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Inoue Nana - Snow snow [Osu|OsuMania|Taiko]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年4月20日 at 13:50:38

Artist: Inoue Nana
Title: Snow snow
Source: Touhou
Tags: Touhou project Team Shanghai Alice Inoue Nana Mystic Square ZUN
BPM: 178
Filesize: 6593kb
Play Time: 03:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (5 stars, 605 notes)
  2. Mania Hard - 5Key (4.58 stars, 864 notes)
  3. Mania Insane - 7Key (4.37 stars, 1115 notes)
  4. Taiko (5 stars, 693 notes)
Download: Inoue Nana - Snow snow
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First Map
2013/3/26 Insane - Done
2013/3/26 Taiko - Done
2013/3/27 Mania Hard - Done
2013/3/28 Mania Insane - Done
2013/3/29 Added a better SB
2012/4/16 Change Something in 5K&7K
球mod~~
Topic Starter
Caviare
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woc2006
简单Mod
Hard 5K
170340,-333.333333333333,4,2,0,45,0,1 这里连续3次变速,音乐和氛围上没有变化,建议去掉
00:30:368 (30368|3,30368|1,30368|2) - 类似这里,因为刚好是重音,所以你用多note来对应。但是hitsound还是soft,建议替换成更重的效果音。后面全程soft也有同样问题。
background切换都太快了,加渐变
Topic Starter
Caviare

woc2006 wrote:

简单Mod
Hard 5K
170340,-333.333333333333,4,2,0,45,0,1 这里连续3次变速,音乐和氛围上没有变化,建议去掉
00:30:368 (30368|3,30368|1,30368|2) - 类似这里,因为刚好是重音,所以你用多note来对应。但是hitsound还是soft,建议替换成更重的效果音。后面全程soft也有同样问题。
background切换都太快了,加渐变

wow 开源哥-;- 谢谢
Evil_Twilight
愛麗絲!
retadidas
hello,我是小七,很荣幸能MOD你的图
不过我只是个Mania玩家,就只好MOD mania的两个难度哦~ ;)

5K
00:49:038 (49038|0) - 这里建议可以改成长条,配合前面的长音
01:01:341 (61341|3) - 同上

01:23:588 (83588|1,83588|4) - 这里两个长音感觉没那么短,可以适当拉长

01:25:611 (85611|0,85611|2,85948|2,85948|4,86117|0) - 这里建议改成两个长音

01:32:015 (92015|2) - 这里建议把小短条改成双连击

01:37:746 (97746|2) - 这里的长条改成和前一小节01:36:397 (96397|3) - 一样的长度

02:16:678 (136678|0,137184|2,137353|4) - 这里两个长条的衔接感觉怪怪的

02:30:330 (150330|1,150667|2,151004|4,151341|1,151678|3,152015|0,152353|4) - 这里的小短条可以考虑改成双NOTE的交错连击,当然如果你不愿意也没关系

02:36:229 (156229|1,156566|2) - 前两个面条建议改成单键

7K
太困了,要睡觉了,明天继续MOD 7K
retadidas
7K
01:14:824 (74824|0,74824|6,74824|5) - 这里改成长条比较合适

01:28:308 (88308|4) - 这里也应该是长音,建议把阶梯面条整体往后延一段
01:33:701 (93701|0,94375|1,94712|2,94881|3) - 同上

02:47:690 (167690|4,167690|2,167690|0) - 这里改成长条比较合适
02:54:600 (174600|6) - 同上
02:55:948 (175948|0) - 同上
02:57:128 (177128|0) - 同上

差不多就这些了,有空的话也帮小七的mozart MOD一下哦~谢谢 :)
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/124239
Entozer
Offset: 23629 (+40 from current)

Are you still going to make the easy and normal mania? (Based on your post in the modding queue)

Will mod when I have time.

Not modding patterns this time (Just a light mod for now. I don't have much time x _ x)

Mania Insane
All timestamp here are based on Suggested offset (23629)
Note placements are up to you

00:23:207 (23207|2) - Add note
00:35:258 (35258|0) - Extend until 00:35:595 -
00:36:943 (36943|2) - Shorten to 00:37:112 -
00:37:112 (37112|1) - Add long note and extend until 00:37:449 -

00:44:190 (44190|4) - Move to middle lane

00:44:359 (44359|4) - Add long note and exnted to 00:44:696 -

00:44:359 (44359|6) - Delete
00:44:696 (44696|6) - Add long note here and extend until 00:45:202 -

00:49:246 (49246|1) - This starts at 00:49:078 - and end at 00:49:921 -

Mm.. Somehow, find a way to start this 00:45:539 (45539|0) - at 00:45:202 - (Guitar starts here) and extend it until 00:47:898 -
Also this 00:47:393 (47393|6) - Starts at 00:47:898 - and ends at 00:50:595 -
For consistency, add a long note again at this 00:50:595 - frame (guitar again) and end it at 00:53:291 -

00:52:449 (52449|4) - Extend this long note until 00:52:954 -
00:52:954 - Add another long note and extend until 00:53:291 -

00:53:291 (53291|6) - You can remove this if you can't add a long note for guitar at 00:54:640 -

--Suggestion--
starting at this timeframe 00:55:988 - until 01:01:381 -
I think it's better if you try to keep the vocals as a long note.
On the first few minute the vocals have been set as long note already. It feels a bit weird for me while playing because the long notes feels too random
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Or change these:
00:58:516 (58516|2) - Extend until 00:59:190 -

00:59:022 (59022|3) - Start at 00:59:190 - and end at 00:59:359 -


01:07:112 (67112|0) - This long note feels weird...
01:09:808 (69808|6) - ^

I know you placed them for the vocals. Maybe you could try breaking them down?

01:14:864 (74864|1) - Add note

01:41:831 - to 01:52:617 - Could be better. See 00:23:629 - to 00:33:067 -

01:52:954 (112954|0) - Start at 01:52:617 - (This long note if for the guitar right?) And end at 01:55:314 -
01:54:808 (114808|6) - Start at 01:55:314 - and end at 01:58:011 - (Note placements are up to you)
01:56:494 (116494|0) - Delete

02:30:370 - to 02:32:730 - Add another note on the white ticks (so that there are 2 of them)

02:51:775 (171775|6) - Start at 02:51:943 -

Mania Hard
Just some tip: Pattern changes are good for every 4 beats (or as long as the pattern changes at the big white tick)
Try to be consistent on the note placement. (If you only allot 1 note for the vocals in the specific pattern, try to keep it as one note all throughout that pattern)

Try to recheck the others section and change them. I'll point out what you can retain.

Starting from 00:23:629 - to 00:34:415 - you can keep it

00:34:415 - From this part to 00:45:202 - I think it's better if you focus on the vocal + drums instead and make them more structured. (When I was playing it, it felt a bit messy.)

From 00:45:202 - to 01:41:831 - You can keep this

01:41:831 - to 01:52:617 - Maybe you can change this too. See 00:23:629 - to 00:34:415 -

From 01:52:617 - to 02:30:370 - Maybe you can keep it, but try to check the notes.

02:30:370 - to End of song - You can keep this

The places where I said you can keep doesn't mean that they are perfect already. You Should try to check them again and do some changes if possible. Remember, try to be consistent with the note placement and the pattern. You can PM me in osu if you need help.
Topic Starter
Caviare

retadidas wrote:

7K
01:14:824 (74824|0,74824|6,74824|5) - 这里改成长条比较合适

01:28:308 (88308|4) - 这里也应该是长音,建议把阶梯面条整体往后延一段
01:33:701 (93701|0,94375|1,94712|2,94881|3) - 同上

02:47:690 (167690|4,167690|2,167690|0) - 这里改成长条比较合适
02:54:600 (174600|6) - 同上
02:55:948 (175948|0) - 同上
02:57:128 (177128|0) - 同上

差不多就这些了,有空的话也帮小七的mozart MOD一下哦~谢谢 :)
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/124239

5K跟7K的Mod都很有用 非常感谢
今天考完试了才有时间改- -
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
0,0
Topic Starter
Caviare

Entozer wrote:

Offset: 23629 (+40 from current)

Are you still going to make the easy and normal mania? (Based on your post in the modding queue)

Will mod when I have time.

Not modding patterns this time (Just a light mod for now. I don't have much time x _ x)

Mania Insane
All timestamp here are based on Suggested offset (23629)
Note placements are up to you

00:23:207 (23207|2) - Add note
00:35:258 (35258|0) - Extend until 00:35:595 -
00:36:943 (36943|2) - Shorten to 00:37:112 -
00:37:112 (37112|1) - Add long note and extend until 00:37:449 -

00:44:190 (44190|4) - Move to middle lane

00:44:359 (44359|4) - Add long note and exnted to 00:44:696 -

00:44:359 (44359|6) - Delete
00:44:696 (44696|6) - Add long note here and extend until 00:45:202 -

00:49:246 (49246|1) - This starts at 00:49:078 - and end at 00:49:921 -

Mm.. Somehow, find a way to start this 00:45:539 (45539|0) - at 00:45:202 - (Guitar starts here) and extend it until 00:47:898 -
Also this 00:47:393 (47393|6) - Starts at 00:47:898 - and ends at 00:50:595 -
For consistency, add a long note again at this 00:50:595 - frame (guitar again) and end it at 00:53:291 -

00:52:449 (52449|4) - Extend this long note until 00:52:954 -
00:52:954 - Add another long note and extend until 00:53:291 -

00:53:291 (53291|6) - You can remove this if you can't add a long note for guitar at 00:54:640 -

--Suggestion--
starting at this timeframe 00:55:988 - until 01:01:381 -
I think it's better if you try to keep the vocals as a long note.
On the first few minute the vocals have been set as long note already. It feels a bit weird for me while playing because the long notes feels too random
------------------


Or change these:
00:58:516 (58516|2) - Extend until 00:59:190 -

00:59:022 (59022|3) - Start at 00:59:190 - and end at 00:59:359 -


01:07:112 (67112|0) - This long note feels weird...
01:09:808 (69808|6) - ^

I know you placed them for the vocals. Maybe you could try breaking them down?

01:14:864 (74864|1) - Add note

01:41:831 - to 01:52:617 - Could be better. See 00:23:629 - to 00:33:067 -

01:52:954 (112954|0) - Start at 01:52:617 - (This long note if for the guitar right?) And end at 01:55:314 -
01:54:808 (114808|6) - Start at 01:55:314 - and end at 01:58:011 - (Note placements are up to you)
01:56:494 (116494|0) - Delete

02:30:370 - to 02:32:730 - Add another note on the white ticks (so that there are 2 of them)

02:51:775 (171775|6) - Start at 02:51:943 -

Mania Hard
Just some tip: Pattern changes are good for every 4 beats (or as long as the pattern changes at the big white tick)
Try to be consistent on the note placement. (If you only allot 1 note for the vocals in the specific pattern, try to keep it as one note all throughout that pattern)

Try to recheck the others section and change them. I'll point out what you can retain.

Starting from 00:23:629 - to 00:34:415 - you can keep it

00:34:415 - From this part to 00:45:202 - I think it's better if you focus on the vocal + drums instead and make them more structured. (When I was playing it, it felt a bit messy.)

From 00:45:202 - to 01:41:831 - You can keep this

01:41:831 - to 01:52:617 - Maybe you can change this too. See 00:23:629 - to 00:34:415 -

From 01:52:617 - to 02:30:370 - Maybe you can keep it, but try to check the notes.

02:30:370 - to End of song - You can keep this

The places where I said you can keep doesn't mean that they are perfect already. You Should try to check them again and do some changes if possible. Remember, try to be consistent with the note placement and the pattern. You can PM me in osu if you need help.

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Very Helpful! Thanks!
Busy for exam these days, so sorry for not correcting immediately.

01:41:831 - to 01:52:617 - Could be better. See 00:23:629 - to 00:33:067 - just had a slight change, since I guess players need a break here, since this map is 3Mins long

the other has already corrected
;)
abalee
現在的鋪面要求是一個模式起碼有兩張譜,而且按你這osu!模式的insane設定我覺得起碼還要一個Hard和一個Normal,先別急著找mod,放回去Work in Progress補完兩張osu!譜和一張Taiko譜為好。
單就Insane來看,整體基本是按自己的節奏來下,很有新人做map排滿1/4、隨便放jump的感覺。音樂里節奏明顯的鼓點和強音沒有運用起來打擊感不強。
具體來說
00:26:325 (1) - , 00:29:022 (1) - ,00:31:718 (4) - 00:33:067 (1) - 以及後面的地方音樂有明顯的重音,這些地方加Finish就有較好的效果
00:55:314 (5) - ~ , 01:05:932 (5) - ~ ,等,可以嘗試用Nprmal-Nromal跟後面的鼓點放,
01:39:050 (1) - 這個spinner應該將結束放在01:41:831 (x) - 處並加Finish音效

歌很適合做成Hot Map,就看你有沒能這個能力駕馭了
Topic Starter
Caviare

abalee wrote:

現在的鋪面要求是一個模式起碼有兩張譜,而且按你這osu!模式的insane設定我覺得起碼還要一個Hard和一個Normal,先別急著找mod,放回去Work in Progress補完兩張osu!譜和一張Taiko譜為好。
單就Insane來看,整體基本是按自己的節奏來下,很有新人做map排滿1/4、隨便放jump的感覺。音樂里節奏明顯的鼓點和強音沒有運用起來打擊感不強。
具體來說
00:26:325 (1) - , 00:29:022 (1) - ,00:31:718 (4) - 00:33:067 (1) - 以及後面的地方音樂有明顯的重音,這些地方加Finish就有較好的效果 done
00:55:314 (5) - ~ , 01:05:932 (5) - ~ ,等,可以嘗試用Nprmal-Nromal跟後面的鼓點放, done
01:39:050 (1) - 這個spinner應該將結束放在01:41:831 (x) - 處並加Finish音效 done

歌很適合做成Hot Map,就看你有沒能這個能力駕馭了


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谢谢!
之前看到taiko要两张才能Rank就哭了 感觉还是放弃taiko比较好..
之前考试停了一段时间没不上其他diff
hard正在努力做
Normal稍后补上
等我做完欢迎再mod 欢迎给排列跟节奏多提建议 :)
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