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supercell - Hakushu Kassai Utaawase (TV Size) [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
mintong89
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年6月26日 at 18:53:40

Artist: supercell
Title: Hakushu Kassai Utaawase (TV Size)
Source: Katanagatari
Tags: Sword Opening koeda No_Gu buhei ryo
BPM: 104
Filesize: 20497kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. buhei's Insane (4.84 stars, 285 notes)
  2. Easy (2.34 stars, 92 notes)
  3. Gu's Insane (4.89 stars, 224 notes)
  4. Hard (4.66 stars, 205 notes)
  5. Normal (4.18 stars, 146 notes)
  6. Taiko Muzukashii (4.45 stars, 230 notes)
  7. Taiko Oni (4.89 stars, 389 notes)
Download: supercell - Hakushu Kassai Utaawase (TV Size)
Download: supercell - Hakushu Kassai Utaawase (TV Size) (no video)
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这首歌节奏怎么有点像千本桜啊...
Buhei's Insane by Buhei
Gu's Insane by No_Gu
16/5/13 - resized BG.
ED of Katanagatari here
10nya
first~~!
buhei
orz
JUDYDANNY
hello. come from "#modreqs". I'm a moding beginner for Taiko mode :)
I am glad if it becomes helpful.
moding only taiko
[Taiko Muzukashii]
SPOILER
00:33:727 -add d or k
01:25:463 -add d or k

00:35:703 (40) - d
00:41:990 - add d
00:45:583 - add k
00:48:457 - add d

01:05:164 (128) - add k
01:05:523 (130) - add d
01:09:834 (149) - add d
01:10:553 (152) - add d
01:10:912 (154) - add k
01:12:349 (157) - add k?
01:15:583 (169) - add d?
[Taiko Oni]
SPOILER
↓add
00:12:389 - k
00:14:365 - d
00:14:815 - k
00:18:680 - k
00:20:342 - k
---------------
00:28:876 (23) - k

00:29:415 (27,28) - k,d
00:30:134 (32) - k
00:30:314 (33,34,35) - dd,k

00:36:960 (88) - add k
00:37:320 (89) - D? nnn i think d...
00:47:739 (122) - k

00:54:565 (164) - Dd
00:55:822 (172) - k
00:57:170 (181) - d

00:59:954 (201) - k
or
01:00:134 (202) - k

01:04:715 (221) - d

↓add
01:07:589 - d
01:08:308 - d
01:08:397 - d
---------------
01:09:116 (250,251) - k,d
01:09:385 (252) - remove or d
01:09:475 (254) - k
and...
00:30:852 (37) - ~ 00:31:571 (49) -
01:22:589 (305) - ~01:23:308 (317) -
→"1/6 d stream" change "1/4 d stream"

nice song :oops: ! I think that this song resembles "千本桜". lol :D
add as favorite :D :)
Topic Starter
mintong89
fix some thanks :)
wonders
hi
tv size还是做全4diff比较好
[buhei's insane]
00:11:169 拉近,0.3x
一个奇葩的提议,像00:35:852-00:31:571这种强烈段的连打加上normal音效的finish,像01:02:828、01:03:906、01:08:397和01:22:589
00:53:846 NC
01:13:906 flow不好,建议ctrl+h
01:21:152 NC
01:28:697 后面加两个note?

[Hard]
nice diff~
00:48:457 NC
00:15:224、00:15:583 连续的三连在hard里是很难的,务必加上NC帮助读图

[Normal]
00:37:679 cancel clap and whistle
00:39:116 ↑ 这里是很缓的part,用这么强的音效段不合适。接下来四段都只留一个clap音比较合适,我推荐留下第二个长白线前的那个白线。

~
Topic Starter
mintong89
fixed thanks :D

5 diff 了而且normal那么容易了还加上easy感觉有点...嗯..
eveless
[buhei's Insane]
  1. 00:11:169 (7) - 1/4折返在这里挺违和的,建议改成折返。以及在00:11:469 - 加finish.
  2. 00:14:515 (4) - flow感觉不是很好。建议换成
  3. 00:21:335 (6) - 节奏非常莫名。强烈要求re掉。 :?
  4. 00:37:320 (1) - 从这里开始whistle的下法显得非常2缺,虽然前面也一样,但是这里vocal一慢下来就更加显得你的whistle加的十分的生硬。
  5. 总结一下我对这难度的看法:1,节奏几乎同模,不是很出彩但是也不算蠢;
    2,音效生硬,缺乏对vocal的演绎,没有感情;
    3,排版没有彰显歌的起伏,缺乏张力,不大气,
    感觉老在那几个地方来来回回 :o

[Hard]
  1. 00:13:915 (3,4) - 这flow实在不是很好……建议重做。
  2. 00:37:858 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 音效很2啊...特别是这个00:39:475 (3) - 结尾的clap我以为我耳机坏了。在慢段完全没必要24clap,甚至我觉得不加音效还好一点……
  3. 01:06:062 (1) - flow不太好,我觉得应该是这个方向,2自己记得改。
  4. 01:08:577 (4,5,6,7) - 这音效太突兀了。。感觉突然有个人拿着一把冲锋枪出来扫射似的
  5. 01:23:667 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 就算你节奏要这么下音效也不要这样下啊……听上去略蠢。
  6. 01:26:182 (1,2) - 我就不吐槽这两个口哨了。。

[Normal]
  1. 这不是N这是easy吧……我觉得这N到H之间有gap,需要一个中间难度。
  2. 00:30:852 (5,6) - 依然是音效转换生硬问题
  3. 00:53:846 (2) - 音效莫名
  4. 01:26:182 (1,2) - 音效转换实在是奇葩到我已经不想多说的地步了

我觉得你还是先学会怎么加默认音效再去考虑太鼓音效的事吧
Azer
m4m :D

buhei's Insane
  1. 00:16:115 (7) - Remove the slider, put circle instead.
  2. 00:18:680 (2) - Time it earlier.
  3. 00:20:739 (5) - Replace with Slider.
  4. 00:21:335 (6) - Remove completely
  5. 01:28:697 (1) - Either remove or put slider @ 01:28:337 (5) and change position.

Not much to mod on this so, might as well add another difficulty.

Hard
  1. 00:18:680 (3) - Bad timing
  2. 00:31:930 (1) to 00:33:727 (3) - Snap these sliders 1/2 and add slicer velocity during this part.
  3. 01:12:170 (2) - End slider at 01:12:349
  4. 01:13:607 (2) - End slider at 01:13:787
  5. 01:23:667 (1) to 01:25:104 (2) - Snap all these sliders 1/2 and add velocity during this part.

That's all :D
Topic Starter
mintong89
[Hard]
  1. 00:13:915 (3,4) - 这flow实在不是很好……建议重做。没啊, 而且这是重复之前的2,3
  2. 00:37:858 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 音效很2啊...特别是这个00:39:475 (3) - 结尾的clap我以为我耳机坏了。在慢段完全没必要24clap,甚至我觉得不加音效还好一点…… 换了
  3. 01:06:062 (1) - flow不太好,我觉得应该是这个方向,2自己记得改。一个往左一个往右没感觉啥不好
  4. 01:08:577 (4,5,6,7) - 这音效太突兀了。。感觉突然有个人拿着一把冲锋枪出来扫射似的
  5. 01:23:667 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 就算你节奏要这么下音效也不要这样下啊……听上去略蠢。请指出来为啥蠢在哪了
  6. 01:26:182 (1,2) - 我就不吐槽这两个口哨了。。

[Normal]
  1. 这不是N这是easy吧……我觉得这N到H之间有gap,需要一个中间难度。
  2. 00:30:852 (5,6) - 依然是音效转换生硬问题
  3. 00:53:846 (2) - 音效莫名
  4. 01:26:182 (1,2) - 音效转换实在是奇葩到我已经不想多说的地步了

我觉得你还是先学会怎么加默认音效再去考虑太鼓音效的事吧 你还是先学尊重别人再来mod吧 毕竟我的主修是太鼓
thanks for mod.
@AzerFrost: no change sorry :(
Pokie


我只留兩句話, modding是別人給你做的, 主與賓需要分清楚, 應該是mapper去尊重modder而不是讓別人尊重你…。
既然知道自己的短處, 一個在做圖範疇比你要擅長的前輩願意給你意見時, 自己還抱著這種態度的話… 我覺得應該反思一下自己為何要做standard map。
Topic Starter
mintong89

Pokie wrote:



我只留兩句話, modding是別人給你做的, 主與賓需要分清楚, 應該是mapper去尊重modder而不是讓別人尊重你…。
既然知道自己的短處, 一個在做圖範疇比你要擅長的前輩願意給你意見時, 自己還抱著這種態度的話… 我覺得應該反思一下自己為何要做standard map。
谢提醒

Edit: Goodbye啊 对不起啊 之前因为气疯了就...嗯...所以 道歉啊orz 我承认我的图很烂 /.\
Gloria Guard
Hi mintong89 (:3 」 )=3

From my queue :)


[General]

Background image size 1229 x 768. This is change image size 1024x768


[Normal]

00:38:397 (1,2) I think this beat awkward.. becasue the sound of the two don't match.
I prefer to beat. -> http://puu.sh/2B9Q4
00:40:194 (1,2) 00:38:397 (1,2) with the same tempo preference..
00:46:840 (1,2) 00:38:397 same beat here
01:24:385 ~ 01:25:822 This is part front and the beat is recommended. 00:31:571 ~ 00:36:601 <- this


[Hard]

AR -1 Hp -1


00:41:451 (3,4,5,6) It is recommended to change this to the natural flow. -> http://puu.sh/2Ba6L


[Insane]

Hp +1

00:11:169 (7) This is my opinion. i think this 1/2 repeat slider remove and add 1/4 slider here




Really nice map... Good luck
Topic Starter
mintong89
fixed some thanks :O
-xNaCLx-
mod request through in-game pm...
嗚嗚我愈來愈懶了我什麼都不要做...

[overall]
00:37:409 - 這綠線移到 00:37:320 前面?

[Muzu]
00:42:709 - add k
01:02:469 (119) - D
01:05:882 - add k
01:08:667 - remove
01:10:912 - add k

[Oni]
01:15:224 (288) - k
為什麼那兩串1/6消失了;w;
Lundlerol
Taiko mod req from my queue

[General]
Isn't TaikoBG adjusted?
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,110


[Taiko Oni]
00:32:290 (50) - k? Sound of the snare
00:33:008 (55) - ^
00:33:727 (60) - ^
00:34:445 (67) - ^
01:00:673 (197) - ^ d Please find out whether this sound is followed up.
01:01:391 (199) - k^
01:03:727 (209) - k? Sound of the snare
01:23:308 (309) - k?
01:24:026 - k? Sound of the snare
01:24:745 (317) - ^
01:25:463 (322) - ^
01:26:182 (329) - ^

good luck みんと_(:3 」∠)_
Topic Starter
mintong89
fix some thanks o.o
No_Gu
就觉得你放不过supercell。。。
默默求个I行吗
Topic Starter
mintong89

No_Gu wrote:

就觉得你放不过supercell。。。
默默求个I行吗
可以哦 0.0 反正modder不是很多~
Rasis
  • Gu's Insane
01:15:044 (5,1) - 这两个note间距离略大而且不太容易找到节奏(感觉突然增加了难度)
01:26:900 (3,4) - 也是不太容易找到节奏

希望能采纳
Lukareia
[Taiko Oni]

00:35:882 (80,81) - K K

00:36:601 (83) - K

01:15:763 (294) - k

01:27:619 (345,346,347,348) - K K D K

說真的, 又悶又怪.........盡是一大堆 ddk ddk ddk d k ddk........算了反正歌也很悶
Topic Starter
mintong89
all fixed.
Kin
Hi Mint :D

Normal :

nothing to say nice diff \o

Hard :

00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - I think it's just me but I prefer to make a slow on this part, like SV x0,50 or x0,75
00:57:439 (1,2,1) - you can adjust blanket
01:14:864 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - look kinda hard, try something like this ? http://puu.sh/2Hvsm.jpg

buhei's Insane :


00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - I think it's just me but I prefer to make a slow on this part, like SV x0,50 or x0,75
00:16:115 (7) - this slider is really strange to play, I prefer add something here 00:16:313 -

Gu's Insane :

01:04:625 (1) - adjust blanket on 2
01:06:062 (1,2) - you can adjust blanket on 2

Muzukashii :


for taiko diff 00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - better to slow this part SV x0,5 or x0,75
00:11:469 (10) - i prefer k here for piano sound
00:30:852 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - it's look kinda hard than other patterns, maybe change as drum roll (slider) ?
01:22:589 (180,181,182,183,184,185,186) - ^
01:28:338 (207) - K ?

Oni :

for taiko diff 00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - better to slow this part SV x0,5 or x0,75
00:31:571 (45) - k ?
01:23:308 (310) - ^

Sorry for poor mod, but it's all I can find <_<
Nice map and good luck :D
luxoDeh
Hi! M4M from my queue.

NORMAL

00:12:089 - hm... what's this timing point for?
this diff is good!

HARD

00:46:661 (3) - I suggesto to make this slider end at 00:46:840 -
00:56:721 (2,3) - maybe here do something like this? 00:59:775 (3) - maybe extend this reverse to 01:00:134 - but I'm not really sure it eill be better XD
01:14:864 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this part is not bad but maybe it's a bit too insane for a hard diff... maybe replace these with reverse sliders like these
BUHEI'S INSANE

00:16:115 (7) - hm... I don't really like this, I feel like it's mapped on nothing

GU'S INSANE

00:37:320 (1) - the form at the beginning of the slider is strange :/

that's all, I am really bad at insane, so I say really poor thing. anyway the map is good and I also liked the song, so really good luck for rank ^.^
Topic Starter
mintong89

Kin wrote:

Hi Mint :D

Normal :

nothing to say nice diff \o

Hard :

00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - I think it's just me but I prefer to make a slow on this part, like SV x0,50 or x0,75 i think it's ok, so no.
00:57:439 (1,2,1) - you can adjust blanket nope
01:14:864 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - look kinda hard, try something like this ? http://puu.sh/2Hvsm.jpg
it's a last part so i think make it little hard it's ok right?

Muzukashii :[/b]


for taiko diff 00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - better to slow this part SV x0,5 or x0,75 nope
00:11:469 (10) - i prefer k here for piano sound k
00:30:852 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - it's look kinda hard than other patterns, maybe change as drum roll (slider) ? i think it's ok so no
01:22:589 (180,181,182,183,184,185,186) - ^
01:28:338 (207) - K ? no, it want to same with previous three D

Oni :

for taiko diff 00:37:320 - 00:48:457 - better to slow this part SV x0,5 or x0,75
00:31:571 (45) - k ? no, it have big drum sound on here
01:23:308 (310) - ^

Sorry for poor mod, but it's all I can find <_<
Nice map and good luck :D

luxoDeh wrote:

Hi! M4M from my queue.

NORMAL

00:12:089 - hm... what's this timing point for?
this diff is good!

HARD

00:46:661 (3) - I suggesto to make this slider end at 00:46:840 - i want make this same with 00:45:942 (1,2) - so no.
00:56:721 (2,3) - maybe here do something like this? hmm...i will think about it
00:59:775 (3) - maybe extend this reverse to 01:00:134 - but I'm not really sure it eill be better XD no, it follow drum
01:14:864 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this part is not bad but maybe it's a bit too insane for a hard diff... maybe replace these with reverse sliders like these see i reply for Kin

that's all, I am really bad at insane, so I say really poor thing. anyway the map is good and I also liked the song, so really good luck for rank ^.^
thanks for mod all \o/
Andrea
~General~
  1. BG's dimension is kinda weird, try to resize it properly.
  2. You're missing the file approachcircle.png in your skin, make sure to add it.
~Normal~
  1. 00:03:140 (1,2) - Do not stack them like that on the easiest difficulty of the mapset, they could be confusing for beginners.
  2. 00:37:320 (1,2) - Same as above for the same reason.
  3. 00:45:942 (1,2) - Once again, same as above.
  4. 01:01:751 (3,4) - Spacing, they're too close together, please fix them correctly with distance snap.
  5. 01:16:122 (5,1) - Do not stack them like that on the easiest difficulty of the mapset, they could be confusing for beginners.
~Hard~
  1. 01:08:577 (4,5,6,7,1) - This stream might be too hard for this difficulty, try changing them to sliders instead.
~buhei's Insane~
  1. Increase HP Drain by 1 tick to balance with the difficulty settings.
  1. 01:19:894 (2) - This slider end sounds way too loud, try reducing the volume of it.
~Gu's Insane~
  1. Increase HP Drain by 1 tick to balance with the difficulty settings.
  1. 00:35:702 (9) - Unsnapped slider end, please make sure to resnap it properly.
  2. 00:48:457 (1) - This slider is really small, I almost can't see the repeat at all.
  3. 01:08:846 (4,1) - This jump is way too cruel, try reducing it a bit please.
Topic Starter
mintong89

Andrea wrote:

~General~
  1. BG's dimension is kinda weird, try to resize it properly. it's rankable so i don't change it.
  2. You're missing the file approachcircle.png in your skin, make sure to add it.
added

~Normal~
  1. 00:03:140 (1,2) - Do not stack them like that on the easiest difficulty of the mapset, they could be confusing for beginners. it's Normal so i think it's ok imo
  2. 00:37:320 (1,2) - Same as above for the same reason.
  3. 00:45:942 (1,2) - Once again, same as above.
  4. 01:01:751 (3,4) - Spacing, they're too close together, please fix them correctly with distance snap. fixed
  5. 01:16:122 (5,1) - Do not stack them like that on the easiest difficulty of the mapset, they could be confusing for beginners.
~Hard~
  1. 01:08:577 (4,5,6,7,1) - This stream might be too hard for this difficulty, try changing them to sliders instead. i think it's ok, and i didn't see someone told this before.
thanks for mod \o/
neonat
Hard

01:00:134 - maybe add a note

Muzukashii

00:06:055 (4) - change to d
01:09:924 - +d
01:10:014 (151) - change to d
01:10:194 - +k
wantuole
来mod了
bg的size~
[nor]
ok
[Hard]
00:12:089 (5,1) - NC换到5这
00:18:680 (3) - 这个3没压到节奏 慢了
00:25:823 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 34不叠在一起更好 重音地方停顿显得不是很契合音乐了
00:34:266 (5,6) - 去了clap
00:36:421 (2,1) - ^不停顿会好点
00:41:092 (4,5) - ctrl+g? 来点小的交叉跳
01:00:134 +1 note 渐进的韵味会好点
01:16:122 (1) - 换轨太急了 down在01:16:840 丰满点的节奏

[buhei's Insane]
ok
00:37:320 ~ 00:47:379 作为渐进节奏 做的太密了 适当删掉点三连
01:28:697 (1) - 这鼓声有点多余 去了鼓音效或者就删了吧
[Gu's Insane]
谷子神麻婆
Topic Starter
mintong89
fixed some thanks~
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