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Agka
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Gens
I say wtf

[Overall]
- I might do an Easy.
- You'll get a background later, right?

[Fufe's Nuts] You gotta love my nuts.
- Try to lower down abit the beat volume.

General opinion: Yes, there are some spacing irregularities, but they seem purely intentional. Also, you get the hang of it after awhile, so there shouldn't be a problem. (Also, it's pretty fun)

[Watch this]
- The map's good for Normal sampleset. I can barely hear the hitsounds with soft!

Meh, I don't like it. There are no good patterns (just a few), wise hitsound use and... Well, I don't like small hitcircles, but that's just me.
Some patterns are really... confusing. Like at 00:11:72 (7,8,9) - Why not simply fill the area with 1/4 divided beats? Or at 00:33:28 (1,2,3,1) - I think these jumps are fine (rankable), but I don't like them.
This map should be mostly in 1/4 methinks... 1/6 usage is no good.
But oh well, that's just my opinion~

Starred~
Topic Starter
anonymous_old

Gens wrote:

I say wtf
I say .

Gens wrote:

[Watch this]
- The map's good for Normal sampleset. I can barely hear the hitsounds with soft!
I disagree, at least for my skin. I'll try playing with the default skin.

Gens wrote:

Meh, I don't like it. There are no good patterns (just a few), wise hitsound use and... Well, I don't like small hitcircles, but that's just me.
=[

// ]

Gens wrote:

Some patterns are really... confusing. Like at 00:11:72 (7,8,9) - Why not simply fill the area with 1/4 divided beats?
Fixed.

Gens wrote:

Or at 00:33:28 (1,2,3,1) - I think these jumps are fine (rankable), but I don't like them.
Insane-ish.

Gens wrote:

This map should be mostly in 1/4 methinks... 1/6 usage is no good.
I'll consider rewriting the 1/6 parts.
fufe

Gens wrote:

I say wtf

[Overall]
- I might do an Easy.
- You'll get a background later, right?

[Fufe's Nuts] You gotta love my nuts.
- Try to lower down abit the beat volume.

General opinion: Yes, there are some spacing irregularities, but they seem purely intentional. Also, you get the hang of it after awhile, so there shouldn't be a problem. (Also, it's pretty fun)
Vytalibus was talking about making an easy, not sure whats going on with that.

lowered volume a bit.
Download: Dj Steve Porter - Rap Chop (strager) [Fufe's Nuts].osu


-Ill do a mod while im at it i guess.

00:23:91 (1) - nudge forward 1/4
00:44:64 (8) - backward 1/4
00:48:98 (4) - this is 1/4 late imo.. but i guess it works like this. . . maybe
01:13:702- This mini break does not have a 'watch this' attached. (it looks like your doing storyboard way anyways so i guess ill wait till your done with that)
01:22:09 (1,2,3) - this is kinda pointless.
01:38:30 (3,4) - forward 1/4
01:39:24 (1) - remove this hit if u want lyrical accuracy.
01:48:49 (7) [and every combo after this for this section] Why is this not new combo? Same goes for 'the skins at the bottom' is there a reason for such strange comboing?
02:22:00 (10,11,12,13) - does not fit imo.
02:29:26 (5) - ^
02:31:84 (1,2,3) - consider moving so that it doesnt overlap fading notes, theres plenty of room elsewhere. Looks messy to me as is.

Overall. I don't like maps that use too many 1/4 streams. They are ok for some sections but it gets old if its 80% of the map. I would use A LOT more sliders. I also had issues with the mapping style. It is unclear where the breaks in hits are going to appear. [00:11:37 (5,6) - maps (slap)'pin your' but 00:13:486 (x) ignores 'your'] i couldnt play-test much past this so ill stop here.
vytalibus
Add the background on my difficulty, please.

Rename the difficulty to whatever you want.

Download: Dj Steve Porter - Rap Chop (strager) [vytalibus' Slap].osu
Topic Starter
anonymous_old

fufe wrote:

01:39:24 (1) - remove this hit if u want lyrical accuracy.
Listen closely. It is lyrically accurate.

fufe wrote:

Overall. I don't like maps that use too many 1/4 streams. They are ok for some sections but it gets old if its 80% of the map. I would use A LOT more sliders.
Mm, okay. I did kind of find it stale myself after a while, and I guess that's what is causing it.

fufe wrote:

I also had issues with the mapping style. It is unclear where the breaks in hits are going to appear. [00:11:37 (5,6) - maps (slap)'pin your' but 00:13:486 (x) ignores 'your']
Listen closely to both those points you mentioned. Either I'm listening and mapping wrong or you're listening wrong. =X

Added vyt's map.
fufe

fufe wrote:

I also had issues with the mapping style. It is unclear where the breaks in hits are going to appear. [00:11:37 (5,6) - maps (slap)'pin your' but 00:13:486 (x) ignores 'your']
Listen closely to both those points you mentioned. Either I'm listening and mapping wrong or you're listening wrong. =X

in that case, you overmapped. 00:13:36 (4,5) - move backward 1/4
also while im here, 00:23:67 (1) - move forward to map "one" instead of the 'slap' imo. I think its missleading to jump off of lyics so suddenly

consider this a part of my original mod, no kd
Topic Starter
anonymous_old

fufe wrote:

strager wrote:

fufe wrote:

I also had issues with the mapping style. It is unclear where the breaks in hits are going to appear. [00:11:37 (5,6) - maps (slap)'pin your' but 00:13:486 (x) ignores 'your']
Listen closely to both those points you mentioned. Either I'm listening and mapping wrong or you're listening wrong. =X
in that case, you overmapped. 00:13:36 (4,5) - move backward 1/4
Okay, sorry, I'm really stupid. xD

fufe wrote:

also while im here, 00:23:67 (1) - move forward to map "one" instead of the 'slap' imo. I think its missleading to jump off of lyics so suddenly
After much self-debate, I've decided to do this. Would be cheesy with three notes (slap, "one", "slap") so I guess just the lyrics is fine.
Gens

strager wrote:

Gens' should be coming up sometime.
Oh, ok, so now it's official. o.o
Don't worry, it's 40% or so-so~

Also, just passin' by, shouldn't DJ be always capitalized?

EDIT: K, it's done~
[attachment=0:2227c]Dj Steve Porter - Rap Chop (strager) [Gens' Boring Tuna].osu[/attachment:2227c]

Also; please add the BG on my difficulty, it's not there. I'm too lazy to redownload~
fufe
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Gens

fufe wrote:

00:52:51 (1,2) - Unexpected jump. That is all byebye
That was strager's fault I swear D:
Topic Starter
anonymous_old

Gens wrote:

fufe wrote:

00:52:51 (1,2) - Unexpected jump. That is all byebye
That was strager's fault I swear D:
What? I'll redownload the .osu...

Okay apparently a repeat snuck in there. I dunno how; I don't recall opening and messing with that difficulty. Reuploaded.
Ryuukun
[Gens' Boring Tuna]
No problems found

[vytalibus' Slap]
00:29:77 (1) - end spinner here 00:30:94()
01:58:13 (1) - one lvl 3 grid to the right?
02:00:01 (1) - one lvl 3 grid to the left?

[Fufe's Nuts]
No problems found

[Watch This]
why has it 128,040 bpm and not just 128?
00:12:08 (8) - one lvl 3 grid down
00:12:19 (9) - one lvl 3 grid down and one to the right
00:12:19 (9,10,11,12) - now just take all of them and put them 1 lvl 3 grid to the left
00:29:77 (7,8,9) - this is just unreasonable.
00:30:35() - useless break
00:57:30 (8) - thats a bad trap, i'd move it somewhere more left
01:13:38() - useless break
01:15:14() - ^.
01:17:11() - ^.
01:18:85() - ^. (well i think they're intentional since u used those arrows alot, but why don't u just use them on these parts too instead of mini breaks?)
01:38:27() - useless break
01:39:70 (5,6) - move them 1 lvl 3 grid to the right.
01:45:45 (1,2) - one lvl 3 grid to the left and one up

nice map.

+nut uhh... star
vytalibus
Gens
[Overall]
- About the Kiai Time: Use it the same way on all difficulties? (As I did, I mean) If the mappers don't like it, you can delete the Kiai in my map...

[Gens' Boring Tuna]
Oh snap, I can't mod my own Difficulty <3

[vytalibus' Slap]
00:45:01 (1,1) - Change to soft sampleset?
01:30:01 (1) - Undo new combo? I'm just saying this because it says "Two", and... Yeah.

[Fufe's Nuts]
00:21:57 (7,8,9) - This part gets a little confusing at the first play... It wouldn't hurt to move the (8,9) beats a little further apart.
00:45:01 (1,2,3,4) - Change to soft sampleset?
03:04:22 (1,1,1,1) - ^

[Watch this]
Offset's not the same as the other difficulties :[ It's fine though.
00:08:44 (5) - 1/4 longer.
02:44:07 (5) - ^

Yeah, I think the difficulty is more enjoyable now.

~ ~ ~

I'd star this again, but I have no kudos :<
I always waste them in my maps.
Topic Starter
anonymous_old

Gens wrote:

Offset's not the same as the other difficulties :[ It's fine though.
I think that's because everyone else used fufe's timings.
Need an external opinion on the timings.

On the kiai, I don't think it's appropriate personally. I wanna see what vyt and fufe think though.
fufe
[Fufe's Nuts]
00:21:57 (7,8,9) - This part gets a little confusing at the first play... It wouldn't hurt to move the (8,9) beats a little further apart.
SLAP hits grid dead center every time, or every time i could. I made 7 into a slider away from it to better reflect the spacing.
00:45:01 (1,2,3,4) - Change to soft sampleset?
done
03:04:22 (1,1,1,1) - ^
kill the whistles? meh i dun care. strager can change if you guys wish i left it.

Kia- i liked my dynamic nuts cause it gets a little kinky in there but i dont mind either kiaiai way.

Download: Dj Steve Porter - Rap Chop (strager) [Fufe's Nuts].osu
vytalibus
Takuma
Meh.

- All:
That guy is creeeeppyyyy.

- Fufe's nuts:
Please redo the breaks.
03:04:22 (1,1,1,1) - Four consecutive spinners? ); You can do much better than that.

- Watch this:
*belch* Looks a tad troublesome. Also, it lacks normal hitsounds imo. >__>

Starred. >w<
fufe

Takuma wrote:

- Fufe's nuts:
03:04:22 (1,1,1,1) - Four consecutive spinners? ); You can do much better than that.
goes with "music" as intended. Also had positive feedback with that in the past. I opt to keep it as is for now
Strager you can fix the breaks for me =x
PandaCath
I think the offset is 15? Not sure, don't take my word on it.

Nothing wrong, starred.
tieff
[Gens' Boring Tuna]
00:46:18 (4) - This note shoud be here 00:46:12 (1/8), I think.
00:46:88 (5) - New combo?
00:49:22 (x) - Add note, maybe?
00:52:97 (x) - ^^

[vytalibus's Slap]
Love hitsounds here.
00:10:32 (4) - Whistle?
00:17:82 (4) - ^
01:47:58 (3) - Whistle here, maybe...
01:49:46 (3) - Same as ^
01:50:63 (1) - Whstle on end of slider.
01:52:51 (1) - Same as above.

[Fufe's Nuts]
00:41:72 (8) - New combo?
00:45:94 (4) - Slider should end here 00:46:124 (1/8), I think...
00:57:43 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Awesome.
02:51:10 (3) - Clap here?

[Watch This]
00:35:16 (1) - Remove new combo?
No other "problems".

Star.
vytalibus
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Dj Steve Porter - Rap Chop (strager) [vytalibus' Slap].osu
Gens

tieff wrote:

[Gens' Boring Tuna]
00:46:18 (4) - This note shoud be here 00:46:12 (1/8), I think. Using 1/8s it's not safe D:
00:46:88 (5) - New combo? strager can do it for me. ;p
00:49:22 (x) - Add note, maybe? It might be too though for beginners? I dunno, I'll wait a second opinion.
fufe
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Lokamp
You're right: I love this map! That's all.

Gens' Boring Tuna
All ok here! (maybe insert somethin' original in the final part...)

vytalibus's Slap
[01:36:800] (4) clap the end of this slider

Fufe's Nuts
[00:56:610] (4, 10) clap here
[01:47:580] (5, 5, 5, 5) clap here

Watch this
[General] there are too many mini-breaks in the beginning, aren't they?
[General 2] try to add MORE sliders (maybe by replacing some rapid beat series...)
[00:07:980] (3) whistle here
[00:09:850] (5, 7, 8) whistle on 5th, finish the others
[00:14:660] (1) another finish!
[00:24:620] (4, 7) in order, finish-whistle!
[00:26:020] (5) another whistle
[00:28:130] (5, 6) finish here
[00:32:350] (4) clap here
[00:33:290] (1) another clap! (remove the previous one on 8th red)
[00:34:230] (5) CLAP!
[00:40:790] (7, 8, 9) a clap and two finish here
[00:42:190] (3, 6) whistle on 3rd, clap and whistle on 6th
[00:43:600] (3, 4, 5, 7, 8) whistle on 3rd, clap on 4th and 5th, finish the others
[00:48:760] (3, 5) finish the 3rd, clap the 5th!
[00:50:160] (1, 7) clap here
[00:52:270] (6) finish here
[00:52:510] (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) whistle-clap-whistle-clap-finish!
[00:54:850] (4) clap here
[00:55:790] (5) clap?
[00:58:840] (2, 3, 4, 5) replace these 4 beats with a rapid slider (start on 2nd, end on 5th)
[01:02:59] (1, 2, 3, 4) clap-whistle-clap-finish!
[01:08:700] insert a beat around here
[01:09:380] (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) start these sliders with a whistle and end them with a clap
[01:11:730] (1, 3, 4) clap on 1st and 3rd, finish the 4th
[01:12:660] (1, 2, 3) finish the 3rd, whistle the others
[01:32:820] (1, 2, 4) finish on 1st, clap the others
[01:34:230] (1, 5, 8) clap on 8th, whistle the others
[01:42:787] (5) move this beat around here
[01:51:340] (5) clap here
[02:40:790] (3) like upper!
[02:50:280] (1) finish it
[03:04:230] (1) from here until the end, try to add sounds on EVERY 1st beat of EVERY series!

That's another demonstration about how collaboration beatmaps are SO awesome...
GOOD work! Star'd.
Wojjan
Fufe: Fix spacing

Watch this:
00:34:46 (7) - 1 grid 2 to the right
00:37:16 (12) - Prettier 1 grid right, 1 up.
00:44:19 (6) - Vertically align with (3)
00:48:29 (4) - Sounds better on blue tick before. Fix spacing accordingly
I love the SB'd arrows, but why aren't they there on every diff?
01:51:34 (5) - Clap for consistency
02:37:74 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Jumps like 02:30:24 for consistency

All others are great.

You're gonna love my star!
Topic Starter
anonymous_old
@Lokamp, Thanks for your many hit sound suggestions. I took about a third of them and added my own hit sounds based on your comments. For Watch This Claps are for "Slap," "Chop," and chops in the music only.

Wojjan wrote:

Watch this:
00:34:46 (7) - 1 grid 2 to the right // No; jump is intentional
00:37:16 (12) - Prettier 1 grid right, 1 up. // Did my own thing here
00:44:19 (6) - Vertically align with (3) // Redid this design a bit; almost looks like a fish now
00:48:29 (4) - Sounds better on blue tick before. Fix spacing accordingly // Don't know what you mean here
I love the SB'd arrows, but why aren't they there on every diff? // "Watch This" gets the arrows; do you other guys want the arrows as well?
01:51:34 (5) - Clap for consistency // Thanks
02:37:74 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Jumps like 02:30:24 for consistency // No; jumps get tiring and frustrating after a while... I think two is enough

Wojjan wrote:

You're gonna love my star!
=D
eee

strager wrote:

// Redid this design a bit; almost looks like a fish now
I didn't notice it was supposed to look like a fish? anyways, MOVING ON!!
eeemod GO!!!

okay, I was gonna up n' go to give this map a star, couldn't find anything wrong with any of the difficulties, that is UNTIL I WENT TO [Watch This]
oh, no, mmhmm, this is not good, yup. .. . . . . yeah,

ur offsets are incorrect different on the difficulties, I'm definitely sure that this is not rankable. . . so you know, fix it, I like the one on [Watch This] as it doesn't start too sudden and sounds right

that is all. . . . . . good map. . . . them jumps were just surprising to me, I guess they can stay though.
starager. . . . . that was kinda lame, STAR!!!
Topic Starter
anonymous_old

eee wrote:

strager wrote:

// Redid this design a bit; almost looks like a fish now
I didn't notice it was supposed to look like a fish? anyways, MOVING ON!!
eeemod GO!!!

okay, I was gonna up n' go to give this map a star, couldn't find anything wrong with any of the difficulties, that is UNTIL I WENT TO [Watch This]
oh, no, mmhmm, this is not good, yup. .. . . . . yeah,

ur offsets are incorrect on the difficulties, I'm definitely sure that this is not rankable. . . so you know, fix it, I like the one on [Watch This] as it doesn't start too sudden and sounds right

that is all. . . . . . good map. . . . them jumps were just surprising to me, I guess they can stay though.
starager. . . . . that was kinda lame, STAR!!!
Still trying to find the right offset. Mine is like 14ms, theirs is 11ms, and PandaCath suggested 15ms.

What do you guys think (fufe, vyt, Gens)?
Gens

Lokamp wrote:

Gens' Boring Tuna
All ok here! (maybe insert somethin' original in the final part...)
I don't get it :<
I think the ending is fine.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and strager will fix the correct offset for me kthnx. (Discussed in IRC)
Lokamp
I'm here again!
Answering to Gens, I think there is an "incoerence point" between the four modes (it's a bit hard to explain...)
I mean, each of the four modes end in a different point...
If we want to rank (and love) this song, let the modes end at the same point (maybe adding some original beat pattern!)
Shinxyn
Interesting song

Gens'-
00:46:89 (1) - remove slider whistle please
01:00:01 (1) - I don't like how this ends with a clap... just discontinues.. finish instead?

vytalibus'-

00:55:79 (7) - add hitsound here?
I love the hitsounds on this

Fufe's-

after modding the first two, this one's hitsounds are painfully loud... lower a bit of the normal sections please?
01:13:60 (1) - left a tick please?
01:15:01 (1) - up a tick please~
01:16:89 (1) - up a tick (align) or down a tick (making it head down)
01:18:76 (1) - left a tick please
01:26:96 (2) - add finish to end?
02:43:84 (2) - this slider was almost hidden during play D:
hmm I don't like how there's a break then spam spinner ending... map the break or map a bit more?

Watch this-
Maybe also lower volume a bit? (for normal sections)
00:58:72 (1) - remove this if your just following the vocal... or move to white tick if it matches the clap
01:45:71 (3) - extreme nazi- this note's distance is off x_x
hmm I would think some of the streams would sound better with a bit of hitsounds, but oh well

Somehow this is catchy... >_<
fufe
Download: Dj Steve Porter - Rap Chop (strager) [Fufe's Nuts].osu


ignored some allignment. New ending. Messy combo placement, wasnt sure what to do with it. Change it up at your will. Also made 00:56:034 area deathstreams less evil.
Spierek
Star. Can't wait to see this ranked.
Agka
WATCH THIS you gonna love my nuts.

It's easy it's like one hand n' CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP



i had to.
Starrodkirby86
I did love your nuts. Too bad I'm so late.

[Fufe's Nuts]:
02:02:59 (3) - Space it out wider so it becomes a horizontal flip of the red (3) ahead and other things like that.

[Watch This]:
00:34:46 (7) - Space this (7) a bit closer. I know I'm treading on dangerous territory here, but for something like this you should try having a stream have some consistent spacing. :S Why not just lodge it to the left of (6)?
01:08:10 (1,2,3) - Do you need to add some beats after that? Don't know, just sounds so incomplete, especially since it's done on 1/4.
02:31:65 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Trap much? XD

Those are purely suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.
Sleep Powder
[Gens Tuna]
00:57:20 (3) - End the repeat on the red tick maybe?
00:59:07 (3) - ^
00:40:32 (2,3,4) - ^
02:46:89 (1) - ^
02:48:76 (1) - ^
Sleep Powder
[Slap]
01:04:70 (3) - Maybe make this a slider on the white ticks instead?
01:06:34 (3) - ^
01:12:90 (3) - Take out clap on repeat?

[Nuts]
00:20:28 (x) - Add a Note here?
00:44:54 (6) - End on red tick?
00:55:79 (7) - White Tick
00:57:43 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - This part is a little confusing...
maybe move 13,14,15 a bit farther? not overlapping
02:23:92 (6) - Clap here?
02:27:67 (6) - ^
02:55:56 (x) - Add Note here?

[Watch this]
00:11:38 (5) - Delete Clap?
00:14:78 (2) - Add a clap here
00:33:29 (1,2,3) - Spacing...bad...fix it lol
00:34:46 (7) - ^
00:34:58 (1,2,3) - ^ stuff in here
00:58:76 (1) - Delete and just make the slider start there
01:08:33 (3) - No slider after this one?
01:54:85 (6) - New Combo?
01:54:74 (5) - (optional) Delete this note
01:56:61 (5) - ^
01:56:73 (6) - new Combo
Apply that to the rest in that pattern
02:30:71 (3,4) - Use the same spacing before the jumps on these parts?
For having a deathstream in here the maximum stars I will rate this will be 9 when its ranked lolz
03:11:85 (1) - White Tick...change spacing too
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