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wowaka - World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix) [Osu|Taiko]

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Asagi
bubble pop bubble pop bubble QUALIFIED unqualified bubble pop bubble pop

rinse and repeat
Aka
actually i have no idea why you all are complaining about "why is it not qualifiyed back yet" instead of trying to do what i asked to

Aka wrote:

the diff is better than it was but imo it needs some additional modding on rhythm in some parts and hitsounding cause i am not really sure about it. gather 1-2 quality mods and it should be pretty much enough. since the whole diff is remapped, gathering more mods shouldnt hurt and would be better.
talking about Easy diff.


anyway im rechecking atm, so this post will be edited


neonat's

・01:15:173 (3,4) - this rhythm does feel weird cause before and after youve been using another rhythm for such parts: 00:35:875 (3) - 00:41:489 (3) - 01:09:559 (3) - 02:33:770 (3) - or 00:47:103 (3,4) - 00:52:717 (3,4) - 01:12:366 (3,4) - 02:44:998 (3,4,5) - . i'd really you to use one of those since they play more comfortable and follows the long sound 01:15:700 -
・01:24:296 (4) - minor but touches the hp bar a bit lol


insane

・04:15:875 (5) - barely touches the hp bar but still.


ai's

・00:12:016 (1,2,3) - any reason for a note on the blue tick? tbh i hear nothing there and 1/2 rhythm feels better, since you have 00:13:419 (1) - 00:14:823 (1) - 00:16:051 (9,1) - 00:17:630 (1) - 00:19:033 (1) - 00:20:437 (1) - 1/2. i understand this 00:23:068 (1,2,3) - but dont the first one
・00:56:226 (1,2,3) - the 1.80x is pretty much unexpectable, i do disagree with such pattern without marking the sv change :\ i'd recommend to place nc on 00:56:577 (2) -
・01:36:226 (1) - 03:06:051 (1) - i guess finisher would fit there well? D:
・03:21:489 (1) - some naziminor stuff about circle barely touching the hp bar, just to make it neat


so, poke me when ez applied more mods
neonat
Errrrrr I guess if there is no other actual mods by others for easy by Saturday I could give my take on it too
guineaQ
because I can.

just simple check on Easy
no kds for sake of world pce

[Easy]
00:43:244 (2,3) - Inconsistent DS
02:11:314 (2) - I would line this up vertically

yeah I think that's it
aigoh
Hi Mira! As I promised on my queue.

[General]
*It’s Been a Year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zpfihjNhyI #dedication
*I only scanned through the hitsounds, seeing that other modders have modded it before, several times. They all were consistent and sounded good in all difficulties.

[insane]
* HP drain rate is the same as Al’s Extra. Maybe cut it down to 6.5?

[*Timing/composition/flow]
*00:23:068 (8) – move this to 117, 320 for better flow

[*Aesthetics/ patterns]
* 01:47:805 (2) –02:30:612 (5) - 04:11:314 (4) – (Just my opinion. I’m a very paranoid person lol) These are VERY close to the HP bar, that rather or not the note touches the HP bar could become subjective. I suggest moving these down a bit so that it’s CLEARLY not touching the HP bar.
* 02:02:893 (1) - 02:27:805 (5) - 03:20:612 (5) - 03:46:051 (4) - 04:15:875 (5) - these do touch the HP bar. You must change this.


[Al’s Extra]
I can’t testplay this b/c I’m noob. Just one suggestion:
[*Aesthetics/ patterns]
*03:21:489 (1) – 03:32:366 (6) - touches HP bar
Topic Starter
Mira-san

mangocurry wrote:

Hi Mira! As I promised on my queue.

[General]
*It’s Been a Year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zpfihjNhyI #dedication
*I only scanned through the hitsounds, seeing that other modders have modded it before, several times. They all were consistent and sounded good in all difficulties.

[insane]
* HP drain rate is the same as Al’s Extra. Maybe cut it down to 6.5?

[*Timing/composition/flow]
*00:23:068 (8) – move this to 117, 320 for better flow

[*Aesthetics/ patterns]
* 01:47:805 (2) –02:30:612 (5) - 04:11:314 (4) – (Just my opinion. I’m a very paranoid person lol) These are VERY close to the HP bar, that rather or not the note touches the HP bar could become subjective. I suggest moving these down a bit so that it’s CLEARLY not touching the HP bar.
* 02:02:893 (1) - 02:27:805 (5) - 03:20:612 (5) - 03:46:051 (4) - 04:15:875 (5) - these do touch the HP bar. You must change this.


[Al’s Extra]
I can’t testplay this b/c I’m noob. Just one suggestion:
[*Aesthetics/ patterns]
*03:21:489 (1) – 03:32:366 (6) - touches HP bar
Changed everything except the HPDR. noep. :P I also did the mod for AI (I have his permission).

Thanks! ;)
neonat
No longer touches the HP bar and rhythm changed

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Topic Starter
Mira-san
Everything is updated. :|
Artavia
Go-Go, Ranked! lol


[Fr33z3R's Easy]

00:41:840 (4) - I think symmetry with (2) slider better.

01:37:279 (2,4,2,4,2,4,2,4) - Add Clap

01:49:910 (4) - Remove slider-whistle

01:51:665 (1) - I can't understand your intention. If I were you, will not be used the spinner.

03:01:490 (2,5) - same as 01:37:279

03:21:490 (1) - same as 01:51:665

03:23:244 - 03:45:349 - I think break time is a bad idea. add patterns.
Ciyus Miapah
as your request:

[easy]
00:07:805 (3,5,3) - need some slider art in here
00:40:086 (1,2) - i like this http://puu.sh/csAIq/b356fc4c36.jpg
00:51:665 (2,4) - just little curve like this, i think straight slider is boring http://puu.sh/csALQ/9d7c271800.jpg
00:54:121 (1,2) - then fix overlap in circle 1, and just do the same for slider 2
01:27:805 (1,2,3) - add whistle in head (for slider 3, add whistle to all notes, including slider tick)
01:47:454 (1,2,3,4) - since its nice vocal song, im suggest to make interesting slider in here: ex -> http://puu.sh/csB8f/a17816aba4.jpg
03:17:279 (1,2,3,4) - ^ do the same since this is Copy paste
02:57:630 (1,2,3) - im just listening hitsound in this notes, same like 01:27:805 (1,2,3) . i think use whistle is better
03:22:893 - 03:42:542 - i think i like to add pattern in here, cause Slow part is the best in easy diff. but is up to you
i conclude this map is good, but some pattern too repetitive, ah but its okay for beginner players

[extra]
00:40:612 (3,4) - why i didnt like this??
01:07:454 (5,6,7) - this is so plain slider pattern, hard to read, and i think better this pattern like this http://puu.sh/csBHk/070ac05bde.jpg
01:09:823 (2,3) - i dont understand this, you just overmapping this map before and you undermapping this part?
01:14:033 (2,3) - ^
^im just suggest try some slider pattern who related to that circle pattern, so some player will be understand

01:24:296 (6,7) - maybe try this pattern, is up to you http://puu.sh/csBSB/f20588c810.jpg (same like 01:26:226 (1) - pattern)
01:44:296 (6) - better make two sliders that make this
01:45:524 (7,8) - strong triplet in here
01:58:068 (5,6,7) - lol
02:39:647 (2,3) - still dont understand :D
02:40:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - better this pattern than 02:39:647 (2,3) pattern
02:46:665 (2,3) - ^
03:01:138 - circle here (fucking nazi)
im just tell some suggestion, just eat my mod and spew it if you dont like it xD

just rank this map, people is boring see this map at top page on pending maplist. /me runs
neonat
Why did you post that on my thread lol. You know we're pals for life >.< I won't leave you :c
Lach
This was unqualified to fix a single hitsound. What the fuck, guys?

p/3386873
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Lach wrote:

This was unqualified to fix a single hitsound. What the fuck, guys?

p/3386873
it seems that people wanted to see more changes to the map. jajajaja
neonat
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396,220,253419,6,0,P|344:276|236:248,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,192,254472,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,288,254823,2,0,P|176:272|219:202,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,128,255524,2,0,P|155:95|81:105,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,144,256226,86,0,P|-2:200|33:267,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,308,256928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,364,257279,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,316,257630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,257980,12,4,259033,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Fort wrote:

as your request:

I have freezer's permission
[easy]
00:07:805 (3,5,3) - need some slider art in here | lolz
00:40:086 (1,2) - i like this http://puu.sh/csAIq/b356fc4c36.jpg | dun
00:51:665 (2,4) - just little curve like this, i think straight slider is boring http://puu.sh/csALQ/9d7c271800.jpg | applied on one slider only fr variation
00:54:121 (1,2) - then fix overlap in circle 1, and just do the same for slider 2 | wot
01:27:805 (1,2,3) - add whistle in head (for slider 3, add whistle to all notes, including slider tick) | mm done
01:47:454 (1,2,3,4) - since its nice vocal song, im suggest to make interesting slider in here: ex -> http://puu.sh/csB8f/a17816aba4.jpg | changed
03:17:279 (1,2,3,4) - ^ do the same since this is Copy paste | did not change this for some variation in style
02:57:630 (1,2,3) - im just listening hitsound in this notes, same like 01:27:805 (1,2,3) . i think use whistle is better | ^
03:22:893 - 03:42:542 - i think i like to add pattern in here, cause Slow part is the best in easy diff. but is up to you | meh lolz
i conclude this map is good, but some pattern too repetitive, ah but its okay for beginner players | ahahahah

[extra]
I ALSO HAVE AI'S PERMISSION. HUE
00:40:612 (3,4) - why i didnt like this?? | fixd the distance lol
01:07:454 (5,6,7) - this is so plain slider pattern, hard to read, and i think better this pattern like this http://puu.sh/csBHk/070ac05bde.jpg | I think its not really hard to read, but your idea is nice too.
01:09:823 (2,3) - i dont understand this, you just overmapping this map before and you undermapping this part? | fixed this part
01:14:033 (2,3) - ^ | ^
^im just suggest try some slider pattern who related to that circle pattern, so some player will be understand

01:24:296 (6,7) - maybe try this pattern, is up to you http://puu.sh/csBSB/f20588c810.jpg (same like 01:26:226 (1) - pattern) | eeeeeee
01:44:296 (6) - better make two sliders that make this | I bet AI wouldn't want too many 1/4s
01:45:524 (7,8) - strong triplet in here | nani #wibu
01:58:068 (5,6,7) - lol | has been part of the map since day 1 (remap)
02:39:647 (2,3) - still dont understand :D | it's intended and suggested by a lot of ppl orz
02:40:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - better this pattern than 02:39:647 (2,3) pattern | ^
02:46:665 (2,3) - ^ | ^
03:01:138 - circle here (fucking nazi) | nani
im just tell some suggestion, just eat my mod and spew it if you dont like it xD | ehehehehe

just rank this map, people is boring see this map at top page on pending maplist. /me runs
Thanks!

Artavia wrote:

Go-Go, Ranked! lol


[Fr33z3R's Easy]

00:41:840 (4) - I think symmetry with (2) slider better.

01:37:279 (2,4,2,4,2,4,2,4) - Add Clap

01:49:910 (4) - Remove slider-whistle

01:51:665 (1) - I can't understand your intention. If I were you, will not be used the spinner.

03:01:490 (2,5) - same as 01:37:279

03:21:490 (1) - same as 01:51:665

03:23:244 - 03:45:349 - I think break time is a bad idea. add patterns.
Applied all except the break parts and something. ya.

Thank you!


guineaQ wrote:

because I can.

just simple check on Easy
no kds for sake of world pce

[Easy]
00:43:244 (2,3) - Inconsistent DS
02:11:314 (2) - I would line this up vertically

yeah I think that's it
dun all lolz

Aka wrote:

actually i have no idea why you all are complaining about "why is it not qualifiyed back yet" instead of trying to do what i asked to

Aka wrote:

the diff is better than it was but imo it needs some additional modding on rhythm in some parts and hitsounding cause i am not really sure about it. gather 1-2 quality mods and it should be pretty much enough. since the whole diff is remapped, gathering more mods shouldnt hurt and would be better.
talking about Easy diff.


anyway im rechecking atm, so this post will be edited


neonat's

・01:15:173 (3,4) - this rhythm does feel weird cause before and after youve been using another rhythm for such parts: 00:35:875 (3) - 00:41:489 (3) - 01:09:559 (3) - 02:33:770 (3) - or 00:47:103 (3,4) - 00:52:717 (3,4) - 01:12:366 (3,4) - 02:44:998 (3,4,5) - . i'd really you to use one of those since they play more comfortable and follows the long sound 01:15:700 -
・01:24:296 (4) - minor but touches the hp bar a bit lol


insane

・04:15:875 (5) - barely touches the hp bar but still.


ai's

・00:12:016 (1,2,3) - any reason for a note on the blue tick? tbh i hear nothing there and 1/2 rhythm feels better, since you have 00:13:419 (1) - 00:14:823 (1) - 00:16:051 (9,1) - 00:17:630 (1) - 00:19:033 (1) - 00:20:437 (1) - 1/2. i understand this 00:23:068 (1,2,3) - but dont the first one
・00:56:226 (1,2,3) - the 1.80x is pretty much unexpectable, i do disagree with such pattern without marking the sv change :\ i'd recommend to place nc on 00:56:577 (2) -
・01:36:226 (1) - 03:06:051 (1) - i guess finisher would fit there well? D:
・03:21:489 (1) - some naziminor stuff about circle barely touching the hp bar, just to make it neat


so, poke me when ez applied more mods
everything applied for AI also insane
Aka
okay uwu

bubbled ~
Frim4503
hope this will be last bubble :)
and next time is ranked :D
guineaQ
Let's move this out of pending4ever, like for real this time
Topic Starter
Mira-san

guineaQ wrote:

Let's move this out of pending4ever, like for real this time

Frim4503 wrote:

hope this will be last bubble :)
and next time is ranked :D
Hopefully. :>

Otherwise:
theramdans
omgomgogogmogmgomg
last bubble please
aaaaaaaaaa uheuheuehe <3333333
Dreamcast
Seems you did a complete restart on this map. I really liked the way it was mapped before tho (I still own that old file hahah)
Hope this gets ranked soon! I loved this song back then.

So gl :3
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Dreamcast wrote:

Seems you did a complete restart on this map. I really liked the way it was mapped before tho (I still own that old file hahah)
Hope this gets ranked soon! I loved this song back then.

So gl :3
Oh really? I wanted to have the very first version or atleast a very early version of the map. Please share it with me heheheheh.
Hinsvar
Yo; was told by TicClick to take a look at this so yeah.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>Fr33z3R's Easy
  1. 00:04:998 (4,5,1) - Make them look like this or this so this pattern will look tidier and have a better flow?
  2. 00:28:858 (4,1) - Swap NC? I'm pretty sure the current combo pattern is a little inconsistent.
  3. 00:40:437 (2,4) - Try to make (2)'s head not touch (4)'s tail? That'd look nicer.
  4. 01:20:787 (2,3) - 1.25x DS? It's admittedly just a bit inconsistent from the usual 1.3x, but it'd be nice to fix it.
  5. 01:46:051 (3,4) - Don't you think they look too close to each other, compared to 01:47:103 (4,1)?
  6. 02:04:296 (1,2) - The blanket can be made more perfect; maybe something like this?
  7. 02:12:717 (1,2,3) - What's with the little spacing inconsistencies here lol
  8. 03:57:980 (2,3) - Same case as 01:46:051 (3,4).
>neonat's Normal
  1. 00:08:858 (5,1,2) - Try to make the blanket here perfect to the point where (5) is perfectly in the middle of (1,2)?
  2. 00:29:209 - No object? The instrument here is stronger compared to 00:29:384; it'd be weird to skip such a strong sound.
  3. 00:55:524 (3,4,5) - Make something like this so they'll look neater?
  4. 01:48:858 (3) - Not quite sure about this slider... It might confuse typical Normal players, you know.
  5. 02:09:910 (1,2) - Make them look more symmetrical for design reasons?
  6. 03:07:454 (5,6,7) - Try making them positioned like this? Looks less cluttered and nicer to see.
  7. 03:17:980 (3) - Same as 01:48:858 (3).
  8. 03:27:103 (4,5) - What's with the sudden spacing decrease?
  9. 03:42:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - The SB is still gray here... What's with the green combo color?
  10. 03:57:103 (3,4) - Again, consider making the blanket better? It looks like it can still be improved a lot.
  11. 04:07:805 (1) - Try rotating 75 degrees clockwise then move to (439,214) for a better flow from 04:07:103 (7)?
>Hard
  1. 00:07:103 - Consider mapping this since there's a noticeable percussion instrument sound? (Applies to similar parts. Dunno why; they just sound weird if skipped.)
  2. 00:16:752 (3,4) - Try to make them have the same curve? It feels weird to see one more curved than the other...
  3. 00:44:823 (3,4) - lol spacing inconsistency
  4. 00:57:980 (5,6) - ^ (Maybe you should check your entire map for stuff like this. Minor spacing inconsistencies that are not necessary might lead to the design looking a bit wonky, just saying.)
  5. 02:56:577 (2) - Not interested in adding a repeat and make this closer to 02:56:928 (3)? Would fit the instruments better that way.
  6. 04:18:331 (1) - ^ (Similar.)
>Insane
  1. 00:09:559 (2) - Make it like this? More comfortable to play this way.
  2. 00:35:875 (1,2,3) - I don't really recommend this rhythm since it can confuse players and make them think that the rhythm probably looks like this. Try adding a circle at 00:36:051 to make a triplet if you want. (Applies to similar cases.)
  3. 00:56:051 (3) - NC this to indicate the change of spacing (and to denote that the pattern is completely different from 00:55:524 (1,2) with all the 1/4 jumps)?
  4. 01:07:454 (7,8,9) - Are you sure these 1/4 jumps are going to be easily readable? Their existence in the Insane diff is fine, but their positioning is a little questionable. Also, I can't really see any sense on the clap hitsounding, honestly... Try removing the claps on the blue ticks and add one at 01:07:630 instead?
  5. 01:29:910 (6,7,8,9) - I am really unsure about this. There are nothing that can be mapped on the ticks (except on the first white tick of these two beats), and they just don't fit, especially if you compare the hitsounding with the relatively silent music... Please consider changing them to something way less intense, at least.
  6. 01:33:244 (7) - Don't you think a whistle is a bit too much for this part?
  7. 01:53:244 (2,3) - Try not to stack them if possible? I'm not sure if it's just me or something, but it just feels awkward, as if there was supposed to be a triplet here due to the stacking...
  8. 02:37:279 (7,8,9) - Actually, this is quite the difficulty jump if you compare this to Hard. Seriously reconsider this and maybe reduce the spacing by a lot at the very least.
  9. 02:59:735 (1,2,3,4) - Same as 01:29:910 (6,7,8,9).
  10. 03:37:279 (2) - This can be hard to see because it's stacked below 03:36:577 (1) and it's quite blending with the background. Maybe remove this and add a repeat to 03:36:577 (1) instead?
  11. 03:42:542 - 03:45:261 - Why are the objects here colored not with the gray colours? They just don't synchronize well with the background here you know...
>AI's Extra
  1. What's with the spacing inconsistency for triplets, like 00:21:665 (1,2,3), 00:22:366 (5,6,7), and 00:26:577 (3,4,5), for example? The music doesn't really offer anything new to justify such a variance. It's still okay to keep them, I guess, it just feels a little unfitting.
  2. 00:03:244 (1,2) - Not sure about the usage of a 1/2 slider here... That just felt pretty unnecessary and awkward, honestly. Try just making a 1/1 slider at 00:03:244 - 00:03:595?
  3. 00:04:121 (1,2) - Similar thing as the suggestion above. Consider just making a 1/2 slider at 00:04:121 - 00:04:296.
  4. 00:56:226 (1) - NC this to indicate the velocity change?
  5. 03:22:893 - 03:44:647 - Uh, try replacing the green color here with another gray one, like the other diffs? Definitely goes well with the SB, IMO.
  6. 04:18:858 (2) - Flip this slider horizontally for a better flow here?
...I'm honestly not even sure on rebubbling this. I believe the map can still be improved a little. Get 1-2 detailed mod(s) or something like that, then get back to me for another bubble (sorry guys ;_;).

Good luck on the way! 8-)
Myxo

Mira-san wrote:

guineaQ wrote:

Let's move this out of pending4ever, like for real this time

Frim4503 wrote:

hope this will be last bubble :)
and next time is ranked :D
Hopefully. :>

Otherwise:
Seems like it is not :(
Wow, it takes ages to rank this mapset... You can try to call me when it's bubbled again, finally all issues should be fixed.
-Anonymous-_old_1
awesome map i hope it will be ranked soon :3
WillTai
[General]
Great flow and patterns!

[Hard]

00:07:103 - Perhaps add a single circle here to map the beat that appears. A possible placement is on top of the start of the slider that appears immediately afterwards.
00:09:910 - Same as above
00:11:314 - ^

02:37:454 (4,5) - Replace with a repeating slider

02:47:805 (1,2,3,4,5) - - Possible opportunity to utilize a jump pattern. Done by removing (2) and (3) and replacing them with single circles on the white tick. Delete (4) as well for consistent spacing.

03:21:489 (3,4,5) - Split the slider (3) into two individual circles and convert (5) into a circle. Reason for doing so is to highlight the dun dun dun sound. Possible jump pattern.

Keep up the great work! :D
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Desperate-kun wrote:


Seems like it is not :(

Wow, it takes ages to rank this mapset... You can try to call me when it's bubbled again, finally all issues should be fixed.

Aaaaanyway..

I will do the mods FOR ALL THE DIFFS except neonat's Normal. *I have AI and Fr33z3R's permission, and I am modding this since they can't mod it or just don't have the time to do so.

Hinsvar wrote:

Yo; was told by TicClick to take a look at this so yeah.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>Fr33z3R's Easy
  1. 00:04:998 (4,5,1) - Make them look like this or this so this pattern will look tidier and have a better flow?
  2. 00:28:858 (4,1) - Swap NC? I'm pretty sure the current combo pattern is a little inconsistent.
  3. 00:40:437 (2,4) - Try to make (2)'s head not touch (4)'s tail? That'd look nicer.
  4. 01:20:787 (2,3) - 1.25x DS? It's admittedly just a bit inconsistent from the usual 1.3x, but it'd be nice to fix it.
  5. 01:46:051 (3,4) - Don't you think they look too close to each other, compared to 01:47:103 (4,1)?
  6. 02:04:296 (1,2) - The blanket can be made more perfect; maybe something like this?
  7. 02:12:717 (1,2,3) - What's with the little spacing inconsistencies here lol
  8. 03:57:980 (2,3) - Same case as 01:46:051 (3,4).
Applied all except the (2) (4) tail. hao2doothat.

>Hard
  1. 00:07:103 - Consider mapping this since there's a noticeable percussion instrument sound? ( Applies to similar parts. Dunno why; they just sound weird if skipped.)
  2. 00:16:752 (3,4) - Try to make them have the same curve? It feels weird to see one more curved than the other...
  3. 00:44:823 (3,4) - lol spacing inconsistency
  4. 00:57:980 (5,6) - ^ (Maybe you should check your entire map for stuff like this. Minor spacing inconsistencies that are not necessary might lead to the design looking a bit wonky, just saying.)
  5. 02:56:577 (2) - Not interested in adding a repeat and make this closer to 02:56:928 (3)? Would fit the instruments better that way.
  6. 04:18:331 (1) - ^ (Similar.)
Done everything. Big(?) spacing changes here. Checked the spacing for all notes except the ones from kiai time heauehau

>Insane
  1. 00:09:559 (2) - Make it like this? More comfortable to play this way.
  2. 00:35:875 (1,2,3) - I don't really recommend this rhythm since it can confuse players and make them think that the rhythm probably looks like this. Try adding a circle at 00:36:051 to make a triplet if you want. (Applies to similar cases.)
  3. 00:56:051 (3) - NC this to indicate the change of spacing (and to denote that the pattern is completely different from 00:55:524 (1,2) with all the 1/4 jumps)?
  4. 01:07:454 (7,8,9) - Are you sure these 1/4 jumps are going to be easily readable? Their existence in the Insane diff is fine, but their positioning is a little questionable. Also, I can't really see any sense on the clap hitsounding, honestly... Try removing the claps on the blue ticks and add one at 01:07:630 instead?
  5. 01:29:910 (6,7,8,9) - I am really unsure about this. There are nothing that can be mapped on the ticks (except on the first white tick of these two beats), and they just don't fit, especially if you compare the hitsounding with the relatively silent music... Please consider changing them to something way less intense, at least.
  6. 01:33:244 (7) - Don't you think a whistle is a bit too much for this part?
  7. 01:53:244 (2,3) - Try not to stack them if possible? I'm not sure if it's just me or something, but it just feels awkward, as if there was supposed to be a triplet here due to the stacking...
  8. 02:37:279 (7,8,9) - Actually, this is quite the difficulty jump if you compare this to Hard. Seriously reconsider this and maybe reduce the spacing by a lot at the very least.
  9. 02:59:735 (1,2,3,4) - Same as 01:29:910 (6,7,8,9).
  10. 03:37:279 (2) - This can be hard to see because it's stacked below 03:36:577 (1) and it's quite blending with the background. Maybe remove this and add a repeat to 03:36:577 (1) instead?
  11. 03:42:542 - 03:45:261 - Why are the objects here colored not with the gray colours? They just don't synchronize well with the background here you know...
Done everything except the before-kiai 1/4 sliders and the 00:36:138 (2,3) - patterns. For the 1/4s meh it's like the last challenge for the diff lolz. I don't know how I will map the latter part as there are people who would prefer triplets or this. (the style I used here is similar to the original World's End Dancehall map created by NatsumeRin.)

>AI's Extra
  1. What's with the spacing inconsistency for triplets, like 00:21:665 (1,2,3), 00:22:366 (5,6,7), and 00:26:577 (3,4,5), for example? The music doesn't really offer anything new to justify such a variance. It's still okay to keep them, I guess, it just feels a little unfitting.
  2. 00:03:244 (1,2) - Not sure about the usage of a 1/2 slider here... That just felt pretty unnecessary and awkward, honestly. Try just making a 1/1 slider at 00:03:244 - 00:03:595?
  3. 00:04:121 (1,2) - Similar thing as the suggestion above. Consider just making a 1/2 slider at 00:04:121 - 00:04:296.
  4. 00:56:226 (1) - NC this to indicate the velocity change?
  5. 03:22:893 - 03:44:647 - Uh, try replacing the green color here with another gray one, like the other diffs? Definitely goes well with the SB, IMO.
  6. 04:18:858 (2) - Flip this slider horizontally for a better flow here?
Applied all except the NC mod and the triplet spacing. IMO the SV change is not noticeable until 00:56:577 (1) - . Yeah

...I'm honestly not even sure on rebubbling this. I believe the map can still be improved a little. Get 1-2 detailed mod(s) or something like that, then get back to me for another bubble (sorry guys ;_;).

Good luck on the way! 8-)
Plz. rebubble quik. :^)

WillTai wrote:

[General]
Great flow and patterns!

[Hard]

00:07:103 - Perhaps add a single circle here to map the beat that appears. A possible placement is on top of the start of the slider that appears immediately afterwards.
00:09:910 - Same as above
00:11:314 - ^

02:37:454 (4,5) - Replace with a repeating slider

02:47:805 (1,2,3,4,5) - - Possible opportunity to utilize a jump pattern. Done by removing (2) and (3) and replacing them with single circles on the white tick. Delete (4) as well for consistent spacing.

03:21:489 (3,4,5) - Split the slider (3) into two individual circles and convert (5) into a circle. Reason for doing so is to highlight the dun dun dun sound. Possible jump pattern.

Keep up the great work! :D
All done except the last 2 suggestions (the first 3 were in Hinsvar's mod). For the 5th suggestion, I just don't feel like it lol. For the 6th one, converting the slider into circles can confuse the players about when to hit the note on the blue tick. lolz.

Thanks!
Ciyus Miapah
rank this fucking map pls XDD
NachtHemdPlaya
i cri evrytim
Pho
Free mod on my own decision. Pls let this make this map move on to rank ~

Trifle: Just small things you might want to consider.
Preference: Just my humble opinion on stuff.
Written in bold: Fix this up as soon as possible.

[Fr33zer's Easy]
  1. Note density/pressure is relatively high at times. I mean it's fine if it were for a normal diff, but new players might get problems even if it goes well with the rhythm. Better ask a BAT (Desperate?) about this again.
  2. 00:00:787 (1,2,3) - Flow is not very good here, please ctrl+j slider 2 and rearrange for a better flow
  3. 00:04:998 (4,5,1,2) - This whole part here flows really bad for an easy diff, and it also overlaps. You need to make it play more smoothly. Here's a suggestion: http://puu.sh/cGN7G/570fcc5b30.jpg
  4. 00:09:209 (5,1) - NC at 5 already? Is more consistent.
  5. 00:23:244 (1) - Maybe ctrl+h this slider so it has a better transition to the next slider.
  6. 00:24:647 (2,3,1) - Strange, why does this not lie on the y-axis? Would look neater.
  7. 00:40:437 (2,4) - Haow2avoid overlap: http://puu.sh/cGO5D/0d7b64cc54.jpg
  8. 01:18:682 (4,1) - This needs to be blanketed better: http://puu.sh/cGNXT/261702dd5e.jpg
  9. 01:27:454 - Add Finish HS here.
  10. 01:34:121 (5,1) - Just how to make it flow better: http://puu.sh/cGOgW/51a21f30d9.jpg
  11. 01:40:437 (3,4,1) - Minor spacing error here.
  12. 01:47:454 - Aren't you missing a finish HS here? Can hear a gong in the background
  13. 02:04:296 (1,2) - Spacing error, this should not be 1.0xDS but 1.3xDS, which you used consistently through the map. Please fix.
    Also why is 02:04:296 (1) - ending on the blue tick? I think that's random mistake, should be in the white tick.
  14. 02:58:331 (2,3) - This somehow flows weird, Make it smoother. Example: http://puu.sh/cGOQX/6ac55e139b.jpg
  15. 03:06:051 - Finish HS for the gong? Also at 03:17:279 -
  16. 03:54:823 (4,1,2) - Try to make it more symmetrical to the y axis
  17. 03:56:577 (1,3) - Just ctrl+j slider 1 and reposition it a bit. http://puu.sh/cGP8s/cde0ee0a64.jpg
  18. Nice one, I like the symmetry here. Still feel that it needs more polishment. :|
[Normal]
  1. Better blankets at the following sections would be nice: 00:38:331 (2,3)
  2. 02:31:489 (4,1) - Could be more parallel. :V
  3. 03:57:103 (3,4) - Better blanket between both sliders http://puu.sh/cGPUd/837a57e835.jpg
  4. 04:14:472 (2,3,4,1) - That circle pattern is pretty broken, please make it look neater: Copypaste 04:14:823 (3) - and rotate it by 120/240°, that should do the trick.
  5. This diff's almost fine to go.
[Hard]
  1. 00:31:840 (1) - You miss NC here.
  2. 00:33:770 (3,4) - Make three into a backslider, has a better synergy to the music: http://puu.sh/cGQwh/c3bfe54ffd.jpg
  3. There are some minor spacing errors, would be neat if you could fix some of them: 00:36:577 (3,4,5) - 00:42:191 (2) - 01:34:121 (4,5,6) - 00:51:314 (1,2,3) - 01:11:665 02:07:454 (2,3,4) - 02:45:700 (2,3,4) - 03:01:665 (5,6,7) - 03:03:945 (4,5,6,7) - (or it's intended? idk) 03:57:454 (4,5,1) -
  4. 01:06:752 (1,2,3,4) - Lol, that synergy to the music xD Would still recommend to make it move to the left-side as that's the position of the next slider.
  5. 01:13:595 (8,1) - Imperfect diamond pattern, would be great if you could fix it.
  6. 01:39:033 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Idk why you suddenly decided to go with 1.2xDS instead of 1.3xDS in here, but you should better fix it.
  7. 01:44:823 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^
  8. 01:46:051 - The next three combo's are filled with pure 1/2 beat sliders. Is a bit repititive, so might be nice if you can arrange it with some circles inbetween.
  9. 01:50:261 (1,2) - Idk about these sliders... there reverse arrow don't end on a beat that is relatable to the music :/ Same with 03:20:086 (1,2) -
  10. 01:50:261 (1,2,3,4,5) - So what DS where you using here? It differs quite a lot in this combo, try to keep it consistent.
  11. 02:23:244 (1,2,3) - Preference: In comparison to the 1/1 beat circle'streams' this has a very high DS, considering that the music is still quiet at this part. I'd map them with the same DS.
  12. 03:14:648 (3,4,5,6,7) - I'd rather go with a more oval flow here: http://puu.sh/cGQQO/ff96ffe438.jpg
  13. 03:44:998 (6,1) - Check the stack here again.
  14. Just minor issues here, otherwise this is good to go. :)
Insane diffs will be done later, just wait for it~
Topic Starter
Mira-san
As seen on OWC 2014 :^)

neonat

Hinsvar wrote:

Yo; was told by TicClick to take a look at this so yeah.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>neonat's Normal
  1. 00:08:858 (5,1,2) - Try to make the blanket here perfect to the point where (5) is perfectly in the middle of (1,2)? adjusted in a way
  2. 00:29:209 - No object? The instrument here is stronger compared to 00:29:384; it'd be weird to skip such a strong sound. 00:29:384 is still the highlight main beat of this part, will keep to this tune
  3. 00:55:524 (3,4,5) - Make something like this so they'll look neater? for the sake of 00:54:998 (2,4,5)
  4. 01:48:858 (3) - Not quite sure about this slider... It might confuse typical Normal players, you know. it was for the repetitive vocal but I'll consider
  5. 02:09:910 (1,2) - Make them look more symmetrical for design reasons? I overlapped them equally didn't I?
  6. 03:07:454 (5,6,7) - Try making them positioned like this? Looks less cluttered and nicer to see. k
  7. 03:17:980 (3) - Same as 01:48:858 (3).^
  8. 03:27:103 (4,5) - What's with the sudden spacing decrease? wasn't intended
  9. 03:42:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - The SB is still gray here... What's with the green combo color? k then
  10. 03:57:103 (3,4) - Again, consider making the blanket better? It looks like it can still be improved a lot. edited the shapes
  11. 04:07:805 (1) - Try rotating 75 degrees clockwise then move to (439,214) for a better flow from 04:07:103 (7)? already changed the flow from before

Pho wrote:

Free mod on my own decision. Pls let this make this map move on to rank ~

Trifle: Just small things you might want to consider.
Preference: Just my humble opinion on stuff.
Written in bold: Fix this up as soon as possible.

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  1. Better blankets at the following sections would be nice: 00:38:331 (2,3) I think I'll keep this
  2. 02:31:489 (4,1) - Could be more parallel. :V ^
  3. 03:57:103 (3,4) - Better blanket between both sliders http://puu.sh/cGPUd/837a57e835.jpg fixed from previous
  4. 04:14:472 (2,3,4,1) - That circle pattern is pretty broken, please make it look neater: Copypaste 04:14:823 (3) - and rotate it by 120/240°, that should do the trick. can't really do much due to the constant spacing
  5. This diff's almost fine to go.
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396,220,253419,6,0,P|344:276|236:248,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,192,254472,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,288,254823,2,0,P|176:272|219:202,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,128,255524,2,0,P|155:95|81:105,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,144,256226,86,0,P|-2:200|33:267,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,308,256928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,364,257279,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,316,257630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,257980,12,4,259033,0:0:0:0:
Stefan

Mira-san wrote:

As seen on OWC 2014 :^)

That's cool! :D


On-Topic:
FrzR
I'd really hope this would get ranked by the end of the year. ;w;)
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Pho wrote:

Free mod on my own decision. Pls let this make this map move on to rank ~

Trifle: Just small things you might want to consider.
Preference: Just my humble opinion on stuff.
Written in bold: Fix this up as soon as possible.

[Fr33zer's Easy]
  1. Note density/pressure is relatively high at times. I mean it's fine if it were for a normal diff, but new players might get problems even if it goes well with the rhythm. Better ask a BAT (Desperate?) about this again.
  2. 00:00:787 (1,2,3) - Flow is not very good here, please ctrl+j slider 2 and rearrange for a better flow
  3. 00:04:998 (4,5,1,2) - This whole part here flows really bad for an easy diff, and it also overlaps. You need to make it play more smoothly. Here's a suggestion: http://puu.sh/cGN7G/570fcc5b30.jpg
  4. 00:09:209 (5,1) - NC at 5 already? Is more consistent.
  5. 00:23:244 (1) - Maybe ctrl+h this slider so it has a better transition to the next slider.
  6. 00:24:647 (2,3,1) - Strange, why does this not lie on the y-axis? Would look neater.
  7. 00:40:437 (2,4) - Haow2avoid overlap: http://puu.sh/cGO5D/0d7b64cc54.jpg
  8. 01:18:682 (4,1) - This needs to be blanketed better: http://puu.sh/cGNXT/261702dd5e.jpg
  9. 01:27:454 - Add Finish HS here.
  10. 01:34:121 (5,1) - Just how to make it flow better: http://puu.sh/cGOgW/51a21f30d9.jpg
  11. 01:40:437 (3,4,1) - Minor spacing error here.
  12. 01:47:454 - Aren't you missing a finish HS here? Can hear a gong in the background
  13. 02:04:296 (1,2) - Spacing error, this should not be 1.0xDS but 1.3xDS, which you used consistently through the map. Please fix.
    Also why is 02:04:296 (1) - ending on the blue tick? I think that's random mistake, should be in the white tick.
  14. 02:58:331 (2,3) - This somehow flows weird, Make it smoother. Example: http://puu.sh/cGOQX/6ac55e139b.jpg
  15. 03:06:051 - Finish HS for the gong? Also at 03:17:279 -
  16. 03:54:823 (4,1,2) - Try to make it more symmetrical to the y axis
  17. 03:56:577 (1,3) - Just ctrl+j slider 1 and reposition it a bit. http://puu.sh/cGP8s/cde0ee0a64.jpg
  18. Nice one, I like the symmetry here. Still feel that it needs more polishment. :|
Applied all in behalf of Fr33z3R. Yeah.

[Hard]
  1. 00:31:840 (1) - You miss NC here.
  2. 00:33:770 (3,4) - Make three into a backslider, has a better synergy to the music: http://puu.sh/cGQwh/c3bfe54ffd.jpg
  3. There are some minor spacing errors, would be neat if you could fix some of them: 00:36:577 (3,4,5) - 00:42:191 (2) - 01:34:121 (4,5,6) - 00:51:314 (1,2,3) - 01:11:665 02:07:454 (2,3,4) - 02:45:700 (2,3,4) - 03:01:665 (5,6,7) - 03:03:945 (4,5,6,7) - (or it's intended? idk) 03:57:454 (4,5,1) -
  4. 01:06:752 (1,2,3,4) - Lol, that synergy to the music xD Would still recommend to make it move to the left-side as that's the position of the next slider.
  5. 01:13:595 (8,1) - Imperfect diamond pattern, would be great if you could fix it.
  6. 01:39:033 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Idk why you suddenly decided to go with 1.2xDS instead of 1.3xDS in here, but you should better fix it.
  7. 01:44:823 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^
  8. 01:46:051 - The next three combo's are filled with pure 1/2 beat sliders. Is a bit repititive, so might be nice if you can arrange it with some circles inbetween.
  9. 01:50:261 (1,2) - Idk about these sliders... there reverse arrow don't end on a beat that is relatable to the music :/ Same with 03:20:086 (1,2) -
  10. 01:50:261 (1,2,3,4,5) - So what DS where you using here? It differs quite a lot in this combo, try to keep it consistent.
  11. 02:23:244 (1,2,3) - Preference: In comparison to the 1/1 beat circle'streams' this has a very high DS, considering that the music is still quiet at this part. I'd map them with the same DS.
  12. 03:14:648 (3,4,5,6,7) - I'd rather go with a more oval flow here: http://puu.sh/cGQQO/ff96ffe438.jpg
  13. 03:44:998 (6,1) - Check the stack here again.
  14. Just minor issues here, otherwise this is good to go. :)
Applied all except some intended spacing 'errors' and the unrelatable sliders found during the kiai time. :D

Insane diffs will be done later, just wait for it~ I'm waiting :D :o
blaterwolf

Mira-san wrote:

As seen on OWC 2014 :^)

rip i wanna see the video ;w;
Pho
Allright, 2nd part. Sry for making you wait, I had stuff to do and people were bugging me already. >.<
NO KDS PLS.

[Insane]
  1. There were some jumps that didn't make musical sense to me... Well, stil your decision, feel free to deny everything i throw at you lol:
  2. 00:05:173 (6,7) - This jump is not really justified as 00:04:998 (5,6) - sounds pretty much the same and is lower spaced. Use the same 1.2xDS distance here, the jump between 00:05:524 (7,8) - is fine though.
  3. 00:08:507 (6,7) - 1.2xDS here?
  4. 00:12:717 (3,4,5,1) - Map 3-4-5 with the same 1.2xDS to add some consistency, the jump between 5-1 is fine. http://puu.sh/cU671/4ad48c918b.jpg
  5. 00:29:559 (3,4) - Blanket these.
  6. 00:23:945 (3,4,1) - You could add more distance between 3-4, it's just as strong as the transition between 4-1
  7. 00:37:630 (3,4) - Jump doesn't make musical sense here to me either, lower the distance here and add a bigger jump between 4-5 http://puu.sh/cU6xc/bf50e9852e.jpg
  8. 00:40:437 (2,3) - That jump isn't justified either, lower DS here to 1.2x DS. Just a suggestion: http://puu.sh/cU6Cy/363fe7eb7d.jpg
  9. 00:43:244 (2,3) - Same as above: http://puu.sh/cU6It/a5bad45b99.jpg
  10. 00:59:384 (5,1) - There should be a jump here just like at 00:57:980 (5,1) - http://puu.sh/cU6Oa/b1ef927d3d.jpg
  11. 01:11:665 (6,1,2) - Try to blanket these.
  12. 01:26:051 (10) - Make a 1/2 beat slider here.
  13. 01:27:805 (1) - Switch this with a circle, there's no beat on the blue tick where it ends.
  14. 01:35:173 (2,3) - There should be a jump here for the strong vocal?
  15. 01:41:314 (4,5) - Same as above.
  16. 01:56:226 (2,3) - Lower DS to 1.2x here, there's no implication for a jump here.
  17. 01:57:980 (5,6) - ^
  18. 02:27:805 (5,1) - Are you following the vocal here? If yes, then this 3/4 doesn't work out as planned as the vocal actually goes 1/2 beats here. End this slider on the red tick already.
  19. 02:32:366 (1,2,3) - Same spacing here? It's the same note.
  20. 02:48:770 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - This is pretty much overmapped, try this out? http://puu.sh/cU7B1/77d14b5021.jpg
  21. 02:53:331 - You miss a beat for the vocal here.
  22. 03:50:963 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapped. Deleting 03:51:051 (2) - should be fine.
  23. Yeah... so that's it. Spacing is pretty weird at times I must say, but all in all, this is pretty fun to play. :)
[AI's Insane]
  1. 00:36:226 (2) - Switch this off with two circles is better to play.
  2. 00:43:244 (3) - This 3/4 sliders follows nothing in the music, it doesn't fit to the drum either. End it on the red tick already.
  3. 01:17:191 (5) - Delete this circle? It feels pretty much overmapped.
  4. 01:56:665 (3) - This slider starts on nothing in the track, that's strange. oO
  5. 01:58:682 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds pretty much like your own creation, since I can't resemble this pattern in the music. oO
  6. I still feel uncomfortable, there are so many triples and quintruples/mini-streams that feel so additional to this track (same with the Insane diff). Oh well, I'll se what the BATs will say about this, still fun to play :)
I pray this map will go to ranks at the end of the year, GOOD LUCK!!!!!!! \(>w<)/
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Pho wrote:

Allright, 2nd part. Sry for making you wait, I had stuff to do and people were bugging me already. >.<
NO KDS PLS.

[Insane]
  1. There were some jumps that didn't make musical sense to me... Well, stil your decision, feel free to deny everything i throw at you lol:
  2. 00:05:173 (6,7) - This jump is not really justified as 00:04:998 (5,6) - sounds pretty much the same and is lower spaced. Use the same 1.2xDS distance here, the jump between 00:05:524 (7,8) - is fine though.
  3. 00:08:507 (6,7) - 1.2xDS here?
  4. 00:12:717 (3,4,5,1) - Map 3-4-5 with the same 1.2xDS to add some consistency, the jump between 5-1 is fine. http://puu.sh/cU671/4ad48c918b.jpg
  5. 00:29:559 (3,4) - Blanket these.
  6. 00:23:945 (3,4,1) - You could add more distance between 3-4, it's just as strong as the transition between 4-1 | I'll keep what I have because I think it's enough ehehe.
  7. 00:37:630 (3,4) - Jump doesn't make musical sense here to me either, lower the distance here and add a bigger jump between 4-5 http://puu.sh/cU6xc/bf50e9852e.jpg
  8. 00:40:437 (2,3) - That jump isn't justified either, lower DS here to 1.2x DS . Just a suggestion: http://puu.sh/cU6Cy/363fe7eb7d.jpg | Done, but did a few tweaks.
  9. 00:43:244 (2,3) - Same as above: http://puu.sh/cU6It/a5bad45b99.jpg | Changed this part a little bit.
  10. 00:59:384 (5,1) - There should be a jump here just like at 00:57:980 (5,1) - http://puu.sh/cU6Oa/b1ef927d3d.jpg
  11. 01:11:665 (6,1,2) - Try to blanket these.
  12. 01:26:051 (10) - Make a 1/2 beat slider here.
  13. 01:27:805 (1) - Switch this with a circle, there's no beat on the blue tick where it ends.
  14. 01:35:173 (2,3) - There should be a jump here for the strong vocal? | Can't find a better location to move the circle.
  15. 01:41:314 (4,5) - Same as above. | ^
  16. 01:56:226 (2,3) - Lower DS to 1.2x here, there's no implication for a jump here | Keeping the one I have. I like the jumps here ahaha.
  17. 01:57:980 (5,6) - ^ | ^
  18. 02:27:805 (5,1) - Are you following the vocal here? If yes, then this 3/4 doesn't work out as planned as the vocal actually goes 1/2 beats here. End this slider on the red tick already.
  19. 02:32:366 (1,2,3) - Same spacing here? It's the same note. | Can't change the distance as I like the snapping, but I think I can do it. I'll try to reconsider.
  20. 02:48:770 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - This is pretty much overmapped, try this out? http://puu.sh/cU7B1/77d14b5021.jpg
  21. 02:53:331 - You miss a beat for the vocal here.
  22. 03:50:963 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapped. Deleting 03:51:051 (2) - should be fine.
  23. Yeah... so that's it. Spacing is pretty weird at times I must say, but all in all, this is pretty fun to play. :)
Done everything else without comments. :D

[AI's Insane]

*AI's permission ripperino*

  1. 00:36:226 (2) - Switch this off with two circles is better to play. | Hm...
  2. 00:43:244 (3) - This 3/4 sliders follows nothing in the music, it doesn't fit to the drum either. End it on the red tick already.
  3. 01:17:191 (5) - Delete this circle? It feels pretty much overmapped.
  4. 01:56:665 (3) - This slider starts on nothing in the track, that's strange. oO | Since this is AI's style I can't change much hehe.
  5. 01:58:682 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds pretty much like your own creation, since I can't resemble this pattern in the music. oO | ^
  6. I still feel uncomfortable, there are so many triples and quintruples/mini-streams that feel so additional to this track (same with the Insane diff). Oh well, I'll se what the BATs will say about this, still fun to play :)
ik that feel. All suggestions w/o comments are applied.

I pray this map will go to ranks at the end of the year, GOOD LUCK!!!!!!! \(>w<)/
Thanks! :D Hopefully it DOES get ranked this year. (but 1st January 2015 would look cool too) jk
Hinsvar
Looks like I and Mira-san owe Pho a few hours of sleep.

>Fr33z3R's Easy
  1. 00:29:209 (2,4) - Sure you don't want to make them look more symmetrical...?
  2. 00:30:612 (4) - No NC? The combo is too long here.
  3. 00:41:840 (4,1,2,3,4) - Uh, the spacing is a little inconsistent. Just a little, but it's visible.
  4. 02:59:033 (3,1) - ^
  5. 03:15:876 (3,4,1) - This pattern looks a little weird due to the space between the objects...
>neonat's Normal
  1. 00:55:524 (3,4,5) - I still can't really see myself bubbling this map with a pattern like this, honestly. Try playing around with each object's position. I'm sure you'll eventually get a pattern that works well while keeping 00:54:998 (2) in consideration.
  2. 02:09:910 (1,2) - Well uh you didn't really do this right... Make stuff like this?
  3. 02:28:507 - Missing clap?
  4. 02:31:314 - ^
  5. 02:39:735 - ^ (Just realized that you didn't really place a lot of claps even on appropriate spots... Are you sure with this?)
  6. 02:47:805 (4,5) - Try blanketing if possible?
  7. 03:07:454 (5,6,7) - Umm, you didn't really do my previous suggestion.
  8. 03:12:542 - What's with the clap here?
  9. 03:13:770 (6,1) - Try to avoid the overlap on the tail? I can't see why should you do this...
  10. 03:18:156 - Again, what's with the clap? I don't think there's anything special or any possibility of making an unique hitsound pattern here...
  11. 03:21:489 (5,6) - They are truly awkward to hit because there is nothing at 03:21:840, and the hitsound is just too weak in general. Increase the hitsound and try mapping 03:21:752 and 03:22:016 please.
  12. 04:16:226 (1,2,3,4) - Make them more smoothly curved for a better flow?
>Hard
  1. 00:32:717 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - This can be really hard to read due to the stacking, combined with the spacing at 00:33:419 (2,3) and the emptiness of 00:34:384. Consider making something else.
  2. 01:06:051 (3,1) - Uh, these notes touch each other. Just saying.
  3. 01:18:331 - Why do you use a whistle here? Doesn't really make sense IMO.
  4. 02:26:051 (6) - NC to indicate the increase in spacing?
  5. 02:44:998 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I can't really see any reason for the spacing to be this inconsistent...
  6. 03:08:858 - 03:10:612 - Are the constant whistles here necessary, actually...? I don't think they're needed, especially since the music is similar to the first kiai anyway.
  7. 03:20:086 (1,2) - If possible, try making (1) not touch (2)'s head and tail so they'll look neater?
>Insane
  1. 00:25:173 (2) - Just asking: Does it need to be placed this far to make a jump at 00:24:647 (1,2,3)?
  2. 01:23:244 (1) - Ctrl+G? Makes more sense, IMO.
  3. 01:29:910 (6,7,8,9) - Even after reviewing this pattern, I still can't agree with its usage. It just doesn't make sense at all, dude... May I also say that there is actually nothing mapped here in AI's diff, which is supposed to be harder, and that actually fits the song better? (Now, please don't use the "but-it's-my-style" card; that's irrelevant to this since we're talking about difficulty curve.) (Applies to 02:59:735 (1,2,3,4).)
  4. 02:58:595 - Sure you don't want to map this to make a triplet? Makes more sense IMO.
  5. 03:55:875 (3) - NC to indicate the spacing change? It goes well with the music, too.
>AI's Extra
  1. 00:06:928 (3,4,5) - Might as well make the spacing consistent due to the music, no?
  2. 00:56:226 (4) - Nope dude, the velocity change is already pretty noticeable. It also goes well with the music, so yeah, you know what to do. Sorry if this comes out as forcing, but this seriously needs some kind of sign.
  3. 01:58:068 (5,6,7) - Are you sure this is going to be easily readable, even though this is in an Extra diff...?
  4. 02:55:173 (3,4,5,6) - I... understand that this is an Extra diff. But are you sure about the playability of this pattern? Try finding some testplayers to try this diff, especially on this part. This one looks a little too overboard.
  5. 02:56:577 (5,6,7,8) - ^
  6. 03:21:752 (2) - Place this farther from 03:21:489 (1,3)? Maybe 2.2x DS or something so it'd be easier for players to read that the gap between the three circles are 3/4 beats?
  7. 03:44:296 (3,4,5,6,7) - The spacing is inconsistent while playing due to the stacking effect at 03:44:647 (7,1). Move the two objects to (232,104) so this won't happen.
  8. 04:05:524 (5,6) - Just saying that these notes touch each other. Might want to move 04:05:700 (6,7,8,9,10) a little more to the lower-right.
  9. 04:18:858 (2) - Uh no, you didn't horizontally flip this. Why?
Bold and red texts are pretty much must-fix and highly-recommended stuff, and thus it'd be a bad idea to let them be as is due to their questionable nature. I'll let you pass if you give a reasonable explanation as to why you reject them, though.

I personally still have a little uncertainty about bubbling this even after everything I've mentioned is fixed, but it's probably just me. Hopefully.

Let me know once you handled everything.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Hinsvar wrote:

Looks like I and Mira-san owe Pho a few hours of sleep.

>Fr33z3R's Easy
  1. 00:29:209 (2,4) - Sure you don't want to make them look more symmetrical...?
  2. 00:30:612 (4) - No NC? The combo is too long here.
  3. 00:41:840 (4,1,2,3,4) - Uh, the spacing is a little inconsistent. Just a little, but it's visible.
  4. 02:59:033 (3,1) - ^
  5. 03:15:876 (3,4,1) - This pattern looks a little weird due to the space between the objects...
>Hard
  1. 00:32:717 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - This can be really hard to read due to the stacking, combined with the spacing at 00:33:419 (2,3) and the emptiness of 00:34:384. Consider making something else.
  2. 01:06:051 (3,1) - Uh, these notes touch each other. Just saying.
  3. 01:18:331 - Why do you use a whistle here? Doesn't really make sense IMO.
  4. 02:26:051 (6) - NC to indicate the increase in spacing?
  5. 02:44:998 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I can't really see any reason for the spacing to be this inconsistent...
  6. 03:08:858 - 03:10:612 - Are the constant whistles here necessary, actually...? I don't think they're needed, especially since the music is similar to the first kiai anyway.
  7. 03:20:086 (1,2) - If possible, try making (1) not touch (2)'s head and tail so they'll look neater?
>Insane
  1. 00:25:173 (2) - Just asking: Does it need to be placed this far to make a jump at 00:24:647 (1,2,3)?
  2. 01:23:244 (1) - Ctrl+G? Makes more sense, IMO.
  3. 01:29:910 (6,7,8,9) - Even after reviewing this pattern, I still can't agree with its usage. It just doesn't make sense at all, dude... May I also say that there is actually nothing mapped here in AI's diff, which is supposed to be harder, and that actually fits the song better? (Now, please don't use the "but-it's-my-style" card; that's irrelevant to this since we're talking about difficulty curve.) (Applies to 02:59:735 (1,2,3,4).)
  4. 02:58:595 - Sure you don't want to map this to make a triplet? Makes more sense IMO.
  5. 03:55:875 (3) - NC to indicate the spacing change? It goes well with the music, too.
>AI's Extra
  1. 00:06:928 (3,4,5) - Might as well make the spacing consistent due to the music, no?
  2. 00:56:226 (4) - Nope dude, the velocity change is already pretty noticeable. It also goes well with the music, so yeah, you know what to do. Sorry if this comes out as forcing, but this seriously needs some kind of sign.
  3. 01:58:068 (5,6,7) - Are you sure this is going to be easily readable, even though this is in an Extra diff...?
  4. 02:55:173 (3,4,5,6) - I... understand that this is an Extra diff. But are you sure about the playability of this pattern? Try finding some testplayers to try this diff, especially on this part. This one looks a little too overboard.
  5. 02:56:577 (5,6,7,8) - ^
  6. 03:21:752 (2) - Place this farther from 03:21:489 (1,3)? Maybe 2.2x DS or something so it'd be easier for players to read that the gap between the three circles are 3/4 beats?
  7. 03:44:296 (3,4,5,6,7) - The spacing is inconsistent while playing due to the stacking effect at 03:44:647 (7,1). Move the two objects to (232,104) so this won't happen.
  8. 04:05:524 (5,6) - Just saying that these notes touch each other. Might want to move 04:05:700 (6,7,8,9,10) a little more to the lower-right.
  9. 04:18:858 (2) - Uh no, you didn't horizontally flip this. Why?
Bold and red texts are pretty much must-fix and highly-recommended stuff, and thus it'd be a bad idea to let them be as is due to their questionable nature. I'll let you pass if you give a reasonable explanation as to why you reject them, though.

I personally still have a little uncertainty about bubbling this even after everything I've mentioned is fixed, but it's probably just me. Hopefully.

Let me know once you handled everything.
Applied everything. Thanks!
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