Not all LCD's also allow for this. Mine in particular (Acer 201HL or something) will say "out of range" when going past 75Hz. On the other hand, my monitor by default only goes to 60Hz at my native res (1600x900), but with that custom resolution tool, I was able to go to 75Hz.
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120Hz made me stream 500 bpm
does this really make much of a difference for osu?
from what i've heard: no.
from what i've heard: no.
but it looks so smooth D:
Looks better but obviously does not affect input and therefor won't necessarily make a difference.Kanye West wrote:
does this really make much of a difference for osu?
from what i've heard: no.
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It will but only to a certain degree.boat wrote:
Looks better but obviously does not affect input and therefor won't necessarily make a difference.Kanye West wrote:
does this really make much of a difference for osu?
from what i've heard: no.
Like all other things that pro gamers claim but others wave the bullshit flag at.
Certain monitors, yes, it will as some can take advantage of the extra speed thus taking the response time down a little.
And as for claiming it helps with osu!, well, if you're like me and play high AR maps (9/10) with jumps and such, you will find that landing beats on time is much more lenient and easy, a fine example is TheLewa who has his monitor at 120Hz and manages to do so many HR ranks with excellent accuracy.
So yeah, monitor to monitor this will differ and for some it will be absolutely useless or a great help for those with capable monitors.
Thus this thread serves it's purpose for those willing to experiment.
Definitely helps with taiko on high slider velocity/bpm.boat wrote:
Looks better but obviously does not affect input and therefor won't necessarily make a difference.Kanye West wrote:
does this really make much of a difference for osu?
from what i've heard: no.
Doesn't work for Samsung SyncMaster P2250 
or I do something wrong.
or I do something wrong.Tue Apr 02I am not impressed.
You need faster update on your screen because your eyes will see more, like when using flashlight you need 180hz monitor to see past the black
What you didn't mention is that you totally need to connect your monitor to GPU with a dual link DVI cable (GPU needs a dual link slot too). Because single link DVI can't handle that much data (i.e. 120hz@1920x1080)
Alternatively Displayport can be used if I am not mistaken
Alternatively Displayport can be used if I am not mistaken
I play AR10 on a 60Hz monitor. 9 isn't even fast on a 30Hz monitor.
Granted, I go unlimited during gameplay, but that's under the belief I get lesser delayed inputs.
And that mine is quite the old one.
Granted, I go unlimited during gameplay, but that's under the belief I get lesser delayed inputs.
And that mine is quite the old one.
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Also, peeps testing this must set the refresh rate in your osu! config file to 120Hz too!
^you don't need to if you're playing in windowed mode. I have a 76Hz monitor and osu! automagically followed my desktop's refresh rate.
i'd be interested in gathering statistics of players who go from 60hz to 120hz to perform a proper factorial analysis on whether this has any influence or not, because i really don't think it does.
I have a 144hz monitor and it is a lot smoother than 60hz (plus it has lower response time)
You just see more frames in comparison with 60hz. When you move your cursor VERY fast you will actually SEE all the path where it goes. The monitor isn't limiting your ability to read stuff anymore. On 60hz you'll have to kinda predict where you moved the cursor
I can't even say I regret upgrading from my lovely 100hz CRT anymore (it died), because it offers similar smoothness
You just see more frames in comparison with 60hz. When you move your cursor VERY fast you will actually SEE all the path where it goes. The monitor isn't limiting your ability to read stuff anymore. On 60hz you'll have to kinda predict where you moved the cursor
I can't even say I regret upgrading from my lovely 100hz CRT anymore (it died), because it offers similar smoothness
I don't think you can get better input rate with this tool.
Well yes, it might be helpful to read fast AR for some people, but not for me because I would rather memorize where the notes will come instead, and using purely my ears with my headphones to time the notes.
Additionally, I'm already too used to seeing screen tearing stuff. Haha. xD
Well yes, it might be helpful to read fast AR for some people, but not for me because I would rather memorize where the notes will come instead, and using purely my ears with my headphones to time the notes.
Additionally, I'm already too used to seeing screen tearing stuff. Haha. xD
I switched from LCD with 5ms response time to CRT and I now play at 85hz and the difference is huge. Specially when playing HR only. I can see everything better and it helps with my reaction.
120Hz really shouldnt offer any significant advantage, especially since you need to play hidden to gain good ranks on most situations. The only benefit I could see is the smoother cursor movement for maps such as no,39 and Niko Made of Fire... but thats about it.
I have a 120Hz and I didnt feel much difference from switching from a 60Hz monitor. If you want smoother approach circle movement I recommend using a thicker approach circles for your skin.
I have a 120Hz and I didnt feel much difference from switching from a 60Hz monitor. If you want smoother approach circle movement I recommend using a thicker approach circles for your skin.
I could see it helping a little bit, but not a great deal. It might help for when I play ar 10-11, but other than that not too much. Even AR10 wouldn't offer much benefit for osu! standard. I could see 120hz helping the most in taiko. To me, the only reason I don't try to play the game is because of how choppy it looks. It hurts my brain being able to see the frames chop horizontally across my stream. I think playing 120hz on taiko would be MUCH better than 60hz. Worlds better. I would actually try it if I had 120hz monitor. But for standard? I don't know that it would give any advantage at all. It would make the game look smoother, of course, but as far as registering, I don't think so.
Same here, it DOES make a difference.Metro wrote:
I switched from LCD with 5ms response time to CRT and I now play at 85hz and the difference is huge. Specially when playing HR only. I can see everything better and it helps with my reaction.
i have a 120hz monitor and i still suck
edit: that being said i tried 60hz the other day and i felt like killing myself
edit: that being said i tried 60hz the other day and i felt like killing myself
Another thing to consider, if your monitor has built-in overdrive, or if you're using it from your GPU control panel, increasing the refresh rate past specifications can actually increase response time, and cause colors to react strangely. More info: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/ov ... t_75hz.htm
Anyone know a 24" 1920x1200 monitor with 5 ms or less of input delay that can be overclocked to 120Hz using this program? Maybe I'm using it wrong, but my monitor can't be overclocked using this program at all.
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Dell ultrasharp u2412m?Kyou-kun wrote:
Anyone know a 24" 1920x1200 monitor with 5 ms or less of input delay that can be overclocked to 120Hz using this program? Maybe I'm using it wrong, but my monitor can't be overclocked using this program at all.
That monitor has 8 ms of delay, roughly one frame at 120Hz. I'd prefer something lower.Ijah wrote:
Dell ultrasharp u2412m?
It depends are you using single or dual link dvi. Single link dvi obviously can't handle 120hz @ 1920x1200, you need dual link dvi for that
Then your panel just might not be capable of being overclocked. Could you post some info about your GPU & monitor?
I'm using two 6970s in CrossFire and I'm pretty sure I'm using this monitor: http://www.amazon.com/24in-TFT-LCD-1920 ... B000UD0GWY
Some monitors can't be overclocked too far either. Mine for example only got 18Hz additional before becoming unstable (saying unsupported). If you can manage to go from 60Hz to 120Hz, you're extremely lucky.
I still havn't seen a monitor with a refresh rate of 120Hz. The highest out there I believe is 100.
The 120Hz on monitors is clever marketing for 3D monitors, because they can run two times 60, which equals 120.
The 120Hz on monitors is clever marketing for 3D monitors, because they can run two times 60, which equals 120.
Highest LCD I've seen is 144Hz
Highest CRT I've seen is I don't even know a lot
Highest CRT I've seen is I don't even know a lot
Using a Samsung SyncMaster XL2370. Went into the monitor properties and tried setting the Refresh Rate to 120, but the screen just went black and said "Not optimum mode". Does this mean my monitor simply can't do 120 hz?
Damn
It does this at 61 hz too
I still wonder if this is an arbitrary restriction, or if the monitor is simply incapable.
It does this at 61 hz too
I still wonder if this is an arbitrary restriction, or if the monitor is simply incapable.
Can't go past 60hz ._.
65 Hz working fine
However 70 Hz makes my screen go crazy
Let's try above 65 ..
66 Fine...
67 Is breaking
Yeah, So my maximum is 66
Iiyama ProLite E2473HDS
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Seeing A LITTLE difference, on taiko, while telling an auto to play big black, dons /kats eyes, on 60 Hz, are a little stuttering, however, on 66 Hz this effect is invisible.
However 70 Hz makes my screen go crazy
Let's try above 65 ..
66 Fine...
67 Is breaking
Yeah, So my maximum is 66
Iiyama ProLite E2473HDS
Feedback:
Seeing A LITTLE difference, on taiko, while telling an auto to play big black, dons /kats eyes, on 60 Hz, are a little stuttering, however, on 66 Hz this effect is invisible.
Never mind, it was an arbitrary restriction. I disabled "Safety lock" in my monitor's options and now I can go all the way to 120 Hz. Nice!