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[Guide] First Time Beatmapper!

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VIDgamefrk9
Thank you so much man, I am currently experimenting with different elements to make my first beatmap stand out, even if it is easy
D33d
Gonna lift this from another subforum, because this is very relevant.

mm201 wrote:

To summarize hitsounding in one sentence, hitsounds should be consistent and expressive. Try to think as if osu! was some kind of new percussion instrument and you were writing a line for it to go with the music. Think of which beats are strong, which are weak, and which are accented, then hitsound appropriately.

Try to avoid thinking in terms of 3 different samplesets, but instead try to combine them together fluidly. The new sampleset picker should make this much easier. Don't barcode the timeline with green/inherited lines; it achieves the same thing in a more restricted way, and takes more of your time.

It's better to use hitsounds consistently than to worry about using all of the different sounds. Using a smaller group of hitsounds can help to give your map more of a distinct character than shoving them all in together. Just don't use so few sounds that your map sounds bland. You'll almost always want to use each of the hitnormals, soft/normal-hitfinish, and one of the claps. If you do use a sound, don't use it too rarely or it will sound out of place.

Here are some suggestions on how to use different sounds. Try to follow these whenever possible, so our maps have a consistent look & feel & hear:

normal-hitnormal: A medium-strength, quintessential hit, suitable for beats. (Use on white ticks.)
drum-hitnormal: A subdued hit, suitable for off-beats. (Use on red ticks.)
soft-hitnormal: Even more subdued, use for quiet parts of the music.

normal-hitwhistle: A very loud, accent hit. Use for bits that scream IMPORTANT, music-wise. Should be used to emphasize whole patterns, and almost never be used alone. DON'T PLACE WHISTLES CLOSER THAN A 1/1 AHHH! For frequent emphasis, look into using drum-hitfinish, soft-hitwhistle, or drum-hitwhistle.
drum-hitwhistle: A hi-hat, suitable for important off-beats, like syncopation patterns. Also sounds nice on slider heads.
soft-hitwhistle: A quiet, very repeatable accent/emphasis sound, nice to use when a subtle, gentle effect is desired. Layered and delicious when used underneath a normal-hitnormal in an otherwise "normal" pattern.

normal-hitfinish: A very strong emphasis, best kept for the most important beat every couple bars. In some situations, it can be used more regularly, but never more than once every 2 beats. whistle+finish is good for very epic moments like jump combos. Try to keep these phrased.
drum-hitfinish: A much weaker emphasis, and quite repeatable. It has a very subtle but "strong" effect and is best used to add depth to your hitsounding. Sounds good on odd numbered white ticks.
soft-hitfinish: Another strong emphasis, this doesn't fit with normal-hitfinish in most situations, and becomes the alternative for a mapset. It's more repeatable than normal-hitfinish. In situations where both get used, this one sounds less final than its Normal counterpart.

normal-hitclap: A standard, sort of techno clap sound. If you don't apply the classic, cheesy "clap on every even numbered white tick" rule, be very careful how you place them. They really need to follow a rigid structure or will sound "out of place".
drum-hitclap: A high tom. This should always be used in tandem with drum-hitfinish to create a descending tom sort of effect. As such, this will usually be entirely absent on the lower difficulties.
soft-hitclap: Basically, this is an alternative clap to Normal's. It's used in basically the same way. Mixing the two is possible but tricky. In that case, you should use normal-hitclap for the rigid pattern and use Soft's in special places.

D33d wrote:

I feel like adding my own reflections on this, because using drum hitsounds is something of a practised art form. A lot of people use them too sparingly and then their map's as flat as a nigh-empty bottle of Cola.

For me, drum-hitnormals have worked on the beat, as long as they're balanced by stronger hitsounds elsewhere in the bar. Small clusters of drumnormals can sound quite good in quick succession, as they create a steady and subtle thump between stronger hitsounds. In some songs, this can be very good for creating momentum.

Drum hitsounds on slider tracks give the ticks a soft snare sound, which is also very good for momentum when there's a slow section with a lot of long sliders. Drum ticks can also be used to accent a variety of offbeats and beats in sliders and I've found them to be especially effective when sliders end 1/4 after a tick. This creates a tactility that's similar to 1/4 doubles, without cluttering a map with too many fast stacks in quick succession. 'Dee Dee Cee' and 'Endless Tower' feature good examples of this.

Drum-hitclaps and drum-hitfinishes can sometimes sound great when used in irregular ways--a Bebop term, "dropping bombs," refers to strong hits on an the offbeats and it is incredibly powerful. When used correctly, this can be awesome. Also, drum-hitnormals can sound pretty good when they precede a stronger hitsound which isn't a drumfinish. I've also found that something as simple as switching the order of a clap and finish within a repeated pattern creates more resolution.

If anybody ever wants help with making their map sound pretty, then I'm more than happy to give advice and even re-hitsound maps.
How do you switch samples? Use this in the top-left corner of the editor.



"Sampleset" refers to the underlying hitsound and "additions" refers to the hitsound that occurs on top of it. If "auto" is selected for both, then the hitsound will default to whichever sampleset is assigned to the current timing point--in other words, whatever is set in the Timing panel.



Another thing to note is that, because of a bug during gameplay, "auto" hitsounds on either end of a slider will default to what's on the slider track, instead of what's assigned to the timing section. For example, if the section's default is drum hitsounds and an auto clap is assigned to a sliderend, what will sound as a clap in the editor will sound as a drum during gameplay. To get around with this, specify "normal," "soft" or "drum" every time a sliderend is hitsounded.

There are also keyboard shortcuts for hitsounding.

Shift + QWER: Specify the underlying sampleset.

CTRL + QWER: Specify the additional hitsound.

Q: Auto

W: Normal

E: Soft

R: Drum

This is why the keybind to reverse objects was moved to G, because hitsounds are used more frequently and QWER is the most logical place to assign keystrokes for hitsounds.
Stefan
I wish I had this in my Time when I started. :o

Very nice Guide, Props for that. :)
Broccoly

Stefan wrote:

I wish I had this in my Time when I started. :o

Very nice Guide, Props for that. :)
Same.. I had to learn from another guy (actually a girl). She had to use twitch to teach me basic things..
Very nice idea yoshi~
D33d
Also of note: Please focus on simple patterns to start with. Sure, feel free to experiment with ideas, but please do not try to emulate too many contestable quirks which are in popular maps. It's debatable as to how many of these quirks are actually good.

DEEDIT: Gonna quote what I'd posted in another thread as well, in regards to difficulty. It's long-winded and merely my own take on it, but I feel that a lot of people could learn from it.

As it's your first map, don't make the mistake of getting too ambitious with patterns and slider shapes. It doesn't hurt to experiment, but if something looks and feels awful in comparison to ranked maps, then scrap it without question. If it feels and/or looks better than what you see in ranked maps, then it'll become a means to make your maps much more distinct and intersting.

In terms of difficulty, normal shouldn't have too many objects 1/2 after each other--as in, don't use too many half beats (the gap between a white tick and a red tick in the timeline). You should also try not to make everything occur on beats, as this will make your normal difficulty very boring. You will also want to base patterns more around longish sliders and leave some space between combos. What I mean is, don't have everything flowing into each other relentlessly, as this would become tiresome for a newer player. For more experienced players, this would also be boring and monotonous.

Hard difficulties should feel a little bit like normal, in that you're still using a good balance of longer sliders and circle patterns, but you can generally follow more of the detail in a phrase. In a moderate vocal song, you would probably be able to follow most of the singer's words. In terms of how many objects you can get use, it's generally a good idea to make patterns with around 4-8 half beats, as long as you don't overdo it and kill the difficulty curve of the map.

Contrary to popular belief, you're allowed to use confusing patterns in [Hard], as long as the spacing indicates them clearly and they're following obvious cues in the music. You should try to repeat them quite frequently in a section, so that the player has time to get used to them. You can also use patterns which force the player to read them by their numbers--again, as long as the spacing is consistent. In any difficulty, switching the order of objects at random is unfair and would make the player feel cheated. I certainly feel like that a lot.

Easy diffs should be kept very sparse and have a lot of space, rhythmically, between objects. It should also be painfully clear as to where objects should be hit. You should still use varied rhythms, but they must feel consistent and predictable. Get good at making easies interesting, yet playable, and you'll be much better at making the other difficulties tidy and enjoyable. Far too many people skimp on their easies and normals and the entire mapset can suffer because of this.

I'd also like to suggest playing songs on each difficulty in 'Ouendan 2,' or at least watching gameplay videos. Many people decry the style of the maps, but they are very good indicators of how to achieve the overall feel for [Easy] through [Hard]. Also, try to learn to use copypaste for these difficulties, in ways which fit the music and still remain interesting. Many people also hate copypaste, but when patterns recur and vary slightly, they help the player to feel where they are in the music and generally bring together the style of the map as a whole. I've learned a lot from practising this.

I'm prepared for the usual tsunami of Haterade, but thinking in detail about all of the above, as well as paying close attention to how things are aligned as per the screenshot, have helped me to progress in leaps and bounds. It takes a long time to refine a style, but if you work hard enough, you'll surprise yourself at how natural it feels after a time. Don't be afraid to ask questions in the game's chat and feel free to PM people with specific questions. You'll do well to get a good range of opinions. Most of us are patient and forgiving enough to talk about stupid questions.

Regarding that bit at the end of the box, I do mean, "specific questions." You will stand a much better chance of getting help if people know where to start. Saying nothing more than, "please help me with my map," will probably make them hit you with one of two responses: "Sorry, I don't know what to suggest" or, "Remap everything, use the right settings and play more maps for ideas."
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blissfulyoshi
Thanks everyone for your support. I am happy that you think that this guide will be helpful, and I hope this guide will be of help to new mappers.

Also, thanks D33d for posting information I was missing on hitsounds and difficulties. Since I am slightly busy right now, I just linked your post in the guide. In the future, I might try to provide a quick summary above, so the text is not as overwhelming (then again, most of those things are important and hard to cut....)
Tari
Nice guide, skimmed through it and seems fine

EDIT: But the special terms are already in the wiki I believe.
RuNe_Vocs
Thanks so much for the guide ..really appreciate it ^_^
.. now i'm gonna start working on my beatmap this gonna be tough ~~~~
Deventious
Love the guide Yoshiiii, thank you! :)
sbstratos79
Thanks a lot blissfulyoshi for this awesome tutorial. I wanted to ask a question:
Can't we just calculate the BPM of the song using some BPM calculating software like 'BPM Counter' or 'MixMeister BPM Analyzer', and just use that value for the song in the beatmap? Of course, we'll have to adjust the Offset, but won't such a method save us from a lot of trouble? I haven't modded any beatmap yet, so it is possible that I may be saying totally absurd stuff, but still, I just wanted to put forward my point. :oops:
Topic Starter
blissfulyoshi
sbstratos79: Yes, automated tools do work for simple BPMs, but they might be inaccurate or there might be multiple BPMs. As a result, you should try to learn the skills to find and verify the BPM.
sbstratos79
Ok, thanks for the help. :D
Sword Hunter
YOSHI you rocks, this forum really help, thank you so much :)
Anime_Killer
it didn't help it just made me even more confused help!! :shock::shock::shock::(:?:(:(:?:?
D33d

Anime_Killer wrote:

it didn't help it just made me even more confused help!! :shock::shock::shock::(:?:(:(:?:?
Look for osu!academy videos. They're much, much clearer.
okamiratsu
I didn't know Insane diff had to played a certain way, don't get me wrong I give credit to those who can play a insane, but realistically some insane diffs are at a boundary that even Elite Beat Agents and Ouendan wouldn't even go to. not everbody can react that fast
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blissfulyoshi
I just gave general guidelines on how hard something should be at minimum. The maximum is whatever the mapper decides to be, but whether or not that setting actually works for your perception of the song, is up to you.
Alpha SS Blood
Tanks
:lol:
h1b1k11
When ever I try to upload my beatmap, it just says Creating Package. I don't get what that means. I also added a video in my beatmap and followed the exact rules from your 'How to add a Video' forum so I don't know if it's the video that's causing it....It won't let me type in the Creator's Words or chose the top boxes either.
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blissfulyoshi
Creating a package is mostly creating the osz file everything is packaged in, but this is a frequent area where people get stuck. For now, take out the video, and do the upload (the larger filesize makes the process take longer).

As for why you can't click on the boxes, I am not sure.
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