkd maybe better.(suggestion.)
   10. 01:23:694 (1) - D can be better.because lyric change from the next note.
   11. 01:41:804 (1,2,3,4,1) - here actually is k(1/4 and kkkkd(1/8),but that patten is unrankable.So I recommend you delete 01:41:804 (1,2,3,4) - .It will set a little break here and nothing unsuit the song.
   12. 01:42:902 - to 01:47:475 - those patterns ugly.please fix them.
   13. 01:59:274 - add a d here.
   14. ....what's that?the 2nd KIAI part?.....All right.All patterns rankable and almost suit the song well.But a funny and rankable map is what we need.Or you can tell me this map is a ddddk and ddddd kkkkk practice map.The first 1/2 part of the song looks just fine,and I would like to remap from 01:41:804 - to the end.
   Important:I strongly recommend you take a rest of mapping.I hope Taikosaki will come back soon ;w;
   
   [Ono's Taiko Muzukashii]
   1. 00:27:902 (1) - k here?
   2. 00:31:560 (1) - k ?Just suggestion.
   3. 00:37:414 (1) - ^
   4. 00:46:194 (3) - ^
   5. please fix those oxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo patterns.They are too long and boring .00:49:487 - to 01:01:194 - and 01:59:731 - to 02:23:146 -
   6. ......maybe you wanna try jirou style,but could you please think about that funny map is more important than a neat map but not fun at all.

I like this song though.But I would like to remap ,to let it become a funny ,rankable and neat map.
Also,all above are my suggestions.It's up to you.The set now is fine,nothing unrankable.

Good luck.

edit: no kds for this post if you think its unhelpful.
edit2:change 1/40 to 1/4

- Kagami Yuki - wrote:

SPOILER

Hi Ono.
Mod from online request.

[General]

1. You set HP7 in Oni,why not set OD6 ?OD5HP7 seems no difference with those players who can play this diff.I'd rather increase the difficulty by OD6↑ . HP6 OD6 or HP7 OD6 both fine. It's my suggestion,not a must.It's up to you :3 It's not all about the higher players. We have also lower guys. OD 5 suits here actually well if you ask me.
   
   
   
   [Ono's Taiko Oni]
   1. 00:25:341 - A suggestion here. d dd dd can also suit well...not a must to change. Possible, but if I use these notes I can't differe the parts from each other. It is importat to make clear where a new section starts, else the map is made in a too consecutive way.
   2. 00:18:573 - to 00:23:694 - of course k d k d k etc. suit the song.but it seems no fun here.why not user other patterns to let it more fun?(Suggestion also.) It's not all about making hard maps, - Kagami Yuki -. Also, if I would do so, the up coming part at 00:26:073 would be less emphasized. In Taiko it is important to differ parts from each other by having different patterns, SV changed or the common use of kiai. If we wouldn'T do so, a map can become monotonically - after all, we have only one achse (the x-achse) in Taiko game play so we have to vary sometimes when mapping.
   3. 00:27:719 (3) - k here suits well.And you use kkk in previous pattern. The idea is good, but you should have noticed that I'm using the abekobe style in this part. Additional to this, if I would add a kat I should have add a don at 00:33:573 .
   4. 00:28:725 (2,1) - change to dk here because a higher pitch sound. Abekobe style + alternate way dk kd kkkkk
   5. 00:30:280 (1) - how about k here? Not a bad idea, but it would interrupt the "don-beat" I'm using.
   6. 00:32:109 (3) - ^ Again, idea is good but ^. I will check it later once again.
   7. 00:37:323 - add a d here? there exist a hit-sound. Hm, about that one I wasn't sure. But it is rather a significant sound compared to the one I'm actually mapping to.
   8. 01:18:573 (2) - delete this note? set a little break here give me a good feel.and the same at 01:30:280 (1) - Not sure to be honest. For now I will keep it due to self preferences. But not a bad idea.
   9. 01:22:231 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - dddkkkd maybe better.(suggestion.) No, doesn't fit well here.
   10. 01:23:694 (1) - D can be better.because lyric change from the next note. Okay, I will think about this.
   11. 01:41:804 (1,2,3,4,1) - here actually is k(1/4 and kkkkd(1/8),but that patten is unrankable.So I recommend you delete 01:41:804 (1,2,3,4) - .It will set a little break here and nothing unsuit the song. Hm 1/4 on 1/8 is possible, but I find your idea much better at this point. Applied.
   12. 01:42:902 - to 01:47:475 - those patterns ugly.please fix them. Yeah, I found that pattern since the very beginning not fitting so I changed it now.
   13. 01:59:274 - add a d here. same reason as before.
   14. ....what's that?the 2nd KIAI part?.....All right.All patterns rankable and almost suit the song well.But a funny and rankable map is what we need.Or you can tell me this map is a ddddk and ddddd kkkkk practice map.The first 1/2 part of the song looks just fine,and I would like to remap from 01:41:804 - to the end.
       Hopfully you are not telling such stuff to other mappers which are less experienced than me? Mapping is not about making hard maps, it should suit the song in a fair way. One can't say what is fun and what not. Everyone has its own view about that which is skill-based. Maybe for us it isn't fun, but for a lower player it will be fun.
   Important:I strongly recommend you take a rest of mapping.I hope Taikosaki will come back soon ;w;
   
   [Ono's Taiko Muzukashii]
   1. nothing applied. Most patterns are mapped in an alternate way.

I think you misunderstood the modding process Kagami Yuki. It is not about forcing / recommending mapper your own opinion with the reason, that something is boring. That is rather subjective since this varies case by case, depending on players skill. The harder I make a map for example, the less people are able to play the map. Higher guys are always able to use HD / HR / DT for such "easier" maps; lower players are not.
You had some good suggestions, but in general you didn't look at the overall picture of this map. You focused on single patterns and short constellation of it instead of looking at their connection to each other. So didn't you noticed the abekobe style or the alternate way of some patterns either, which is really important in Taiko.
Another point is the emphasize of certain patterns in a map. As I said before, we have only one achse in the game(scrollbar), so there is less possibility in creativity than osu has. That means we have to use patterns in a smart way, so they emphasize each other in a fair way. I could have easily make this map harder without breaks and many complicated patterns, but then it would rather appear monotonically, which is the -well that's my own opinion here- dead for a Taiko map.

Ah, no. I'm not angry or anything like that. You don't have to worry. You are still new here, so I rather tell you right ahead some imput about the modding (Modding Academy? lol).
As I said, you had some good points, but which are only restricted to single patterns. You have to look more at the overall picture of a map and keep your personal preferences away from a map. Mod to the mappers style as long as it isn't unrankable (which wasn't in this case).

Thank you for checking it Yuki! Since I applied two things, I can give you the kd.
Download: http://puu.sh/6imDZ.zip

OnosakiHito wrote:

I think you misunderstood the modding process Kagami Yuki. It is not about forcing / recommending mapper your own opinion with the reason, that something is boring. That is rather subjective since this varies case by case, depending on players skill. The harder I make a map for example, the less people are able to play the map. Higher guys are always able to use HD / HR / DT for such "easier" maps; lower players are not.
You had some good suggestions, but in general you didn't look at the overall picture of this map. You focused on single patterns and short constellation of it instead of looking at their connection to each other. So didn't you noticed the abekobe style or the alternate way of some patterns either, which is really important in Taiko.
Another point is the emphasize of certain patterns in a map. As I said before, we have only one achse in the game(scrollbar), so there is less possibility in creativity than osu has. That means we have to use patterns in a smart way, so they emphasize each other in a fair way. I could have easily make this map harder without breaks and many complicated patterns, but then it would rather appear monotonically, which is the -well that's my own opinion here- dead for a Taiko map.

Ah, no. I'm not angry or anything like that. You don't have to worry. You are still new here, so I rather tell you right ahead some imput about the modding (Modding Academy? lol).
As I said, you had some good points, but which are only restricted to single patterns. You have to look more at the overall picture of a map and keep your personal preferences away from a map. Mod to the mappers style as long as it isn't unrankable (which wasn't in this case).

Thank you for checking it Yuki! Since I applied two things, I can give you the kd.

Thank you for your kds.
Firstly. all words I said in that post were my personal opinions.Secondly,I am not aiming at making hard maps.but one thing that is more fun in a map.We mapped songs we like,and found fun in what we do.Or you think that only make map harder can change it into a fun map?Appreciation for trying to use different patterns and color combinations. ←this is POONwing's saying.Variaty patterns could be fun.
Also,there is nothing connected with how experienced you are.No one can hold quality of his maps.
*I don't know if other lower players would consider about overall picture after their play,or have a clear feel about the whole map.It's too complicated.When I was a lower player , I only know which kind of maps I like and I don't like.I divide all maps into those two kinds until now.Fun to play or not fun to play,it's an easy question.*

It's right about what you said.But we're in defferent ways.This is a game,and I hope you can find your abekobe style.lol

I am a newbie mapper as you said.I don't know what is art in a map,or connections between notes.I even don't care about my map is rankable or not.I've already found my fun when I was mapping.I would never FORCE anyone to follow my words,those were my suggestions,and as what I said,it's up to you.

imo not so serious.Good luck on your way :3

Very true what wing said. That's what I said above as well. :p
Well, it has something to do with experience. But let's move that aside. Heh
Yeah, it is good that you found your preferences.~

Lets wait for the other Modders now.

updated

Hi Ono, here's my mod !

Please tell me what you fixed and what you didn't, or baby pandas will die.

Also bold suggestions are really important and should be absolutely fixed, and bold red issues are unrakable issues. Suggestion finishing with a question mark are minors suggestions.

[Oni]

1. 00:42:902 (5,6,1) - I really doesn't feel the music climax here. Maybe adding a kat at 00:43:451 - would fit more the general climax ?
2. 00:43:634 - 00:45:463 - Really not sure about the speed-up, seems unnecessary to me.
3. 00:49:304 (1,1) - Maybe replace it by a kkd (Or kkD if you still want to keep the finisher) ? I see what you wanted to do here but adding a triplets would follow the drums more accurately and would brings out the next bar by announcing it. It helps marking the difference between the previous part with no/quiet percussion to the next one with louder percussion and background music even if the vocal is the same.
   
   
4. 01:13:085 (1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - Hum, the doublets construction here is fine, but I had a strange feeling while playing it. IMO the doublets should be moved back from 1/2 to the previous white tick.
   Having that kind of pattern starting off beat is really strange and should be motivated by a very clear rhythmical/musical background which is not present here.
   Moreover in those parts 01:18:938 (1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1) - your construction is 1/2 beat ahead (gap between first note and doublets is 2beats and no 2 and half beats), which make much more sense.
5. 01:14:365, 01:24:609, 01:26:073 - ^
6. 01:18:755 (1) - Finisher instead. It will mark the next part of the chorus. Also this is an important crash cymbal hit.
7. 02:58:268 (1) - Same than 00:43:634
   
   
8. 01:52:780 (1) - k instead ? Seems funnier to play (Also add some variation prom previous part) and fits more the very high pitched synthetiser.
9. 02:05:585 (1,2,3,4,1) - hum, at the part from 02:05:585 (1,2,3,4,1) to 02:05:585 (1,2,3,4,1) - You decided to avoid putting 1/4 at the end of each bar in order to brings out the vocals with finishers, so I think it'll be better to stay consistent and do the same here.
10. 02:11:438 (1,1) - Finishers ? For consistency purpose with that exact same part @ 00:55:341 (1) -
11. 02:16:377 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - Same issue than the two previous suggestions, I would do something like this (with the last two notes being finishers)
    
    
    
12. 02:35:585 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - Same issue than the previous chorus. I'll a dk kd k dirrectly starting from 02:35:585
13. 02:37:048 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - ^
14. 02:47:109 (1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - Same issue, but I'm sure you can find goods variations while keeping a consistent structure here :p
15. 02:58:268 (1) - Wow wow wow, I'm still doubtfull about those speed-ups belloging in those parts, but here it's really too violent compared to the rest of the difficulty, you should really consider changing it

[Muzukashii]
General :
As I pointed it up in the Oni, I'm really not sure those speed-up really fits where you placed them.

1. 00:04:487 - and 00:10:432 - Maybe add a k here ? Since this part is oooo oooo o o while the other is oooo oooooo it seems a little too empty.
2. 00:13:816 (1,2) - D K instead ? I think you can affoard following the synthetiser pitch here considering the overall difficulty of your muzukashii
3. 00:14:914 (1,2,3) - K D D instead ? Same reason
   
4. 00:58:268 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Sounds really weird, to me it's 1 beat too long, consider removing the last two notes or making looks like this t ofit the drum cymbal hit and fill that part : http://puu.sh/6jLq6.png (with 00:59:731 - being either a D or K finisher)
5. 02:02:658 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ but without the finisher.
6. 02:08:512 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ with finisher
7. 02:20:219 (2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^

That's all for this diff, IMO the dkdkdkd parts are a little too redundant if you ask me even if you tried to diversified it with a lot of structural variations. All the other parts are higher quality wise than those one but also difficulty wise. Maybe you could find something to add some variation and a little more of difficulty (Not too much, but just make the gap between these parts and the other one a little smaller).


This is pretty well designed so you should have your taiko icon soon, good luck with it ! :3

Nashmun wrote:

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Hi Ono, here's my mod !

Please tell me what you fixed and what you didn't, or baby pandas will die.

Also bold suggestions are really important and should be absolutely fixed, and bold red issues are unrakable issues. Suggestion finishing with a question mark are minors suggestions.

[Oni]

1. 00:42:902 (5,6,1) - I really doesn't feel the music climax here. Maybe adding a kat at 00:43:451 - would fit more the general climax ? Good idea.
2. 00:43:634 - 00:45:463 - Really not sure about the speed-up, seems unnecessary to me. Removed since some other people said the same.
3. 00:49:304 (1,1) - Maybe replace it by a kkd (Or kkD if you still want to keep the finisher) ? I see what you wanted to do here but adding a triplets would follow the drums more accurately and would brings out the next bar by announcing it. It helps marking the difference between the previous part with no/quiet percussion to the next one with louder percussion and background music even if the vocal is the same.Since this is rather single pattern based, I prefer keeping current finisher since it is connected to the upcoming patterns (in other words a higher instance?).
   
   
4. 01:13:085 (1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - Hum, the doublets construction here is fine, but I had a strange feeling while playing it. IMO the doublets should be moved back from 1/2 to the previous white tick.
   Having that kind of pattern starting off beat is really strange and should be motivated by a very clear rhythmical/musical background which is not present here.
   Moreover in those parts 01:18:938 (1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1) - your construction is 1/2 beat ahead (gap between first note and doublets is 2beats and no 2 and half beats), which make much more sense. Yeah, I understand your point. And I'm not sure about this yet. Yes, your suggestion is reasonable, but shifting the notes back without adding a triplet as I did at 01:30:646 feels not well to me. Also, I want to keep this part in the kiai easy to be able to emphasize the upcoming parts more. Give me some time to think about this please.
5. 01:14:365, 01:24:609, 01:26:073 - ^
6. 01:18:755 (1) - Finisher instead. It will mark the next part of the chorus. Also this is an important crash cymbal hit. I didn't add any at 01:24:609 or 01:12:902, so I don't want to change this. It happens rarely that I use finishers in pattern constellations.
7. 02:58:268 (1) - Same than 00:43:634 This time I'm fine with these. The finishers emphasize with the additional SV changes this part really well. Vocal is really strong at this part so that was my solution for this. Also, 01:12:902 (2,1) - seems to be easier playable since the finisher is not dragged by the stream.
   
   
8. 01:52:780 (1) - k instead ? Seems funnier to play (Also add some variation prom previous part) and fits more the very high pitched synthetiser. Alright.
9. 02:05:585 (1,2,3,4,1) - hum, at the part from 02:05:585 (1,2,3,4,1) to 02:05:585 (1,2,3,4,1) - You decided to avoid putting 1/4 at the end of each bar in order to brings out the vocals with finishers, so I think it'll be better to stay consistent and do the same here. Talked about this in IRC. I will check this soon again.
10. 02:11:438 (1,1) - Finishers ? For consistency purpose with that exact same part @ 00:55:341 (1) - explained in IRC ^
11. 02:16:377 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - Same issue than the two previous suggestions, I would do something like this (with the last two notes being finishers) ^ (though, I like this idea yep)
    
    
    
12. 02:35:585 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - Same issue than the previous chorus. I'll a dk kd k dirrectly starting from 02:35:585 *sighs* I will ask some more guys about this. I'm not sure about this anymore if I'm honest.
13. 02:37:048 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - ^
14. 02:47:109 (1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - Same issue, but I'm sure you can find goods variations while keeping a consistent structure here :p
15. 02:58:268 (1) - Wow wow wow, I'm still doubtfull about those speed-ups belloging in those parts, but here it's really too violent compared to the rest of the difficulty, you should really consider changing it These I will rather keep due to self preferences and reasons I explained above.

[Muzukashii]
General :
As I pointed it up in the Oni, I'm really not sure those speed-up really fits where you placed them.

1. 00:04:487 - and 00:10:432 - Maybe add a k here ? Since this part is oooo oooo o o while the other is oooo oooooo it seems a little too empty. Hm, it was rather intension to have no note here. Previously the part was long, but I cut it. Wanted to differ it a lot from Oni.
2. 00:13:816 (1,2) - D K instead ? I think you can affoard following the synthetiser pitch here considering the overall difficulty of your muzukashii ok
3. 00:14:914 (1,2,3) - K D D instead ? Same reason ok
   
4. 00:58:268 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Sounds really weird, to me it's 1 beat too long, consider removing the last two notes or making looks like this t ofit the drum cymbal hit and fill that part : http://puu.sh/6jLq6.png (with 00:59:731 - being either a D or K finisher) I rather think it does fit because... tbh I don't know why. I guess that's my feeling? lol - I like it how it is.
5. 02:02:658 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ but without the finisher.
6. 02:08:512 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ with finisher
7. 02:20:219 (2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^

That's all for this diff, IMO the dkdkdkd parts are a little too redundant if you ask me even if you tried to diversified it with a lot of structural variations. All the other parts are higher quality wise than those one but also difficulty wise. Maybe you could find something to add some variation and a little more of difficulty (Not too much, but just make the gap between these parts and the other one a little smaller).


This is pretty well designed so you should have your taiko icon soon, good luck with it ! :3

Oh, really nice suggestions you provided here. Those which are marked in orange are suggestions I will consider later once again, since I'm unsure about their current state.
Thank you Nashmun!

Edit:

Aaaaah, I forgot to add the download link lol:
http://puu.sh/6tQsY.zip

Mod requested in #taiko.

5000th post ahead.

[Muzukashii]
00:01:195 (1) - 00:04:121 (1) - 00:07:048 (1) - 00:09:975 (1) - For some reason, I feel like these notes have a weird impact on the song that are a bit counter-climatic to the specific song part. This is pretty calm, yet you've made big notes that imply "breaking" instants which are not really present here.
00:17:292 (1,1) - I believe a dd here would fit as well as you have stronger kicks (that are the same) - and they somewhat "break" the drum pattern in 00:16:560 (4,1,1,1) - .
00:24:243 (1,1) - I'm uncertain about this, but it might be worth a try: Put in a don and change the pattern so you get in the end a ddd D -- the drum pattern would call for one instead of a simple d k D.
00:30:646 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - A bit surprising at first glance, but fits well the music. A simpler way to make it would either be http://puu.sh/6taFJ.png or http://puu.sh/6taHs.png (The second being most fitting in my opinion).
00:36:316 (1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - Same as above, there is a simpler way that fits as well as the current, which is http://puu.sh/6taWT.png.
00:48:024 (1,1) - I'll reiterate 00:17:292 (1,1) - as it's the exact same thing.
01:12:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - In that section, I'm hearing xxx xxx (the 4 first x as well as the space are where you've made your kats -- something like that http://puu.sh/6tbez.png). I think you'd be better off putting kkk kkk (to the risk of making kkk D a bit quicky to play), since you've mapped strict to the drums here.
01:15:829 (1,1,2,3,1,2,1) - For some reason I would hear dons where there are lyrics - that is 01:15:829 (1) - , 01:16:560 (2) - and 01:16:743 (1) - . However I see the problem with the pattern itself, which would end up broken
01:27:536 (1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - Same here.
01:39:060 - I think you would find it insignificant or anything, but add a don here ? It's a pretty loud and clear kick, which would be more than fitting !
01:41:987 - ^ Same here, but it's not a must (rolling)
01:52:597 (1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - It's a tough pattern, and different from what you've done on 00:30:646 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - , maybe make these two patterns similar ?
02:11:804 (1) - I don't think this note needs much accent, as well as 02:16:012 (1,1,1) -, or 02:17:658 (1) - -- I think smaller notes are more than enough to fulfill the notes.
02:23:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Sadly ddddd--K breaks a bit the feeling you could have done by doing D-D--K, which would fit better.
02:26:073 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^ (abekobe style, though.)
02:28:999 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^ (Déjà vu ? -- Make it the same as 02:23:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - .)
03:01:012 - , 03:03:938 - Same comments as in 01:39:060 - and 01:41:987 -.
03:14:548 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - The simplification proposed on 00:30:646 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - would also work here. This is not a must, though.

[Oni]
00:45:097 (1,1) - The transition between these two notes is much more awkward than 00:38:146 (3,4) - as it could be unexpected. Maybe gradually decrease the speed before ? -- that is, putting .87x around 00:44:914 (1,1) - (could be extended to 00:44:548 (1,1,1) - but the gradual slowdown would be even more awkward imho.) Don't count this one.
01:35:585 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - The last note of the stream abruptly goes up to 1.8x, and it's a K, which combined is a double unexpected thing to do. I'd recommend either cutting out the stream on 01:36:225 (2) - , or putting 1.8x after the K. Another thing would be doing it a la Senbonzakura (your own map, [Ura Oni]), that is gradually increasing the speed till you hit your intended maximum.
02:04:853 - You can add in a don, but this is not really a must-do. It feels a bit empty there, but it's not a big problem.
02:56:804 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Same as 01:35:585 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) -.

As Nashmun said, your map pretty much revolves around d k d k d k d.. which is more seen in Muzukashii than in Oni (due to more variety in patterns), but this is a problem due to the Eurobeat style of the song which uses a kick-hat-kick-hat... drum pattern.
Once kazuki posts his mods and you reply to these, you may call a Taiko BAT. And thus starting off the ranking process.

_Gezo_ wrote:

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Mod requested in #taiko.

5000th post ahead.

[Muzukashii]
00:01:195 (1) - 00:04:121 (1) - 00:07:048 (1) - 00:09:975 (1) - For some reason, I feel like these notes have a weird impact on the song that are a bit counter-climatic to the specific song part. This is pretty calm, yet you've made big notes that imply "breaking" instants which are not really present here. Oh, you are right.
00:17:292 (1,1) - I believe a dd here would fit as well as you have stronger kicks (that are the same) - and they somewhat "break" the drum pattern in 00:16:560 (4,1,1,1) - . ok
00:24:243 (1,1) - I'm uncertain about this, but it might be worth a try: Put in a don and change the pattern so you get in the end a ddd D -- the drum pattern would call for one instead of a simple d k D. great idea
00:30:646 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - A bit surprising at first glance, but fits well the music. A simpler way to make it would either be http://puu.sh/6taFJ.png or http://puu.sh/6taHs.png (The second being most fitting in my opinion). I tried these before, but I don't like it that much.
00:36:316 (1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - Same as above, there is a simpler way that fits as well as the current, which is http://puu.sh/6taWT.png. ^
00:48:024 (1,1) - I'll reiterate 00:17:292 (1,1) - as it's the exact same thing. I will keep it. Similiar case, but here we have a higher pitch.
01:12:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - In that section, I'm hearing xxx xxx (the 4 first x as well as the space are where you've made your kats -- something like that http://puu.sh/6tbez.png&#41;. I think you'd be better off putting kkk kkk (to the risk of making kkk D a bit quicky to play), since you've mapped strict to the drums here. That was intentionally. Wanted to have a rise of kat patterns. But I changed it a little.
01:15:829 (1,1,2,3,1,2,1) - For some reason I would hear dons where there are lyrics - that is 01:15:829 (1) - , 01:16:560 (2) - and 01:16:743 (1) - . However I see the problem with the pattern itself, which would end up broken
01:27:536 (1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - Same here. ok
01:39:060 - I think you would find it insignificant or anything, but add a don here ? It's a pretty loud and clear kick, which would be more than fitting !
01:41:987 - ^ Same here, but it's not a must (rolling) applied both
01:52:597 (1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - It's a tough pattern, and different from what you've done on 00:30:646 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - , maybe make these two patterns similar ? I would rather like to keep it. Looks nice in my opinion, sounds good and plays fine. It's not way too hard due to the BPM.
02:11:804 (1) - I don't think this note needs much accent, as well as 02:16:012 (1,1,1) -, or 02:17:658 (1) - -- I think smaller notes are more than enough to fulfill the notes. I'm okay with these since I wanted to emphasize in this way the vocal.
02:23:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Sadly ddddd--K breaks a bit the feeling you could have done by doing D-D--K, which would fit better.
02:26:073 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^ (abekobe style, though.)
02:28:999 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^ (Déjà vu ? -- Make it the same as 02:23:146 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - .) Nah, sorry. Personally I like these patterns.
03:01:012 - , 03:03:938 - Same comments as in 01:39:060 - and 01:41:987 -. ok
03:14:548 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - The simplification proposed on 00:30:646 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - would also work here. This is not a must, though. Same as above.

[Oni]
[strike]
02:04:853 - You can add in a don, but this is not really a must-do. It feels a bit empty there, but it's not a big problem. I'm fine as it is.
Other points I applied.

As Nashmun said, your map pretty much revolves around d k d k d k d.. which is more seen in Muzukashii than in Oni (due to more variety in patterns), but this is a problem due to the Eurobeat style of the song which uses a kick-hat-kick-hat... drum pattern.
Once kazuki posts his mods and you reply to these, you may call a Taiko BAT. And thus starting off the ranking process.

Thank you for you mod Gezo! This one was really helpful. Good points you provide.
Does European has a chance in modding again? Go, Go Nashmun and Gezo. Haha

Download: http://puu.sh/6vwbN.zip

Updated

Thanks Ono and the mods

Ow i forgot this ;_; tomorrow i will mod this ;w;

Here is your mod :3

Ono's Taiko Oni
- Yeah, i know you can omit "Taiko" in the name but that name is a classical :3 It is good as it is
- I think you should use OD6, it is like the standard OD used in taiko (Players evolved a lot so you will see a lot of DT+HR SS ;P)
- I seen in another mod that if you wont use a SB you can disable "Widescreen Support", I dont know if thats true, tell me if it isnt :3

- 00:48:207 (1) - This note sounds off, maybe you can move it here 00:48:298 - or delete.
- 00:49:487 - ~ 00:50:951 - The ambient sounds more shaking you should add some more notes here. (Also, i noticed you just did a not-cool switch between vocals and drums, so you should consider it)
- 00:55:341 - ~ 00:56:804 - Same here
- 01:12:170 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - how about kkddkkkkd?
- 01:17:109 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - kkdkddk sounds way cooler :p
- 01:24:426 - I think this (01:24:426 (4) -) should be k and this (01:24:518 (5) - ) should be moved here (01:24:701 - )
- 01:36:316 - ~ 01:42:170 - As i mentioned to you before, i dont think you should use those speed ups,mainly because the overall difficulty is one and that high sv is planned to be in a higher overall difficulty. I think it would be better if you slow it down to 1.5x or something else, but 1.8x is too high considering this oni is not intended to be that hard.
- Also, this seems like being vocal mapped, but the drums does a similar sound to the vocals in this part, but with the only difference you missed up some notes, maybe because you started to like high speed ups with big notes doing a easy pattern and following mostly vocals :p ( im talking about Kyouki Chinden) but i don't like it a lot, since the old Onosaki i remember used to map 1/1 to do resting times, not CATCH THESE NOTES IF YOU CAN. I hope you understand what i mean.
- 01:41:987 - *sighs* no kazu, you can't put a 1/6 there and a slider would sound bad
- 01:45:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,1) - How much needed is this pattern? I hear a cymbal crash here 01:46:560 - and maybe you can emphatize it.
( I'd suggest to delete this note 01:46:652 - , 01:46:560 (3) - this could be K , 01:46:194 (5) - and this a k)
- - Totally a suggestion based on how i like those long patterns - 02:33:390 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - d k d d k k d d k d k d k k k k d
- 02:46:377 - change this to k and 02:46:469 (5) - move it to 02:46:652 -
- 02:58:268 - ~ 03:04:121 - You know.
- That's all for this diff, it really sounds great :3

Ono's Taiko Muzukashii
- You also unchecked "Widescreen Support" here lol :p
- 00:48:207 (1) - delete, you cant put it in blue lines lol
- 00:50:219 (1) - how about deleting this?
- 00:56:073 (1) - same here?
- 01:26:987 (2,1) - actually doing kkk k was very yummy :3
- As it is in muzu, the speed up section is ok
- I dont know what else should i mention, its really good as it is :3

Good job Onosaki :3

-Anhedonia- wrote:

SPOILER

Ow i forgot this ;_; tomorrow i will mod this ;w;

Here is your mod :3

Ono's Taiko Oni
- Yeah, i know you can omit "Taiko" in the name but that name is a classical :3 It is good as it is
- I think you should use OD6, it is like the standard OD used in taiko (Players evolved a lot so you will see a lot of DT+HR SS ;P)
- I seen in another mod that if you wont use a SB you can disable "Widescreen Support", I dont know if thats true, tell me if it isnt :3

- 00:48:207 (1) - This note sounds off, maybe you can move it here 00:48:298 - or delete. mapped to the beat which is hearable.
- 00:49:487 - ~ 00:50:951 - The ambient sounds more shaking you should add some more notes here. (Also, i noticed you just did a not-cool switch between vocals and drums, so you should consider it) Actually I'm fine as it is, since in this way I'm able to emphasize upcoming pattern more.
- 00:55:341 - ~ 00:56:804 - Same here
- 01:12:170 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - how about kkddkkkkd? Possible, but I think pure k fits better due to vocal. Also the beat is different i nthe song as oyu suggested.
- 01:17:109 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - kkdkddk sounds way cooler :p Arg, this sounds really nice, but wouldn't fit to the upcomin gparts. Sorry.
- 01:24:426 - I think this (01:24:426 (4) -) should be k and this (01:24:518 (5) - ) should be moved here (01:24:701 - ) kat usage would be too soon. Better I start at 01:24:792 since this is the new stanza whch gets emphasized in this way and becmes more noticeable.
- 01:36:316 - ~ 01:42:170 - As i mentioned to you before, i dont think you should use those speed ups,mainly because the overall difficulty is one and that high sv is planned to be in a higher overall difficulty. I think it would be better if you slow it down to 1.5x or something else, but 1.8x is too high considering this oni is not intended to be that hard.
- Also, this seems like being vocal mapped, but the drums does a similar sound to the vocals in this part, but with the only difference you missed up some notes, maybe because you started to like high speed ups with big notes doing a easy pattern and following mostly vocals :p ( im talking about Kyouki Chinden) but i don't like it a lot, since the old Onosaki i remember used to map 1/1 to do resting times, not CATCH THESE NOTES IF YOU CAN. I hope you understand what i mean. Changed SV to x1.50 but kept the patterns as they are. they emphasize the vocals pretty nice.
- 01:45:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,1) - How much needed is this pattern? I hear a cymbal crash here 01:46:560 - and maybe you can emphatize it. Good idea, chaged it.
- - Totally a suggestion based on how i like those long patterns - 02:33:390 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - d k d d k k d d k d k d k k k k d I know how you feel. I had something similar before, but I want to keep it easy at the end.
- 02:46:377 - change this to k and 02:46:469 (5) - move it to 02:46:652 - done
- 02:58:268 - ~ 03:04:121 - You know.
- That's all for this diff, it really sounds great :3

Ono's Taiko Muzukashii
- You also unchecked "Widescreen Support" here lol :p oh yeah
- 00:48:207 (1) - delete, you cant put it in blue lines lol Same as in Oni
- 00:50:219 (1) - how about deleting this? Interesting, but would need to make some more changes to make it more fit, so I will keep it untouched.
- 00:56:073 (1) - same here?
- 01:26:987 (2,1) - actually doing kkk k was very yummy :3 done
- As it is in muzu, the speed up section is ok
- I dont know what else should i mention, its really good as it is :3

Good job Onosaki :3

Thanks for mod! You had some pretty good points. Some I could changeeve though I would like to. lol

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