Foo Fighters - Monkey Wrench

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Kuronoya

TeriosShadow wrote:

This is my first time modding a beatmap, so bear with me! I think you did good, too~

Starting with the guest difficulty (Hard)
This is extremely well done! Thank you! Only comment is this one:
03:26:881 (1,2,3,4,5) - Distance spacing gets progressively greater, seems a little out place, maybe make it uniform like the rest of the song? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I was going for uniformity in it, so I wonder why I even did that. xD Changed! Made some other improvements / adjustments, too.

For all the sliders you made look a little weird on purpose, I think they'd look better that way if you had some sort of theme that you were following, especially since it's an easier difficulty. If you are wanting to keep them, I'd make them more abundant as well as having a set style. Adding on: You should keep in mind aesthetics when making sliders, Danny! c: Like with that "Making Delicious Sliders" guide. Makes playing the map more enjoyable, I think.
Leper
General
Just add clap sound to 2/4 and 4/4 beats of the song


Insane
02:10:912 (1) - 02:16:425 (1) - 02:21:765 (1) - You should change these spinners for break times, the map is really hard and people have to rest sometimes.
02:33:135 - 02:52:084 - 2 things here, first, you need to let all combos go to (8), it feels realy weird when following the music, just put them all to (8) to follow the music beat. also, try this (i tried it, and was awesome):

03:10:344 - Remove this note, from the previous chorus too.
03:11:550 (1,2) - Way better:

03:18:268 (4) - This have to start here : 03:18:096 -
Topic Starter
Danny

Dat Leper wrote:

General
Just add clap sound to 2/4 and 4/4 beats of the song Will do, Ive been having trouble with the hitsounds haha, changed them 3 times so far, thanks.

Insane
02:10:912 (1) - 02:16:425 (1) - 02:21:765 (1) - You should change these spinners for break times, the map is really hard and people have to rest sometimes. Fixed. Ill try to find another place for a spinner.
02:33:135 - 02:52:084 - 2 things here, first, you need to let all combos go to (8), it feels realy weird when following the music, just put them all to (8) to follow the music beat. also, try this (i tried it, and was awesome): I let all combos go to 8. I will keep them as circles though.

03:10:344 - Remove this note, from the previous chorus too. I don't see the reason for this.
03:11:550 (1,2) - Way better: Fixed.

03:18:268 (4) - This have to start here : 03:18:096 - Fixed.
Thanks man :)
Lanturn
(NOTE THIS IS LIKE 2-3 WEEKS OLD!)

Hey Danny! umm.. I want to say something but instead.. have a monkey with a wrench
soooo kawaiii~~~♥

[General]
Tags: The Colour and the Shape (This is the album name. always nice to have it included) | KuroKanra (You must always add people who make guest diffs for you to your tags to properly credit them)

images.jpg | What is this used for? or is this just a leftover from when I downloaded this map a long time ago... either or, I think you should delete it if you already haven't and you aren't using it for anything.

Background: its 700x500. The recommended fille size is 1024x768 or 1366x768 | I don't have an image editing program on my laptop but I'll try to get a bigger size for you later if you want it.

Also.. it'd be great if you could get a 192kbs version of this song, but 128 is fine for now as it sounds good enough.

Make sure you fix the kiai time in your diffs:

AIBat v3.1 wrote:

Kiai
Inconsistency in Kiai Times:

- [Easy] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:228, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:08:328
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:109, ends on 03:25:503

- [Insane] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:229, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:07:984
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:798, ends on 03:25:848

- [Kanra's Hard] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:229, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:08:328
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:798, ends on 03:25:762
Kiai #4: Starts on 03:25:848, ends on 03:49:965

- [Normal] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:228, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:08:328
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:109, ends on 03:25:503

- [stress] :
Kanra's Hard can be different than yours but all 3 of your difficulties should have the same exact time for Kiai.


Hitsounds: In your easy diff so far, I've noticed that you put hitsounds on the whole slider sometimes. You can click the head, tail and reverse sections (double click) to only add a hitsound to that specific part of the slider. Another thing to note is that sliders have two different behaviors for hitsounds. The whole length of the slider can be a hitsound that gets drawn out (you generally want to avoid using these unless it completely fits the song) and the head/tail/reverse sections which can be individually clicked to add circle like hitsounds to the part that is being played (you want to use this).

[Easy]

AIBat v3.1 wrote:

Snapping

Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
02:33:160 - snap to 02:33:135
03:02:759 - snap to 03:02:764
In general, the sliders look a little bit ugly due to having too many nodes (the little block square things) | You should really only have to put 1-3 per slider (not counting the head/tail ones) at the most. Its up to you how you want to map them though of course. The map just gives a '2009' feel to it lol. If you want to get fancy, you can always copy a slider you made and rotate it twice to make it look beautiful, and its pretty easy to do. Blankets are fun as well, though pretty hard with your 1.40 distance snap.

  1. 00:29:448 (1) - Add finish to the head | Beginning of a measure and it feels missing
  2. 00:43:918 (2,3) - (read below about emtpy notes) combine these into one long slider
  3. 00:49:431 (2) - Extend this slider another 1/1 to 00:50:120 | It catches the held down vocals.
  4. 00:52:187 (2,3,4) - combine these into one long slider? 00:52:532 (3) - the head is an empty note on the (3) and (4) (No background music to work with it.) Try using a reverse in the middle of it.(at 00:52:876 -)
  5. 01:02:178 (1) - Move this 1/1 back to 01:01:834 - ----v
  6. 01:03:557 (2) - delete this and ---v
  7. 01:03:901 (1) - Move the spinner start to 01:03:212 - This plays better and follow the drum line properly, and makes the short spinner long enough (because it was too short for an easy diff)


  8. Notes like 01:02:178 (1) - are empty and shouldn't really be there. This can be avoided by moving the slider 1/2 back or starting the slider 1/1 earlier where the drums should be. (on red ticks)
  9. 01:38:354 - add note with finish? | this finish here is something you probably don't want to avoid. as it sticks out too much.. you can ignore this if you want to just continue following the vocals like you've been doing
  10. 01:41:110 - ^
  11. 01:43:867 - ^
  12. 01:44:211 (1) - lol @ this slider.. I think thats quite a bit too many nodes, and it will confuse newer players with the sudden slowdown and it moving strangely.
  13. 01:50:068 (2,3) - Combine these into one long reverse slider or turn the (2) into a circle.
  14. 02:00:060 (1) - move this 1/1 back and turn it into a reverse slider so it ends at 02:01:093 -
  15. 02:01:438 (2) - delete this slider and add a circle at 02:01:782 -
  16. 03:04:487 (2,3) - combine these into one long slider since the start of (3) is an empty note.
  17. 03:12:756 (2,3,4) - Make this one a reverse slider, ending where the end of (4) is.
  18. 03:17:234 (1,2,3) - Move the (1) to 03:16:890 - and make the same reverse slider as above starting at 03:18:268 -
  19. 03:24:470 (3,1) - Example of sliders that just look ugly.. I would suggest trying to blanket them at least and make sure not to overlap.
  20. 03:28:948 (1) - seperate this into two sliders: (1) starts at 03:28:948 end at 03:29:638 | (2) starts/ends at 03:29:638 - 03:31:016
  21. 03:47:209 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try this (Delete all notes here) | Slider from 03:47:209 - 03:47:898 | Slider from 03:48:587 - 03:49:276 | Two circles at 03:49:965 - and 03:50:309 -

    I would highly suggest remapping the sliders, and maybe trying to use 1.2 distance spacing.. though 1.4 should be fine.


anything below this was done today..

[Normal]

Lots of distance spacing issues in this difficulty. maybe try a few other patterns instead of mostly just 1/1s, especially during the kiai time.

00:21:868 (7,8) - Use the distance spacing for this. 1.88 is too big from your 1.40 distance snap.
00:30:137 (3,4) - I would stack this note or separate them completely. It really adds confusion and people might think its a 1/4 or 1/2 note instead.
00:31:515 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - 6 to 1 is too far. and those anti jumps are really confusing for a normal. There is also really no rhythm change in the music to suggest wanting to put anti-jumps in.
00:34:961 (1,2) - Distance Spacing
00:41:507 (2,3) - instead of stacking these, connect the tail of the (2) with the head of the (3) so its less confusing. as people won't know with a covered note when to hit the next reverse slider.
01:03:557 (5,6) - ^
01:35:598 (1,2,3,4,5) - again, I wouldn't recommend the anti-jumps here. Also for the future, make sure to space them out evenly. In the top right area when you select a note, it will say prev 1.40 / next 1.59 for example. your Distance snap is 1.4 so its best to try to keep all notes on normals and easy diffs close to the 1.4 number.
01:44:900 (2,3) - same as 41 and 1:03
02:06:950 (5,6) - ^
02:15:563 (4,5,6) - Distance Spacing
02:28:311 (2,3) - these need to be closer together, it feels like an unpredictable jump because the music doesn't 'call' for it.
You also start using 1.6 DS around this point... Its best to stick to a single DS for easy and normals. sometimes it can work for kiai times and such but it feels a bit random here.
02:33:135 (1,2,3,4,5) - and now you switch to 1.8 X_X; mind the spacing on this as well.. the anti jumps again don't really work well for normal.
02:36:235 (3,4,5) - ^
and the same goes for the rest. maybe just stack the 3,4,5 instead?
03:05:176 (4,3) - stack the 3 on the 4 slider.

there's quite a bit of repetition for the remainder of this song and I'm sure you'll be able to notice them. The distance spacing should be fine, not guaranteeing anything, but the sudden jumps really need to be changed. if you can keep a constant DS at 1.4 / 1.6 / 1.8 for all your notes, it should be fine. Anti jumps is the main thing that worries me though.

alright, lets move on.

[Kanra's Hard]

HP6?

00:38:061 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/3fRof.jpg | Instead of that diagonal approach to the slider, how about trying this to make it more symmetrical.
01:20:611 (9) - move the tail end of this slider up either northwest or north to give some sense of direction the next note will be in the center of the map.
02:03:160 (1,2) - truth be told. I don't think the extra 1/4 length in this slider is necessary | Sounds better as a 1/2 instead. Maybe try 1/1 slider and a circle?

Lower the volume of the finish spam section by at least 10%. Its really loud X_X

03:20:335 (1) - same thing as 2:03:160 - it hits an empty note on this 1/4
03:49:965 - I don't see a reason to cut the Kiai here. It'd probably work best until the final note hits.

Great diff!

[Insane]
HP7?

00:28:414 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move the 3 down One Grid on your current size. and then copy paste and rotate them making them 4 5 and 6. This will create a similar distance between each note. (move the 4,5,6 back to its original spot of course)
00:41:162 (3) - end this 1/4 earlier and add a note after. Also, this whole stream has some inconsistencies with spacing. I would suggest redoing this while keeping an eye on the distance spacing you want.
01:03:384 (2) - nothing in the music to indicate a stream for this slider.
02:05:572 (2,3,4) - really bad anti jump. Nothing in the music for this. People will probably think they're just 1/4 notes.
02:12:166 - and a few other spots.. insert breaks here so HP doesn't drain. This applies to the few sections ahead as well
03:31:360 (1,2,3,4) - I would rework this. The distance spacing here is a bit confusing | Try moving the (2) to x304 / y192
03:42:213 (1) - move this 1/2 back to 03:42:041 - for better rhythm
03:50:309 (6) - end this slider 1/2 later..


anyways, Few more improvements need to be made and on normals and such, its best to watch your distance spacing so it won't confuse players.

i'll edit the easy and general stuff in when i get on my laptop XD
Kuronoya
o: I added all of Lanturn's fixes to my diff! I hope I did, ahhhh! They were perfect, thank you very much~ Except instead of lowering the volume of the finishes in that section where I spam them in probably a bad way, I just deleted all those inherited timing sections. They only would have been 5% louder, so;; Sorry, my computer speakers make them sound loud, and my earphones make them sound soft, so I just can't really tell about those. xD I'll give Danny the .osu when he gets back on!
Topic Starter
Danny

Lanturn wrote:

(NOTE THIS IS LIKE 2-3 WEEKS OLD!)

Hey Danny! umm.. I want to say something but instead.. have a monkey with a wrench
soooo kawaiii~~~♥

[General]
Tags: The Colour and the Shape (This is the album name. always nice to have it included) | KuroKanra (You must always add people who make guest diffs for you to your tags to properly credit them)

images.jpg | What is this used for? or is this just a leftover from when I downloaded this map a long time ago... either or, I think you should delete it if you already haven't and you aren't using it for anything.

Background: its 700x500. The recommended fille size is 1024x768 or 1366x768 | I don't have an image editing program on my laptop but I'll try to get a bigger size for you later if you want it.

Also.. it'd be great if you could get a 192kbs version of this song, but 128 is fine for now as it sounds good enough.

Make sure you fix the kiai time in your diffs:

AIBat v3.1 wrote:

Kiai
Inconsistency in Kiai Times:

- [Easy] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:228, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:08:328
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:109, ends on 03:25:503

- [Insane] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:229, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:07:984
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:798, ends on 03:25:848

- [Kanra's Hard] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:229, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:08:328
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:798, ends on 03:25:762
Kiai #4: Starts on 03:25:848, ends on 03:49:965

- [Normal] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:43:228, ends on 01:04:935
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:46:623, ends on 02:08:328
Kiai #3: Starts on 03:03:109, ends on 03:25:503

- [stress] :
Kanra's Hard can be different than yours but all 3 of your difficulties should have the same exact time for Kiai.


Hitsounds: In your easy diff so far, I've noticed that you put hitsounds on the whole slider sometimes. You can click the head, tail and reverse sections (double click) to only add a hitsound to that specific part of the slider. Another thing to note is that sliders have two different behaviors for hitsounds. The whole length of the slider can be a hitsound that gets drawn out (you generally want to avoid using these unless it completely fits the song) and the head/tail/reverse sections which can be individually clicked to add circle like hitsounds to the part that is being played (you want to use this).

[Easy]

AIBat v3.1 wrote:

Snapping

Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
02:33:160 - snap to 02:33:135
03:02:759 - snap to 03:02:764
In general, the sliders look a little bit ugly due to having too many nodes (the little block square things) | You should really only have to put 1-3 per slider (not counting the head/tail ones) at the most. Its up to you how you want to map them though of course. The map just gives a '2009' feel to it lol. If you want to get fancy, you can always copy a slider you made and rotate it twice to make it look beautiful, and its pretty easy to do. Blankets are fun as well, though pretty hard with your 1.40 distance snap.

  1. 00:29:448 (1) - Add finish to the head | Beginning of a measure and it feels missing
  2. 00:43:918 (2,3) - (read below about emtpy notes) combine these into one long slider
  3. 00:49:431 (2) - Extend this slider another 1/1 to 00:50:120 | It catches the held down vocals.
  4. 00:52:187 (2,3,4) - combine these into one long slider? 00:52:532 (3) - the head is an empty note on the (3) and (4) (No background music to work with it.) Try using a reverse in the middle of it.(at 00:52:876 -)
  5. 01:02:178 (1) - Move this 1/1 back to 01:01:834 - ----v
  6. 01:03:557 (2) - delete this and ---v
  7. 01:03:901 (1) - Move the spinner start to 01:03:212 - This plays better and follow the drum line properly, and makes the short spinner long enough (because it was too short for an easy diff)


  8. Notes like 01:02:178 (1) - are empty and shouldn't really be there. This can be avoided by moving the slider 1/2 back or starting the slider 1/1 earlier where the drums should be. (on red ticks)
  9. 01:38:354 - add note with finish? | this finish here is something you probably don't want to avoid. as it sticks out too much.. you can ignore this if you want to just continue following the vocals like you've been doing
  10. 01:41:110 - ^
  11. 01:43:867 - ^
  12. 01:44:211 (1) - lol @ this slider.. I think thats quite a bit too many nodes, and it will confuse newer players with the sudden slowdown and it moving strangely.
  13. 01:50:068 (2,3) - Combine these into one long reverse slider or turn the (2) into a circle.
  14. 02:00:060 (1) - move this 1/1 back and turn it into a reverse slider so it ends at 02:01:093 -
  15. 02:01:438 (2) - delete this slider and add a circle at 02:01:782 -
  16. 03:04:487 (2,3) - combine these into one long slider since the start of (3) is an empty note.
  17. 03:12:756 (2,3,4) - Make this one a reverse slider, ending where the end of (4) is.
  18. 03:17:234 (1,2,3) - Move the (1) to 03:16:890 - and make the same reverse slider as above starting at 03:18:268 -
  19. 03:24:470 (3,1) - Example of sliders that just look ugly.. I would suggest trying to blanket them at least and make sure not to overlap.
  20. 03:28:948 (1) - seperate this into two sliders: (1) starts at 03:28:948 end at 03:29:638 | (2) starts/ends at 03:29:638 - 03:31:016
  21. 03:47:209 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try this (Delete all notes here) | Slider from 03:47:209 - 03:47:898 | Slider from 03:48:587 - 03:49:276 | Two circles at 03:49:965 - and 03:50:309 -

    I would highly suggest remapping the sliders, and maybe trying to use 1.2 distance spacing.. though 1.4 should be fine.


anything below this was done today..

[Normal]

Lots of distance spacing issues in this difficulty. maybe try a few other patterns instead of mostly just 1/1s, especially during the kiai time.

00:21:868 (7,8) - Use the distance spacing for this. 1.88 is too big from your 1.40 distance snap.
00:30:137 (3,4) - I would stack this note or separate them completely. It really adds confusion and people might think its a 1/4 or 1/2 note instead.
00:31:515 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - 6 to 1 is too far. and those anti jumps are really confusing for a normal. There is also really no rhythm change in the music to suggest wanting to put anti-jumps in.
00:34:961 (1,2) - Distance Spacing
00:41:507 (2,3) - instead of stacking these, connect the tail of the (2) with the head of the (3) so its less confusing. as people won't know with a covered note when to hit the next reverse slider.
01:03:557 (5,6) - ^
01:35:598 (1,2,3,4,5) - again, I wouldn't recommend the anti-jumps here. Also for the future, make sure to space them out evenly. In the top right area when you select a note, it will say prev 1.40 / next 1.59 for example. your Distance snap is 1.4 so its best to try to keep all notes on normals and easy diffs close to the 1.4 number.
01:44:900 (2,3) - same as 41 and 1:03
02:06:950 (5,6) - ^
02:15:563 (4,5,6) - Distance Spacing
02:28:311 (2,3) - these need to be closer together, it feels like an unpredictable jump because the music doesn't 'call' for it.
You also start using 1.6 DS around this point... Its best to stick to a single DS for easy and normals. sometimes it can work for kiai times and such but it feels a bit random here.
02:33:135 (1,2,3,4,5) - and now you switch to 1.8 X_X; mind the spacing on this as well.. the anti jumps again don't really work well for normal.
02:36:235 (3,4,5) - ^
and the same goes for the rest. maybe just stack the 3,4,5 instead?
03:05:176 (4,3) - stack the 3 on the 4 slider.

there's quite a bit of repetition for the remainder of this song and I'm sure you'll be able to notice them. The distance spacing should be fine, not guaranteeing anything, but the sudden jumps really need to be changed. if you can keep a constant DS at 1.4 / 1.6 / 1.8 for all your notes, it should be fine. Anti jumps is the main thing that worries me though.

alright, lets move on.

[Kanra's Hard]

HP6?

00:38:061 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/3fRof.jpg | Instead of that diagonal approach to the slider, how about trying this to make it more symmetrical.
01:20:611 (9) - move the tail end of this slider up either northwest or north to give some sense of direction the next note will be in the center of the map.
02:03:160 (1,2) - truth be told. I don't think the extra 1/4 length in this slider is necessary | Sounds better as a 1/2 instead. Maybe try 1/1 slider and a circle?

Lower the volume of the finish spam section by at least 10%. Its really loud X_X

03:20:335 (1) - same thing as 2:03:160 - it hits an empty note on this 1/4
03:49:965 - I don't see a reason to cut the Kiai here. It'd probably work best until the final note hits.

Great diff!

[Insane]
HP7?

00:28:414 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move the 3 down One Grid on your current size. and then copy paste and rotate them making them 4 5 and 6. This will create a similar distance between each note. (move the 4,5,6 back to its original spot of course)
00:41:162 (3) - end this 1/4 earlier and add a note after. Also, this whole stream has some inconsistencies with spacing. I would suggest redoing this while keeping an eye on the distance spacing you want.
01:03:384 (2) - nothing in the music to indicate a stream for this slider.
02:05:572 (2,3,4) - really bad anti jump. Nothing in the music for this. People will probably think they're just 1/4 notes.
02:12:166 - and a few other spots.. insert breaks here so HP doesn't drain. This applies to the few sections ahead as well
03:31:360 (1,2,3,4) - I would rework this. The distance spacing here is a bit confusing | Try moving the (2) to x304 / y192
03:42:213 (1) - move this 1/2 back to 03:42:041 - for better rhythm
03:50:309 (6) - end this slider 1/2 later..


anyways, Few more improvements need to be made and on normals and such, its best to watch your distance spacing so it won't confuse players.

i'll edit the easy and general stuff in when i get on my laptop XD
I really fixed up the easy/normal. I think they are a lot better now after your modding. Very nice mod, thank you very much Lanturn. Helped me a lot with this map all together :) I don't have an "image.jpg." And really cool picture xD
Spring Roll
hi~hi~ i come to mod your map~
Eazy
00:16:011 (4,1) - These two colors are a little similar( it means i cant recognize it the first time i played,i dont know what others think :) )
00:21:524 - Add a note
01:56:614 (4) -
A small change about the shape
03:03:798 - I think kiai time is start from now :)
03:22:747 (1) - A little ugly,change the shape like this



Normal
00:25:658 (4) - Ctrl+G
00:26:692 (5,6,7) - regular triangle plz
00:40:473 (1) - Making this slider parallel to 00:40:129 (4) - 's border makes the slider more beautiful
00:42:196 (3) - move it ↑ a little,the same height with 00:41:507 (2) -
00:44:607 (4) - move it ↓ a little,the same height with 00:44:263 (3) -
01:04:246 (6) - move it → a little
01:29:396 (4) - Also make it parallel to 01:30:430 (5) - 's border
01:40:077 (4) - the same,to 01:39:388 (2) - 's border
01:59:026 (3) - the same,to 01:58:681 (2) - 's border :)
02:27:967 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - the hitsound is tooo loud(Especially,finish)
03:03:798 - kiai time start from now
03:07:243 (4) - Move to ( x=248 y=184 )
03:08:277 (5,6) - Move to ( x=388 y=188 )
03:22:058 (4) - Ctrl+G
03:22:747 (1,2,3,4) - Move the 1,make a square with these four notes



Kanra's Hard
Very nice.Icant find any thing to mod ,XD
01:52:997 (4) - Ctrl+G
02:29:517 (3) - Move to (191 , 102)


Insane
00:15:322 (6,7,8) - The same shape plz.
00:28:414 (1,2,3) - Distance Snap
00:35:477 (2) - Reverse one time is okay
00:38:234 (2) - ↑
00:41:162 (3) - ↑
00:50:637 (8) - Snap with the slider's head


Quite exciting song.Hope my mod helps :)
Kuronoya
Kay! Here I go, Danny! DON'T BRICK ME IF IT SOUNDS HARSH, I CAN'T MAKE IT SOUND NOT HARSH. /hides. /shot ahead of time.

[General]
  1. You shouldn't use 255,255,255 as a combo color. Kiai makes the hits flash, so it becomes blinding. Ahh, I saw that somewhere... Yes! This says not to. It's a rule. xD Just make it a little gray?
  2. Insane's second kiai time ends at 2:07:984. Normal and easy's ends at 2:08:328. Decide which one you want, then change the other(s).
  3. Insane's last kiai time starts at 03:03:798. Normal and easy's starts at 3:03:109. Same as above.
  4. Your insane loves to be different, Danneh-boy! Insane's last kiai time ends at 3:25:848. Normal and easy's last kiai time ends at 3:25:503. Fiiix.
  5. Note: These are accurate as long as you didn't change easy's kiai when you fixed the distance spacing. XD Not checking again. /hides
  6. ...I just. don't want to bother you with this again, but. your BG, bro. IT'S ITTY BITTY. I couldn't find the same one as your current, but here, and here, and here, and lastly, here. All are similar to what you had at first (I think; my memory, GEH) but, are larger in size. (And name it "BG".) HUMOR ME, MAYBE?!


Think that's about it for that, checked the .osu files for inconsistencies... Meh. xD

[Easy]
  1. 01:01:834 (1) - This slider that repeats on the 1/2 sounds a little odd to me. Maybe simply this?
  2. 01:40:077 (2,3,4,1,2) - This almost got me. xD After the couple 1/1 hits, waiting for the stack was a bit jarring. Just something to possibly consider removing from an easy, since I'd think to usually avoid stacks altogether in easy difficulties. xD NOT THAT I MAKE EASY DIFFS ALL THAT OFTEN. HUEHUEHUE. /shot.
  3. 02:29:345 (4,5) - I find that this also sounds a little odd. 02:29:345 - & 02:29:689 - sound like they should have hits there, but 02:30:034 - doesn't to me.


[Normal]
  1. Comment: It wouldn't be terrible to add a few 1/2 hits in this diff. xD Not many, or many in a row, but. Considering my diff just a level above is constantly on the 1/2... Anyways.
  2. The distance spacing in this one is also a bit high... Maybe change it to 1.1 or 1.2?
  3. 00:41:507 (2,3) - 01:03:557 (5,6) - 01:44:900 (2,3) - 02:06:950 (5,6) - 03:24:125 (5,6) - I strongly suggest angling these. Similar to what Lanturn suggested to me (didn't read if he said the same thing to you, but- /lazy /runs!), the tiny repeat sliders should give a better indication of which side they're ending on. Because they're both straight, it can be confusing. /coming from someone who doesn't read approach circles. /hides. I remember when I could only play normals, and tiny repeats confused the crap out of me. I would crazy break combo on them. XD THEN I'D RAGE.
    02:11:085 (1) - 02:16:597 (1) - 02:22:110 (1) - All these spinners in normal, but breaks in insane? o:


I'M TOO TIRED TO CONTINUE. I TAKE WAY TOO LONG WITH MODDING, WHY. I'll mod insane tomorrow LATER TODAY (;_;), promise. xD

EDIT:
[Insane]
Okayyy, time for insane. I didn't find any problems during the test, though. xD
  1. What's the purpose of the timing sections at 3:00:40, 3:02:625, and 3:02:797? If they're not doing anything, delete them.
  2. The inherited timing section at 3:46:565 isn't snapped, so it's only affecting 03:46:864 (5). If it's your intention to have both of those smaller sliders at 2.0x slider velocity, resnap it to 03:46:520. And if you do want them at 2.0x, check that they end on the beat you want them to. (03:46:864 (5) - is on the 1/8.)
  3. 03:46:520 (4,5) - Isn't that unrankable...? Stacking sliders like that... Have to ask someone smarter than me. xD


Think that's all I can do;; Good luck, Dannyyyy. c:
Topic Starter
Danny

Spring Roll wrote:

hi~hi~ i come to mod your map~
Eazy
00:16:011 (4,1) - These two colors are a little similar( it means i cant recognize it the first time i played,i dont know what others think :) ) I'll see if anyone else has a problem with the colors.
00:21:524 - Add a note Done
01:56:614 (4) -
A small change about the shape Made it just a straight slider.
03:03:798 - I think kiai time is start from now :)I thought I changed it, I guess it didn't save... Fixed
03:22:747 (1) - A little ugly,change the shape like this Fixed.



Normal
00:25:658 (4) - Ctrl+G Done, good idea.
00:26:692 (5,6,7) - regular triangle plz Fixed
00:40:473 (1) - Making this slider parallel to 00:40:129 (4) - 's border makes the slider more beautiful
00:42:196 (3) - move it ↑ a little,the same height with 00:41:507 (2) -
00:44:607 (4) - move it ↓ a little,the same height with 00:44:263 (3) -
01:04:246 (6) - move it → a little Fixed ^
01:29:396 (4) - Also make it parallel to 01:30:430 (5) - 's border
01:40:077 (4) - the same,to 01:39:388 (2) - 's border
01:59:026 (3) - the same,to 01:58:681 (2) - 's border :)Hopefully I made the sliders you said better haha.
02:27:967 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - the hitsound is tooo loud(Especially,finish) Took out some of the finishes, as well as at the ending of the song.
03:03:798 - kiai time start from now Fixed.
03:07:243 (4) - Move to ( x=248 y=184 )
03:08:277 (5,6) - Move to ( x=388 y=188 ) Moved them
03:22:058 (4) - Ctrl+G Done.
03:22:747 (1,2,3,4) - Move the 1,make a square with these four notes Done.



Kanra's Hard
Very nice.Icant find any thing to mod ,XD
01:52:997 (4) - Ctrl+G
02:29:517 (3) - Move to (191 , 102)


Insane
00:15:322 (6,7,8) - The same shape plz. Copy and pasted the first one.
00:28:414 (1,2,3) - Distance Snap For some reason I was having a hard time getting the distance there, should be better now.
00:35:477 (2) - Reverse one time is okay
00:38:234 (2) - ↑
00:41:162 (3) - ↑ Fixed
00:50:637 (8) - Snap with the slider's head Didn't notice that :O Fixed.


Quite exciting song.Hope my mod helps :)
Thanks :) Very helpful mod.
Topic Starter
Danny

KuroKanra wrote:

Kay! Here I go, Danny! DON'T BRICK ME IF IT SOUNDS HARSH, I CAN'T MAKE IT SOUND NOT HARSH. /hides. /shot ahead of time.
I'm crying from how harsh this mod was, wow. T_T
[General]
  1. You shouldn't use 255,255,255 as a combo color. Kiai makes the hits flash, so it becomes blinding. Ahh, I saw that somewhere... Yes! This says not to. It's a rule. xD Just make it a little gray? O_O Will change it then.
  2. Insane's second kiai time ends at 2:07:984. Normal and easy's ends at 2:08:328. Decide which one you want, then change the other(s).
  3. Insane's last kiai time starts at 03:03:798. Normal and easy's starts at 3:03:109. Same as above.
  4. Your insane loves to be different, Danneh-boy! Insane's last kiai time ends at 3:25:848. Normal and easy's last kiai time ends at 3:25:503. Fiiix.
  5. Note: These are accurate as long as you didn't change easy's kiai when you fixed the distance spacing. XD Not checking again. /hides
  6. ...I just. don't want to bother you with this again, but. your BG, bro. IT'S ITTY BITTY. I couldn't find the same one as your current, but here, and here, and here, and lastly, here. All are similar to what you had at first (I think; my memory, GEH) but, are larger in size. (And name it "BG".) HUMOR ME, MAYBE?!

Kiai times should be the same now.
Think that's about it for that, checked the .osu files for inconsistencies... Meh. xD

[Easy]
  1. 01:01:834 (1) - This slider that repeats on the 1/2 sounds a little odd to me. Maybe simply this? Changed it.
  2. 01:40:077 (2,3,4,1,2) - This almost got me. xD After the couple 1/1 hits, waiting for the stack was a bit jarring. Just something to possibly consider removing from an easy, since I'd think to usually avoid stacks altogether in easy difficulties. xD NOT THAT I MAKE EASY DIFFS ALL THAT OFTEN. HUEHUEHUE. /shot. Made the 2 the proper distance from 1, not stacked anymore.
  3. 02:29:345 (4,5) - I find that this also sounds a little odd. 02:29:345 - & 02:29:689 - sound like they should have hits there, but 02:30:034 - doesn't to me.
I think I fixed it, took out the slider and put in a circle instead. O.o I'm not really sure what you mean.

[Normal]
  1. Comment: It wouldn't be terrible to add a few 1/2 hits in this diff. xD Not many, or many in a row, but. Considering my diff just a level above is constantly on the 1/2... Anyways. Not sure where I could add them, I'll get an idea eventually xD
  2. The distance spacing in this one is also a bit high... Maybe change it to 1.1 or 1.2? I think it'll work with the distance it is at now.
  3. 00:41:507 (2,3) - 01:03:557 (5,6) - 01:44:900 (2,3) - 02:06:950 (5,6) - 03:24:125 (5,6) - I strongly suggest angling these. Similar to what Lanturn suggested to me (didn't read if he said the same thing to you, but- /lazy /runs!), the tiny repeat sliders should give a better indication of which side they're ending on. Because they're both straight, it can be confusing. /coming from someone who doesn't read approach circles. /hides. I remember when I could only play normals, and tiny repeats confused the crap out of me. I would crazy break combo on them. XD THEN I'D RAGE. How would I angle these?
    02:11:085 (1) - 02:16:597 (1) - 02:22:110 (1) - All these spinners in normal, but breaks in insane? o: I added spinners in Insane and took them out here.

I'M TOO TIRED TO CONTINUE. I TAKE WAY TOO LONG WITH MODDING, WHY. I'll mod insane tomorrow LATER TODAY (;_;), promise. xD No rush, take your time. :P
mattdo44
Easy

02:09:362- The breaks aren't needed, they should be fine because of the HP Rate.

Hard

I think the AR should be dimmed down to 7 instead of 8.

Overall

The volume is just a little loud.
KonataN
mod time! .. after a long break xD
feel free to ignore anything xD
i only can tell what i dont like, i suck at making suggestions :p

Insane:

00:12:911 (1,2,3,4,5) - okay, the spacing is kinda irregular where a regular one would be nice. how about correcting the position with distance snap 1.4 as you did on the next combo?
00:15:322 (6,7,8) - do you think they look more pretty that way?:
120,264,15322,2,0,P|130:325|150:355,2,80,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,264,15839,2,0,P|258:320|284:344,2,80,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,264,16356,2,0,P|388:307|422:320,2,80,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

00:17:217 i already can hear the guitar so i'l recommend placing a circle here
00:22:730 ^same
00:33:410 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - please correct that shape that it looks regular and nice
00:36:855 (2,3,4,5,6) - this stream should go until 00:37:372 so please remove 00:37:372 (1) - and continue the stream
00:42:540 (12,13,14,15) - please do some minor improvements to the shape of the stream
00:42:885 (16) - please shape this slider that it fits to the shape of the stream
00:43:229 (1) - recommending a bigger spacing that its regular to the new combo of this object
00:44:091 (4) - how about rotating this slider that it looks better?

00:45:469 (2,3,4) - it kinda feels misplaced, it doesnt follow the music in any way. i think you should remove the triple
00:46:158 (1,2,3) - ^same
00:48:397 it shouldnt be empty here since the song started again
00:53:910 ^same
00:56:494 (4,5,6,7) - i find this stream is kinda unfitting.. the other 2 are fine imo
00:59:422 it shouldnt be empty here since the song started again
01:03:901 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - the drums keep ... drumming (D:) until 01:04:849, so the stream should.
01:15:271 (4,5) - please look that at least the value of y is the same
01:16:993 (4) - please put it on the same x coord. as 01:16:821 (3) - and correct the spacing to the other objects after that, too
01:19:233 (2) - maybe rotate it a little so it looks better?

01:19:750 (3,4,5,6) - it would be nice if you could get this pattern that theres no slider~circle overlap since it looks less sexy
01:22:850 (5) - this one doesnt fit to the other objects in its combo because its a higher difference of height than the others have..
01:36:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - the stream should continue until 01:37:924 and from 01:38:010 to 01:38:354 a slider would perfectly fit to the music
01:39:216 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the stream doesnt fit to the music at all
01:41:972 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^same
01:45:073 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe continue that stream until 01:46:278 and get rid of the slider?
01:49:379 (2,3,4) - the tripe doesnt fit to the music at all
01:50:068 (6,7,8) - ^same
01:50:757 (10,11,12) - ^same
01:51:791 it shouldnt be empty here since the song started again
02:07:122 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - the drums go until 02:08:242 and so should the stream
02:39:336 (5,6,7) - i personally dont like those 3stacks the whole part along. also they appear at not making sense times that it doesnt even follow the music
02:58:458 (2) - that repeatslider doesnt fit to the music
03:02:075 (9,10) - please put them on the same x coord. as 03:01:731 (7,8) -
03:02:420 (11) - if you add one repeat to the slider it fits better in the sound-pattern of the combo
03:13:961 (11) - i'd recommend removing the repeat and add a circle at 03:14:478
03:14:823 (1,2,3) - can you fix the both sliders overlapping?
03:24:125 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - the stream should continue until 03:25:417
03:28:087 (2,3) - it would be nice if you could get this pattern that theres no slider~circle overlap
03:30:671 (7) - please improve the angle to the stream and add one more repeat
03:36:528 (4) - would look better if it wasnt stacked in the sliders end
03:46:520 (4,5) - if you want them to be like this, at least make (5) visible

you see, fixing some patterns and making some shapes look more pretty is mainly what i'd do
also, look at Kanra's Hards hitsounding. you should learn a lesson from it ^-^
Topic Starter
Danny

KonataN wrote:

mod time! .. after a long break xD
feel free to ignore anything xD
i only can tell what i dont like, i suck at making suggestions :p

Insane:

00:12:911 (1,2,3,4,5) - okay, the spacing is kinda irregular where a regular one would be nice. how about correcting the position with distance snap 1.4 as you did on the next combo?
00:15:322 (6,7,8) - do you think they look more pretty that way?:
120,264,15322,2,0,P|130:325|150:355,2,80,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,264,15839,2,0,P|258:320|284:344,2,80,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,264,16356,2,0,P|388:307|422:320,2,80,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

00:17:217 i already can hear the guitar so i'l recommend placing a circle here
00:22:730 ^same
00:33:410 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - please correct that shape that it looks regular and nice
00:36:855 (2,3,4,5,6) - this stream should go until 00:37:372 so please remove 00:37:372 (1) - and continue the stream
00:42:540 (12,13,14,15) - please do some minor improvements to the shape of the stream
00:42:885 (16) - please shape this slider that it fits to the shape of the stream
00:43:229 (1) - recommending a bigger spacing that its regular to the new combo of this object
00:44:091 (4) - how about rotating this slider that it looks better?

00:45:469 (2,3,4) - it kinda feels misplaced, it doesnt follow the music in any way. i think you should remove the triple
00:46:158 (1,2,3) - ^same
00:48:397 it shouldnt be empty here since the song started again
00:53:910 ^same
00:56:494 (4,5,6,7) - i find this stream is kinda unfitting.. the other 2 are fine imo
00:59:422 it shouldnt be empty here since the song started again
01:03:901 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - the drums keep ... drumming (D:) until 01:04:849, so the stream should.
01:15:271 (4,5) - please look that at least the value of y is the same
01:16:993 (4) - please put it on the same x coord. as 01:16:821 (3) - and correct the spacing to the other objects after that, too
01:19:233 (2) - maybe rotate it a little so it looks better?

01:19:750 (3,4,5,6) - it would be nice if you could get this pattern that theres no slider~circle overlap since it looks less sexy
01:22:850 (5) - this one doesnt fit to the other objects in its combo because its a higher difference of height than the others have..
01:36:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - the stream should continue until 01:37:924 and from 01:38:010 to 01:38:354 a slider would perfectly fit to the music
01:39:216 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the stream doesnt fit to the music at all
01:41:972 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^same
01:45:073 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe continue that stream until 01:46:278 and get rid of the slider?
01:49:379 (2,3,4) - the tripe doesnt fit to the music at all
01:50:068 (6,7,8) - ^same
01:50:757 (10,11,12) - ^same
01:51:791 it shouldnt be empty here since the song started again
02:07:122 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - the drums go until 02:08:242 and so should the stream
02:39:336 (5,6,7) - i personally dont like those 3stacks the whole part along. also they appear at not making sense times that it doesnt even follow the music
02:58:458 (2) - that repeatslider doesnt fit to the music
03:02:075 (9,10) - please put them on the same x coord. as 03:01:731 (7,8) -
03:02:420 (11) - if you add one repeat to the slider it fits better in the sound-pattern of the combo
03:13:961 (11) - i'd recommend removing the repeat and add a circle at 03:14:478
03:14:823 (1,2,3) - can you fix the both sliders overlapping?
03:24:125 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - the stream should continue until 03:25:417
03:28:087 (2,3) - it would be nice if you could get this pattern that theres no slider~circle overlap
03:30:671 (7) - please improve the angle to the stream and add one more repeat
03:36:528 (4) - would look better if it wasnt stacked in the sliders end
03:46:520 (4,5) - if you want them to be like this, at least make (5) visible

you see, fixing some patterns and making some shapes look more pretty is mainly what i'd do
also, look at Kanra's Hards hitsounding. you should learn a lesson from it ^-^
Thank you. Great mod, I tried my best to fix the appearance of my streams, they should be better now. I took most of your changes and applied them, very helpful, thanks again.
KonataN
i appreciate that you found my mod helpful! star'd
Little
Hi
from in-game chat request

[General]
The way you drew your sliders is kinda messy. Don't add unnecessary slider points, and don't end your slider points with the corner points... it's weird
I listed them in Easy diff just to show you what I meant; Be sure to go through other diffs and fix this.

For the following, make sure to change in ALL diffs:
Since you didn't map the instrumental intro, I suggest you put offset at the beginning of the mapped part?
Offset should actually be 00:12:566 ! The first chord of the song is actually on beat 2, and the vocals start on beat 3. Here is proof: http://www.onlinesheetmusic.com/monkey-wrench-p389868.aspx
Add more tags?

[Easy]
HP Drain 2 to match Overall Difficulty
02:33:160 - Remove inheriting section
03:02:764 - Remove inheriting section
There are a lot of random slider points on your sliders that are not necessary to make the shape O.o Get rid of them. (Select the slider and right click on the squares of the unnecessary points) They are at:
00:16:011 (4) - 00:18:423 (1) - 00:23:936 (1) - 00:24:969 (2) - 00:24:969 (2) - 00:29:448 (1) - 00:31:171 (2) - 00:33:238 (4) - 00:48:742 (1) - 00:50:809 (1) - 00:56:666 (1) - 00:58:044 (2) - 01:17:338 (3) - 01:23:884 (3) - 01:29:052 (2) - 01:36:976 (5) - 01:40:077 (2) - 01:44:211 (1) - 01:55:925 (3) - 01:56:614 (4) - 01:58:337 (2) - 02:04:539 (3) - 02:05:572 (1) - 02:13:841 (1) - 02:21:076 (3) - 02:41:403 (5) - 02:56:907 (2) - 02:59:663 (2) - 03:09:310 (1) - 03:09:999 (2) - 03:27:570 (3) - 03:28:948 (1) - 03:30:327 (2) - 03:32:738 (2) - 03:36:873 (1) - 03:39:973 (1) - 03:41:352 (2) - 03:46:175 (1) -

Don't end your sliders with the red corner points? (Select the slider and right click on the red square at the END)
00:36:683 (3) - 00:45:296 (1) - 00:54:943 (2) - 01:01:834 (1) - 01:18:716 (4) - 01:27:329 (1) - 01:29:052 (2) - 01:43:178 (2) - 01:44:211 (1) - 01:48:690 (1) - 01:52:135 (1) - 01:54:203 (1) - 02:07:295 (3) - 02:10:051 (3) - 02:21:076 (3) - 02:54:151 (4) - 02:55:529 (1) - 02:58:285 (1) - 03:01:731 (2) - 03:04:487 (2) - 03:07:243 (2) - 03:11:377 (1) - 03:15:512 (2) - 03:24:470 (3) - 03:28:948 (1) - 03:30:327 (2) - 03:39:973 (1) - 03:41:352 (2) - 03:47:209 (2) - 03:48:587 (3) -

00:12:911 (1,3) - I think this would look a lot better if it was symmetrical across y-axis. Copy 00:12:911 (1) and paste it at 00:14:633 , then Ctrl+H Ctrl+G, and be sure to check spacing after if you decide to make this change.
00:31:171 (2) - You could make this slider round, and "blanket" around 1. Eg:

00:33:238 (4) - And if you change that ^, make this symmetry again
00:41:507 (3) - Just to show you, this shape is actually really easy to make. Just do it like this:

01:27:329 (1) - This doesn't really look good. Make the inner curves more round?
01:23:539 (2,3) - I strongly suggest you don't stack notes in Easy diff. It is confusing for beginners.
01:30:775 (4,5) - ^
01:31:808 (1,1) - Blanket this. Eg:

01:36:632 (4,5) - Don't stack
01:41:110 (4,5) - ^
01:43:178 (2,3,1) - Try to make this flow better
02:03:160 (1,3) - Try to change this. 1 is covering the head of 3, and this is Easy diff, so make it easier to see for beginners.
02:19:698 (2,3) - Make these the same shape?
02:27:278 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - So many circles. May be hard for beginners to keep up; Try to use some sliders in there.
02:45:538 (1,2) - Don't stack
02:50:017 (3,4) - ^
02:53:462 (3,4) - ^
03:12:756 (2,3) - ^
03:18:268 (5,6) - ^
03:27:226 (2,3) - ^
Why does basically everything have clap? O.o If you want that sound on every hit, just make it "normal-hitnormal.wav"
00:12:911 (1) - Maybe add finish on head of slider?
00:45:296 (1) - Remove whistles?
00:50:809 (1) - Remove whistles?
On a lot of notes here, you used all 3 hitsounds. This might be a bit excessive.
01:03:211 (1) - I think finish would be better here.
01:26:296 (1,2) - Be consistent. Use the slider like you did all the other times on this figure.
01:32:842 (1) - Add finish on head

[Normal]
02:33:160 - Remove inheriting section
03:02:764 - Remove inheriting section
Check all slider points that are like the ones i mentioned in Easy. Fix them.
00:13:944 (3) - Make this horizontal
00:14:978 (4,5) - Stacks are ok, but might be hard for beginners, just keep that in mind.
00:17:389 (1) - I suggest you only put whistle on 1st and 3rd hits of the slider. Same everywhere else you do this.
00:28:414 (1,2) - Keep it consistent, I suggest you use the same pattern for all of these.
00:39:095 (3,4) - Avoid doing this in lower difficulties! It hides the circle and is confusing. Please fix.
00:41:507 (2,3) - Try something else? This is hard for Normal because the player won't know how may times the sliders reverse.
00:44:607 (4,3) - Stack these perfectly
00:45:641 (1,4) - ^
00:57:700 (4) - Make the first segment of this slider perfectly vertical.
01:02:178 (1,2,3,4) - Though this is spaced evenly, it looks awkward. Change the visual pattern?
01:03:557 (5,6) - same as 00:41:507 (2,3)
01:31:808 (1,2) - Consistency
01:35:598 (1,2,3,4) - Try a different rhythm pattern? This isn't really what I hear in the music.
01:36:976 (5) - Try not to do this
01:42:488 (3,4) - Same as 00:39:095 (3,4)
01:44:900 (2,3) - Same as 01:03:557 (5,6)
02:06:950 (5,6) - ^
02:11:084 - Insert break!
02:16:597 - Insert break!
02:19:353 (7) - New Combo
02:22:109 - Insert break!
02:31:067 (1) - Remove New Combo
02:49:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try to make this shape perfect >< (and symmetrical around 0,0) Such that 02:51:739 (7) is stacked with 02:49:672 (1)
02:52:084 (1,2,3) - This doesn't flow. Try to flip 02:53:117 (2,3) horizontally; you will have to move things around a bit to fix spacing afterwards, but it will flow a lot nicer.
03:01:386 (1,1,1) - Remove New Combos. This is excessive, and unnecessary.
03:02:764 (3) - same as 01:36:976 (5)
03:17:234 (1,2,3) - Try to move these so that either 03:17:579 (2,3) are stacked with end of 03:16:201 (3) or not overlapping.
03:21:369 (3,4) - Spacing!
03:23:781 (4) - Stack with end of 03:22:058 (4)
03:24:125 (5,6) - Same as 02:06:950 (5,6). Additionally, they're not aligned ><
03:28:948 (1,2) - Spacing!
03:39:973 (1,2) - Try not to stack here, since the timing is different from all your other stacks.
03:41:352 (1,2) - ^
03:44:452 (1,2) - Same as 01:42:488 (3,4)
03:45:830 (1,2) - ^
03:50:309 (5) - Center this on grid?

[Kanra's Hard]
00:12:911 (1) - Add clap on head?
02:29:345 (2,3) - How about switching positions of these for more variation?
03:04:659 (4) - Make this slider round to blanket 03:04:315 (3) better?
Nice map :)
I especially like the middle section with the symmetry. It went really well with the musical style.

[Insane]
I would set HP Drain and Overall Difficulty to 7.
Check all slider points that are like the ones i mentioned in Easy. Fix them.
Since this is insane, you don't have to use distance snap.
Your use of clap is excessive. It sounds kinda bad on streams.
I'm not very good at the game, so I might not have much to say here. Nevermind
00:15:322 (6,7,8) - Try to make this look better by rotating each consecutive slider by -30 degrees:

00:17:389 (1,2) - Don't overlap. It doesn't look good
00:18:768 (2,3) - Awkward. Try something like this instead?:

00:22:902 (1,2) - Don't overlap
00:27:725 (7,8) - ^
00:28:414 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Make symmetry across y-axis as opposed to rotational.
00:45:813 (5,6) - I would not stack these.
01:05:968 (4,5) - Don't overlap
01:20:094 (5,6) - Don't overlap
01:26:812 (5) - Keep this in pattern with 01:26:123 (1,2,3,4)
01:27:329 (1,2) - These parallel sliders feel awkward like at 00:18:768 (2,3)
01:34:564 (7) - Curve the other way, it flows better:

01:41:972 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Why make a stack here when all others were streams?
01:58:337 (4,5,6) - Make rotational symmetry
02:37:269 (6,7,1) - These should be together like 02:34:513 (5,6,7) . Revise your combos.
To keep the pattern, the groups of 3 should be at: 02:34:513 (5,6,7) - 02:37:269 (6,7,1) - 02:40:025 (7,1,2) - 02:42:781 (1,2,3) - 02:45:538 (2,3,4) - 02:48:294 (3,4,5) - 02:51:050 (4,5,6) - 02:53:806 (5,6,7) -
I don't like how the pattern shifts the way you made it. It doesn't go with the music. Also, this section gets boring. Maybe try something else?
02:56:563 (4,5) - Awkward jump when you actually decreased spacing between 02:55:529 (2,3) . Change this.
02:56:046 (3,5) - Stack these perfectly. You can manually do this by turning off grid snap
03:01:731 (7,8,9,10,11) - Confusing.
03:17:062 (1,2,3) - Stack these perfectly
03:19:474 (6,7) - Center on grid
03:28:087 (2,3) - Don't overlap
03:30:671 (7) - Reverse one more time.
03:34:461 (1,2) - Stack ends perfectly
03:35:839 (3,4) - ^
Check all your hitsounds. It's very noisy.

Good Luck~
Topic Starter
Danny
On 2/6/14, I finished my remap of my Insane. I feel like it is much better than it was before. Also going to tune up the easy / normal since I have more experience now.
toybot
:D awesome, now that you've remapped the insane. And thanks for mod, I hope my suggestions were somewhat helpful also
DarkVortex
Heya :3
here we go :D
Some kiais aren't snapped. Check and fix them
  1. 00:19:508 (2) - One more reverse and shorten the next slider by one reverse. Also align it with 1.
  2. Maybe consider a pattern like this starting at 00:23:642 - ?
    http://puu.sh/6XgeC.jpg
  3. 00:29:499 (1) - This slider looks ugly
  4. 00:37:768 - It feels like here's a note missing
    00:40:524 - ^
  5. 00:46:726 (2,3) - Delete 2, move 3 to 00:46:726 - and add one reverse to it
  6. 00:52:238 (2,3) - Delete 3, shorten 2 to a 2/1 slider and add one reverse
  7. 00:54:650 (2) - 1 beat earlier?
  8. 00:57:751 (2) - Also 1 beat earlier?
  9. 01:41:506 (5,1,2) - Delete 5, move 1 and 2 one beat earlier and add a reverse to 2
  10. 01:44:263 (1) - Extend till it ends on the first beat. You have to delete 01:46:674 (1) - then though cause it's too close.
  11. 01:48:052 (2) - 1 beat later?
  12. 01:52:875 (2,3,1) - THIS looks ugly as hell
  13. 01:55:632 (2,3,4) - Reuse the pattern from 01:50:119 (2,3) - here. Sounds better than the 2 sliders.
  14. 02:09:413 (2,3) - Replace 2 by a circle and nudge 3 one beat earlier
  15. 02:14:926 - Add a circle here?
  16. 02:19:749 (2,3) - Move them 1 beat earlier and add a circle between them
  17. 02:37:320 (2,3,4) - Looks ugly, make the slider surround the circle perfectly
    02:40:076 (2,3,4) - ^
    02:48:344 (2,3,4) -
  18. 03:07:294 (2) - Replace by a circle
A lot of elements are not snapped here. Open AiMod and fix them yourself.
Also this is a map where you're playing mostly on every downbeat although the song has more variations (especially after 02:08:380 - until 02:33:186 - ). A few more patterns which are using 1/2s would give the map some fresh air ;)
  1. 00:33:633 (5) - Reverse sliders like this might be confusing for new players
    00:41:557 (2) - Same here
    01:37:027 (3) - ^
    01:44:951 (2) - ^
    02:07:001 (5) - ^
    03:24:176 (5) - ^
  2. 00:40:180 (4,1) - Inconsistent spacing
  3. 01:26:347 (1) - Nudge 2 grids down
  4. 01:42:539 (3) - Stack with the end of 01:41:161 (1) -
  5. 01:50:119 (4,5,6) - This pattern even confused me on my first play, maybe stack 5 and 6?
    01:55:632 (4,5,6) - ^
  6. 01:54:598 (1) - Move to (248,308) for a good symmetry
  7. 02:13:892 - Maybe use a pattern like this?http://puu.sh/6W1DY.jpg
  8. 02:22:160 (1) - Also use a slider here instead like you did before twice
  9. 02:30:257 - Consider a pattern like this? (dunno if it's too hard for a normal, decide yourself :P) http://puu.sh/6W1Xi.jpg
  10. 02:32:325 (6) - Inconsistent spacing
  11. 02:47:311 (1) - Stack with 02:45:934 (4) -
  12. 03:31:411 (1,3,5) - Stack more beautifully

    Really you can tune up the normal even more :P
Also some objects and the kiais aren't snapped here.
  1. 00:31:911 (7) - NC?
  2. 00:31:739 (6,7) - Stack more perfectly
  3. 00:32:255 (8) - Align this with 1 and 3 at something around (195,255)
  4. 01:24:279 (7) - NC?
  5. 01:29:792 (6) - NC?
  6. 01:35:304 (8) - NC?
  7. 01:59:077 (5,6) - Change order
  8. 03:30:034 - Add a circle here
    03:35:546 - ^
    03:41:058 - ^

    What about mapping something during 02:08:380 - until 02:22:161 - ? This part is too good to be left out (the normal diff doesn't have a break there as well)

    Good map after all :3
  1. 00:15:374 (1,2,3,4,5) - These sliders have different angles between them, maybe change it to something like this (took 00:15:374 (1) - and turned it by -10° every time): http://puu.sh/6VUSk.jpg
  2. Remove 00:18:130 (4) - ? It feels like theres a break in the music here.
    00:23:642 (6) - Same here
    01:21:524 (9,10) - ^ (maybe you can leave 10 like that but 9 doesn't fit at all)
    01:27:036 (5) - Remove (and if you left the 10 from above add a circle here 01:27:208 - )
    01:32:549 (10) - ^
  3. 00:18:819 (2) - Move to (137,180) to stack it with the end of 00:20:369 (8) -
  4. 00:28:810 (9) - Shorten this to a 1/2 slider and delete 00:29:327 (10) -
  5. 00:42:849 (8) - Reshape the stream so that it stacks with 00:41:816 (4) -
  6. 00:46:037 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Use the Polygon circle option for that (looks better imo)
    Same at 01:13:944 (3,4,5,6,1,2) -
  7. Patterns like 00:53:961 (1,2) - feel quite random because sometimes you use them when theres no need for them imo but you're not using it here 00:57:751 (6,7,8,9,10) - for example
    Same here 00:12:962 (1,2) - here 00:18:475 (1,2) - and here 00:29:499 (1,2) - (maybe there's a deeper reason but i didn't find it yet :( )
  8. 00:59:474 (11,1) - Stack with 00:58:096 (7) -
  9. 01:05:675 (3) - Stack with 01:04:297 (1) -
  10. 01:08:776 (6) - Stack with 01:07:915 (2) -
  11. 01:29:792 (1,2,3,4) - Liked this pattern :3 What about continuing it at 01:31:170 (5,6,7,8) - ?
  12. 01:43:229 (9) - Stack the end with 01:42:023 (3) -
  13. 01:46:157 (6) - Stack with 01:45:210 (3) - and slightly reshape the stream
  14. 02:02:350 (7) - Stack the end more perfectly with 02:00:972 (4) - and 02:03:212 (1) -
  15. 02:00:800 (3,4) - Change order
  16. 02:09:413 - Add circle here?
  17. 02:11:136 (1) - Divide this into 2 spinners like http://puu.sh/6VYeL.jpg
  18. 02:16:649 (1) - ^
  19. 02:21:989 (1) - ^ (and add a circle here after 02:24:745 - )
  20. 02:18:888 - You can add 2 triples here if you like
  21. 02:29:052 (4) - Remove
  22. 03:11:084 (7) - Stack with 03:09:878 (3) -
  23. 03:19:525 (10,11,12) - You never used a triple at a spot like this. Why here? (Try to keep it consistent although it's in the music)
  24. 03:22:282 (7) - Shorten it to a 1/2 slider
  25. 03:31:239 (6) - Stack with 03:30:206 (4) -

KonataN wrote:

look at Kanra's Hards hitsounding. you should learn a lesson from it ^-^
^this. A clap on like every note is a bit too much.
Also check out if everything is aligned a bit more beautifully.

Good luck with it man :)
samplefish
hi danny! from pm m4m :D

[General]
disable widescreen support (i think its for storyboards)
i personally hate the countdown.
kiai time inconsistent, personally i agree more with kuronoya's kiai time, but both are okay.


[Easy]
would be cool if NC was consistent through all diffs, but i think its not that big of a problem

00:46:898 (1,2) - better blanket
01:28:759 (2) - try
44,224,88759,2,0,B|88:204|88:204|119:269|191:269,1,160
01:36:683 (4) - perhaps move this to 01:36:511 (4) - would be cooler
01:44:952 (1) - end one white tick earlier for easier playability?
02:21:989 (1) - ^


[Normal]
i think NC could use some work, not very consistent with the insane, ie 00:18:819 (3) - is NC on insane but not here. also, 00:23:642 (1) - is not NC on insane yet but is NC here.

00:17:441 (6) - use approach circle for better blankets, like http://puu.sh/93GDj.jpg, into http://puu.sh/93GFj.jpg
00:18:302 (2,3) - little bit more spacing
01:54:081 (4) - i think stacking notes on ends in a normal is relatively tough
02:16:476 (1) - end on one white tick earlier, i dont think it sounds that much worse, plus its easier to get back into hitting notes with more time.
02:21:989 (1) - ^
02:30:602 (1) - could work, i dont think id NC those though.
02:41:799 (7) - NC
02:42:833 (1) - if ^, then take out NC
02:44:211 (4) - NC
02:45:934 (1) - if ^, then take out NC

[Kuronoya's Hard]
00:20:886 (8) - NC

[Insane]
00:18:130 (4) - i think itll give your map some nice flavor if you make this slider x.5 SV, something like this http://puu.sh/93Dry.jpg would be more fun to play and would fit the music more i think
00:26:399 (1,2,3,4) - would be cool if you blanket these better with a little more space between them? http://puu.sh/93DWn.jpg
00:27:777 (5) - feels a little out of place imo, this might be pretty cool. http://puu.sh/93Eo7.jpg
00:28:810 (9) - same thing as 00:18:130 (4) -
00:33:978 (2) - i think this is a better place to start the NC
00:42:936 (1) - dont think NC is necessary
00:48:449 (13) - i like the NC better here
01:03:608 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try using the convert slider to stream, itll look better. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/230127 this has some pretty good looking streams that look like yours
01:14:633 (1) - NC to fit the section right before it
01:32:549 (10) - same as 00:18:130 (4) -
01:45:640 (8) - better spot for NC
01:49:431 (4) - 185,57 01:49:603 (5) - 275,24, looks nicer
01:58:044 (2) - 256,244 01:58:216 (3) - 176,192 01:58:388 (4) - 176,96, looks nicer
02:05:968 (3,7) - would be cool if you could stack these
02:25:434 (4,8) - stack would be nice
03:24:865 (2) - NC here instead?

awesome mapset! godspeed.

Topic Starter
Danny

samplefish wrote:

hi danny! from pm m4m :D

[General]
disable widescreen support (i think its for storyboards)
i personally hate the countdown.
kiai time inconsistent, personally i agree more with kuronoya's kiai time, but both are okay. Used Kuronoya's


[Easy]
would be cool if NC was consistent through all diffs, but i think its not that big of a problem

00:46:898 (1,2) - better blanket Tried
01:28:759 (2) - try
44,224,88759,2,0,B|88:204|88:204|119:269|191:269,1,160
Done
01:36:683 (4) - perhaps move this to 01:36:511 (4) - would be cooler It sounds better for the drums how it is
01:44:952 (1) - end one white tick earlier for easier playability? Done
02:21:989 (1) - ^ Done


[Normal]
i think NC could use some work, not very consistent with the insane, ie 00:18:819 (3) - is NC on insane but not here. also, 00:23:642 (1) - is not NC on insane yet but is NC here.

00:17:441 (6) - use approach circle for better blankets, like http://puu.sh/93GDj.jpg, into http://puu.sh/93GFj.jpg Done, nice tip
00:18:302 (2,3) - little bit more spacing Done
01:54:081 (4) - i think stacking notes on ends in a normal is relatively tough Ill watch newer players attempt and see how it goes
02:16:476 (1) - end on one white tick earlier, i dont think it sounds that much worse, plus its easier to get back into hitting notes with more time. Done
02:21:989 (1) - ^ Done
02:30:602 (1) - could work, i dont think id NC those though. Done
02:41:799 (7) - NC Done
02:42:833 (1) - if ^, then take out NC ^
02:44:211 (4) - NC Done
02:45:934 (1) - if ^, then take out NC ^

[Kuronoya's Hard]
00:20:886 (8) - NC Done

[Insane]
00:18:130 (4) - i think itll give your map some nice flavor if you make this slider x.5 SV, something like this http://puu.sh/93Dry.jpg would be more fun to play and would fit the music more i think Thats actually a really neat idea!
00:26:399 (1,2,3,4) - would be cool if you blanket these better with a little more space between them? http://puu.sh/93DWn.jpg Done
00:27:777 (5) - feels a little out of place imo, this might be pretty cool. http://puu.sh/93Eo7.jpg Done
00:28:810 (9) - same thing as 00:18:130 (4) - I wanted to change it a little bit, ill see
00:33:978 (2) - i think this is a better place to start the NC Done
00:42:936 (1) - dont think NC is necessary Done
00:48:449 (13) - i like the NC better here Done
01:03:608 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try using the convert slider to stream, itll look better. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/230127 this has some pretty good looking streams that look like yours I did use convert slider for that i believe, hmm ill take a look at that map
01:14:633 (1) - NC to fit the section right before it Done
01:32:549 (10) - same as 00:18:130 (4) - Done
01:45:640 (8) - better spot for NC Done
01:49:431 (4) - 185,57 01:49:603 (5) - 275,24, looks nicer Done
01:58:044 (2) - 256,244 01:58:216 (3) - 176,192 01:58:388 (4) - 176,96, looks nicer Done
02:05:968 (3,7) - would be cool if you could stack these Done
02:25:434 (4,8) - stack would be nice Done
03:24:865 (2) - NC here instead? Done

awesome mapset! godspeed. Thanks man been hard at work <3

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